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The insurance companies have zero worries regardless of which path they choose to take. They’ll have the regulations rewritten to cover them while getting bailed out by the taxpayers. So while y’all have been carping about the single mom in the trailer on the other side of town getting a thousand bucks a month. The insurance companies and other megacorps have been getting billions in corporate welfare annually. (Like Jeff Bezos who got a $10 billion subsidy for losses on his Blue Origin ego stroke after losing out to SpaceX for the NASA contract.) I would feel pretty safe in saying that none of us here are in the tax bracket where the government actually works for us. But they and their friends in the media (all arms and levels of it) are doing a helluva job of ensuring that we’re all too busy fighting each other to focus on who’s really ####ing us over. Let me put it more plainly, Tucker Carlson isn’t on your side anymore than Rachel Maddow is but they’re both extremely adept at playing all of us for profit.

That’s a great idea. then we can also not treat people that are obese, smoke, drink and so on. I like the way your friend thinks

I referred to it as a light quip because it’s very deep into the territory of “sh’t that ain’t ever gonna effing happen.“

I’m down for the idea of removing access to social services for those who choose not to get the vaccine but only if it means they get to choose to not pay taxes as well. And if that’s the case, can I give this vaccine back?

That's just wrong. I'm vaccinated, but I believe in everyone's right to do with their bodies as they will. This is just another case of driving a wedge between different groups. I seriously think that people are subconciously itching for some sort a civil war.

I would be ok with that if the ones that get a reaction to the CCP virus shot also get refused any help.

So people who cannot take the vaccine, (like my daughter who has severe CRPS), are to either pay for their care or by put on low priority? Brilliant idea...NOT!

I propose we stop treating folks who can’t or won’t pay the bill. That’ll open up resources for those of us who do.

Do you also not believe that it is a business' right to run their business how they see fit? For me, as long as it is not the government, a business should be able to run things however they see fit. That actually includes discrimination for any reason. (Not looking for a response to the last part as I know it would have a quick death). In seriousness though, we do too much talking out both sides of our mouth's. It sucks for some people for sure. Greg, I hope your wife does what she wants. I suspect you are in a better position than most that she can actually have a decision to make.

This is one *issed deer for whatever reason. Strange to say the least, LOL.

FWIW, I think "right to work" is being confused with "at will employment" in this thread. The former describes a state where employees cannot be compelled to join a union. The latter describes a state where employees can quit or be fired for any (legal) reason at any time, in the absence of a written contract to the contrary. Tennessee is both.

This has never been more clear than in the last year. We have a thread on it elsewhere but ill post it here since you mentioned Bezos. A recent story about the USPS stated they lost 9.2 billion last year. This was per their annual fiscal report. Interestingly enough they claim it would be worse had it not been for the deal they made with Amazon during O's last term. After digging a little deeper it turns out Bezos made some kind of deal with USPS using their logistics in turn for a undisclosed profit. While it may be a common practice I personally didn't get a warm fuzzy feeling from anything he has control of.

From where I am sitting they are turning a blind eye to sorry asses on the gvt dole and trying dicate how I live my life, the working man.

This last page brings up a good question. How many are out there unvaxxed and draw a welfare check ? Would it be ok to drop them from receiving health care when they get it ? I am willing to wager a great number of them fall within the high risk category. And since they receive and NOT put in the kiddie they are 100% a burden to the system already.

I do wonder if/when we will see an insurance company reject someone’s life insurance claim because they were taking a non FDA approved drug. I wouldn’t put it past the insurance industry.

I believe in that right for businesses. It doesn’t make sense to me, but they can definitely do as they please. I also believe that this should also open the company to any possible liability that could ever arise from such a mandate.

I don't think I own it yet.

Hey Darrell all you need to do is click on a username and find out info. Ed will be 72 in November, only 3 years older than me. Hey Ed, don't quit on us now, but sometimes you need to go fishing or a number of other hobbies. I won't quit shooting until I am deceased. I may not shoot 500 rounds a week like I used to, but I will shoot. I have a shooting outing planned for the 19th with a good friend. You need to smell burnt gunpowder every now and then, it's smell will bring back happy memories.

During my tenure as a teacher, we had 4 or 5 bomb threats. Best I remember, all occurred on Fridays, and all were called in roughly around lunch. At least 2 of them were later found to have been made by a former student, working in a job where he got off at noon each Friday, who's current girlfriend was still in high school ...

Never had a bomb threat, could count the hunting rifles hanging in truck window racks during hunting season, and saw multiple handguns in classrooms over the years. No school shootings, no death threats, no PTSD, emotional support gerbils, etc. And the only deaths outside of class were auto related accidents and health related.

There is more to life than shooting. I've cut way back on trigger time due to the current climate but have no intention of walking away. Things will return to how they were eventually. In the meantime I'm enjoying some of my other 27 hobbies.

Favorite handgun? Whichever one is on me when I need one.

I work on the Range side of the new Outpost, I don't post much here, but thought I'd chime in on a couple of things and give a brief description of the range, 7-25yd lanes, rifle/pistol/shotgun, upper cal limit is .308, shotguns use slug or buck only, no hip fire. 7-15yd lanes, handgun only, 3-100 yd rifle, .50 cal max. The only ammo restrictions are no tracers or incendiary rounds. You CAN shoot reloads, steel case, steel core, green tip, etc. Not part of any other range, Barrett owns the store and range. Cant speak on the reloading section of the store, I stick to the range side as an Instructor/RSO. You guys are welcome to come check it out and if Im not tied up I'll show you around. Bud

Personally...I think the best answer for me is this. Darn near all of them!

There's nothing I enjoy more than a revolver. Or maybe a 1911...wait.....A .22 rifle.........

Hmmm... how to train a deer to do what I legally can't...

You are correct, sir. I got my wording all screwed up. Thanks for the correction.

A business should be able to run as the owner sees fit and I have the right to tell them to stick it where the sun don’t shine and walk when I don’t like their rules, which I have done twice in the past.

Same thing happened to me after neglecting one of my favorite rifles with a bunch of steel case ammo and too little cleaning. I decided it was cheaper to buy a new barrel that get a smith to fool with it. ***not saying that's your issue, but it seems like a reasonable assumption without knowing more.

To hot to shoot to hot to fish shoot billards in a/c wait till fall

Not sure that would fly. That would require re-writing a policy, which is specifically tailored to an individual based on age, health, blood pressure, blood sugar, weight, family history, etc. and these risks are used to calculate premiums. The insurance companies would risk losing a customer who is committed to paying premiums for X more years. But we are talking about insurance companies, so who knows.

As much as that sounds good, we don't want that. What else then are we willing to let the .gov dictate we must do in order to get some cheese. The solution to the welfare problem is literally cheese. Rice, beans, dried milk, bread, and eggs. You get all of that you want. We will give you enough to keep you alive, but the rest is up to you.

I actually think it would go the other way. Get vaccinated or we aren't covering any expenses remotely related to Covid. Or with the transmissions rates as they are, drop you all together. I can imagine costs are up, but not sure. To be honest, I am not really sure who is responsible for what at this point when it comes to treatments requiring any significant hospitalization. Is the .gov picking that up?

Doesn’t seem like a quip. If services are withheld from certain individuals, they should be refunded some tax money that funds those services.

We had a good turn out for our weekly handgun match. Basically, each person shoots against himself. Everybody there is retired. We had a visitor, a young guy, that came today. He spoke of bargains in store bought cartridges and the dis-economy of reloading. Nobody said anything. He was speaking of Black Rifles and 9mm self-loaders. I think shooting as I knew is going the way of the dinosaurs. I'm getting back up to speed getting rifles fixed and making up handloads. I'll need to cast some 38 wadcutters. Also, the hunt is one for .264 bullets. That old Clark Custom K-38 and can keep up with the self-loaders in our relaxed Bullseye Match. I'm reversing Burnout as we speak.

That's ridiculous!

Come on man. It's scientifically proven that coronavirus kills the flu virus. Like 3 people in the US got the flu last year.

I also keep mine what we called cruiser ready tube full chamber empty. The safety is personal choice but be use to disengaging it if you use it.

The more you value things outside your control, the less control you have. - Epictetus

That's an easy one, soccer moms + facebook

Greg was an innocent bystander that just happened to have his fishing gear with him that day!! We joke about that, but this is how times have changed and sad to say, not for the better!!

Chamber empty, safety off, trigger pulled already. Just need to rack the slide.

Empire needs a mass firing. All they accomplish is their own personal wealth. Maybe if you start with a bunch of first term folks, they will accomplish a little of the peoples' work.

It’s essentially this. America has really never been homogeneous. But, with 330 million+ people we’re made up of a ton of different people groups - different races, ethnicities, urban folks, rural folks, different socioeconomic backgrounds. America is more of a melting pot today than it’s ever been. And when you get elected - regardless of the rhetoric that got you elected - now you work for everybody. And all of those different constituencies can make your job easier or harder in a way that’s different than you experienced on the campaign trail - and no one can prepare you for that. Then there’s the fact that you’re really constrained when you’re in office - both by the incredibly finite time that is 4 years - and by the decisions that have been made before you got here. Let’s take those two separately. First, time. You get 1461 days. That’s seems like a long time - but it’s not. Our last administration really didn’t understand how short of a time 4 years is. You behave differently when you know the end is near. But the second is really constraining - in that you’re bound by the decisions of the past. Take the debt limit talks were currently in. As much political theater as we turn these talks into every couple years - they have exactly zero bearing on our future legislation or actions. Raising the debt limit is all about servicing the debt associated with decisions of Congresses past Raising the debt limit isn’t about continued spending - it’s about whether or not we as a country want to pay our credit card bill. That’s not an apples to apples analogy - because the government budget isn’t actually like a family budget - but the comparison holds here. Then there’s the fact that our Congress is almost completely unwilling and is increasingly incapable of doing anything of consequence. Add to that our zero sum politics (that is for something to be good for me it must necessarily be bad for you) and it’s really hard to get much done. Take for example Representative Madison Cawthorn. For the current Congress he doesn’t have a single legislative staff member - choosing instead to “focus on messaging.” This might be great if you like seeing him “stick it to the libs” on NewsMax, but it doesn’t do much for folks in his district. So, take a dysfunctional Congress, and it doesn’t matter what your ambitions are when you take office. It really doesn’t matter what you campaigned on. You’re more or less constrained to managing a system that’s already in motion. Really smart politicians realize early that they maybe get one initiative of any substance that they’ll have the political capital to swing at. Sure you can do some stuff by executive order - but Trump spent his term undoing Obama’s EO’s and Biden has already more or less undone Trump’s. Add in budget realities and the percentages that are captured by military and social programs - and there’s not much room to maneuver. I’m willing to extend everyone the courtesy of assuming the best of intentions - but managing this show is tough at best. When you add in our Federalist system of a bunch of little states with differing goals and perspectives - it really is more like an empire than a single homogeneous entity. I could go on at length - but “empire is hard” rounds to true.

Ruger MK I &MK II’s

Browning HiPower, hands down.

Hard to pick just one. I love 1911s and S&W revolvers. Doesn't really matter what model. I suppose if I had to pick just one, it would be my S&W Model 18 .22lr. I shoot this one more than any other gun I own.

1911. Doesn’t really matter which exact one. I just love the gun. Not always that practical to carry, does not hold many rounds, it pretty low-tech by some of today’s standards. But I have always loved the 1911. I don’t carry a 1911, and I love my P365XL/507K for that. But there is something about the 1911 that is just so….. right.

My favorite handgun is my Sig 'We The People' 1911. It has a distressed stainless finish on it and several different patriotic factory engravings.