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Read a really interesting article on zerohedge yesterday talking about the cdc guidelines changing re: PCR testing. You may recall a couple months ago there was discussion about the test being used to diagnose, and its methodology being susceptible to false positive results? The CDC at the time suggested higher cycle counts to the test, despite the increasing odds of false positives. For those unfamiliar, the Dr. that INVENTED THE TEST suggested cycle counts beyond 35 were pointless, as it all but guaranteed a positive test. The CDC recommended labs use 35-40 cycles. BOOM, cases have been skyrocketting, haven't they? This week the CDC changed guidance, suggested 25 cycles would be better. Right when the vaccine comes out and starts being distributed. They move the goalposts. Ain't that convenient? Now I don't want y'all to start calling me Nastrodamus, but who wants to wager me 20 bucks we're going to see all kinds of news articles correlating a drop in positive tests with the new vax being distributed? Any takers? https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/who-finally-admits-pcr-tests-create-false-positives RTWT. The mask mandates and all the other rights-trampelling edicts coming from the government aren't working. Their own statistics prove it. Yet they're doubling down even harder, aren't they? Folks, this is why I think the response to this virus is a scam. I don't mean to single out @Grayfox54 by quoting him, but if you can't tell you're being played, I got some ocean front property in Kansas I want to talk to you about.

Agreement on that. Masking to reduce spread depends largely on a shared sense of altruism -- which is not a primary ethos in most modern homo sapiens societies. - OS

I fully understand that and also know it doesn’t mean a whole lot. The local sheriff not abiding by federal mandates is not going to stop the feds from coming in and doing as they please. It is also noteworthy that a huge percentage of this country lives under the purview of unelected, appointed police chiefs who serve at the pleasure of the local mayor and city council.

VERY, VERY sadly I have to agree with what you said. I don't want to, but the average dem, young and old, seems only to parrot what they hear from their "gods." These people are hearing exactly what's being told to them...they just can't seem to understand what it means. What will happen to them and to the nation as whole. I'm very much a simpleton in the education and life experience areas, but I can see and hear what is plainly said to the nation. It does not foretell of wine and roses for us. In fact, more likely bread and water for the non-political elites and the un-connected.

Biden’s dementia riddled brain don’t care what gun owners think. But then no Democrat mind in power does. They hate two things vehemently. Guns and the Bible. Obama showed us that in his “they cling to their guns and Bible “ rant and the Democrats show us in their actions and silence anytime Christian are attacked, or not allowed to go to church. But Biden? The man has dementia like I said. 30 years ago he would not have been allowed to run. Now he’s gonna have the famous “Nuclear Codes”? Amazing. Besides, Soros is the Democrat demigod and runs the show. After stealing Georgia senate races, the gun control hammer is going to fall. And like Schumer said, “then we’re going to fundamentally change America.” The words Fundamental Change should scare the hell out of every American. Strangely, I don’t see that happening. Maybe they just don’t realize what it means, or just don’t care. Like I said. Strange, very strange.

What stinks is that I don't want to shoot the ammo I do have. I've only been once in 2020. I'm in conservation mode for now.

I mean we all saw the video of the old woman getting tackled during Katrina right?

Right. The point is many do not understand the difference between PD and Sheriff deputies. They are all cops but have very different bosses and in many cases, agendas. The sheriff has great leeway in saying “I will not comply”, the chief of police does not. Deputies and PD officers may or may not depending on how they want their lives to go.

I'm not disputing that. I wanted to stress the point local PD won't be waiting for orders from the fed go kick in doors of their friends and neighbors. Many here and abroad think all sheriffs dept everywhere are just as excited as the antigunners to disarm the gun owners.

Lets be realistic. Whether someone agrees with it or not; your local Police or County Sherriff has zero ability to protect anyone from Federal agents of the ATF. That’s just a fact. Sure they can tell their Officers to not arrest anyone on weapons charges, but that doesn’t help when its not their Officers doing the cuffing and stuffing. Never underestimate the enemy. An Officer, Deputy, Chief or Sherriff may have a different opinion when they are facing Federal charges or facing losing their jobs.

I'm in a 2a sanctuary as well as a county where the sheriff's dept released a statement in April before the first mandate stating they would NOT enforce any mandate that trampled their citizens rights or personal freedoms.

Going back to your earlier point, many sheriffs in many counties across the country have publically said they would NOT be a part of enforcing gun confiscation nor any un-constitutional laws illegally passed and actually many states, mostly conservative ones, have passed 2nd amendment sanctuary laws. I think the ATF will be the enforcing agency to abolish gun rights if it gets that far and confiscation on the federal level. The ATF and defunding police is not even remotely the same thing.

I'm still shooting, but WAY less than I want to. I reload and cast and I'm not exactly afeared of running out of ammo, but I'm worried about what the future is going to bring, especially if the dems win the two GA seats. I'm dipping down into my normal "buffer" of primers, which I don't like a bit.

They are not hiding their intentions. That’s what so strange to me. It kinda makes me think of that movie Left Behind. It’s like these people aren’t hearing what I’m hearing.....

I'd have to say that you can't fix stupid. That and a lack of responsibility. And some folks think if they take precautions it shows weakness. Unfortunately you can't just wish this virus away.

While I have faith in Man kind, I do not have that much trust.

That's the way I feel. If I find an ad with what I want with a good price and close I'll jump on it. Earlier in the week I found 3 boxes of 38spl 137 gr FMJ for $70, $23.34 per box, 0.934 per round. It's hard to reload for less than 0.10 each unless you cast. I asked what else he had to sell. 1,000 rds of 308/7.62X51 for 0.80 each. 200 308 and 800 7.62X51, would like to sell it as a whole or split the 2. I found buyers for both.

What we're seeing now is the result of Thanksgiving. Christmas and New Years are almost upon us. I wouldn't be at all surprised if most of this country, including us, was back in total lock down around mid-January.

haha... maybe because it is not a mustang. Does anyone know why they had an obsession to name it the "mustang"? Bring back another retired model name - or come up with something new. It is probably a great product. I would probably consider purchasing Ford's new 4-door electric sports sedan, but I wouldn't buy a "mustang" that has absolutely nothing to do with the lineage or name of the Ford mustang.

I'm a bit conflicted on this personally. It seems even the states with fairly strict COVID restrictions are still seeing huge increases in new cases. From a policy standpoint, what should he do? I've just not seen proof more restrictions would work. You can pass a mask mandate but I don't see that doing much good unless it's enforced. We have a mask mandate here in Knoxville and I'd say only 60% of people are wearing one, let alone wearing one correctly.

Alton Brown...woohoo

I pretty much agree with what you wrote. I think that the political forum should be kept for those who wish to participate. I stay out of it by my choice and I like it that way. What bothers the crap out of me is when certain members want to inject their political comments into other topics. The latest example is in the SARS-COVID thread. If a member wants to repeatedly bash the president for real or imagined affronts to their delicate senses then do it in the political forum where it belongs. I don't want to see it any more than I would want to see a naked 100-year old.

Feeling better this evening

That’s an unfilled space in the market where I expect they’ll see some success. It’s been a while since we’ve seen a truck the size of the older T100s or Rangers. Not everyone needs or wants a bigger truck - my mom would by an old Ranger-sized truck in a heartbeat.

Don't mess with cap gun girl.

"Large" is a relative term. The 3 ply masks do not allow nearly the same degree of passage of emissions as does say, a common bandana. Many, if not most all, of the same size droplets that would penetrate through said bandana would not make it through a 3 ply surgical mask. Certainly, some virus is released into the air by just the act of breathing, and those escape from around any non totally sealed covering, but they have short ranges and longevity and concentration. Hence the self distancing part of the equation. The idea is to hedge all the bets you can, there is no one magic bullet short of living in some sort of bubble. - OS

It’s on my To Buy List!

IMO when it gets to the level you're describing its us and them. You're on one side or the other. If you're OK with them coming in and doing as they please any old time then god speed and good luck to ya.

Keep in mind the 2A sanctuary for most of the counties around here was passed over a year ago. So this wasn't a knee jerk reaction to jo&ho, rona, or gvt overreach by unchecked AholesTooFar.

Who's asking the police or sheriff to protect them? Most know protection is a personal responsibility, police have unfortunately been made into clean up crews & revenue collectors. If an officer, chief, or sheriff condones trampling a persons Constitutional rights to protect their job they are worthless & shouldn't be in law enforcement in the first place.

I think the Bronco has a huge potential of being very competitive in the 4x4 market despite Covid19 setbacks. There will be a lot of options/accessories down the road and should be just as customizable as Jeeps etc. One of the available accessories show cased is a slide out table in the back. Now those are cool. I think some other companies like Toyota offer them. Transferring reservations to orders happens from mid Jan into March so have some time to make a hard decision. Would like to see some independent reviews. Updated build and price scheduled to be out by order time. Still many unanswered questions. My small town dealership has 9 reservations. At least one is with a dealership employee. Would be interesting to know how may of the 190,000 Bronco reservations are actually held by people connected with the dealerships. Also will be interesting to see how many reservations actually are converted into orders.

No, but getting rid of a corrupt 3 letter is a start. I guess each will have to choose their response to those who would trample on their God given rights.

Gun grab sparks 'Defund ATF' movement (washingtonexaminer.com)

That is a great show, especially the early seasons.

I believe raw Ivermectin (per se) is not available, it is in a cream or topical suspension for delivery (aka you rub it in your cows). Back in the day I bought it in tablet form, and dissolved it in water. The labelled application was to add it (diluted) account your barnyard animals water source, and it would protect them from parasites. It attacks the bugs nervous system (forget exactly how). There were no restrictions on giving it to animals just prior to slaughter (usually an indicator), and while not condoned by the packagaing, it pretty much said its fine if you get it on your hands or in your eyes. I was using the product to treat a parasite on saltwater corals, it was sold as a pig de-wormer... I would see if I knew a veterinarian, or if I had a relationship with my dogs vet, I'd ask there, as you probably want legit medical advice before you start taking something.. that being said, yeah, get the cow cream, do the math on your weight, go to town. Don't think it'll kill you either way.

Sigs name should have never been on that abomination. Just like the Walther/Umarex relationship that hooked a huge Walther fan like myself it left a bad taste in my mouth. It was a crap shoot to find a good one that didn't have some sort of issue. The last 22 Sig had its name on that was worth a damn was the Trailside which was/is a Hammerli. I'm a Ruger MK fan but have also heard good reports about the M&P 22 compact. And as someone else stated the old revolver is always a great beginner.

I had a CVT Mt. Hood picked out but my wife says no for some reason.

Marugers?

How appropriate and timely. Dovetails nicely with this bit of comedic commentary. *Lamguage warning*

It's been a few years back for me, but I acquired a Mosquito at a gun show. Sub 200 and was practically new. I found it to be very much a long term problem. FTF at least 2/3 times a mag. I stripped and cleaned it as best I could. No joy. Changed mags by buying a couple new ones. Same problem. I liked the look and feel of the pistol, but gave me too many problems. Sold it to young man at the next gun show I went to. Told him it was a headache, but he took it anyway. Granted that's been 6/7 years ago. They may have gotten better by now. Like Moped said...try the TX22. Or the Keltec P17 if you can find one.

Unless his wife answers the door holding a baby. Then she's the one most at risk..

I open my den door & go: "Yep...... that's a f#@&k load of guns!"

Here my Rossi m92 I mentioned earlier, that my dad engaged the reciever. I did replace the wood with Precision Gun Works wood. It's my kids favorite shooting gun, not to mention mine! It's as great as a tactical/shtf gun as it is a great wall hanger.

Honestly though, I have found out that a forum without an antagonist or two can get quite dull.

Wish folks would be just as angry about the 2nd getting stepped on as much as they complain about the lack of ammo.

The thought that they aren’t making ammunition or that they are storing it in secret warehouses is ridiculous. I constantly see people ask why they simply add more machines? Because they can’t justify the cost. When the latest “drama” in the firearms/ammo market is over, those machines would be sitting idle. I was reading the other day where part of Smith & Wesson was shut down due to employees with Covid. That takes a toll on production, because most of those jobs are skilled trades with specialized training. They can’t just go hire people off the street and have them hit the ground running. My wife works in the food industry. They usually are slow the first of the year and allow employees to take a bunch of time off if they want it. Not this year. They have been working overtime like crazy and it will continue for the foreseeable future. They too have been hit hard by Covid.

plenty of folks carry full size guns......dress around the gun.

We tried that like 12 years ago didn’t we?

Before long it will be "You dont need 10 bullets to kill a deer" as from the commie NY state governor. Then you wont need 6, no wait 3 bullets. Then only single shot firearms. Reload powder will be allowed but only a 1/4 pound on hand at a time, 10 primers, no lead at all. But at least Trump is out of office, RIGHT???