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Read a really interesting article on zerohedge yesterday talking about the cdc guidelines changing re: PCR testing. You may recall a couple months ago there was discussion about the test being used to diagnose, and its methodology being susceptible to false positive results? The CDC at the time suggested higher cycle counts to the test, despite the increasing odds of false positives. For those unfamiliar, the Dr. that INVENTED THE TEST suggested cycle counts beyond 35 were pointless, as it all but guaranteed a positive test. The CDC recommended labs use 35-40 cycles. BOOM, cases have been skyrocketting, haven't they? This week the CDC changed guidance, suggested 25 cycles would be better. Right when the vaccine comes out and starts being distributed. They move the goalposts. Ain't that convenient? Now I don't want y'all to start calling me Nastrodamus, but who wants to wager me 20 bucks we're going to see all kinds of news articles correlating a drop in positive tests with the new vax being distributed? Any takers? https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/who-finally-admits-pcr-tests-create-false-positives RTWT. The mask mandates and all the other rights-trampelling edicts coming from the government aren't working. Their own statistics prove it. Yet they're doubling down even harder, aren't they? Folks, this is why I think the response to this virus is a scam. I don't mean to single out @Grayfox54 by quoting him, but if you can't tell you're being played, I got some ocean front property in Kansas I want to talk to you about.

Agreement on that. Masking to reduce spread depends largely on a shared sense of altruism -- which is not a primary ethos in most modern homo sapiens societies. - OS

I fully understand that and also know it doesn’t mean a whole lot. The local sheriff not abiding by federal mandates is not going to stop the feds from coming in and doing as they please. It is also noteworthy that a huge percentage of this country lives under the purview of unelected, appointed police chiefs who serve at the pleasure of the local mayor and city council.

VERY, VERY sadly I have to agree with what you said. I don't want to, but the average dem, young and old, seems only to parrot what they hear from their "gods." These people are hearing exactly what's being told to them...they just can't seem to understand what it means. What will happen to them and to the nation as whole. I'm very much a simpleton in the education and life experience areas, but I can see and hear what is plainly said to the nation. It does not foretell of wine and roses for us. In fact, more likely bread and water for the non-political elites and the un-connected.

Biden’s dementia riddled brain don’t care what gun owners think. But then no Democrat mind in power does. They hate two things vehemently. Guns and the Bible. Obama showed us that in his “they cling to their guns and Bible “ rant and the Democrats show us in their actions and silence anytime Christian are attacked, or not allowed to go to church. But Biden? The man has dementia like I said. 30 years ago he would not have been allowed to run. Now he’s gonna have the famous “Nuclear Codes”? Amazing. Besides, Soros is the Democrat demigod and runs the show. After stealing Georgia senate races, the gun control hammer is going to fall. And like Schumer said, “then we’re going to fundamentally change America.” The words Fundamental Change should scare the hell out of every American. Strangely, I don’t see that happening. Maybe they just don’t realize what it means, or just don’t care. Like I said. Strange, very strange.

What stinks is that I don't want to shoot the ammo I do have. I've only been once in 2020. I'm in conservation mode for now.

I mean we all saw the video of the old woman getting tackled during Katrina right?

Right. The point is many do not understand the difference between PD and Sheriff deputies. They are all cops but have very different bosses and in many cases, agendas. The sheriff has great leeway in saying “I will not comply”, the chief of police does not. Deputies and PD officers may or may not depending on how they want their lives to go.

I'm not disputing that. I wanted to stress the point local PD won't be waiting for orders from the fed go kick in doors of their friends and neighbors. Many here and abroad think all sheriffs dept everywhere are just as excited as the antigunners to disarm the gun owners.

Lets be realistic. Whether someone agrees with it or not; your local Police or County Sherriff has zero ability to protect anyone from Federal agents of the ATF. That’s just a fact. Sure they can tell their Officers to not arrest anyone on weapons charges, but that doesn’t help when its not their Officers doing the cuffing and stuffing. Never underestimate the enemy. An Officer, Deputy, Chief or Sherriff may have a different opinion when they are facing Federal charges or facing losing their jobs.

I'm in a 2a sanctuary as well as a county where the sheriff's dept released a statement in April before the first mandate stating they would NOT enforce any mandate that trampled their citizens rights or personal freedoms.

Going back to your earlier point, many sheriffs in many counties across the country have publically said they would NOT be a part of enforcing gun confiscation nor any un-constitutional laws illegally passed and actually many states, mostly conservative ones, have passed 2nd amendment sanctuary laws. I think the ATF will be the enforcing agency to abolish gun rights if it gets that far and confiscation on the federal level. The ATF and defunding police is not even remotely the same thing.

I'm still shooting, but WAY less than I want to. I reload and cast and I'm not exactly afeared of running out of ammo, but I'm worried about what the future is going to bring, especially if the dems win the two GA seats. I'm dipping down into my normal "buffer" of primers, which I don't like a bit.

They are not hiding their intentions. That’s what so strange to me. It kinda makes me think of that movie Left Behind. It’s like these people aren’t hearing what I’m hearing.....

I'd have to say that you can't fix stupid. That and a lack of responsibility. And some folks think if they take precautions it shows weakness. Unfortunately you can't just wish this virus away.

While I have faith in Man kind, I do not have that much trust.

That's the way I feel. If I find an ad with what I want with a good price and close I'll jump on it. Earlier in the week I found 3 boxes of 38spl 137 gr FMJ for $70, $23.34 per box, 0.934 per round. It's hard to reload for less than 0.10 each unless you cast. I asked what else he had to sell. 1,000 rds of 308/7.62X51 for 0.80 each. 200 308 and 800 7.62X51, would like to sell it as a whole or split the 2. I found buyers for both.

What we're seeing now is the result of Thanksgiving. Christmas and New Years are almost upon us. I wouldn't be at all surprised if most of this country, including us, was back in total lock down around mid-January.

haha... maybe because it is not a mustang. Does anyone know why they had an obsession to name it the "mustang"? Bring back another retired model name - or come up with something new. It is probably a great product. I would probably consider purchasing Ford's new 4-door electric sports sedan, but I wouldn't buy a "mustang" that has absolutely nothing to do with the lineage or name of the Ford mustang.

I'm a bit conflicted on this personally. It seems even the states with fairly strict COVID restrictions are still seeing huge increases in new cases. From a policy standpoint, what should he do? I've just not seen proof more restrictions would work. You can pass a mask mandate but I don't see that doing much good unless it's enforced. We have a mask mandate here in Knoxville and I'd say only 60% of people are wearing one, let alone wearing one correctly.

Alton Brown...woohoo

I pretty much agree with what you wrote. I think that the political forum should be kept for those who wish to participate. I stay out of it by my choice and I like it that way. What bothers the crap out of me is when certain members want to inject their political comments into other topics. The latest example is in the SARS-COVID thread. If a member wants to repeatedly bash the president for real or imagined affronts to their delicate senses then do it in the political forum where it belongs. I don't want to see it any more than I would want to see a naked 100-year old.

Feeling better this evening

"Large" is a relative term. The 3 ply masks do not allow nearly the same degree of passage of emissions as does say, a common bandana. Many, if not most all, of the same size droplets that would penetrate through said bandana would not make it through a 3 ply surgical mask. Certainly, some virus is released into the air by just the act of breathing, and those escape from around any non totally sealed covering, but they have short ranges and longevity and concentration. Hence the self distancing part of the equation. The idea is to hedge all the bets you can, there is no one magic bullet short of living in some sort of bubble. - OS

Keep in mind the 2A sanctuary for most of the counties around here was passed over a year ago. So this wasn't a knee jerk reaction to jo&ho, rona, or gvt overreach by unchecked AholesTooFar.

Who's asking the police or sheriff to protect them? Most know protection is a personal responsibility, police have unfortunately been made into clean up crews & revenue collectors. If an officer, chief, or sheriff condones trampling a persons Constitutional rights to protect their job they are worthless & shouldn't be in law enforcement in the first place.

The filthy masks, bandanas, & various other face covering I see people wearing are akin to using paper towels to stop bullets. They're constantly pulling at them & putting their dirty hands near their eyes. If one is that scared of the kung flu, one should stay home & wait till tptb give them permission to venture out.

What are you talking about? Conservatives & Patriots have always thought the atf should be abolished. What's defending cops? Do you mean defund cops? That'll work out real well...

Far as I know, they still own the Pinto and Maverick names.

That is a great show, especially the early seasons.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-mask/art-20485449 Cloth and surgical masks are NOT going to keep you or me from catching the virus. M95 masks might if they are properly fitted and worn. What a cloth or surgical mask will do is to prevent a person already infected with the disease from transmitting quite as many disease-bearing particles in the air when that person sneezes, coughs, shouts, sings, etc. If you read the article linked above you'll note that the masks are recommended along with social distancing and other hygiene measures.

I believe raw Ivermectin (per se) is not available, it is in a cream or topical suspension for delivery (aka you rub it in your cows). Back in the day I bought it in tablet form, and dissolved it in water. The labelled application was to add it (diluted) account your barnyard animals water source, and it would protect them from parasites. It attacks the bugs nervous system (forget exactly how). There were no restrictions on giving it to animals just prior to slaughter (usually an indicator), and while not condoned by the packagaing, it pretty much said its fine if you get it on your hands or in your eyes. I was using the product to treat a parasite on saltwater corals, it was sold as a pig de-wormer... I would see if I knew a veterinarian, or if I had a relationship with my dogs vet, I'd ask there, as you probably want legit medical advice before you start taking something.. that being said, yeah, get the cow cream, do the math on your weight, go to town. Don't think it'll kill you either way.

Really bad reviews. I have a Walther P-22 and a Walther PPQ-22. Both are very reliable but my favorite is the PPQ.

This is so far over this old country boys head.

Its the old bait and switch. Tell the customer one price and then charge them much more. That is illegal. Then there's the question of cancelling existing orders just to raise the price on future orders to resell the same stock. If that ain't illegal, it sure aughta be.

How appropriate and timely. Dovetails nicely with this bit of comedic commentary. *Lamguage warning*

It's been a few years back for me, but I acquired a Mosquito at a gun show. Sub 200 and was practically new. I found it to be very much a long term problem. FTF at least 2/3 times a mag. I stripped and cleaned it as best I could. No joy. Changed mags by buying a couple new ones. Same problem. I liked the look and feel of the pistol, but gave me too many problems. Sold it to young man at the next gun show I went to. Told him it was a headache, but he took it anyway. Granted that's been 6/7 years ago. They may have gotten better by now. Like Moped said...try the TX22. Or the Keltec P17 if you can find one.

If the Sig appeals to you because of the size - they other competitor in that size at that price point is the Walther P22. The first generation of those pistols suffered from similar issues - but I hear the newer ones have addressed the issues pretty well. Personally, for .22LR pistols, I’m pretty far down the rabbit hole with customized Ruger Mark series pistols. When I introduce someone to shooting and bring out all my .22LR pistols - they almost always end up purchasing a Ruger for themselves. That said, were I looking for an off the shelf .22LR pistol that would be okay in small hands, I’d probably go with an M&P22 compact. With that, you’re picking up a full 6061 milled slide with the same ergonomics as its big brothers in the series. No .22LR pistol is 100% trust your life to it reliable - that’s just a function of the round. But the M&P is probably the most reliable in the class.

Check out the Taurus TX22! They get rave reviews! And they come with 16 round mags. Made in the USA too!

My sons and I met up at Sardis lower lake last Wednesday for some kayak crappie fishing. Paddled out to find 12 foot of water and dropped a jig to the bottom. Slow paddle backwards, let the line come up them fall straight down. As the jig was coming off the bottom that's when we would get a strike. We got our limits of 15 in 3 hours.

While I do find them intriguing, I have no reason to put that sort of money into a vehicle, unless it is an investment grade antique. I’ll wait for you guys to wear them out. Then I might pick one up.

Honestly though, I have found out that a forum without an antagonist or two can get quite dull.

One of the ways the democrats are attacking the 2nd Amendment is essentially making it a crime to protect yourself with a firearm without having the specific legislation in place to do so. We can look at Great Britain for a recent example of what can happen. Pass some sweeping gun control legislation and make it a crime to use a firearm for self defense. Then a Gov't is good to go. On a side note I think the case does show how an AR15 commands a certain level of respect. A M1A with a 20 round mag would have made a similar statement while a five shot revolver would not have. This self defense case IMO strongly shows that semi auto weapons are paramount for civilian personal defense use under the 2nd.

plenty of folks carry full size guns......dress around the gun.

Yeah I didn't really think I needed to qualify that but maybe so.... If you put a 16" upper on your SBR lower then you can take it out of state with no 5320.20 form. But you cannot also take the SBR upper along with you too. That would be what they refer to as "constructive possession" - assuming that because you have the sbr upper you are going to assemble the rifle with it. Now there are some murky legal waters in regards to that and Thompson Center won a case against ATF on that but the smart thing to do if travelling outside the state is to either file a 5320.20 form or put a 16" upper on it and leave the SBR upper at home.

Absolutely. But it is the end of his term. We are about to get exactly what you claim the American people voted for. As both parties have said “Elections have consequences”. But I’ve accepted it Erik. Exactly as I said when folks were whining about things Obama did prior to Trump being elected; Obama became irrelevant the day he left office and everything was on Trump. Your boy Joe is in control the day he takes office. What he does with the Economy, Jobs, Business, Covid and Guns is on him. If he does great things; I’ll be the first to admit it. I’ll hurry up and wait right here.

Maybe we should start cataloging the boat accident locations... lol

I'm not an attorney but I've been an NFA collector since 1994. An SBR by definition has barrel shorter than 16". If your receiver no longer has a shorter than 16" barrel on it then by definition it is not an SBR and is treated as a rifle not as a "short barrel rifle" as long as the longer barrel is on it. So if you wanted to take your "SBR registered" AR lower with a sub 16" barrel out of state you have to file an ATF Form 5320.20 . But if you take off the sub 16" barrel upper and install a 16" barrel upper it no longer is by definition an SBR and no Form 5320.20 is necessary. It is still listed in the registry as an SBR but the actual configuration is NOT an SBR so SBR rules do not apply as long as it does not have a barrel shorter than 16" on it. It is not the same as a machinegun where if it was "once a machine gun always a machine gun". So while you cannot do anything to a machine gun to change its status (other than destroy it) you can install a barrel longer than 16" on your SBR lower and it no longer meets the definition so travel without filing a form is OK. At least that is how I understand it.