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This one should be here this week. Started out as a 1962 S&W then ended up at Clark Customs in 1976 to be turned into a PPC competition gun. This one is in 38spl.

A three-judge panel for the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit ruled Tuesday that the federal ban against 18-20-year-olds buying handguns is unconstitutional. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/07/13/federal-appeals-court-handgun-purchase-ban-for-18-20-year-olds-unconstitutional/

So if you wouldn't bring a rifle into the hotel then you'd leave it in the vehicle unattended in the parking lot? It's coming into the hotel with me (and everything else I don't want stolen) and getting taken with me when I leave the room. I don't even like leaving my clothes in a hotel room unattended.... Now the biggest problem here is that it was in Chicago with their draconian gun laws. If this were Jackson MS, or Memphis Tn, or Savannah GA, or Fort Walton FL, or Harrisburg PA, or Shepherdsville KY, or Little Rock AR or Prescott AZ, or Ann Arbor MI, or any number of other cities I have traveled to either taking or teaching classes or just simply vacationing (with a long gun and loaded mags each time) then this would not be an issue. But the fact that it was A in Illinois and B in Chicago is where this becomes a problem and C if you are going to have to leave it in the room you are going to need to put the do not disturb sign up and hide it somewhere like behind the fridge or somewhere that the casual observer does not see without having to put forth some effort.

Thanks for everyone's input! After work, I ran to the grocery store for things to make BLTs for dinner. On the way I stopped at my LGS and checked out their selection. I found a like new Mossberg Maverick with a FDE colored stock set and the 7 shot extended tube magazine for $200. It's in lay-a-way for the next couple of weeks, then it will come out. I swear I don't think it's been fired. No scratches on it or anything! They said an ex-employee came in and traded it in. He'd had it at a cabin and never used it. It does have the bead front sight, and not a rifle blade, but I've shot them before and I'm comfortable with it. I think it's a bargain! Think I will still look at picking up one of those Benelli clones in the future though.

I don’t feel that this is a dead horse issue. It’s getting more and more alarming. The DNC now wants to censor your personal text messages if they are deemed to contain misinformation about covid. Who determines what is or isn’t misinformation? ”Biden allied groups, including the Democratic National Committee, are also planning to engage fact-checkers more aggressively and work with SMS carriers to dispel misinformation about vaccines that is sent over social media and text messages.” https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/12/biden-covid-vaccination-campaign-499278

The six-shot revolver is enough for probably 97% of the scenarios any of us will encounter while out and about in our everyday lives. Until the data that has validated this for a ridiculously long time shows otherwise, I wouldn't get too over analytical on conjecture. If we truly need more, the spidey sense should be tingling before the real life range is hot and an egress is the far better option. Seeing some BLM/Antifa mobs on TV shouldn't fear drive everyday decision making if you're otherwise practicing good situational awareness.

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We get calls everyday from people that got "just the leads" or "bullet heads" when they were expecting AMMO when they ordered something listed as BULLETS .

Were I ever forced to go to Chicago, that's about what my luggage would look like.

Here is an article about NYPD and their shooting prowess.... https://citylimits.org/2016/11/29/nypd-gets-pressure-from-the-right-on-guns/ Pay attention to this passage.... According to the NYPD’s annual firearms discharge report, individual officers fired fewer than 15 rounds in 89 percent of the combat incidents in which the NYPD was involved last year. Sixty-five percent of officers involved in what the PD calls “adversarial” shootings in 2015 fired five or fewer bullets. What that just said is that in 35% of the incidents they fired more than 5 and in 11% they fired 15 or MORE .

Academy Sports has been having the Mossberg 88 Security lately for $199. That is the best buy in a defense shotgun that I have seen. I have a Mossberg 590 and a Remington 870 both but bought a Maverick anyway at that price.

There are many people in this country that carry guns anywhere they want everyday and are not restricted at all by what the gun laws are. They probably number in the millions. They also commit armed robbery, murder, rape, sell drugs, rob banks, burglarize homes, jack cars and trucks, commit home invasions and such like. They will continue to carry guns anywhere they want everyday and will not be restricted at all by what the gun laws are. They probably number in the millions.

As I stated in the other thread, I had several Suzuki Intruder 1400's, which are the chopper style, and one Boulvard 1500, all good bikes. Moved up to a HD Road King, did some engine mods to it before I even rode it and was tickled to death with it and it's performance/ride. The RK is a step below the full blown touring bikes with just hard saddle bags, no touring trunk or full fairing. Weight was around 800# +/-. The HD handled better at slow parking lot speeds than the Suzuki's did, and rode better overall. I had a 2000 MY, with air adjustable shocks on the rear which they stopped offering soon after I got mine. Engine mods made the bike run like a scalded dog, and could cruise the roads in E TN with "authority".

I am not disagreeing with you, however I would love to hear their definition of "shall not be infringed".

DUMB ASS, granted. But Chicago criminalizes that, and that is wrong. And the cost to defend being a DUMB ASS is immense. And that is wrong. Why is sacrosanct Chicago not subject to all of the normally recognized laws of our country that protect our citizens, including the Bill of Rights?

I actually saw a mew Bronco in the wild today! Anybody else seen one yet?

I have an opportunity to purchase a Tungsten Grey Canik TP9SFX 9mm and am trying to determine what's a reasonable offer or trade - just don't know much about their value other than internet search. Saw one in use at USPSA match and have wanted one since. It has the Vortex Red Dot, rear sight, and all adapter plates. Comes in the factory box with all paperwork and accessories. Also comes with a Freedom trigger, 4 - 20 round factory mags, canted competition holster, extra firing pins, spare threaded barrel, and Springco Performance recoil kit. Looks like it has not been shot much, very clean, tight lockup, seems tight. Said it has around 600+ rounds through it. He went to one match and has not been back, wasn't his thing. Took a pic of it and told him I'd let him know this week. Thought's opinions.

Good news that doesn’t really change much. Another circuit court will put in an injunction. The Supreme Court needs to make some rulings.

From someone who carries a suppressed AR 10 through a lobby of a motel 5 or 6 times a year, this seems alien to me. To be honest, I usually only have 250-300 rounds on me. The funniest moment was when I was covered head to toe with blood at a Denny's with a white buddy of mine at 3:00 am. We were talking to a black couple for an hour about everything. Great people and great waitress. Not one person batted an eye or asked what the hell was going on. GOD BLESS TEXAS.

Could you find an old 870 police trade in? That's what I did. It was a little beat up on the outside, and you could tell it had been in the sun a lot but it functions perfectly. I got mine at Craig's on Chapman Hwy. I think I paid $350 though.

The Stevens 320 is the old Winchester 1300 design. Good solid design.

I got a Churchhill 612 for like $250, pistol grip, rail, sights. I put a light on it, extended magazine and a sidesaddle. I was under $400 for everything and it eats whatever I feed it.

I was actually looking for a Dyna Lowrider when I ran across this deal on my Street Glide Special. Still wish I had found a smoking deal on a Dyna, or especially a Heritage, which is what I’m looking for now. Keep in mind that the Fat Boy is a Softail as well, just like the Heritage you rode. If possible, take that 2007 to a good Harley tech and see if they have a way to check the crank. I’ve heard ‘07 was not a good year for cranks, but of course don’t take my word for that. While you’re searching you might start looking up some videos on better/worse year models for whichever style you want. Kevin Baxter has some good videos out there, along with other pros. I’m not a pro, I just play one in my dreams. So my advice is worth slightly less than what you paid for it.

Academy also has the Savage Stephens 320 for $229 that has a pistol grip stock if that is better for you. Shows in Stock in Johnson City. https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/savage-stevens-320-12-gauge-pump-action-shotgun?sku=right-12-gauge-18-5

IMO, a RK is a suitable LD touring bike IF set up for it. I put a Corbin saddle w/ backrest on mine, a low to med height windscreen and lower wind deflectors on the forks. I rode this bike to Daytona Bike week from East TN, a mix of 2 lane and interstate. Interstate traffic is a bit different with the big rigs blowing you around more than 2 lane roads. Wind buffeting/noise at 70 mph was not bad and tolerable making a 300 mile day easy to do IMO. I usually split a trip to Daytona up over 2 days just cause I wanted to enjoy the trip. Ear plugs reduce the wind noise and still allowed me to hear traffic on the interstate. I even towed a Bushtec trailer behind the RK for a couple yrs as well, so you can really pack "heavy" if desired. I still have a travel bag that slips over the backrest pad and will hold enough clothes for a week if you pack right, and don't have to have a clean shirt twice a day. Is a RK a good as a full touring bike, I can't say because I never had a desire for a full fairing bike nor ever rode one, so take what I say with some salt if desired. LOL You should decide what style/type of bike you want/need for the type of riding you want or intend to. Just day rides, or wanna go cross country, to bike week, etc.

I have used this site to see body position on different bikes. If nothing else it kills some time. https://cycle-ergo.com/

Is ammunition becoming available again? I rode past a gunship in Crossville yesterday and their outdoor reader-board was advertising 9mm at $21.00 a box. I didn't stop, so I don't know what brand it was, but I was encouraged to actually see ammo ADVERTISED as available. Now if I could just find some primers.....

The enemy gets a say too. I carry a double stack 9mm with a spare magazine.

Back from my trip was a great week of old cars but may take another week to get everything put away and recuperate Reach for the sky

Then there's the guys like me. My truck gets washed when it rains. Once a year or so I take out the floormats and shake the top 2 inches of crap out. I also figure that oil leaks prevent rust, and oil is fairly cheap. My last truck was at 363k when I decided to park it and buy another. Sold it earlier this year, the new owner is happily driving it daily, albeit it's much cleaner than when I owned it. I figure it will quit any day now as a result of all that cleaning ...

I have a SAIGA direct from Mother Russia. I have done a few things to it to get to run like a semi should, changed the gas puck and put in an adjustable gas tube plug. Mine will bump fire the cheap WWB 12 you get from wally world, you know, bugger hook in a belt loop. Made an adapter to use different chokes, even use a rifled choke for slugs, makes it a minute of paper plate at 100 yards. Buy some cheap ammo, shoot it a lot on the cheap ammo. Then buy a few boxes of different ammo, slugs, buck and heavy shot. Then figure out what your shot gun likes.

I didn't personally know anyone at all who has died of Covid. So according to your premise, it's valid to surmise nobody has died of it at all. - OS

I’ll be happy when this is well and truly over if only for the death of this thread.

Medical prevention/treatment of any malady is all about probability based on the availability of scientific evidence. In the US, some 600 Covid vaccinated people have so far been documented to have died with Covid itself being the primary cause of death. Compare with the +600K non-vaccinated folks who Rona croaked. I'll take the odds offered by that "worm" any day. - OS

DING! We have a winner. It's real, but has been a political tool from the beginning.

Interesting twist. For months I was told Covid would disappear as soon as Joe took over.

I’d start reevaluating that thought process if I were you. If you’re talking about the 3 shot, 3 seconds, 3 yards bit, that’s an often repeated, but wholly incorrect piece of data that is far more myth than fact. The data used to build that stat comes from NYC officer involved shootings when revolvers were the standard issue sidearm. More recent data is that the number is around 8 rounds fired. Still, that doesn’t negate the need to carry a spare magazine to fix a malfunction were one to occur.

S&W 5 shot 38. Anymore needed to get me out of that situation means I messed up big. I use to take chances but now the chances are alot less attractive. The H&K is too heavy

I've read multiple stories now about people who didn't want the vaccine, got COVID, and subsequently died. I wonder, if in their last conscious thoughts, they are still glad they stuck it to Fauci and the rest. "Tricia Jones, a 45-year-old mother of two in Grain Valley, a small city in western Missouri, did not get the vaccine because she was concerned about the side effects. Her mother, Deborah Carmichael, had felt sick after getting a shot, and Jones decided to wait. This spring, Jones caught the virus. She was hospitalized May 13 and died June 9. Now, as Sherae Honeycutt of Fox4 in Kansas City writes: Her family is praying people will see Tricia’s life as a call to action to get their vaccine — if not for themselves, for the ones they love. “Please take this seriously. You don’t want to see a family member you love go through this,” Carmichael said. “You have a way better chance of coming out OK than if you don’t.” “I really miss you. I miss you a lot,” Adriana [Jones’s 18-year-old daughter] said."

Probably the best way to do that is to read the opinions, both majority and concurring, of the DC and Illinois cases (McDonald and Heller)from a few years back. That's probably as close as you'll find of the current thinking on the Court. Another interesting read is the report from the Senate Judiciary committee from 1982, one of the earliest government proclamations that the Second Amendment guaranteed an individual's right to bear arms, as opposed to the generally prevailing view of most courts that it represented only a right of state-sponsored militias ...

I’d love to see the list of medications many put into their bodies on a daily basis, all of which are capable of starting something else that wasn’t a problem before.

The “rifle” mags in that pic aren’t loaded, the pistol mags are. My understanding is the “rifle” was loaded. Did they unload those clips so they wouldn’t spontaneously jump up into the gun and start a massacre before the photo-op?

Yes i can confirm that is an arsenal if you look at their playbook. Now my playbook suggests that's just daily carry stuff. Lord help me if they look in my truck. Lol. I will say if I had to travel to certain areas in our country common sense would prevail and I would "declutter" and follow their laws to a T. Not worth risking everything by doing aomething stupid.

This is just my opinion, the man’s first mistake was going to Chicago with firearms on his person. The second mistake was leaving a loaded rifle with magazines loaded in a hotel room overlooking a busy street. I just have two words for this “DUMB ASS”!!!

My solution is simple. I never buy anything that isn't a V8 ...

Here you go ...

If 34 people attack at once then even a Glock 9mm with a 33 round mag is not enough. Every armed defense class I have had presumes one or two attackers. IDPA sometimes uses multiple target scenarios, but I don’t carry in case an IDPA match suddenly comes at me on the street (humor). Carry what you are comfortable with

We have had a 3 person Early Rifle Elk Hunt donated to us by an outfitter near Missoula, MT that one of our committee members has worked for in the past. It is a backcountry hunt valued at $13,200, however, we will be selling chances on it for $50/chance and we are going to try and reward it at the banquet. Need not be present to win.

Magpul MS4 has pretty much become my goto. I use it for everything.