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Here is an update. I had taken my Safety Course on 7/27, DMV visit on 7/29, and fingerprint on 7/30. This is an Enhanced Permit as well. I have been checking the DMV's online services daily, and today it states: "Your application was approved 06-Aug-2020. You should receive the card in the mail between 20-Aug-2020 and 27-Aug-2020." Sounds like I am good to go.

Nope. And the death toll isn't high enough given the amount of damage. Terror attack just doesn't add up. Government negligence and ineptitude makes all of the sense in the world.

I think I said something similar in an earlier post. I’m going to be careful with my wording, because I don’t want you assuming I’m coming at you. I can’t stand the fact that you are insulted by everything I post. Based upon what you’ve written, I assume you are a smart man. That being said, I think our opposition in beliefs is simply a matter of you not understanding that our experiences are vastly different. Your opinions are fine, they are what you know as relates to you, but you can’t box other people’s experiences in the same box as yours. There are far too many variables you would have to relate to without having experienced a walk in my shoes. Please stop taking this stuff personally. We’ve argued on TGO for twelve years, and we’ve yet to solve racism or world peace. Engage and share your opinions. If we differ, it doesn’t make us enemies. Hell I’ve been called the socialist commie for years. Had many disagreements, but we still come back and engage one another. We are here first and foremost because we support the second amendment and love guns.

Good old Wayne "Lopeared" and his advertising buddies should have been run out and tarred and feathered a long time ago. I am a Benefactor member but will never give another penny until old Wayne and his cronies are gone.

Does Covid make one lose his sense of humor?

I’m not arguing. I think the conversation has been very civil today.

Their corruption was detrimental to the needs of the membership. Regardless if they were the big dog, it’s not good to be stealing funds that people send to you with the expectation that you will use those funds to lobby on their behalf.

There are targeting laws and policies that cut both ways. Two examples are affirmative action laws, and contracts for minority owned businesses only. While these are designed to give a helping hand and "level the playing field" to a certain group of people, they are still discriminatory to other groups of people.

It's discriminatory when anyone or group of people are not allowed to be involved with, participate in, apply for, bid on, or to be passed over strictly because of the color of their skin. I'm not saying minority owned businesses haven't gotten the shaft in certain situations, but by trying to "right" a "wrong" by reverse discrimination isn't right either. Age old saying, two wrongs don't make it right.

If anything, that timing is likely to help the GOP more than it will the DNC. I think this gives weight to “they’ll take your guns” and some folks might vote Republican who might otherwise be kind of blasé this cycle.

I'm afraid that this constant hounding is going to create greater animosity. I would say most people don't think about the race of the people they live with and work around, but if you keep pointing it out eventually its gonna be something people notice and if the hounding keeps happening then animosity will be generated. I think we're on the verge of having a couple of generations out there that don't concern themselves with concepts of race and racism, but then here we are again. I worked retail in a hardware store many years in high-school and college and plenty of white people treated me like an ass. There were a few black people who came in, mostly elderly, who treated me really well. Some not so well. I had a black lady claim I was racist because I didn't help her quickly, truth told, we were busy and she didn't ask. Now I'm just and equal opportunity asshole

Arguing and discussing are not the same.

I agree. I believe we’ve had this discussion before. Most blacks that I know are conservative by nature. If there wasn’t the perception of exclusion and hatred coming from Republicans, mainly politicians, democrats would never get black votes. The democrats are smart enough to lie and give unfulfilled promises, while the republicans don’t even try.

I've tried many products of a similar nature. As much as I love Trij and I still do, Holo's red or green dots where the only ones that I didn't have to put my glasses on to see the dot clearer.er.er.er..... lol. But seriously. I've tried them all. What Holo does differently is beyond me. My astigmatism screws with my eyes vs dots... If you have astigmatism, try one before you buy. See if you feel the same way. BTW, nobody else throws a solar panel on top. Can't believe Trij would crab about any of this other than Holo is stealing some of their profits. Oh well. Competition is a biotch.

I put 200 rounds through the Tisas 1911 this morning. I used 230 grain Winchester FMJ in the white box and didn't have any malfunctions. I had four 8 round magazines, the one Tisas supplied, and three Promag 1911 ACP mags. I thought the Promags didn't fit at first because they were really tight. I cycled them about 20 times apiece and they developed wear marks on the to corners of the mag and loosened up quickly. I really like the gun -- as I said, its my first 1911 and the trigger is better than any of my striker fired 9's. The trigger breaks consistently just over 5 lbs and has a very crisp break. It was so good, the first few magazines I fired with my Springfield XDS 9 was all over the place. Here are the first three targets I shot from 7 yards. There are 16 shot at each bullseye. I'm a competent shooter, but I wouldn't consider myself an expert by any means. Here's the first two magazines with the XDS9, also 8 round mags. Here's the sixth magazine for comparison. It was a 7 round magazine and I'm sure the flyer is my fault. It too me that long to get used to the Springfield trigger after the Tisas. I'll shoot the other way around next time.

They still haven’t sent me my free knife from when I renewed my membership years ago.

The problem was not nearly eliminated. Prior to Obama most of society had decided that regardless of your feelings towards other ethnicities, it was in poor taste to be openly racist. Again, I say most. There were several times when taking my kid back to school in Tuscaloosa where I blew my horn and waved at the KKK standing on the corner in the middle of the day. Then you can add the birth certificate conspiracy from a man who won’t release his taxes and the only leadership skills he has is hatred, throwing people under the bus and lying.

Well it does happen to black people. It happened recently and a kid ended up dead because of it. He was black and walking down the street. His blackness was so terrifying that a woman called the cops on him. Look up Elijah McClain. That's not an isolated incident. Laws and policies have been put into place in this country that target certain groups of people. If you want to draw a line and say that they target those below the poverty line, fine. But look at the demographics of who is below the poverty line. Black people may be 13 percent of the overall population but they make up 21% (the greatest percentage) of Americans living below the poverty line. Mandatory sentencing laws and plea bargains are examples of these.

What are you sorry for? NOW we are supposed to listen and care about the opinions of celebrities because it aligns with your point of view? Come on now. Either we listen to celebrities all the time, or none of the time. You can't have both.

The documentary instead paints as him a nut job. And since Marvin isn't with us to dispute anything that they say, they get away with it.

I had a similar situation. In about 1965 or '66 I went into Mr. Curry's Western Auto. I was always in there ogling his guns & knives displays. He let me put a 16 g. H&R Single barrel on layaway (he may have called my Father about it, but I don't know for certain). As I had a full-time job, I paid it off in just 6 weeks. iirc it was around $30.00. He gave me a box of birdshot at no extra charge when I picked it up. I was either 11 or 12. I still have that shotgun and treasure it. The Past was a very different world.

Things are not getting easier for the NRA. Air your dirty laundry in public - turns out somebody might notice. https://www.npr.org/2020/08/06/899712823/new-york-attorney-general-moves-to-dissolve-the-nra-after-fraud-investigation Regardless of what you feel about the suit on its face - the NRA kind of walked into this with their lavish spending.

Thanks for your permission!

I have astigmatism, so I prefer prism scopes and dots. I use green CT lasers on a few pistols. At last count I have six RMRs. After reading David’s Holosun thread I have purchased three Holosun products. I can say without a doubt so far the green circle and dot reticle is a game changer for me.

Got a new toy today. Sometimes it's really good to know people who know people. Thanks again @willis68!

Pilot is a private company based in TN. The NRA is a non-profit chartered in NY, a State that has vast powers over “charitable” organizations. Not really comparable at all. Not only does NY want to dissolve the NRA, they want all the remaining assets forfeited to be given to other “charitable” organizations.

Exactly. But then black folks overwhelmingly vote for the very people who enact these laws.

The only thing that I would say she was wrong about was the “baseless” part. That’s the worst part about it. We’re here because WLP and his friends put us here.

This was very well stated. I don’t feel like arguing today, so I’ll just add one thing and leave this alone. So many people equate privilege with wealth and prosperity, therefore if one is not financially well off they do not feel privileged. Unless you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth, most people regardless of color who have achieved a certain level of comfort in this world did so because they worked their butts off. That does away with the argument that because you’re poor and hard working you’re not privileged. I like how @Capbyrd described what we are experiencing as systemic bias, systemic racism puts too many people on the defensive.

I'll probably be castigated for saying this, but I honestly feel like we had just about eliminated this problem until Obama became president. ANd I'm not talking about because he was black. I could name half a dozen other black people I would have liked to see become President instead.

I agree; “white privilege” is preposterous in 2020. But of course it’s something that can’t be proven; so it will be argued from now to eternity. People are going to believe what they want. Money privilege absolutely exists. Money not only gives you power, but it allows you to hire the best when you need them. Poor people, regardless of race don’t have that power.

Did anyone ever call the cops on you for simply existing? Did anyone ever pass laws that targeted your subculture with harsher penalties than another? White privilege exists but privilege might be a misnomer. I'd hesitate to call it systemic racism but our country definitely still suffers from systemic bias. And that bias makes it sometimes harder for certain groups of people to rise to the same levels as other groups of people.

I've had a couple Beretta 21As in 22LR. They are teeny, well made little buggers, and handy as all get out. However, the sights only seem to have a very casual relationship, at best, with the point of impact.

I haven't seen any credible news source with information that it was a terrorist attack. It wasn't a fireworks factory but the warehouse that burned could have easily had fireworks in it. A fire started in warehouse 9 of the port area. It spread to warehouse 12 where the ammonium nitrate from an abandoned ship had been stored since 2014. I posted a pretty detailed account of that debacle a few posts back.

The exclusion and hatred is more perceived than real in my opinion. The real racism comes from the Democrat party. I am 47 years old, and cannot remember one thing the Democrat party has done to help Americans, and especially black Americans. On the other hand, I can't name a whole lot Republicans have done for us either.

I hate MLK quotes, because few people ever quote his more radical quotes. Everyone quotes the be nice and turn the other cheek quotes. All turning the other cheek does is get you slapped on the other side of the face.

I thought it was presented in such a way that you could make up your own mind. I saw him as a bit odd, but not a nut job. He had plenty of reasons to be angry; both real and perceived.

You mean like Mylar, Velcro and Tang?

I think I remember her starting this a couple of years ago. I doubt they will get a court to dissolve the NRA; but they might. I doubt that would withstand scrutiny by the higher courts; but who knows. If they have spent this much time on the investigation, they need to indict the players in both the NRA and the agencies working for them that have violated the law.

I must be missing something...

There is a lot to learn in space and the current Mars missions are going to dictate what we do in space in the future. Imagine being able to launch our deep space probes from Mars instead of from Earth. We have less atmosphere to overcome which means the fuel necessary for launch is less. We could use Mars as a relay station for extended communications. The possibilities are endless. And we aren't done with the Moon. Moon base is still on the horizon as well.

Trijicon sees Holosun eating their lunch. Trijicon may have looked at their material and production costs and decided that this is the route of least friction. I don't think Trijicon will win, and I don't think it would make a huge difference if they do. Holosun will just slightly modify the specific elements they're spanked on and proceed with their day.

I'm a big Trij fan and have several Holo's.... but unless I'm missing something, those comparison photos don't mean crap. Other than size, like any other manufacture, small is the key for those sets. Sounds like a whine to me.

Well, it’s better than airsoft, I suppose. On a good day, shooting down wind.

Back in the day: I vividly remember my grandfather buying me my first hunting rifle to go squirrel hunting with him; a brand new Steven's .22 LR. I'd walk the streets around where I lived and pick up soda bottles, cash them in for 2 cents each. When I visited and spent the weekend with my grandparents, I'd walk the two miles or so to the Western Auto store. At 12 years old, I'd walk up to the ammo / gun counter and say give me two boxes of .22 LR, and put my two quarters on the counter. Back then if memory serves, if I had the money, at twelve years old I think I could have purchased my own rifle or shotgun on my own? Look at where we are today...

Link to YouTube Video Here's CJ, one of the students, running the 4+1 Transition Drill with a Tac14 in 20ga. I like this drill because it has many layers to it. The shooter starts at gunbox/cruiser ready and has to get the gun into action. Then they hit both outside targets (long transitions), both inside targets (more transitions), and ends with an emergency load to the center target. With only five rounds, we are practicing numerous skills. One issue with 20ga shotguns for defensive use is that there is not, in my opinion, a quality defensive buckshot load available for them. One must account for every pellet sent downrange, and quite frankly, I have yet to find a 20ga load with a good enough pattern beyond 7-10 yards to use with confidence. Here are pics of a Rio (I know) load I asked CJ to test in his gun. I didn't get pics of the Winchester Super X load he also tested, but it was worse. One round was fired at seven and 15 yards with three rounds fired at 25 yards. Note how many pellets are outside of the body of this large silhouette. For comparison, here is the same test shot with Federal 8-pellet reduced recoil FliteControl: I also ran the same test with some Federal "black pack" 9-pellet 00 buck. It held it's own out to 15 yards, but at 25 I had a pellet off of the body and several outside of the effective zones.

Marvin Heemeyer should have statues built to him.

Thank you. Everyday is a new day, and a day to do better than the last day.