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I'm a forensic scientist. To be clear - I don't work as an epidemiologist or immunologist - but I work with people who've dedicated their whole lives to those disciplines - and I trust them with my life. I'm comfortable with data - I turn to them for nuance. Two things up front: This is going to be a nuanced post. The left and the right both do something really poorly - and it's hurting us right now. The left has this "trust the science" narrative that they love but they have no idea what that actually means. It often gets pushed in the media as "trust me - you're too stupid to know what you're talking about." Thus on the right - people push back against that narrative for a variety of reasons. Maybe they don't trust the people on the left. Maybe they just don't want to be talked down to and told what to do. Whatever. I get it. But it's killing us right now. We've got to do better regardless of where we fall on the political spectrum. Science is not truth. Science is the pursuit of truth - and hopefully through rigorous processes we get closer to the truth. If you want an easy way to distinguish between whether or not you should trust someone regarding "science" listen to whether they talk more about what they know or what they don't know. If you choose to listen to someone - pick the latter. The scientists I know and trust are absolutely terrified right now. There's a whole lot we still don't know. Graphs like the one @mikegideonposted above are truly scary. We're about to see some very dark days ahead. That's an exponential curve on that graph - and the thing about exponential growth is that if you're going to change it the only time it really matters is when it seems too early. We're too late. So with those caveats out of the way - here's the best we've got right now: @deerslayer to your question on the Pfizer vaccine - yes all of the vaccines are dropping double digits in effectiveness right now. They're still really good at keeping you out of the hospital with serious illness and are good at preventing death. But, with the transmission numbers we're seeing - it's clear that breakthrough infections are happening. Here's a chart showing the most recent controlled studies grouped into one place: That's a lot of data in one place - but basically if you remember the 95%+ numbers you saw back in the spring - they're all dropping a bunch right now. Pfizer went from 97% effectiveness reported at 2 months to 84% reported at 5-6 months (and those studies ended in May which means current real world data is likely worse.) If I had to pick a vaccine today I'd choose Moderna as it seems most effective against the variants. But the viruses are still mutating/evolving. So couple in the fact that the virus is mutating to avoid the vaccines and that antibody levels naturally sag over time - and you're going to see more infections. Another major factor is that our behavior patterns are changing - especially among the vaccinated - we're out and about and the viral load we're exposed to on a daily basis is likely to be pretty high. So often in science, we learn in the rearview mirror. We don't get that luxury here. But, if you think about the efficacy rates measured in the Spring - most people were still staying inside. They just weren't that exposed by and large. That's different now. We're seeing a lot of breakthrough infections right now. So many in fact that the public health people can't seem to be honest with people and just say "vaccinated people can get it and spread it" without contradicting what they've been saying about the wild (alpha) variant. This delta variant doesn't behave like the wild variant. That said, the vaccines still perform quite well at keeping you out of the hospital and prevent you from dying. So, with all that - how do you take action. Here's what we're doing in my family: Get vaccinated if you haven't already. You can literally do it on your coffee break by walking into practically any pharmacy in America. Here's the best source for finding one near you (https://www.vaccines.gov) If I were choosing what vaccine to get right now - I'd choose Moderna. It still seems most effective against the variants. But - you're looking at two shots spaced over three weeks - so a total of five weeks to full immunity. So, if you've not been vaccinated at all it might be worth it to consider the J&J single shot for a quicker response time. If you're wanting an mRNA vaccine but are sketchy about the EUA status - Pfizer should have full approval as soon as this afternoon. Talk to your doctor about it. They have a relationship with you and can give you the best information they've got. If you are vaccinated - don't give your immunity a stress test. This delta variant is causing breakthrough infections. We're out and about more - and thus exposed to higher viral loads. I know we all got rid of the masks this Spring - but for the next little bit it's worth picking them back up. As to children - multiple things can be true at once - the overall risk to children is pretty low - and COVID rocketed into the leading causes of death amongst children in less than a year. Two of my three are vaccinated - and my youngest would be if he could get away with telling the doctor he was 12. For the next 6-8 weeks, I'd probably stay off of tall ladders and other stuff that could put me in the hospital if I had an accident. Like @E4 No More experienced above - if you need an ICU bed right now - you're likely to have to wait for someone to die first. If you're immunocompromised - you're likely already talking to your doctor about an additional mRNA shot. They can measure antibody response to make sure you're fully protected. If you're in a group that got vaccinated back in January/February - you're likely to be eligible for an mRNA booster soon. Talk to your doctor about it. The data shows lagging antibody response over time. If you got infected with the original variant - and it's been more than a few months - it's probably worth getting vaccinated. We know that the vaccines generate a higher antibody response. I know a couple of people who had the original variant and have since died after contracting delta. Talk to the people you care about. There's no harm in offering a sort of collective off ramp. Just because you've held out so far - doesn't mean you can't change your mind when presented with new data. Viruses should get less lethal over time - this one isn't doing that yet. If you'd like to do some more reading from that highlights what we know and what we don't - this is pretty current: https://www.realclearscience.com/articles/2021/08/23/lets_stop_pretending_about_the_covid-19_vaccines_791050.html I'm happy to answer any questions anyone has. I know that I don't know a lot of you personally - but this is a community that I really care about. I'm tired of losing people to this thing. Feel free to give me a shout or shoot me a DM if I can help at all.

Up until now I’ve avoided making a direct encouragement one way or another. I’m going to make one now. While I get the hesitation, and wholly disagree with any government mandates, I would highly encourage y’all to get vaccinated. If you’re worried or suspicious of the mRNA vaccines, go get the J&J one. It’s built on the old tech that’s been around for decades. I’m not the one who can break down the science of things, but please take @MacGyverup on his offer if you’ve got questions. If you want a solid 2A argument for it, I’ve even got one of those. We can’t preserve our freedoms if we are dead and unable to educate the young in our lives. I don’t want to lose anymore of y’all if it can be avoided.

OH, I do want to amend my previous comments about how exasperated I am about this. I should have framed my comments to state that I am not exasperated by anyone on TGO about the ongoing conversation. Actually, I tend to think that this is one bastion of sanity and civil discourse about the topic. I am probably on the verge of mental exhaustion when it comes to COVID-19 just because of how inundated we are with the subject at work, how much of a schism there is about it in my own team, and how "in your face" the company is about it with the employees. I really just need some relief from it. I want to respond "Unsubscribe" every time that I see a post or email about it at work or on social media.

Anybody want an update?

Well, I very much and sincerely hope that I do not regret it, but I just got the first of the Pfizer shots today. The one thing that I personally have gotten 100% fully sick of is the fact that it can be hard to know who to trust. You can go on the internet today and read many hours worth of “research”, some of it from apparently knowledgeable sources, that state for example the vaccines are extremely dangerous. That can be countered with “official research” that dismisses nearly all the claims against. It can be exhausting, even overwhelming, to make your own mind up. I have always been very, very pro-vaccine. However, I have experienced much anxiety over a COVID vaccine. In theory it should be a great thing, but it is very easy to allow a voice in the back of your mind that instills doubt.

I got out of the Ascentian St. Thomas hospital in Murfreesboro yesterday after nearly dying from a large pulmonary embolism last Thursday. After they removed the clot, I was eventually moved to the ICU until it was safe to be moved to the cardiac floor on Saturday. I had to wait for a bed to come available in the ICU which took a few hours. Once I got up there I was struck by the amount of people hooked up to ventilators looking like dead bodies just waiting to die. It was easy to determine the COVID rooms because they had constructed what amounts to glass/lexan man traps between the hall and the patient doors. The staff were completely robed, gloved, shielded, and wearing what looked like active carbon respirators before entering the rooms. One of them mistakenly entered my room outfitted as such startling the out of me. My wife, having walked slower past the rooms, got a better look and was shaken by the experience. She said it was like a floor of dead people that were waiting to officially die. Folks, this is no joke. It is a VERY lonely and terrible way to die. Please learn from Phil Valentine and get the damned shot. Many of you I consider friends that I haven't met. and I don't want to hear of you dying this way.

Yep. Time to quit messing around and get the jab. As much as this whole thing has been exploited, I never hesitated to get it. I just never thought it was my place to demand it of anyone else.

Passing thoughts... 1. I really resent the fact that so many people have become self-proclaimed medical experts during this pandemic. 2. I really resent the fact that so many people have become amateur pundits on the topic of COVID-19 during this pandemic. 3. Social media has made the past two an even bigger problem, so I resent it at a higher level than I do #1 and #2 4. There aren't many people who trust the government and that's a big problem when the government perhaps tries to do the right thing during a pandemic but can't persuade people to believe them. I resent politicians more than I do any of the the first three in this list. 5. I am so tired of the proselytizing. So tired. I'm more tired of it related to COVID-19 than I ever am of it during political cycles, and that's saything something - because I f'king hate it during political cycles too. People have talked this subject to death to the point that a lot of folks just tune it out now. There is no signal to noise ratio because no one cares... it's all noise now to most people. 6. GO TALK TO YOUR DOCTOR. Follow their advice! also... see this link. I should have amended my comments.

I understand McCain being reviled. He screwed America on voting for Nobama Care, he screwed America on voting for anti-gun legislation at every opportunity. He was no friend to conservatives & shafted us at every opportunity. Ginsberg was against virtually everything America stood for, IMO. Hated guns with a passion. How can a USSC Justice support all the Amendments except one?

Mac, I appreciate more than you will ever know your willingness to share your knowledge with us. A lot of it goes over my head, but thank you just the same. The fact you see these vaccines as good carries a lot of weight with me. I know very little about medicine of the metabolic and chemical makeup of the human body. I am a numbers guy. What gives me pause is everything I see points to a small group of folks getting very wealthy from this. I can think of no other reason these folks are pushing so damned hard for everyone to get this shot.

For what it's worth, especially for you since it could theoretically be a lifesaving change, consider the following settings on a phone: At least for IOS and I couldn't imagine Android doesn't have a similar possibility, dig heavily into the "Do not Disturb" and "Favorites" settings. For example, I go on call at work. Obviously people need to reach me during those times 24/7, but I don't want my phone dinging all night long because Hertz wants to quote my insurance and the like. In my example, I setup "Do not Disturb" to silence everything (including text messages) but allow phone calls through. You could have it block all calls as well, but if someone calls twice within three minutes it will let the call through. You can also set a favorites list to let people through, but for that to work you have to know what number to call. You can manually or activate this "Do not Disturb" mode. If you are at all interested in any of this, send me a message. I'd be happy to walk you through any/all of it, but for someone even the least bit tech savvy they should be able to read the potential options on their phone and set it up as they wish. I would also recommend testing such a thing.

A pulmonary embolism is no joke either. Glad you dodged that one.

I get so pissed at my family for turning their ringers off on their phones. What's the damn point of the phone if it doesn't ring?? But, I digress. Call 911 first next time. If they bust your door down, I bet we can rally the troops on TGO and get it repaired.

@E4 No More First of all, I'm very glad you are ok. I guess this explains the symptoms you were having? I'm glad you are still with us. Also, you are spot on about Phil. I was just thinking about him earlier and the fact that he was hospitalized since July. He had a slow, agonizing death. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

Glad you're still with us! I know y'all have family and friends around you - but if y'all need anything - let me know.

That’s all I’ve been trying to say. I’ll take care of me, and you can take care of you. None of my business what you decide. People sure seem to get their drawers in a wad if you don’t share their opinion for some reason.

Viruses rarely get less effective as they mutate. This delta variant is hitting harder on practically every metric that matters. If anyone is still on the fence about the vaccine - including if you haven’t gotten it because you caught the wild variant the first go round - I’m happy to talk to anyone about it anytime.

I guess I'll point out again that there were Conservatives relishing the death of both RBG and John McCain. Both "teams" are nasty these days.

Here’s a pic of it. I’ve got the skull at the taxidermy for a euro mount. Rig is an 18” 6.5 Grendel with a 762SDN6 and a Pulsar Trail XP50. Convergent systems bullet caller. 3mins of the Glenn Guess Rally Call did the trick. First one I have called in.

FYI, high school football started last Friday, state-wide ...

I’ll pull it when I’m not on mobile - which as of about 15 minutes ago may be a day or two. But, the data is available and public. There’s no secret cabal guarding it. It’s a matter of public record. The short answer is this - this vaccine has been developed more in public - and there has been more data gathered than any other vaccine we’ve ever developed. I’d actually be willing to wager we’ve got more data on these vaccines than we do every vaccine in history since we were blowing dried cow puss up peoples noses. The stakes were that high. Now, there have been other highly contagious, high stakes diseases. Think polio. But they just didn’t gather as much data back then. Same with small pox. Now, of course there have been volumes of data collected over time - both good and bad - there’s a reason they tell you that a possible side effect of that tetanus booster is paralysis or death. But, also remember that we’re not starting from zero. A lot of the science behind vaccine development isn’t new. Sure, mRNA vaccines are new. And if we’re honest, the risk associated with them is non-zero. But, it’s very low - and it’s certainly lower than the risks associated with COVID. If anything you can see the process working by how slow the approval process is actually going. You saw the pause in the Spring while they investigated the blood clot issue. That’s not a sign that they’re taking shortcuts. That’s a sign that the process is as rigorous as it should be.

For what it’s worth, if you’ve got ETFs in your retirement fund, you’ve probably at least got Pfizer and J&j in there I deeply care about this community - and if I can help anyone - that’s all the reason I’ve got and all the motivation I need. Full stop. As a forensic professional I’ve had too many heart wrenching conversations this year with folks who have lost their loved ones. I’m not a front line worker by any stretch. But I’m so tired. Everyone I work with is just flat exhausted. I worry for our nurses’ and ambulance drivers’ mental well being. How many hands can you hold and cry as they die without their loved ones near? There is a metric ton of bad information out there. It’s become hard to figure out who to trust. If I can use my voice to help people find their way through it I will. Offer stands. DMs are open. Happy to talk anytime.

Completely unenforceable & would cost so many states, so much revenue from our of state hunters (think all western states) & state line hunters, that it'll never, ever happen.

That is much better! Just getting rid of the weird stock made a big difference.

I did. The army requires it every year. I get paid for a whole day to walk in to walgreens and get a shot. $125 or so for 10 minutes of my time.

There's some stats from Israel on their current covid issues. Almost half of those in the hospital have had some sort of shot from one of the various makers. Google it up. Now I have no clue what the US stats are nor do I doubt anyone else does either. Hospitals have been caught time & time again changing covid numbers. But I again say I know multiple people whom have had shots also contract covid & end up in the ICU. And IF the shots work, why wear masks? Makes no sense.

First and foremost, your wife should have a conversation with her Ob/Gyn. It sounds like he or she has brought at least one child into the world for you - so they have a relationship with you and your wife and have your wellbeing at heart. There's a reason most doctors are going to ask about maternal vaccinations as a part of standard prenatal care. It's because mothers pass antibodies to their babies. So in that critical time in the first days of their life - they're still receiving protection from their mothers. Any doctor should be willing to spend the time with you to have this conversation. If they're not - it's a good prompt to find another doctor. You can always ask them to print you a copy of the UpToDate reference on anything. If you're not familiar with this - it's a resource that basically rounds up all the evidence-based clinical support data in one place https://learn.uptodate.com/global Here's specifically the resource for COVID-19: https://www.uptodate.com/contents/covid-19-epidemiology-virology-and-prevention And specifically on pregnancy questions here: https://www.uptodate.com/contents/covid-19-and-pregnancy-questions-and-answers?search=covid pregnancy&source=search_result&selectedTitle=2~150&usage_type=default&display_rank=2 To quote the relevant section But, the best answer overwhelmingly is to talk to your Ob/Gyn

I’ll post this at the risk of it having been covered recently. Large thread though… Has anyone ran across detailed documentation or studies of how or if any of these vaccines may affect fertility in women of child bearing age? This has been the main concern of my wife and basically the only reason we haven’t been vaccinated yet. I’ll go further and add that after contracting the virus a few days ago, I will be getting vaccinated once I’m well. Assuming the lord lets me get past it. I’m very certain my wife will push back tremendously on an ask for her to take it but I’m to the point now where my argument would be “we can’t have more kids if we are dead”. The most info I can find on the subject is just claims of studies that support no harm.

I had the Moderna in March. I had a history of blood clots in the legs well before the vaccine, so no, concerns. The civie doctors were a little annoyed that the VA did NOT have me on any blood thinners after having a blood clot in each leg over the past few years.

As for the vaccine I told my wife I was getting it early on. She had reservations but she decided to get it after I did. The military had already given me every vaccine known to man, so what was one more. I always believed in being prepared. Most of my immediate family have been vaccinated. we take precautions, we still mask indoors in public places and get snickered at for doing it. The family hold outs are in Alabama and that whole group don’t believe nothing the guvmint says. And they get all their science from FB memes. They had at least 5 cases of covid, two hospitalized. They won’t listen to anything I say. I fear I will lose them, I fear for my grandchildren.

The Pfizer vaccine was fully approved by the FDA.

I think we've all witnessed a giant failing in our public health arm of the government. Here's some stuff that I expect y'all have been thinking about same as me. I wonder if we were so ill-prepared for this because for decades we thought pandemics were things that happened in places that we don't really care about? That may be overly critical, but the CDC and others really seem to have been caught flat-footed here. This is a place where "the media" hasn't helped. Wanting to drive clicks by looking at "both sides" hasn't helped to get people better data to make better decisions. I think our public health infrastructure has really done a disservice by talking in "faculty lounge language" instead of speaking plainly to the American public about what we know and what we don't know. So many of these folks have focused more on being right than they have in admitting that we're shooting at a moving target and what we thought 8 months ago may have changed. Lesson learned - going forward, we need to train/hire more science communicators who can take complex data and put it into a form that we all can understand. I do want to address the vaccine development. To be clear the only things that were shortcut in the Warp Speed process were the funding delays that are normal in vaccine development and the government bureaucracy (to a lesser extent - government is going to government). We have more actual data regarding these vaccines than we have any vaccine in history. The average vaccine development timeline is about 12 years. There's not 12 years of science happening in there. There is 12 years worth of waiting on funding and need studies and places like the FDA where pay day is still on Friday whether they pick up your application or not. It's totally fair to be a bit nervous about trusting something new. mRNA technology has been around for a while - but we've not applied it like this. To be clear - one of the geneticists I mentioned in my post above who I would absolutely trust my life to - waited a couple of days to really dig into the data before she made the decision to vaccinate her children. It's okay to acknowledge that nervousness - and not beat people up about it. The hard thing right now is that this virus is demanding that we move very quickly - and that's something that we're generally just not built for. There are things we still don't know. Could there be some long tail side effect of mRNA vaccines we don't know about - you bet there could be. But, we've been researching these things since the late 60's and haven't seen evidence of it yet. So, measured against the potential side effects of COVID - which are death at worst and increasing long COVID cases - it's probably worth it to choose the vaccine even in light of the unknowns.

Thank you for the in-depth answer. I was trying to nicely ask “why should I trust you?” and I think you answered that. The left/right politics of the vaccines are irrelevant to me (other than government mandates). I have been hesitant because I don’t know and I don’t trust most who claim they do. I generally don’t like medication and take as little as is necessary. Some have called me anti-vax and that is a complete mischaracterization. I have no doubt the vaccines work to varying degrees, but have always been concerned about what will be learned about them 10 years from now. Throw in the lack of liability the drug makers politicked for and got (I get it—this needed to happen to expedite the process, but big pharm aren’t exactly angels) and the speed at which they were developed, and I don’t see how a prudent person wouldn’t have some concerns.

If they "worked", then people wouldn't be getting covid after they've had the shots. Since they get covid after they got the shots, it's NOT a "vaccine" per se. For the record, I'm doing the shots. Had the first, waiting for the second. But I'm not closing my eyes to the reality of the situation.

Possibly even scarier is the MSM. But either are dumber than a box of hammers.

Over 90% of hospitalizations for Covid are unvaccinated people. The vaccines work, period. There were always going to be a small number of breakthrough cases, just like there are always breakthrough cases with other vaccines like the Flu shots. Testing is not a substitute for vaccination, it is in compliment to it. I had Covid in December, nearly ended up in the hospital with breathing issues (low O2 sat) and significant fluid in my lungs. Got the vaccine in April and have been directly exposed several times since then through work without getting it. The one breakthrough case we had in the workplace did not know he was positive because he had no significant symptoms and only a mild fever one evening.

Sadly, the shots don't prevent one from getting covid. I know multiple people who had both shots & STILL ended up in ICU somewhere. I wonder if a better option would've been making cheap testing kits, do-it-yourself ones for home. Test yourself everyday & catch it before it gets ramped up & hammers your lungs. Because clearly the shots are neither preventing it nor slowing it down. They're also going to be mandatory as soon as the FDA approves them next month (I read on the news). May China's govt rot in hell over this.

Get your picks in early, who will win, who will be awful. As usual, Vandy will probably only win one or two games, none in the SEC, IMO. UT will be 5-5, 5-6, depending on how hard covid hits their schedule. Score a bunch of points, give up a bunch of points on defense. Bama should win the SEC West but keep an eye on Ole Miss. They may climb above LSU for the West #2 slot. Were I a betting man, I'd wager on GA for the SEC East. Lots of talent there, good coaching as well. FL might be hit or miss, Gobs of talent but a bunch of 5 cent heads, IMO. Everyone else will fight for 3rd place except Vandy. Bama vs GA in the title game. Coin flip on who wins. Elsewhere, the usual suspects. OSU, Clemson, maybe Oklahoma? No clue about the West coast at the moment, who's good or not. NFL Titans looked REAL good in preseason despite playing all back-ups. Both back-up QB's looked sharp as did the RB. The rest of the AFC South is in a rebuilding mode for the most part. Indy lost QB Rivers to retirement. Houston is a mess with the legal issues around their QB. J'ville is with a first year college coach & rebuilding as well. KC will win their division along with the AFC West. Buffalo might make some noise in the AFC North. I don't see NE winning it nor Pittsburgh. KC & Titans in the AFC title game with the Titans winning it in a close game. NFC will almost certainly be taken by Tampa Bay as long as Brady is healthy. Their back-up QB played awful against the Titans, so he's not the answer. NFC West will be a three dog race with the Rams, 49ers & Seahawks, IMO. NFC East is a dump for teams except for Green Bay. Green Bay & Tampa Bay in the NFC title game with Tampa winning it. Tampa Bay vs Titans in the Super Bowl. If everyone is healthy, Titans winning it.

So O had a book out there and tons of people knew about it but not a single member of his former administration took it to a Democrat like Pelosi or Schumer or expert Fauci when this broke out ? Sounds like X presidential TP to me. As far as cocaine Mitch denying it i don't doubt that a bit

No, but I did see this on the news recently and am not sure how it sets with me. I also am not sure how this is possible since a mother's blood supply and child's blood aren't supposed to mix. In fact, bad things can happen if it does. First baby in U.S. born with antibodies against COVID-19 after mom receives dose of Moderna vaccine while pregnant - CBS News

Glad to see you\re doing better, that's a scary experience!!

Drove past a McD's the other day. Big sign, work today, paid next day.

They Crimson Tide fans? Just sayin

I've only been to Africa once & that was bowhunting in Namibia, so I have no gun advice to offer. But one thing I know is common & relevant, is the upsell. Set yourself a budget. I'm sure you're 'package' includes the common species (warthog & Impala or springbok, occasionally blue wildebeest) but you're going to see a BUNCH of other stuff & your PH is GOING to tell you what a trophy it is & you'd be simply mad to pass it up! Red Hartebeest, Zebra, Waterbuck, Blesbok..... it's all there for the selling. Find out trophy fees in advance & set a limit. It might be one exceptional critter or a good mixed bag. Up to you. But you HAVE to stick to your budget. Think of it like setting a limit in a casino. Don't forget to tip your skinners. Cheap pocket knives are always welcome. If you want to be super nice, leave a big bottle of ibuprofen in your room, along with a bunch of AA batteries when you leave. The cleaners will share them out with the cooks, skinners & their families & their are incredibly appreciated. Also, you'll need to check on trophy shipping costs. The 2 trophies I had shipped to England (Black Wildebeest - $1200 trophy fee & Springbok - $300 trophy fee) consists of 2 skulls, a skin & a cape & the shipping alone cost more than the hunt. I want to say the shipping & import fee was around $2800. They shipped in a wooden crate that weighed about 30lb by itself!

As I've said before; I was and still am mistrustful of all this. I do agree there was, is, and evidently will be more trouble from the release of the Covid-19 virus from China. But have taken the Moderna vaccine in March, I'm looking into the boosters now. As with me, my wife, a retired nurse, has had many reservations on taking any of the vaccines; but since she has not, and in light of the current comments, we are discussing whether she should. I believe she is going to go ahead and do it. Looking now for a location to take the Moderna. Can't get it from where I did, since I was injected thru my Oncology Clinc. Mac...I really appreciate your last few posts here. I appreciate the opinions and facts you have presented. It's well worth knowing your background and understanding your rationale. Makes it easier to show all this to my wife. Thank you.

You said he's been saying it. I just posted confirming he said it. Was booed in response.

Uncle Phil and Johnny B were more a comedy duo than a talk show. I’ll sure miss listening to them. They had a chemistry that made a great program. I really enjoyed their encyclopedic knowledge of all things musical. Unlike Ruth Bader Ginsberg and John McCain, their life’s goal was to entertain; not to destroy the greatest country earth has ever known. Apples and oranges.

People in general are increasingly nasty these days. I come home each night with a story to tell of some kind of rude occurrence. I believe a lot of it is social media "warriors" forgetting where they are.

What if we just made shooting people illegal?