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This has been an important line in the sand, and there are a number of RKBA groups, including the Firearms Policy Coalition and the Second Amendment Foundation, that have been fighting hard against Chipman, who is the poster boy for jack-booted federal thuggery. Withdrawal of his nomination is a major victory for the cause of freedom, and thus we should look for it to be largely ignored in the mainstream news media. And yes, the administration will certainly nominate another authoritarian gun-grabber for the post, but he or she won't be as bad as Chipman...simply because there probably aren't any others that bad. The enemies of freedom intended this nomination as a major blow against gun owners, and that blow has been successfully blocked. We should take a moment to savor that fact, even though we know more attempts are coming. Cheers, Whisper

While good news, the next nominee, will likely be just as bad or worse. Need to continue the fight!

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/09/politics/david-chipman-nomination-withdrawn/index.html

It wasn’t called for, and he won’t be doing it again, or anything else here for that matter. I will tolerate a lot of mess that I probably shouldn’t in trying to give folks the opportunity to act right. Wholesale denigration of the folks here by someone with almost no post history? Nah, bruh. I ain’t having that.

I've never seen a more "punchable" face than Chipman's.

Ivermectin and Hcq are being used as treatments insofar as I know, same as monocular antibodies. Vaccinations are preventative. Two different efforts in the same fight; both need to be tailored to the individual. I still see everything telling us that vaccinations are the best step for an initial defense against the virus. After that, treatments for breakthrough cases take over. I'm fine with whatever folks are using for treatments, I just hope they're doing so in consultation with their physician. Taking ivermectin as prescribed by a doctor make sense. Buying it at the feed store in a package that has a picture of a horse and self medicating is something else.

To me, this whole thing started downhill the moment the gov. got involved. Imagine that! The one thing the VA did right. Fill out a simple form, get the injection, leave. No muss, no fuss.

Because our government, the media, and everybody else is playing politics with this disease. Our media likes to call it horse dewormer, which is available at Walgreens, CVS, and WALMART. All my horses shop there. Some folks have concerns about the vaccines. A lot of medical folks have concerns. Hell, we took the J&J shot because Mika's doctor had concerns about the Phizer and Moderna. There are tons and tons of bull#### wrapped around this whole disease. If one politician mentions a drug, it gets banned by his opponents. And the real truth is way above all of our pay grades. Wormer... https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-1122/ivermectin-oral/details and the Nobel Peace Prize... like Obama https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/2015/press-release/

This whole vaccination thing is strange to me. I have never been one that was afraid of needles or vaccines. Usually, when a needle was stuck in me, there wasn't really much choice. Get the shot, get better, or not do so & suffer the consequences. Reminds me of my Army days, where in basic training, we were told to line up & go thru the gauntlet of medics on each side with the spray paint gun type injection apparatus. Roll up your shirt sleeve & get hit on both sides at the same time. No option. Never saw anyone raise their hand to opt out. Again, when we were preparing to leave for Vietnam, more of the same. No choices. Then there were the Malaria pills. I have no idea what was in these vaccines, never gave it a thought. Thing was, I never contracted any of the numerous diseases to be had. I also used the dreaded iodine tablets in my canteen. Tasted like crap, but you lived with it. I've never suffered any ill effects from any of it.

No. The choice to get/not get by me, does not affect you, and vice versa. You want it, get it. You want to force me to get it, you got a fight on your hands. The standard arguments around mandatory vaccination standards are so far out the window on this one... the VAERS data alone should stfu about the entire debate.

I know this virus is serious but, this administration just keeps on pissing people off. Apparently he's not been watching videos at College ballgames. He's not real popular right now. They've been calling this a pandemic for awhile. If it was one, hospitals would be trying to hold on to their workers, instead of letting them walk. I've not heard of some guy with a wagon full of bodies, saying, "bring out your dead".

From the most vaxxed nation on the planet... Why would a government want to force this on their population?!?!?!

My disabled daughter that is in the hospital with COVID is getting better. They have taken her off of the oxygen mask and put her on the regular oxygen cannula. They have a "step plan" for getting her out of the hospital. My grandsons appear to be getting better although their damned doctor just prescribed medicine for them today. On another note, my wife, who had the J&J vaccine, is officially COVID positive. There's no way to tell if she's one of the 28% that the vaccine didn't work for or just part of the 7% of break-out cases. She has told me that she's scared since she has several co-morbidities. We are now hoping that the claim from J&J that the shot will at least make her symptoms only minor to moderate is accurate. Her doctor has her going in for some therapy on TUESDAY. So out of my household of 8, 5 have, or had, COVID. The un-vaccinated 13-year old granddaughter has shown no signs of it although she mostly stays upstairs or wears a mask while downstairs. My other daughter, who has terrible lungs and is also vaccinated with the J&J vaccine, doesn't have it either, but she's wearing a mask religiously. Then there's me that got the Moderna shots when the VA offered them to me and is now hoping that I'm not one of the 5% that the vaccine doesn't work on.

We should also take this opportunity to thank and financially support those 2nd amendment defending organizations who held politicians’ feet to the fire to keep this nut from being appointed.

I just left FedEx where I ship all of my handguns that I sell out of state. I let the clerk read the information that is on this post. As far as she knows there have not been any policy changes in shipping of firearms. As long as you ship to a valid FFL it is OK. She said that she normally gets emails or information on any changes on shipping, but has has not received any information on the September 20 change. She also checked in her system to see if she could find any information. She could not find any information in her FedEx system on this change. I’m gonna keep checking on this and if I get any other further information I’ll let you know.

That's rich considering their shot has the same issue. The listed studies above by @GlockSpock, well, suck. The first is the only one with findings and it only had 8 participants. Here is a study with more than 8 participants. https://c19hcq.com/guerrero.html Oh, and Merck isn't missing anything, they are working on something they can patent, unlike ivermectin which they had the patent on, they can make many $$$ off of it. https://shtf.tv/countries-using-ivermectin/

This is good news. Now to prepare for the next nominee.

Just because one of its uses is deworming does not mean that is its only use. Have you ever taken Benadryl for allergies? How about sleeping pills? Check the active ingredient - many sleeping pills have the same active ingredient as Benadryl... Ivermectin is a medicine that's been around since 1975 (plenty of time to see side effects) whereas this shot has been around for less than a year. Ivermectin has been prescribed by many, many, many doctors globally and has been observed to be effective at treating the symptoms of COVID19. What people are concerned about is the fact that the vaccine is being mandated for clear political reasons. I hope that clears up your confusion.

You might want to get it to stay alive. Piss on Beady Eyed Joe. He'll get his, sooner rather than later.

Not a chance I will open carry. I want to have surprise on my side.

There's gonna be return fire. I'm kinda anxious to see what it will be.

If it is going to be an all around hunting rig then you are probably best to stay with .308. Probably a lot more options when it comes to building a .308 AR verse any of those other calibers. For the hunter the .308 is probably the easiest of the listed calibers to find and it is extremely versatile depending if you are using light or heavy bullets.

I took a position in POWW recently. Never let politics get in the way of making money!

I image what would raffle the best is not going to be one of those fancy calibers.

If anything I’ve seen as much Remington ammo on shelves lately as I have any other brands. I don’t like the prices, but they are definitely cranking it out. Reloading supplies not so much.

Now I’d go get a shot to prevent that!

If you haven't pulled a tick off your sack have you even lived? That's fairly normal if you spend a decent amount of time in the woods around here.

Exactly what I was thinking as well.

Definitely welcome great news and happy to see it. Have to agree having showed their hand and known goals, the next one will be liked minded. But they have learned their lesson in a choice that was overtly anti-gun with a well documented history of *****. I trust they are deep in foaming at the mouth gun haters, so the danger will getting one whose background is far to subtle to make their level of bias and disregard for constitutional rights as obvious and as easy to prove. I'll take the victory, And double down on mole repellent.

I don't know-how about Slo Joe

Rachel is an idiot.

Hard to argue it didn't work.

Yeah. She lives in Florida so no connection to my dad getting it who lives here. She didn't even tell me she had it until she had recovered. Her and my step dad both got it, her worse than him. Neither had the vax. Both are doing fine now though after the Chinese doctor loaded them up on lord knows what. If she had worms before she's cured of that too.

Well she didn't die. She was pretty sick for a while. But she also took a slew of other things. My mom goes to a Chinese Medicine doctor if that tells you anything. It wouldn't be possible to say if it helped or not. It didn't seem to hurt her though.

LMAO! AMEN! Finally, something we can ALL agree on!

Pfizer’s new ‘daily pill’ to fight Covid utilizes a protease inhibitor… Ivermectin is also a protease inhibitor… – CITIZEN FREE PRESS

I'm very confused by the fact that the same group of people that don't trust a vaccine will take a dewormimg medicine..

I have conceal carried for a long time. I live in a Constitutional Carry state now, but I still have my permit. When I carry (everyday) the goal is to have what I need, and not let it encumber me. That means a lot of different things. First and foremost that it not get in the way of what I am doing. If I were to carry a big iron on my hip for everyone to see, sure, they would all stand in awe at what a mighty and powerful man I am. But that isn't why we carry. Well, it shouldn't be. We should carry so that if the need ever arises, we have it. And frankly, keeping it concealed adds to that. I don't get spooked when I see guys open carrying. I do get spooked when I see guys in an Uncle Mike's holster on a floppy belt with a cocked and locked 1911 in flip flops ordering food at McDonald's. If you carry, be responsible, it is my opinion that part of that is concealing it with a quality holster.

Makes you say, where the hell is Enfield?

There was a good article in American Rifleman mag, not long ago, interviewing Remington. They said they will be full tilt. Of course this won't happen overnight, but sounded better. That said, I don't use Rem. primers. I use CCI exclusively. Just personal choice. Expect prices to be higher than before. My 2 cents worth.

Don't sweat it Mac. No harm done.

Employers can set any requirement for work in Tennessee. You wife has the option of not working there if she does not want to. Not sayin' this to be ugly. It's just the way it is. It kind of like no shoes, no shirt, no service. I'm pretty sure an employer can fire you without cause as well as long as it's proven not discriminatory.

I have read that primers and such are being used in production of loaded ammo. The ammo production companies can’t make fast enough to support demand. So we (reloaders) are on the short end of the stick. So if one didn’t stock up it is unfortunate, hopefully it will past

Your eyesight is way better than mine if you can see tick balls.

I think you've gone way too far in this overstatement. I have no idea how many people have taken Ivermectin, but I suspect it's a tiny subset of those who don't trust the vaccine. I was vaccinated as soon as possible, but I think it's unconscionable to compel or harangue anyone to take a drug they don't want. The unfortunate genie that's now out of the bottle is the tremendous amount of misinformation out there. The official government line changes frequently and it seems clear to me that NO ONE truly has all the facts.

Not quite sure how this policy "ensures the safety of their employees and the general public". Nor have any laws changed in regards to shipping firearms, something they've no doubt conjured up out of thin air. Sounds like their HR dept is running their company rather than vice versa.

I am not a lawyer, but I would imagine that it adds some complexity to the scenario of attempting to sue an employer over it. This on top of the normal complexity of suing an employer for terminating employment in an "at will" state. The reasons that an employer in Tennessee cannot terminate an employment are pretty limited: Employee Rights (tn.gov) I did get the J&J shot. I was given the typical sheets of paperwork prior to the jab that explained what the risks were. This is normal fare anytime you admit yourself for any sort of medical care, though. I skimmed it before letting Nurse Ratchet impale my shoulder with her rusty dagger, but I didn't read it in great detail. I'm probably rare in comparison to most folks in that I actually did read a bit of it, though. I would imagine that most folks treat it like the EULA on a software package and throw it in the trash without a glance. It's going to be interesting to see what happens in an employee vs. employer personal injury lawsuit regarding the vaccines. I figure it will differ from state to state according to whatever laws are on their books. The only thing for certain is that lawyers are going to pocket a bunch of money no matter who wins.

In a polite society, the open display of weapons will never seen as normative. Open carrying is seen by the public at large as potentially disruptive to preserving order. We have people that we choose to put forth as a community to protect that order (law enforcement - at least in theory.) When an individual or group takes it upon themselves to open carry, it’s making a statement that they’re operating outside of societally agreed upon bounds. It’s always going to be anti normative. None of that affects an individual’s right to defense. You can carry a gun for defense. When you make the choice to strap on a gun you either become an asset to society or a liability. When you open carry the community around you also gets a vote. Choose wisely.