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I haven't had that issue, but I would certainly leave negative feedback for someone that didn't show up. That is about the only recourse we have. If they post without a price listed, they are probably new to TGO so a good indication to not get your hopes up too much. It is unfortunately a part of the current situation. On the other side, I have dealt with some new guys that have been great. I feel it is important we don't lump them all in to one group, but certainly we need to hold all to our standards (at least when selling ).

Been here less than a year. Post when I feel like I should. Try to stay out of the dog house with other members. I have only made on purchase from another member and had no issues whatsoever. In the few months I've been a member I have seen a change myself in the members both new and established. I believe it is a sign of the time we are in. Everyone is nervous and edgy, there is very little trust and zero tolerance. If I am buying I expect to go to where the seller is or chooses. If I am uncomfortable, I would just back out. Some seem to believe they should just not show. As for sales,,,I'm not selling. Every gun I have sold save one I want back. And even that one I believe could have been repaired. I made one deal and asked the man who is local if he would like to meet at the Sherriff's office or police dept. He told me to come to his house. I was a little nervous but went anyway. I met a very nice man, older than myself. he showed me his house his radio controlled airplanes, his HAM equipment. I met his dog, saw a room with many arms. we talked for about an hour and a half. One never knows. mutual respect needs to be restored or society is doomed.

I believe someone was held to account?

I do not think the TGO is changing. But I am a little wary of a new member with zero posts and zero feedback. However, there was a time that we all were in that boat.

I’ve met some fine people trading here that I never would have met otherwise.

Permitless carry has some limitations that enhanced HCP doesn't have. Enhanced HCP has reciprocity with many other states in case you travel. Don't think your prior training other than military will count.

You buy from me, you come to me, or we can meet somewhere at my convenience. I will do the same when buying from you. I usually go into a deal expecting the other party to not show up. I'm not wasting a lot of time and gas chasing rainbows.

yea I agree, like I said just venting a little. I'm not going to travel anywhere for anyone that hasnt been here for at least a year anymore. I guess anything I sell from here on out will have that stipulation.

I too feel that the world has gone nuts. Very comforting to have a place like this where we can commiserate and share our thoughts. Just think, soon they'll try to outlaw that, too. I have found that 'speaking with my wallet' to be effective at making me feel better. I haven't gone into that place since they started their shenanigans with gun sales. Never will, either. Hope to see you in bankruptcy! Yelling at the manager is pointless with big corporations like that. They don't have a choice in what the policy is, and failure to enforce could = losing their job. I will politely inform the salaried employee why I am leaving without purchasing the product, and leave it at that. "Amazon makes another sale!" I'll mention on my way out the door.

I met a guy last week that was excited because he bought 1000 rounds of 9mm for $750... As long as people continue to pay those prices we're going to be stuck in this situation a while.

Up until the most recent "scare" I have never had an issue with anyone doing what they say they are going to do on TGO. Recently I have had a no show (guy is gone from TGO apparently), and an issue where someone has offered up a gun I was looking for then broke off communication completely when I asked for a price. I guess its the times now. I was raised to do what I said I was going to do when I said I was going to do it. I have passed up higher offers on guns and accessories after I had verbally committed to a deal with another person, even on Armslist. Its the right thing to do. Sorry just venting a little.

I went to the Rivergate Academy this morning, went to get a couple of accessories for my new pellet grill. While shopping I picked up an Otis Gun Cleaning Kit for my 9mm, I get in line and some poor fellow was trying to return something he bought. Well he was told that if he didn't have his receipt they were only going to give him a refund of half of what the item cost it was $30 total and they were only going to refund him $15.99, now to my check out experience. After he told them to shove it I go to check out, now I've been in line for 15minutes waiting on them to decide if they were going to refund his money, the check out lady starts to ring me up gets to the Otis Cleaning Kit and asks for my ID to buy it, well I lost it I asked her what she said cause I wasn't sure why she asked me for my ID. Well I'm probably not allowed back in there after I gave the manager a piece of my mind on how stupid it is to ask for ID when buying a gun cleaning kit. Oh well I won't shop there or any of their stores ever again.

Ran about 100-125 assorted thru mine last week as well. Assorted brands. Mostly crap stuff and some WWB. Ate them all and asked for more. I seriously like this pistol...PC model, 4" non-ported, no safety. Keeper!

I was a new member once. I bet you were too. I’ve had just as good od luck trading with new members as established members.

Yes, I neglected to cover that. A good belt as well as a good holster are non negotiable!

I'm well on the chubby side and carry a P365 in an Alien Gear IWB holster at 4 o'clock. It's so comfortable that I never really feel it there. IMHO if you're going to carry, then carry. The reality is that you won't get to choose when (hopefully and likely never) you need to have it. Better to be looking at it than looking for it. The other obvious piece is regular training and drills with your setup so you can draw from different positions and engage targets in different directions.

Midway is no friend to gun enthusiasts. They have taken part in price gouging for ammo and components. $90+ dollars per 1000 primers when they had some in stock last month. That was before the hazmat shipping fees. You gouge on prices because of perceived shortages and you have lost my business.

On the brighter side, I'm sure that sales at the alternative "dry fire practice gadgets" companies is healthily in the black. That's also probably a safer intro to gun-handling and shooting mechanics for the new shooters, providing that they enlist experienced tutelage.

When selling here, I've experienced more "looks like they just created an account for the Classifieds" contacts than in the past. Sign o' the times I guess. While I can't blame them, neither do I want to deal with a complete unknown. So I'm much more picky on communications permissions. As for FTF dealings, I always make sure that we exchange phone numbers before the public meetup and I confirm that meetup via text before I get on the road. So far so good.

Ding, Ding, Ding we have a winner!!! Here is your answer Links2k

What is sad is we "the People" have tolerated it for so long.

She lost me when she started up with the whole "systemic racism", there is no credible evidence that this is the case, at least in how they portray it. Yes, there are a bunch of examples of racism, but to say it's "systemic" means we have policies in place that purposefully discriminate because of race. In fact, I'd argue that it is the opposite.

Life in section 8 is very different than in your regular neighborhoods, I grew up with friends and acquaintances in many a "jets" and lived right across the street from one. The problem is that when you get that many low income people all grouped up together, of any race as my peeps are Hispanic, you get crime and an us against them mentality. The government has tried to scatter those communities, but by then it has become a way of life for them and the crime spreads instead of stopping. The solution is to try and instill the values and work ethic required to succeed, but like others have said, it is something that needs to come from within, but the gov has worked hard at making them dependent on them and breaking up family units so there is nobody there to instill those values.

That's for sure, I never thought I would live long enough to see what's happening in this country. It's ridiculous what this day in age has come to, you need three different bathrooms so you don't offend anyone, then if you say anything about it or say anything else about anything in general, they want to stone you for it. Even going to Kroger's for groceries is a an adventure for me, it's hell getting old I guess this Cancer diagnosis I got has made me just sit back and take a good hard look at life, and I have to say it's unbelievable how some people just get on my last nerve.

Midway is your friend. Also I'd go out of my way to contact corporate. Be sure to call and get the name of the manager also. You may as well have some fun with this.

If that's their policy, I won't patronage their stores even if they had buy 1000rnds get 500 free. I'm old and cranky, just about had enough of the stupidity.

I get your frustration but there is a reason they say not to shoot the messenger. Check out lady, and even the store manager probably have zero decision making ability on that one. I'm sure that's a corporate policy.

Yep! What Cheaper Than Dirt did to me in 2007 was straight out of a prison shower scene. I haven’t been without a surplus of supplies since.

I've got good news and bad news: The good news is, we're not of this dying world and it's not meant to be our home. We're just passing through. The bad news is that we're still called to be salt and light to it so we have to make a go of it while we're here. Any time some Leftist tells the world how much they hate me and my Christian brothers and sisters, I just smile and remember that Jesus said that they would and that they hated Him first. That tells me we're on the right path even if it's getting darker around us and the path sometimes harder to see.

Pics please, lol!

It's interesting that you need to show an ID to purchase a gun cleaning kit, yet many States don't require an ID to vote. It's a sad commentary on the status of our society.

We are a out to see some serious inflation. Just look at gasoline and lumber. Other products will soon follow.

My aim is terrible. There’s no worry about hitting a target that small.

Carrying behind the 3/9 line can often lead to printing when bending over. Along with that, small of back is the one position I would recommend be avoided at all costs. Besides danger to back if one end up falling backwards, it requires such an awkward reach it’s just not a viable location for defensive carry.

No one is forcing anyone to buy anything. Do what makes you feel good...or don't.. That's ok. To each his own. If a brand spanking new guy comes to market with a gun I want at a fair price, I will at least inquire. You can tell most times if they are trouble or not just by the way they respond to questions.

Well, that's awkward.

Edited- I was wrong. Apparently they do not have metal detectors.

I didn't yell at the manager, we had a discussion and I decided right there and then I won't be back ever. 10-Ring that's your choice if you want to show your ID for anything they sell there, and your right there's more important things to worry about, but I'll spend my gun fund money as I see fit and it won't be at Academy Sports they can go pound sand.

U.S. Rifle M1903, also known as a Springfield.

It really is sad what is happening to our country. Ive noticed that it’s really starting to make me cynical and sometimes invidious. I generally don’t care (and sometimes view it as necessary) if I offend these “modern” people that are trying to change our way of life.

Thanks for the input. Pretty much what I thought, but figured I should ask to be sure. My friend will be a good conservative addition to the state. He is even getting rid of some of his NYS compliant guns before moving to make room in his safes for after he gets down to a free state.

Ehhhhh, not so much. The idea of using government power to engage in guild protection actions and having any part in determining who is and isn’t a “legitimate” journalist sound a cure far scarier than the disease.

You might enjoy this... https://www.knoxnews.com/story/opinion/2021/04/12/how-to-support-journalism-fight-against-misinformation-civility-tennessee/7198043002/

What is sad is the fact this video is factually correct for the most part.

LOL! One day my son and I had sanded and were repainting a truck bumper. He was 17 at the time. As we ran out, I sent him to TSC for another spray can. He got ID’ed although everyone in the store knew him. Luckily, the guy behind him bought it for him. There are definite upsides to large cooperations. There are also offsetting downsides. I’ve recently decided to shop local as often as I can.

First, you have to honestly come to grips with why this happens in some communities and not others. Second, you have to correct the differences between these two communities. Until people get fed up and are willing to do this, nothing will change.

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It's Reddit. That pretty much sums it up ...

Facts ? we don't need no stinkin facts !

To answer the last question first. I do firmly believe that Jesus Christ will return before I die!! I would prefer to have no political parties. I think they are the problem. I would like to be able to choose from among several candidates for president or other positions based upon their competence, love of this country and leadership skills. That might be a step in the right direction, if we had an honest media. I don't want the media's slant, all I want is the news in a truthful manner. Quite alot to ask for huh??