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This is my range, known as Magaland. It’s in Dekalb County near Center Hill Lake. It’s only 5 acres, but it’s mine, it’s paid for, and it’s fun

I haven't found that to be the case but I've done literally thousands and thousands of draw and presentations with the dot on the various platforms that I own. Proprioception plays a huge role in being a fast and accurate shooter with any gun, but especially a handgun and double especially (is that a thing?) a handgun with a dot optic. Here's the thing about iron sights that people often fail to recognize when they make statements about them being faster to acquire than a red dot: Iron sights mask problems with presentation. Most people use them to "steer" the gun on target. Period. End of story. Watch other people shoot at the range. Video yourself or at least be very observant, honest and "in the moment". Do it from a draw or at least a low ready. I bet you'll notice that your eyes flick from the target to the front sight and then to the back sight as you rock the gun into a position level with the target. Your eyes may flick back and forth quickly between target, front sight and rear sight several times through the course of presenting it, lining it up, and pulling the trigger. It happens very fast and typically subconsciously, and it eats up "clock cycles" (milliseconds or maybe even a full second or two). A person who has honed their proprioception -- their ability to innately know where the ends of their extremities are during the full range of their motion -- with a gun in hand to be able to efficiently and accurately match hand motion to eye location can typically outrun a person who's brain is occupied with the task of steering the gun on target and then fine-tuning their alignment. Iron sights have three planes of focus: Target, Front Sight, Rear Sight. Dot optics have one plane of focus: Target People who are fast with irons in close distances are generally using a target-focused (single plane) approach because required accuracy at that distance is relevant to the task. They shift back to three planes of focus for better accuracy, especially at further distances. A dot shooter shouldn't do that and a good dot shooter won't. Their eyes should be focused crisply on the target and the dot simply appears on the target as they bring the gun to bear, using proprioception to get it there. It's the exact same aiming technique that we humans have been using since we picked up a sharp stick [spear] and threw it at another human or an animal. Spears don't come with iron sights. We look at the target, not at the spear, and we lob that sucker with accuracy. Sharp Stick, meet Red Dot. Anyway, about the whole red dot optic at night thing... it's literally a GLOWING illuminated projection inside of a small box. I see that a hell of a lot faster in the dark than I do a small Tritium lamp or three.

I'll claim tagging this as "Tanker's Revenge" nearly 7 years ago. One of the MODs later added to the title. Might be the only Forever & Forever thing I'll do on the internet..., now that all my Tiny Pic stuff is gone!

There were a lot of old members I had forgot about in that thread.

New in box from old stock as they have been out of production since 2019. Will join the family of P229's in 9mm, and 40 S&W/357SIG....now the wait begins as it is coming thru FedEx out of Las Vegas and they are backed way up with the winter storm from last week thru their Memphis hub. Will post some pick when I finally receive it...... Now to find some 10 round magazines.....have read that the 14 rounders are a bit less than reliable and I don't need it to stick out below the mag well like that....

A while back David purged a bunch of long dormant accounts from the database. Those are the posts that remain.

Biden did it to honor the 500,000 dead from covid.

That makes me lol now just as it did then.

I think if I still had rear night sights on my P365XL it might make acquiring the dot in the small window in the dark easier. I can see the front sight in the dark, but with nothing to line it up with, and with no visual of the window, it is tricky. A lot of dry fire practice would probably help with the muscle memory.

Next time they call back please send them my way. I'll gladly take the shot. I've yet to see any data showing the shot to be more dangerous that Covid.

Young eyes or old eyes, it takes a lot of dry fire practice to reliably get that red dot in your field of view on presentation. And, you've got to get that squared away before you consider moving to trusting it for EDC. But, what it actually highlights for most people is the training scars that they've acquired through years of maybe less than ideal practice. So, going through the dry fire process a lot will actually be working to correct some of those old scars with new, better ones. They're worth putting the time into. Watching your hits go reliably out from where you were comfortable before is pretty cool.

Looking at this situation from my side of the fence, I see the ammo mfgs. are wanting to make the ammo today and put it on the truck either today or first thing in the morning. They do not want to warehouse 1 case more than they can sell the next day. I understand a part of that, but do they ever look at the trending data, before an election the buyers get antsy and will purchase more than usual. That goes for completed ammo and reloading components. Now I may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I think I would have started slowly building stockpiles of both the loaded ammo and the reloading components. But what do I know?? BTW I did.

Shout out to Capbyrd.....guess i need to clarify for my slang or ''generalizing'' about the SBR i bought and anyone else who i gave cause for confusion lol. I have the stabilizing brace so obviously its a pistol not a SBR. Just my household referencing (as the saying goes) to ''keep it simple stupid'' Sorry for the head scratcher! Kind of like an old ford galaxie and a ford 500xl.....generally kind of the same but they're not lol. Thanks Darrell for the kind words! It's truly appreciated and likewise for your service. True point about straw purchases. ''Letting her buy it'' wasn't meaning ''for me.'' I was just abbreviating the fact that i would've cancelled the purchase/layaway, the gun would go back into inventory and then she could make a purchase of her own and keep it for herself. It is a fine line one of which i wouldn't cross. Thanks for looking out tho! Be safe everyone.

I've been contacted by Vanderbilt twice to schedule an appointment to get the vaccine, but I've declined. I'll take my chances with vitamin D instead. A year or so from now when we have some data on the long term effects of the shot, I'll reconsider it. Best of luck to all taking it.

Trying really hard to respond in a way that isn't snarky. People on this very forum celebrated when RBG and McCain died. Both sides are nasty these days.

A buddy from my Army days runs a gunsmithing shop in Central Texas and did his magic on my late Grandfather's ole Colt he use to slip in his pocket coon hunting. I think it turned out great.

So my new AR-15 arrived (finally) after being lost in the FedEx package backlog from the winter storms. It is a left handed build with a Stag Arms upper and a PSA lower. Only iron sights at the moment. Trying to decide on a reddot or other optic. I can’t wait to get to the range.

Look fer yourself! I certainly did not know this. Wow!

IF the TWRA approves night hunting for coyotes, would you buy a night vision scope? I’d like to buy one but they cost more than any firearm I own. I’d probably be putting the NVS on a 300 dollar gun. Something about that just sucks ya know? LOL

About 7-8 years ago my Springfield 1911A1 developed a crack in the lower barrel lug. This is my IDPA gun and at the time had had an estimated 30,000+ rounds of hardball through it. Springfield paid shipping both ways and IIRC the gun was fixed and back to me in 8 days. I've also contacted them about small things for used guns I've bought. Such as a missing screw or the take down tool for my Ultra-Compact. Every time they sent what I needed at no charge and it arrived within just a few days. Springfield has some of the best customer service of any gun company. No worries there.

Reading back through this thread from about a year ago and came upon this post of mine. Wouldn’t we all love to pay $0.25 to $0.29 per round for 9mm. The $0.18 per round I paid for PMC this time last year seems like a dream.

Yes, on the case. I've never found a reason to put a lock on a gun. Thanks for your info

Thanks!

It’s not necessary to use a TSA lock on a gun case. I didn’t use one last time I flew and won’t use one. Outer luggage yes, but not the gun case.

I have an RMR type 2 on the way for a Beretta APX RDO. Will report back. As far as use, I like the concept of where the dot is, the bullet goes. It should decrease the amount of time I need to make accurate shots at 15 yards + and more speed at closer ranges.

Kinda if you like it in mini form

BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT Kind of been done be foe

First page on DDG as well, but at the bottom of the first page.

Thanks! That's only about 20 mins from my office...once we are allowed back in the office.

For me, the trick to get the dot to present reliably is to squeeze with the pinky a small amount. This forces the middle and ring finger to tighten up the grip a bit and point correctly. If I'm going to be off, it's invariably the barrel is high. So the pinky trick pulls the barrel downward. At short ranges, I don't even look for the dot and just point shoot instead. Middle ranges I use the 32 MOA circle on the Holosun and save the 2 MOA dot for long range/precision shots.

They punted on voting on it yesterday and pushed it to next week.

I shot a dot-equipped Glock and a Walther extensively in USPSA for a year or so and found irons to be quicker inside 10 yards. Dots are the ticket for aging eyes, though.

I’ve recently been issued a Gen 5 17 and after discussion with a few coworkers I’ve found something that concerns me. Reloading from slide locked to the rear, a small percentage of the time of you slam a magazine in the slide lock disengages and the slide returns to battery. Not always, and it’s not a repeatable thing. I know in some of the older M&Ps this was a design feature but it was repeatable 100% of the time a magazine was firmly inserted. Does anyone have any experience or information regarding this? Design flaw? Weak spring on the slide lock mechanism? User error?

Yep. He got banned years ago and then this thread kept popping up again, and again, and again taking up a life of its own. IIRC Tanker really hated cops and used to post every single story about police misconduct he found. A good chunk of his posts disappeared in one of the Gen Politics purges. So somebody added the Tanker’s Revenge to the title and it’s still going. If I had to venture a guess it’s because “Tisas” is a very unique word so the search function works very well and always points to this one thread.

As others mentioned the scope is about 1/2-2/3 of that $350 if you flip it. You may actually turn a profit selling the rest for parts at the next gun show. As for Garand value for a shooter, I did drive down to Anniston and bought one of the refurb $650 Garands this last fall. Worth every single penny. New barrel, re-parkerized, new re-pro walnut stock set with CMP stamp. New-old stock sling, nice CMP case. Springfield with a Korea War era serial (having done a tour in Korea this kinda spoke to me). Looks like a brand new issue Garand. As I wanted something to shoot and take to the ocassional competition it was the perfect choice. Right at $1000 out the door with 2 cases of new manufacture M2 ball, some accesories and the documentation/fees, I cannot complain. So, if you are wanting a project, the $350 is fair, if you want a new-ish Garand to love on for many years, make the road trip down to Alabama. I am sure you convice others here to join in to split the gas costs.

Yes, he got the Ban Hammer.

I'm lost. Did someone add Tanker's Revenge to the title after the fact? Was he banned?

I 100% guarantee you that your slowness is due to inefficient presentation of the gun with the optic and that with some coaching you'll not only be better with the dot than you are with iron sights, but you'll be a better iron sights shooter too.

I have several guns (pistols and long guns) with red dots but none are home defense. I have fun with them shooting targets but I'm much slower getting on target. It is fun hitting the more distant targets, I have them zered in so if the dot is on the target it hits it. For speed I like open sights. If you go forward practice a lot.

Brownell's slides are a cheaper alternative.

Welcome to TGO and East TN. I'm even further East so my FFL is to far from you. Lots of Knoxville members here so hopefully one will have a suggestion.

Welcome to TGO. Think hard about being an absentee landlord from 2000 miles away. Plus the real estate taxes out there and the capital gains tax you will have to pay when you do sell if you don't take advantage of the breaks for just selling and buying a different primary residence. Might want to take advantage of the sellers bubble now since you will be buying into the bubble. You will love living in a free state.

@leroy I have an ATEI worked Glock 17... shot it today at Point Blank Knoxville as a matter of fact. It's taken, and still takes, a lot of dry fire and consistency of motion to really gain benefit from it, imho. But it sure helps with these aging eyes. You are welcome to try it if you'd like and see what you think. My time is kinda tight right now, but PM me and we'll see what's what.

Make sure you rent a pistol with a red dot sight so you can try them out first. I personally don't like them. But if I were to get one I'd go with a pistol milled out from the factory. I'd stay away from aftermarket milling places. Stick with Factory and you cant go wrong.

Here's hoping the TFA experience for some of you is a good one. A while back I chipped in a few duckets and started getting emails from their mailing list about other groups for things like rallies to oppose Obamacare. Left a sour taste in my mouth about what was supposed to be a single issue group sharing their resources to other causes, and how small the tent is for center left folks like myself who want gun rights, but not necessarily the rest of the conservative agenda attached to my name.

As often opined from various sources early on, there remains a good chance that it will require a yearly vaccine like the one for flu, formulated for the likeliest strains for each year. Even if so, lots of questions currently pend, such as the relative lethality of Covid compared with influenza, whether it can be contained at roughly the same level as influenza, etc. One big diff right off the bat was that Covid spread didn't seem much fazed by seasonal change, unlike influenza. And of course, there's always the chance a prevalent strain may mutate into something much more (or less) lethal than what we've seen. Or change so that people of all ages face roughly the same risks as we geezers. Now that would likely be the game changer. - OS

I keep reading the stories of new strains that are appearing on a seemingly daily basis that are believed to be either resistant to the vaccine or are not showing up on the tests. I think folks should really start preparing themselves mentally for this never going away.

Not apples to apples - but here in Nashville my wife got her first shot on Sunday through Vanderbilt Health. From the time she got out of the car to the time she got back in the car was just over 21 minutes.

What does it tell you when a lot of health care workers say they will not take the vaccine?