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I don't disagree with that at all. I disagree with it being prerequisite for a right.

This ^^^^ Historical context helps to understand application and understanding of a principle at a specific time. Principles transcend dynamic application. In other words, the reason the Constitution transcends time and culture is because the principles are "found to be self evident". What we wrestle with is the "application" of the principle in a changing culture not the principle. However, the leftists are attempting to remove the principle. That is the slippery slope with a cliff into the abyss at the end. Those on our side who can not apply transcendant principles/truth with changing culture are just as bad as those trying to remove the principle all together.

@E4 No More points out exactly why the argument for historical context for the constitution hasn't derailed the second amendment, but is dangerous to apply. If you apply historical context to the interpretation then you wind up saying free speech doesn't apply to platforms on then internet because there was no foreseeable way the founders could have predicted the impact of the internet from the 18th century. In fact you can derail the whole document by simply saying something exists now that modifies our experience of the world we live in so greatly that they would not have phrased the amendment that way with prior knowledge of future events. actually, come to think of it, if you could do that in general then most contracts could be voided that didn't specifically state they couldn't be voided by applying the insight from future events retroactively to say the whole thing should never have been written a certain way of the original drafters intent would have changed....etc

“We the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, with so little, for so long, we are now qualified to do anything, with nothing.”

Florida is a mixed bag. When we bought our house there in 2013 it was on par what what we would have paid in East TN. Property taxes were higher but not by a ton. Sales tax is lower. Overall I never felt like it was more expensive living in central FL than TN. Also Moomba Boats and Rubbermaid, where they make Sharpie permanent markers. For a small town it has a surprising amount of manufacturing and distribution. Altar'd State DC is there too.

While on the road in Alabama, I stopped in at Hoover Tactical... I had just started my research into the world of semi auto .308 rifles, so was just looking. Ended up with walking out with an HK91 When I saw it, I assumed it was a PTR91 or Century C308; both of which I've handled at Bud's and wasn't a fan. Salesman says, "it's a real one." "A real one what?" "Not a clone or kit, it's nice, here, check it out." I agonized over the decision and justified through, "they ain't making them anymore, they are desirable, it should appreciate, and I know a guy who would probably sell one of his damaged kidneys if I had to sell in a pinch." It's LNIB, except for some marring around the election port. Round count has to be low, there is still finish on the tip of the firing pin and breech face shows no wear. There is little noticeable wear on the metal on metal bits that slide. Came with the test fire docs, dated 10 Nov 1980, unused cleaning kit, manual, shell deflector (? - it's the part in the pic below the stock) sling and 6 mags. Spent way more than I had budgeted, I thought a Springfield M1A variant was iny future. I think I need a bipod.

The hurrier I go the behinder I get. https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/259377-the-hurrier-i-go-the-behinder-i-get

I believe the cups of rifle primers are thicker to lessen the chances of puncture.

You can go ludicrous all you want, but a right is not dependent upon training...period.

@chances R Because this method of discussion is not the best for conveying ideas clearly, let me put this bluntly: American citizens have the right to protect ourselves from ANYONE who wishes us harm whether that be from a foreign army, our own government, or a criminal, and that right is not contingent upon receiving training from anyone. Is that reality? No, because we've compromised that with either ignorance or acceptance for whatever reason that sounds good to us. Although I haven't researched and compiled the numbers, I'd bet that the average driver gets far more safety training than the average gun owner, yet more people are killed with automobiles than guns, (not including suicide like the liberals like to add).

So E4, because I am a trainer my opinion has no merit. I don’t train gun owners to make a living. It is an enjoyable hobby because I discovered one doesn’t know what he doesn’t know. I was one of those people. I want to share my experience with others. Ignorance is one of the leading causes of firearm accidents. People need experience and training from somewhere, they’re not born with it and now most are not raised in that environment. I have seen many students that need significantly more training and experience to safely exercise their right. It is not unusual to have a student arrive in class with a brad new gun still in the box. Or a student who has never fired a gun before. Where do you want me to send that student? What is your advice to that person? Can I tell them just carry that gun and do as you see on TV, just point and pull the trigger, it’s your right? So I have invested my time and money to be reasonably competent as a firearm owner and instructor. I didn’t make the laws for a permit and even if TN was constitutional carry, there would still be people in need of training.

I'm not sure you are understanding exactly what I'm saying with regards to language. Gay is used now to mean something different than it meant 100 years before. At the time of the constitution the word REGULATED was used to mean well equipped and trained and disciplined. Now it is used as "controlled". The original intent is NOT what the anti gunners want it to mean. BUT it also was not exactly what some pro gun people want it to mean either. As to the tactics used, yes Washington used snipers and small units to harass the enemy. But you cannot have anarchy and chaos in the ranks and melding it all (volunteer "regulars" and the militia units) into a cohesive disciplined fighting force on par with a professional European military took a lot of work about which Washington complained often. Building an army from scratch is difficult . Washington had served with the British regulars in the French and Indian war and knew what level of discipline his men would need to face them. And finally the "I just don't accept trainers that have a vested interest saying that their service should be a prerequisite to exercise a right to protect yourself or your family on the pretense of public safety. " simply does not apply to me. I don't teach HCP classes regularly any more so I'm not saying any of this because of any kind of profit motive. I'm not "gatekeeping" preventing anyone from exercising a right . I'm educating people who choose to come to me to learn higher level skills , mindset, and how to fight with a gun which is a completely different skillset than plinking at the range. I'm not teaching permit classes so your assumption about my motivation is not at all valid. And even if there were constitutional carry and the state offered free training that I did not profit from at all I'd STILL recommend people take the training because remaining willfully ignorant of the law and of safe gun handling practices and marksmanship fundamentals is just irresponsible. If you are responsible enough to exercise your rights you should be responsible enough to be responsible and learn safe gun handling. My vested interest is that I've seen truly dangerous and horrendous gun handling by untrained people simply because they are ignorant of safety protocols and I would greatly prefer that good people not be victims of accidents and prefer that they dominate lethal force encounters they may find themselves in instead of just barely surviving...or worse.

It's really saddens me when I hear how there used to be classes taught by FFA on firearms safety and they even took students out to shoot behind the high school. It gives me a moment where i think "Man, what happened to us!?". I've always used the saw-table as an example when new gun owner safety and experience comes up. I say anyone can buy a saw table no questions asked, but its a very dangerous piece of equipment. I've met a good number of people seriously injured using wood working equipment that either they were operating or someone else in the shop was operating. If you buy this and you hurt yourself then you're hurt. If you buy a gun and hurt yourself or someone else at best you shoot yourself through and have a stupid story at worst you have a court date and a news slot.

Technician at this point. Thinking about taking the General at some point to be able to get into some of the HF bands, but I want to get my "feet wet" first.

I don't think anyone is saying that people should be denied their constitutional rights so I'm not even arguing that anyone is, but I've run into some people that really think that if you aren't on the range every weekend and doing drills then you have no business having a gun on you at all. I always hated this gate keeping attitude. The irony is that most of those people are usually pretty terrible shots and would rather take a cheese grater to their face then jog a mile. I've met people (and none locally thankfully) that are e a "safety instructor^TM" and they're always super excited to throw criticism at you. Had one guy tell me that I'm destroying my pistol because i'm using the slide release. But you can't argue with him.... hes the "safety instructor". What I hate more is how overbearing these guys become to new shooters and piss them off or intimidate them away. Most guns safety, I would say, is good common sense. You get people that have it and you get those that don't. I'm not a certified anything, but I tell most friends new to firearms that they should spend time and money on training, and just be very conscious to put good safety practices forth, Get a good holster, just assume that it's always loaded..etc and as long as they do that they're more likely to die in car accident than shoot themselves or someone else. A lot of people don't have any childhood experiences that ingrained the safety practices so they just have to be extra cautious.

Joseph Rutherford Walker (shown in this circa 1860

That’s what I’m thinking about if I can find then cheap. Since I work here, I decided to play since it was nice outside and work this evening.

Does the cylinder turn? Will the hammer cock? As said, it could be the ejector rod or just dried gunk. Along with removing the thumb piece and spraying there. also cock the hammer and spray into the frame. Use a good cleaner like Gun Scrubber and hose it down good. Let it sit for a while and then try it. Also check to see that the hammer is in the full rest position. If the hammer is back just a little, it blocks the cylinder release and it won't open. Look closely at the end of the ejector rod. Does it appear to be touching the forward lock? It shouldn't be. It should be close but not actually touching. Hold the end of the ejector and rotate the cylinder to tighten. NOTE: THIS IS A LEFT HANDED THREAD. Let us know if this works or not.

I have always felt that reloading was part of the shooting sports. It was always a good way to chill out after a bad day at work or an evening with the boys climbing the walls. [Both my kids were hyperactive]

The truth of the matter is that you do, in fact, have the right to keep and bear arms... That said, it is on you to learn how to handle firearms safely and use em effectively if need be. One of the baser things about our capitalist system and the gun community and certain of those populating it is the tendency of " experts " to try to feather their business nests by proclaiming that " you aint responsible nor trained enough to handle a gun "... The inferred point us that they, in fact, are and they can help you for a FEE... This is called " salesmanship " and is OK... I say, in the old latin proverb: " Let the Buyer beware "... What aint OK is when those same " experts " lobby trashy polititians, local and otherwise, to enact laws restricting a constitutional right under the guise of " making us all safer "... I heartily join Brother Dave in his opinion that there are folks out there who need protection from thugs n predators now; many of whom aint overrun with extra dollars for " mandated training "... " Mandated training " is a crock in today's atmosphere and the Tennessee political class well knows it. Personal safety is the supreme thought on every citizen and citizen gun owner's mind now. Welcome to Dodge City, where everybody is armed and edgy. That is all... leroy

I think you should get the king's permission before having kids. After you get a license from the crown of course. Times have changed since people started having kids.

This argument doesn’t sound any less ridiculous in this context than when the Bloomberg shills try to use it to claim that the 2A only covers muskets. If you have to jump through hoops and ask for government permission to exercise a right, it isn’t a right.

Really? Where is that in the Constitution? I seem to recall lots of pictures/paintings of the period, and not a one of them included a HCP or similar.

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I have a Savage 114H in. 30-06. It used to be my go to deer gun u til I upgraded to a Tikka. They are amazing rifles and plenty accurate to safely hunt out to 400 unmodified in my experience.

The P80 has landed...picked her up last night...i'll get the obligatory pictures up when I get home.....definitely worth it at MSRP....the RK counter guy said it was probably the only Glock he's ever thought was cool.

Freedom means assumed risks, like those who probably shouldn't be carrying firearms if they choose. I don't see the situation getting better, but I have to be willing to assume that risk if I believe everybody in compliance with our rules as a society has the right to keep and bear arms.

Kids say the darndest things...

Well done Sir! I know you'll love it. I sorta have a thing for the Walther PP series myself.

Rab, it boils down to people that were not prepared, as in they didn't have the components at their house to load what they were planning on shooting in the next 6 months. I haven't purchased any primers, powder, bullets since about 2014 or so. Just picked a box of spp off the shelf dated 2-2012. If you are going to shoot with any regularity, you need to have either the factory made ammo or the components to load your own. It is that simple. We gun owners are sometimes our worst enemy. It's like this, something happens to trigger a rush of the stores, we may be sitting on thousands of loaded rounds or thousands of primers, but we go Hey go buy some more _______. It has been especially bad this time. I heard if President Trump wins it will be next spring before you start seeing stock on the shelves and next fall before the prices start to drop. If Biden wins, start stockpiling ball bearings to shoot in a slingshot!!

Doug, have you checked Smith County Humane? Their web site didn't give prices, but I saw a site that said "Adoption fees vary slightly, but are usually $50-75 per pet." https://www.adoptapet.com/adoption_rescue/72487-smith-county-humane-society-buffalo-valley-smith-county-tennessee http://www.smithcountytnhumane.com/?fbclid=IwAR0TWr7xnbld8dCMxMzfgbVyjZTrAxC8iqG1U5TKnzShHUcnKmLc3-pa2ww

The following opinion is expressed at the risk of stepping on tender toes, what the heck, I've always excelled at taking risks. Through my personal experience with both child and animal "adoption / rescue" services I have found that many if not most (not all) have become more interested in the money than benefit to person or animal. They speak the warm fuzzy obligatory feel good verbiage to support their money mission. The complexities and available money is a big reason, not the only one, why the foster/rescue systems are over run with children and animals simply needing a loving home. I know several people who have contacted area senior centers and put the word out that they have a home to offer the right pet. They were able to connect with a senior that was having difficulty caring for their pet and wanted to find them a home without contacting shelters or rescue services. This allowed for sit down discussions as to the personalities/needs of the animals and and gave both parties a level of comfort as to the future for the animal. Again, personal opinion, not argument bait.

I think the AR handguard came from WISH. The bolt handle was fabed up from a random auto bolt I had in my various bolt box. I just made up the parts from what was on hand so its nothing really specific.

Well, I have began a quest to find my next furry companion and have contacted 3 different rescue centers about dogs I have seen on their web site. I have not made any commitment but I am learning that all the rescue centers I have spoke with have made it possible to adopt a human child easier than it is to adopt a dog. The place were I adopted Darby changed hands in 2019 and they have changed the entire format from what it was back then. I don't plan on giving up till I have a new friend in my home.

Man, 4 years next month. I think of him regularly. When I do, I say a prayer for those of y’all who are still here. And I say a prayer that one day our country will have as much zeal for taking care of our vets as they do for creating new ones.

@Mikefite passed a couple of years ago in an accident.

Well, let's hope this list isn't added to anytime soon.

If I'm off base here, someone correct me, but something that seems to be overlooked in the caliber discussion is how quickly you can hit the target more than once. Two 380 holes a few inches apart would seem to have a great chance of stopping a target than one 9mm hole. If someone cannot control recoil well enough to place an instant 2nd shot somewhere on target, then they either need to work on recoil control or they need a gun with less recoil.

I often say, glock is as popular as it is for a reason. I carry a Glock 19 daily appendix. Glock is so easy to get used to the recoil that is there and are so many models of glock that you can get one that fits her well.

Thanks. I know I'm not anywhere near Alpha Force knowledge...but I was at least questioning the 2000 meter 556 shots.

I think you should get training before you purchase a Bible or any other religious book. It needs to be government mandated training. The training centers should be next to the training for people that want kids. LOL

No one in their right mind thinks training prevents ALL accidents (or prevents all negligence). Just like sex Education , or Health Education or whatever they are calling it now does not prevent all pregnancy nor does police training prevent all mistaken ID shootings nor does all military training prevent death in combat. So I guess by that logic we stop training drivers, stop training police , stop training the military and stop telling kids where babies come from because people still wreck their cars?????

I'm married with kids. It's very rare that there's anything of value in my wallet.

Someone who is wanting to reload 9mm and has no brass? I had to answer.