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In the year 2000 the Dems demand a recount in Florida. Now it’s 2020 and the republicans are demanding recounts. If you asked me I think we need to let in Santa Claus, as he’s the only one good at making a list checking it twice.

Possibly. A couple of things that might stop that. Without Republicans defecting in the Senate, they can’t do it. Also, the remarks RBG made prior to her death against it may carry weight with some Democrats. Most Americans, including Democrats, don’t want their guns taken away and it might be political suicide for those that support it. But sure, it might happen. I think its more of making claims they know they can’t get done; just to be able to throw their hands up and say “we tried”. I suspect Biden (if God forbid) he gets elected may try to protect the Democrats by trying it though Executive order. I don’t think that will fly. But then, I would have never thought That Biden/Harris could be this close to a win in America. So my assumptions could clearly be flawed.

welcome aboard!

It takes events like what have been happening lately to make some aware just how vulnerable they can be.

In fairness I left out one category that deserves some sympathy. Newbies. Lousy time to be starting the path to gun ownership.

Capitalism. You really wouldn't want it any other way. Anyone not prepared at this point in time is either impoverished, ignorant, or lazy.

The cool thing about being prepared is that you can sit back and enjoy the show. We've seen this before, and we'll see it again.

A cameo appearance being put in by a DLB ( @Grand Torino) trench knife.

Soon, my friend....

For ammo storage, this works quite well ...

I’m ready for the end of the election.

Lost em all... Sorry!

Mmmm... vault room.

No reason at all not keep them in the same safe...but safes only get so big.

So true....and sad. I find myself trying to buy guns that probably won't be banned.

I am more concerned about what will happen to the 2A and private ownership of firearms if this goes to Biden than I am about civil unrest. Unless you live somewhere that riots and protests are likely to occur, common sense and avoidance will likely keep you away from that sort of action. But other than exercising civil disobedience and becoming a criminal (on paper), you aren't going to easily "avoid" the sort of anti-2A tyranny that Sniffy Joe and Al Qaeda Harris have officially stated that they will attempt to enact..

We ceded democracy to private political parties who utilize public infrastructure (primaries and general election) to conduct their internal business.

Primaries don’t work like that. They’re a closed system, and held at the discretion of the party. The Libertarian Party doesn’t even hold primaries. Partly because the taxpayers fund the primaries for the two major parties, and only for the two major parties. I would actually love to see ranked choice voting enacted for all elections, but the duopoly will never allow that to happen because it will break their hold on power.

The fact that a vote for any party not an R or a D in the general election is a lost vote (actually goes against the side closer to your side of issues) fails to register on some folks. I would love to get some libertarian folks into office, but the best time to vote for them is in the primaries, once you get to the general election, they just bleed off votes from the Dem or Repub and may cause them to lose the election. I feel that is what happened when Perot ran, he caused the loss of Bush to Clinton.

I hope he has a good exit strategy already in mind, because they'll probably run him out when they learn that he's got a brain.

Sadly, no. I’ve had some decent play money, but not $50k of play money. It does have a binary trigger installed. The poor man’s facsimile.

I operate under the assumption I am the least smart person when it comes that sort of scheming and that the government has an endless supply of twisted tyrants on hand who sit around and dream up an endless supply of new ways to trample my freedoms and liberties.

I started with the original Mantis a few years ago to improve the quality of my pistol practice sessions, the feedback on every shot is helpful for understanding the consistency required to become a better shooter. Over the last 2 years my avg Mantis score has improved by 20 percent and my shots in the 10 ring have increased. I use the dry fire with a target set up in my garage and for live fire every time I go to the range. As ammo prices have increased I use the mantis on a glock 44 (22lr) and the mantis feedback is the same. When the mantis x10 was introduced I decided to try it and love some of the new features and the ability to easily move between guns while at the range. I have talked to the Mantis folks a few times and they have been very responsive and helpful. stRay I still have the original mantis if you would like to try it out before you buy one.

Its circular. You have first timers and you have speculators. The regular user is crushed by both, but probably more so the speculators. Speculators start drying up sources as demand from first timers rise. I have empathy for first timers, I have much annoyance from speculators. The good part is watching the speculators trying to unload after the tide subsides. Main reason I want the tide to end is so I can start negotiating with speculators on their cache of drawer parts they overpaid for hoping to turn a huge profit. Those are the best most pleasing deals!

In general terms, I do not expect the current retail climate to change much at all for the remainder of the year. The whole thing is rather complicated and multi-faceted. Ammunition: This is equal parts a supply issue, a demand issue and retailers taking advantage of the situation. Primers are in short supply, so there is already a constraint on availability at the component level. This naturally causes prices to increase at a wholesale level. Completed ammunition is increasingly in shorter supply, but I know for an absolute fact that you can still buy 9mm FMJ from the wholesale channel for around 22-cents per round because I recently brokered the sale of approximately 52,000 rounds of 9mm and 5.56 NATO ammunition for a small group of individuals. I could go on an absolute tear about this but I am going to refrain for now. Retailers who are charging exorbitant sums for 9mm FMJ should be taken note of and remembered when this settles. One caliber that I can attest to being much more expensive today than it was in February, at wholesale and retail pricing, is 300 Blackout. The price on that shiz is nuts. If you have it, I'd be sitting on it and not shooting it unless I had to right now. Black Rifle Parts: Whole, mass-produced AR-15 pattern rifles are still easy to come by thanks to the absolute glut of them that were produced over the last 10 years. Pricing on them hasn't changed a whole lot. Boutique rifles and component parts are a different story, and those go hand in hand anyway. I don't see this changing until after the election and maybe even beyond that. Supply needs to catch up to the demand. Manufacturers like Aero Precision, Bravo Company Machine, Rosco Manufacturing, Ballistic Advantage, Midwest Gun Works, etc. are all still releasing product albeit in small batches that get cleaned out almost immediately. You can thank social media for that. As soon as barrels, uppers, lowers, handguards, etc. hit these manufacturer's web stores or the web stores of the retail channel, it gets posted by the likes of MrGunsNGear on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, etc. or it makes the headlines on Reddit and major national forums. People are cleaning-out supply as soon as it hits. And while I guess that's nice if it means that there are more armed citizens exercising their Second Amendment rights than ever ( aka "a rising tide raises all ships") there is a pessimistic side of me that thinks there are a lot of parts that will never be used sitting in personal caches. I hope I am wrong. Handguns: You can still buy pretty much any handgun you want right now, but in some cases you may have to wait a few weeks to find the exact variation you are searching for. Also, this is legitimately the only time that I can remember wherein Glocks were seriously selling for MSRP. Nine or ten months ago, at the very most, you could buy a new Gen 5 Glock 19 for $525. These days you're probably going to pay closer to $600 and you might have to wait while your local retailer orders it for you from Lipseys, RSR, Sports South, etc. I blame this entirely on the number of people who are buying handguns to protect themselves for the first time ever because of the current political and social climate and social turmoil. I hope that those people (a.) get training, (b.) own them responsibly, and (c.) keep them beyond 2021 and become advocates for the 2A now that they understand why it matters. I am obviously glazing over other areas of the gun industry right now, but these are the things most people are noticing the effects of and maybe wondering what the hell is driving it all. The ammunition and shortage of AR parts are the things that annoy me the most, presently, for the reasons I mentioned.

Hey RTT, The “Music Biz” has sure been turned on it’s proverbial ear of late... Plenty of time for hobbies (or other lines of work in my case). As another newbie on here myself, it’s great to see the interactions; glad to be here with ya!! (old photo of me aiming at people in a different way...) Ray in Franklin

Trump and Barr both need to quit making threats they aren’t prepared to back-up; it shows they are weak. These places don’t need military action; they need their local Police to be uncuffed. Those who ordered them to stand down; need to be charged criminally.

I don't get myself worked up about this, because no matter who wins, they will let the dogs loose upon the rioters that continue their mess. The left knows they are nor immune to these ANTIFA/BLM rioters, and the ones in power will be the target. But, I am well stocked up with the required equipment for even the worst case scenario, and better yet, I'm willing to use it.

why didn’t I buy an SKS (or 2) back in 92-92 for $99 when they were all over the fun shows stupid stupid stupid.

Yea, but I don’t have anything shoots 7.62.......

https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/nov/01/does-joe-bidens-plan-tax-semi-automatic-firearms/ What Biden’s gun plan says Under Biden’s gun policy, Americans who own assault weapons or high-capacity magazines would have two options: sell them to the federal government through a voluntary buyback program or register them under the National Firearms Act.

Anther interesting thing that I heard on FOX this morning came from Alveda King (MLK's niece) in Georgia. She said that she witnessed a poll-worker telling people that they didn't have to sign their voter card. Of course, not signing the paper invalidates your vote. She didn't say whether it was being said to all voters, or just one party.

Good luck to you both. The safest alternative of course is to not own any and let big brother take care of you. Maybe invest in some knife retardant clothing

Relax, just think...we will finally know how many bodies it will take to high center an 18 wheeler