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All of the recent scammer activity on TGO and other big gun forums uses the same tactic: A new "member" registers for an account and immediately sends a private message to legitimate members of the community with an alleged off-site, out of state contact, who either has the item they want to buy or is wanting to buy the item they have to sale. To date 100% of this activity has been fraudulent. In order to make it harder for these scum to operate in the shadows, I am considering the following changes to TGO: Placing all new members into a category that forbids them from being able to send a private message until X-Number of days have passed since registering, or X-Number of posts have been made in other areas, or some combination of the two. If a person wants to bypass that restriction, they can buy a Benefactor subscription, at which point we have a way to track them down if they do something illegal. Otherwise they participate by providing meaningful content for a brief period of time, after which they can send private messages. What do you all say about this plan?

My dog is a better person than most people I meet! Smarter too.

As bad as some of you feel about this, it is much better than abandoning the animal somewhere. We have had many dogs abandoned in the area of my house that's in the country.

RIO GRANDE, 1950 John Wayne and his son Patrick

Shows how much the us infrastructure needs to be updated. Power, fuel and roads all need major work. Tons of unsafe bridges and barely serviceable roads. Old and weak electrical grids that are vulnerable to nature and outside forces. Over dependence on a few places for fuel needs that cripple entire sectors if something happens. I dont give two ####s what side of the isle you say you are from, we need a MAJOR infrastructural overhaul NOW.

Now I bet some idjit wrecks on the old bridge and jacks it all up.

That's a lot of trucking about to get rerouted if this is a thing.

Just the two in Memphis. The one I referenced is between Missouri and Tennessee. And then there’s another one of wee bit south between Arkansas and Mississippi that isn’t too big of a detour. Now, if you were just needing to go from Memphis to West Memphis, your hosed. My routes go over much longer distances so I can start gradual shifts north or south and only add a small amount of miles to my trip to route around Memphis.

Ouch! It seems Ayn Rand’ “Atlas Shrugged” is coming to fruition.

I hope our pipelines and grid infrastructure will get a little more hardened. I used to work with a lot of pipelines monitoring them for corrosion and they have pretty much went to computer automated valves that a few guys in a control room in Houston or wherever can open and close valves. I personally wish they would keep some manual control valves in place. If the thugs hit more that 1 pipeline at a time it would be very crippling. Cross your fingers they get this worked out before the weekend.

Here is the finished rifle, thanks for all the kind words. Sorry Greg, I am keeping this one, you know how hard it is to find a correct handed rifle.

When I was 14 before I knew of much about real guns, we had a guy that rented from us. One day I see him walking down to the pond out back and he was caring a Carbine and a plastic pail. Curious about it, I ran down back and caught up with him just as he tossed the pail out in the water and proceeded to put 30 rounds into it as it sunk under the surface. That was my "Holy Crap" eyes bugging out moment of rapid fire baptism. After that, I wanted to know all about guns. The US M1 Carbine, Love em or hate em..... they are an icon of history, mine included!

I learned a few things in SERE School, one of which was to "Go Ugly Early". That was in reference to using what you could find in the field to survive and save the rations for when you couldn't find anything and were in dire need. I do this with my reloading supplies, I cast and reload to shoot and save my commercial bullets for hunting and SD use. I have very few commercially loaded rounds left, but those too are put aside. I have plenty of, and continue to add to, reloading supplies, if I were to reload everything I have I wouldn't need to reload for the rest of my life unless SHTF. I have a full combat load for each of my weapons, I just reload what I will use in the near future and leave the rest as components in case I need or want to do any trading or selling as I do not/will not sell any reloads.

Just an update on the ongoing saga. The ATF called me back after I mailed everything that San Bernardino County sent me, evidently it's not enough as it doesn't address actual the actual charges listed? The charges listed were either dropped or plead down to some minor stuff and so it show's a different charge I guess. I've sent fingerprints and a request for a full background check from the CA DOJ and I asked the representative from the ATF to please keep the file open until we hear back from them. This is way out of my wheelhouse, but I'll keep after it and update when I can.

Sounds like you are in an ideal situation. I’m not yet in that situation, but once I’m there I think I would load enough to shoot 4-6 months at a time, or to survive the first couple waves of zombies, and then load more as needed. Worse case scenario, if you ever needed money for any reason you could easily sell off the components, or once you’ve passed if your family isn’t quite as into shooting as you they would have a much easier time selling the components than your loaded ammunition. I’m only 40, but a lot of my gun/ammo purchases at this point have ease of future resale in mind, as my kids just aren’t anywhere into it like I am. For probably the last 10 years anytime we have gone into a store that sells ammunition I have always bought a box (if they’ve had any) and often tell my wife and kids when they roll their eyes that I’m “investing in their future” or “investing in precious metals”. Whatever route you go, don’t feel guilty that you are in your position. You are there because you’ve built yourself a life that provided you the means to prepare for “whatever may come” and you’ve obviously had the foresight and discipline to do just that. I for one salute you, and am trying my best to emulate.

Hello, I am a new forum user, so if I am responding to these incorrectly please let me know. Unfortunately, I come from Iowa and there is never a possibility for expungement. But, one can not dwell on the past, only move towards the future. In response to my criminal record I am neither embarrassed or ashamed to share it. At the age of 18 my parent's rightfully kicked me out our home in the winter, I was inclined to break into a used clothing store and steal clothing along with money that was in a purse display. Now, I must say that although I thought I was extremely bright in the moment, it was proven that the life of crime was not for me. There is nothing more embarrassing than waking up in a pile of used clothing and having two police officers laughing at the absurdity of it. It only took one time. The store owners wanted to hit me with everything they could and now I have four felonies for burglary. Yes, I believe that I deserved what I received for a sentence, but I would be lying if I did not say it leaves me frustrated at times. I do not believe my crime fits into the categories of violence, drugs or firearms. Although I am happy spending the rest of my life using only archery equipment, I do miss the ability to hit a target at more than 40 ft lbs. Oh to be young, unintelligent and have a lack of being able to perceive the future. In response to your officers thoughts on felons owning firearms, they are wrong. According to the ATF one should only go by the definition of a antique firearm and be careful in those regards. It is also impossible because of explosive regulations for me to posses black powder. Each state is a minefield of regulations as is the federal government. I am a pyrodex or nothing man that knows to not to use primers and only use percussion caps. No. I am not a child molester or rapist and am quite sure we would both handle them the same way.

I adopted my GSD on February 7, 2020. I wasn’t prepared either. I wasn’t prepared for the unbelievable level of love that he has for us. And I wasn’t prepared for the absolute, complete, total, deep rooted love I have for him. Even my wife, who has been cold and indifferent toward animals, is head over heels for him. We weren’t prepared for that either. In other words he is absolutely one of the very best things that has ever happened to us. He is no less than a full fledged family member, and he is loved and protected as such. For the life of me I cannot understand how people can consider a pet as a disposable fad to be abandoned or disposed of after they have been used. Pets do not deserve that kind of treatment and in my opinion it takes a special kind of trash to do that. But these days this stupid society is packed full of very special kinds of trash.

Kids aren't supposed to be fads either but there sure are a lot of people who pump them out because they're "cute".

I'm kind of impressed your company would care enough to track down post on local forums, half way around the world to correct misinformation. May have to take a look at a Girsan.

There are OTHER forums?? Wow. I never knew that. I seem to live here.

Strange. Word hasn't got out here in the hood. It was business as usual at the local Kenjo/Shell station.

OR PSA lost my order again..

That is going to cause some problems.

Midway has some Federal 38 Spec. 158 Lead round nose. $55 a box. Nope sorry I can not bring myself to pay those prices. I will just conserve what little I have. I think $ 30 was the highest I paid during Obama panic. And I didn’t buy much.

For sure. I've never shot a Savage that wasn't very accurate. That looks great!

Now for some hand loading and testing.

I was fortunate enough to learn after the Sandyhook shooting, I stockpiled up on 45acp. Reloading components, I've amassed 110,000 LG Pistol Primers, 40# of Powder, and 35,000 200grn swc. and probably at least 80,000-100,000 pieces of 45acp Brass, and about 35,000 rnds loaded up, wish I could have foreseen that I just got into the 9mm scene, but never bought any Small Pistol Primers. If they ever come back in-stock I'll be stocking up again.

Our dogs have always been considered family. We take care of them for life. Our last two dogs have been shelter dogs and I won’t ever buy from a dog breeder again.

Your house, your rules.

It was very common “back in the day” to delink belts of .50 ammo to shoot out of the Barret M107. The one exception to this was the slap rounds, for this exact reason. The M2 with its crowned barrel had no issues with them of course, but the M107 with its muzzle brake had known issues, and it’s the only round that I know of that was prohibited for use in the Barret. I recall there was even a picture up for awhile in our arms room of a left handed shooter that had been injured to the right side of his face from a catastrophic failure that had occurred after shooting a few slap through his Barret. There were also instances of spotters being injured by the shed petals deflecting back at them. Possibly another contributing factor at play in this instance would be the higher pressures that the SLAP rounds needed to achieve the velocities required for effective armor penetration. I don’t recall exactly but I recall there was a substantial muzzle velocity difference between the SLAP rounds and the standard FMJ round used in the Barret, something to the tune of 1,200fps difference. Thankfully the guy in the video lived to tell the tale, and if nothing else it will hopefully spread the word and prevent others from this same dangerous mistake. It’s wild how we can get in our own bubble sometimes and think these things are just common knowledge/sense to everyone.

Good. All they'll do is create panic and make the problem worse.

VERY interesting read! Thanks for sharing that. It makes me wonder why MSM hasn't been providing the full story. Instead we get "news" articles and opinion pieces that belittle us for even daring to think that the virus could have been manipulated by man. I don't agree that function gain testing should be banned; I see great value in it. But I do think there should be international protocols on what can be done and total transparency to international oversight by qualified scientists. Unfortunately, as the article points out, scientists who don't toe the political line now risk loss of funding and ostracism. I suppose everything is political, but science should be the least political of human endeavor.

I'm sorry. Lone voice of dissent here. If you can't smell these scams from a mile away, then I have some ocean front property in Arizona.... These PMs are a slight nuisance, but I have always thought haggling and bartering was best done in PMs, not in the thread. Without the ability to PM, you get people offering trades that could just as easily be viewed as bypassing Purchasing benefactor status. Either way is fine. The fact that you ask for input is another monument to the real community of this site. Thanks!

European countries have designated the barrel as the part of a gun that makes it a "firearm" for many years ...

They won’t be back online until the weekend at the earliest. So, it’s worth getting gas sooner rather than later. There are a lot of resources being marshaled because of the critically - but this stuff takes time. We’re dealing with sophisticated attackers these days. We’ve seen them recon networks from the inside for months. We’ve seen backups infected and deleted. With SCADA access, it’s possible to cause actual physical damage. This is the real deal - and likely the tip of a larger iceberg. It’s the kind of stuff that leads to kinetic responses.

I believe all of us are smart enough to see a scam when it happens. The idea of minimum number of posts before sending a PM is OK.

Keep it as your retirement fund.

If you don't need it loaded, sit on it. You can always load as needed, and or sell if needed. You're in great shape. We all should be so fortunate. JMHO

Girlfriend and I shoot alot of 38 special. You got me worried so had to look at my stash. Looks like i will be ok unless China invades us.

https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/ We should not be funding, and should very likely ban function gain testing.

In a Glock 20 I never found the recoil to be brutal but the dual recoil spring may absorb a little recoil compared to a gen 3. However, the gen 3 Glock 20SF was a favorite of my wife years ago. I don’t believe I have ever shot a 29.

The primary factor may be ammo and/or partial muzzle brake obstruction but the gun is just a bad design overall. It is basically a pipe bomb that requires the user to detonate it with their face resting on the frame. This may be the only failure that has occurred with the design and it might be reasonable to blame it entirely on ammo but I am still not shooting one even with known ammo. Closed screw breech designs belong on black powder muzzle loaders not modern high pressure smokeless powder centerfire rifles, especially those with ~150+ grains of powder. The unknown history or provenance of surplus ammo is one of the reasons I only run new production, known manufacturer, and known component (projectile type and weight, brass, ect.) in my 50 BMG's.

I call that non-sense, in that they have NO sense. I may shoot less, shoot .22 and pellet guns, but I refuse to pay stupid prices. I thought the last go round in '08 I had seen some crazy stuff, but this out does it. I have seen 30-30 for over $4 per round, SPP at $325 plus shipping, plus lots of common ammo go for crazy prices. I really feel sorry for the new gun owners that for whatever reason age etc, they didn't get to enjoy the cheap prices of yesteryear. I know things will never be as cheap, but hopefully one day this storm will pass and some normality will return.

I can't believe he lived. That's an incredible story.

Be still my beating heart! Gorgeous!

Good points all. I agree, especially with @Grayfox54. Ubiquitous guns, but produced in low volumes for the past few decades as there was the financial incentive to produce a greater volume. Those of us that actually shoot .38 spl and .357 to any degree tend to cast and reload those rounds. I shoot my .38's weekly, but I shoot 9mm 10:1 or greater. I handload all of my target ammo. While I am fine on components for the foreseeable future, I dread what the replacement costs will be down the road for powder and primers. We, as a shooting community, are under fire from the left more vehemently than I can recall for the past 40 years. With our current political situation the possibility of more difficult and expensive access in the future is very real. Things change, I know. But I still dread what it'll cost to replace what I'm shooting and the stores I now have. It'll be some time before that's a concern for me, but the eventuality is there. Couple that with a fixed income and, well it sucks... I did pick up everything I need to start casting over the past couple of Black Friday sales. As soon as I finish the long list of remodeling tasks my Missus has for me I'll start the casting. For now I'll remain focused in my practice sessions and maybe include more .22 LR as was already mentioned. I'm certainly working more dry fire than I was...so that's one positive to come out of this mess.

So many things when wrong. After looking at the map they hiked in a direction that appeared shorter to paved road but extremely rough terrain. I know making the right decision is never easy in the moment, but staying with the vehicle or hiking down the road they drive in would have been better options. 22miles even in extreme heat could be done. Wait for night fall and hike hard all night and you could be there before sunrise. They should have had more food and water as well as a mobile emergency device like Erik posted above. It’s easy to armchair quarterback this now but when you go to a place called “Death Valley” you HAVE to prepare to survive if the situation arises.

Load it all together. How much difference would it make? Sounds like picking fly chit out of pepper to me.