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And we apparently keep forgetting the TN state Constitution reads in Article 1 Section 26. That the citizens of this state have a right to keep and to bear arms for their common defense; but the Legislature shall have power, by law, to regulate the wearing of arms with a view to prevent crime. So even if we want to argue that the federal Constitution allows no infringements or impediments to any and all carry of any and all weapons (which is shaky legal and historical ground) , the TN State Constitution clearly reserves the right of the legislature to regulate the wearing of arms in the state of Tennessee. Frankly I'd like to see the "enhanced permit" have the added value of eliminating the force of law from the signage. ANY business would still be able to ask you to leave if they so choose. But if you have the "enhanced permit" the signs then would not get you in legal trouble.

People carrying guns is not a recognized protected class like race etc. If they see you carrying a gun in their place of business, they have every right to ask to see your HCP. You do not have to show it but they do have the right to ask. That in no way infringes on any of your rights. You do not have the right to carry a gun in public in Tennessee. You pay for the privilege of carrying. And even if it was some sort of rights violation the police still would not arrest the owners. Police arrest for criminal violations and that would be a civil violation.

The first guy you’ll want to talk to is probably the sheriff.

They have the right to ask for what they want inside their business. Kind of like "No shoes, no shirt, no service." You also have the right to shop wherever you want and to deny your patronage to businesses that treat customers without respect. I enjoy that right and exercise it often. Cheers, Whisper

You need a licensed surveyor. Usually, property is staked before a sale, but I don’t guess it has to be. You also may need an attorney. A bad neighbor can be nearly as miserable as a bad wife.

I'm used to everyone else but me getting a handout. I've been self employed almost 30 years. That I'm getting a 1200 stimulus check is surprising. I'm sure my taxes will increase sooner than later to pay the tab.

This is the kind of story that ends up on the evening news six months later. Good luck, Capt.

I remember the old Victorinox saw blades that were just amazingly sharp. That was my standard for a saw blade until I used the Havalon. I wouldn’t hesitate to choose that as my bone saw if I was quartering an animal to pack out.

For 2K you can buy a couple of excellent entry level guns + top quality glass and a lot of ammo. Buy a nice rifle and give it a whirl. Then decide if you really want to spend that kind of money or even if .22 competition is your thing. You can get some excellent advice over at RimfireCentral.com. But I'd just ask about getting into competition and not mention any price range. Granted tho, some of those guys have some seriously expensive .22s.

If you are going to put a can on it, you don’t need to spend $2K. Buy a $150 rifle, but a $100 scope on it and call it a day.

I don’t think most of us are misunderstanding what is being said, we just don’t agree with it. They certainly have the right to ask you anything they want. They also have the right to ask you to leave based on your response unless it has to do with a protected class. You have a right to own a gun and have it in your house under the 2nd amendment. You do not have that right on another’s property. As a matter of fact, in Tennessee it is a crime to carry in public without a permit; carrying in public is a privilege you purchase from the state. A business does not have to have privileges forced up on them. Therefore they can ask you, and based on your response decide if they want to allow you to come in. No one is saying you can be arrested for refusing to show your permit; but you can be arrested for refusing to leave their property.

You’ve got a problem that a survey is unlikely to solve. Good luck.

More truth to this than I like to think about. @Capt.Dunsel I think that I'd get the survey and start digging corner post holes immediately. That way they can't move the pins and claim that they were never there. I think that I'd also let the Sheriff's Office know about what is going on by filing a report over the septic tank. Once you have a report number it's a matter of record regardless of whether the Sheriff actually does something about it. Remember: The first one reporting is assumed to be the victim. By having a report of previous incidents it supports your case of future incidents - which sounds like you are destined for.

I said this before on this forum and got numerous people trying to deny it. I even pointed out an encounter that I had with some Hell's Angels and was told that I was wrong to judge them on their appearance.

While I dont agree with our law that a business can ban firearms carry, I am otherwise a believer in property owners rights. But given our law DOES give property owners that right, they can ask you to leave at any time for any reason. Certainly they have the right to ask to see your permit, also, of course you dont have to show it, and then, of course, they have the right to ask you to leave, and if you dont, you're trespassing.

One of the biggest fallacies of the gun owning community is forgetting that we've (well, some of us, many here on TGO) taken the time to learn these laws. We should think on this one as if the person asking the question didn't know squat about handgun carry laws, because most people don't.

Dave's situation is pretty common, actually. If you know you don't have a disqualifying conviction, it is typically one of two things: (i) a charge that is not showing a disposition (like Dave's) or (ii) someone with a similar name is popping up on your record. The first is much more common, particularly if an arrest occurred many years ago. As many states began computerized reporting, they spent time entering old records and mistakes in entries became pretty common. On a similar note, I have seen several instances where someone was involuntarily committed for a mental evaluation at some point in the past. Sometimes those show up with a teenage who was having trouble at home, other times it is more serious. However, after the Virginia Tech shooting, those things started getting reported to the FBI too. Errors showed up in those records, as well. In both cases, you HAVE to deal with the problem in the court where the charge/entry occurred. I get several calls a month from people wanting to fix the issue in TN, even though the charge/entry is from another state. TN courts have no authority to fix any of that stuff unless it is in TN. Unfortunately, even when it is a TN charge/entry, TN's laws for fixing some of these issues are not great and can't be dealt with as easily as other states (for example, Washington state and Ohio - among others - that have specific laws allowing corrections, expungements, or restoration of rights). If your issue does not actually prohibit you and cannot be fixed otherwise (like someone else's record showing up on your record), there is a federal program (called the Voluntary Appeal File or VAF) that will set up a unique identifier number (sort of a SSN for firearms purposes). Those typically resolve these issues when nothing else will.

Well, got another one! Took my dad out shooting, after shooting the mac m10 and the colt M16, he is hooked. We shot Saturday, and by monday night I had found and purchased him a like new mac m10. He decided on the M10, because he can just use all of my accessories and uppers that I have accumulated for mine over the years. I also have a new upper in the works for this thing. As basic as the macs are, they have become a transferable sear pack. At 1/3 the price of a trany m16, they have really become a hot item. There is just something about that full auto experience and I love letting people shoot them.

I’ve got a Havalon multitool that uses the scalpel and saw blades. I’m pretty sure that someone with a steadier hand than I can use it to split dermal layers if they wanted to.

https://www.eurooptic.com/Zeiss-CONQUEST-V4-1-4x24-ZQAR-Illum-Reticle-62-Ext-Elevation-Turret-Locking-Sing.aspx?homepage_link

4x is plenty to hunt big game out to 150 yards. I used to shoot 3-gun with a 1-3 and could smack 12” plates at 300 yards pretty quickly. Also, that is a fairly small gun you will use. You may want try to keep the scope proportionate to the gun size wise.

Is his name Harry Potter?

How much " Murder Hornet" stimulus $$ are we getting???

They do NOT have the right to see it. They have the right to ask, state rules in their business, etc. If they are not satisfied, they can ask you to leave. Too many people have confused the terms: Rights, Privileges and Rules.... It is your Privilege to drive your car properly documented. It is not your right. You have Rules that state, you do not want peoples feet on your coffee table in your home. You have Rights as a citizen as per our constitution. ie, Right to Bear Arms. It is not your right to go against someone else's rules on private property nor break their rules. It is a privilege for this restaurant, for instance, that they allow you to eat there. It is not your right or by your rules otherwise. They have no rights to seeing personal documents unless you are willing to show them. They cannot demand them but they can ask you to leave. Easiest way is places need to post it! Period! Did I get this across somehow?

Clear and Present Danger. Harrison Ford. While you're at it, watch Patriot Games too.

You’ve got a problem that a survey is unlikely to solve. THIS. It's apparent they don't care what you bought, you're an interloper. it would also be worth asking if a survey could be contracted for with the County. Don't waste your time. The county doesn't get involved in this type of issue and the will not do a survey for you. My wife works for a title company in Knoxville and says that she believes the title insurance doesn't apply to the property, just the home. Title insurance involves the real estate which it the land and improvements. The first guy you’ll want to talk to is probably the sheriff. This. Establish yourself as the victim from the legal aspect. FWIW I'm an old real estate appraiser and I've seen this before. You done bought yourself into a nest of family. Good luck and carry concealed.

I to highly recommend you involve local law-enforcement post haste. The blunt truth is that this is the kind of story that often ends with news reports of somebody getting shot. If there’s any shooting going on, I’d really rather have the cops be the one to do it. It’s a lot less likely to cost you your life savings and freedom.

Since he is on my trust and the atf knows where it is, it will be allowed to stay at his place.

My wife works for a title company in Knoxville and says that she believes the title insurance doesn't apply to the property, just the home. It's still a good idea to call though. @Capt.Dunsel I would call the title company you used when you purchased the home and property and see if they can help.

I agree, but its interesting how thats exactly the reverse of the original intent of the Phillips head. The Phillips head design was intended to be a torque limiting device. The driver was supposed to be softer and cam-out to prevent over tightening and damaging the fastener... it was easier to replace the tool in a production environment.

Richard Widmark's volly gun The Nock gun was a seven-barrelled flintlock smoothbore firearm used by the Royal Navy during the early stages of the Napoleonic Wars. It is a type of volley gun adapted for ship-to-ship fighting, but was limited in its use because of the powerful recoil and eventually discontinued. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nock_gun Dont think I want to fire that thing!

Wiha make the best I have always used them

You can get a good deal on a Nikon scope right now - but the buyer needs to be aware going in. Nikon is known for their glass and has made some great optics - but they’ve announced that they’re exiting the scope business altogether. Getting scopes repaired under warranty claims may be an issue.

Or a gunsmithimg screwdriver that actually fits the slot. Sometimes good tools can actually save you money.

I would challenge you to that task, if you made it in Damascus steel with a 3"'-3 1/2" blade, I would most likely buy it. You know me I like to challenge your skills.

Yeah, any case study in any business school would say they were good decisions. Here's basically where we are in 2020. Let's say I walk into a boardroom with a big pile of cash that our business has made. A big pile - let's say a $7 trillion dollar pile. And I ask the board what they want to do with that money - we could invest in new factories, we could acquire competitors, better benefits for workers, whatever - maybe some combination of the above. But, since my board is filled with 'investors' - who really want to take money off the table and "invest" in some other stuff - they see my big pile of money and my suggestions and say, "what if we gave a chunk of that money back to shareholders?" "We could do a share buyback and make everybody's investment more valuable." That hypothetical $7 trillion is the amount of share buybacks that the S&P 500 has undertaken since 2009. Put it another way - it's more than 90 cents of every dollar in profit they've made. I'm not saying it's right or wrong - that's just where we are right now. So, look at another example. We bailed the airlines out after September 11th. We bailed them out in 2009. We just gave them another $50 billion bailout. But, since 2009 - they've spent 96% of their free cash flow on buybacks. They could have their own rainy day fund well funded. But that's not where the money has gone. It's gone straight into the pockets of their majority shareholders - knowing that the taxpayers will dump another big pile of cash into their coffers when it's needed because they're "too big to fail." There are a lot of ways to address this problem. I could list a bunch that would be palatable to people of different political tastes. Unfortunately we don't seem to have an appetite for any of it. And so here we are.

Yeah kind of like John Belushi's "College" shirt in Animal House it would just say "Concealed Carry"

Any one have a gun that shoots .219?

Wouldn't bet on easily disarming Albertans and British Columbians. They are culturally much more like Montanans and Eastern Washington, Idaho people than they are like English.. I think this may be repealed.. My 2 cents. Canada also had a surge in firearm sales and ammo just like the USA before the Pandemic. Canadians are culturally more like Americans whereas New Zealanders and Australians are culturally more like English who are used to submitting and obeying government authority without question. I think Canadians , esp in rural Western provinces will stand up and rebel.. Quebec people will probably gleefully submit and obey , as Quebec is the most European province in the country and of course where the tyrannical Trudeau's family hails from. His family is like royalty there. I use to live right on Canadian border and I was surprised how much people in Vancouver , BC on my visits (use to stay at friends house) admired the USA and guns. Canada has some of the highest gun ownership in the world even if it is much less than the USA> Trudeau thinks he will easily pull off a New Zealand gun grab in Canada. I think people underestimate the love Canadians have for their rifles and many Canadians are skilled marksman and it will take some serious efforts to go into those rural provinces and round up all the guns there. I think the "Gun confiscation" will end up being reduced to a "Future ban of sales". But, we will see. The ban is a confiscate at death, but since it is so restrictive, people will still go to their gun ranges, hunt with these guns and basically violate all the laws rendering them null and void, unless Canadian government sends in their police/military to enforce this law. Laws that are unenforced eventually end up not as laws or are eventually enforced through "any means necessary", to quote Virginia Governor Northam on his proposed gun confiscation bill. Of course, the Democrats will use this stunt to try to push something similar here if they get into power. Executive orders will always be the first means to make such an attempt. Remember, we cannot even worship in church or temple in some states right now because it is "NON-ESSENTIAL".

The admin was planning to do it from the start. Apparently legislature cannot meet during COVID19 so he's used the Canadian equivalent of executive order to push his agenda during a crisis. This does nothing to prevent another incident as the gunman used illegally obtained firearms. Nor does this prevent a mass shooting with the weapons that remain legal after this. They don't have a 2nd amendment. They'll grumble but comply, following in the footsteps of other commonwealth nations.

So according to that law a person can carry pistol on their person but not allowed to have it loaded or have the amunition on their person that fits the gun???? Ok so what is the sense in packing an empty gun around?? That is another one of those useless laws that cost the taxpayers to pay some politician to introduce which we all know had to come from the left. I guess if the gun is big enough you could use it for a club in a knife fight!!!!

They're free to ask you anything, but you're under no obligation to show ID to anybody except the police if they ask to see your permit, or your drivers license while operating a motor vehicle. They obviously can ask you to leave if you refuse. Frankly I'm not going to show my ID to a store clerk for any reason, unless it's a gun store and I'm buying a firearm I'd be happy to confirm I have a permit and that it's on me, but no way I'm going to give out my personal information like that to a random stranger. If they push back, I'd ask to speak the the manager and express the liability they excepting by requesting to see my personal information in relation to firearm ownership, ie identify theft, targeted theft of firearms, etc.