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Conspiracy Theories, Coronavirus, TGO and YOU For as long as I can remember, TGO has never really provided "safe waters" for people who want to preach conspiracy theories and rile-up the masses. There are plenty of places for that sort of thing on the Internet and yes sometimes the conspiracy enthusiasts (or nuts, if you so prefer) are proven right in the end. But since there are so many other places for it and since we feel that the ravings of fringe believers tends to bring down the property value, we prefer that our members engage in discussions based in reality. Lately the moderators have begun removing posts fanning the flames of conspiracy around the COVID-19 novel coronavirus pandemic. Generally speaking, I am supportive of their actions. Here's why: Priorities First and foremost, we have a present problem to deal with so let's start by putting our focus there. We have members who are and have been personally affected by COVID-19 and chances are this is just the beginning. If we are going to invest our mental and emotional energies into something, let's invest them in encouraging, supporting and helping our own community. Respect Again, we know that we already have members of TGO affected by this pandemic. So far they (and we) have been fortunate and it's turned out well. That could change. We don't want that to happen, but the statistical projections indicate that by the time the dust settles none of us will have many degrees of separation from someone that died as a result of the virus. I just think maybe it's a little disrespectful to the people currently fighting this virus and eventually to those who lose the battle for us to sit around and imagineer boogeymen behind a virus that science currently says evolved naturally. Stay In Your Lane, Bro Following right in behind the matter of respect is the simple fact that unless you're an educated, degreed, certified ass-kicking virologist, geneticist, research scientist, or have data from a respected source that is... you should probably stay in your lane. Remember the Great Toilet Paper Shortage of 2020? That happened because social media said there was a shortage of toilet paper. So the people believed it, reacted like scared sheep, and ran right over the edge of the cliff with arms full of Charmin. There's no reason for us to allow the next big social media fear-fest to start with or take root on TGO. We can control what happens here, so our intent is to manage it so that there's at least one place you can visit online that doesn't feel like the lunatics are running the asylum. You're welcome for that. Even if you don't appreciate it right now. And So What If That Conspiracy Theory Is Accurate? The President, love him or hate him, has already said that there are going to be consequences on the other side of this current situation for the way that China mishandled this. Even if they didn't bio-engineer it, their government hid the outbreak from the world until it was busting out of their borders. So far the Prez has done everything he's said he would do... right or wrong... so we can be pretty confident that the US isn't going to just let this slide. So, even if the latest conspiracy theory is accurate... you and I can't do a thing about it. Establishing and maintaining a military to preserve our sovereignty, the strength of our borders, and the security of our interests is the one thing that the government should be doing. It's maybe the only reason the government should exist if you ask some. But they are equipped to do something about it. Not us. Not even Chuck Norris. Let's let the government handle the boogeyman. And if they need our input on that, there will be an appropriate time to tell our elected representatives what we'd like to see done. And I'm sure that our actual scientists will be following up on all credible leads that help them expedite a treatment or vaccine for COVID-19. So if that takes them back to a secret lair somewhere in Communist China where they're having unprotected sex with bats while eating live frogs... so be it. In the meantime, let's stay grounded in reality here. It's scary enough and it requires our full attention.

I had the opportunity to do a tour with him back in 1983. One of the nicest guys I ever met. Then, there's the story with Lorrie Morgan...

Well actually the alpha wolves have no need to shop for ammo.

Appalling that so few understand basic economics. If it wasn't for the ability to charge higher prices in times of scarcity, there would not be anything available for those who truly need it. We laugh at those who are desperately buying a gun and ammo when they suddenly feel danger. But if you TRULY need a gun and don't have one, wouldn't you be willing to pay a lot more than when there is no threat? The high prices also serve as a strong lesson that it is much cheaper to be prepared for an emergency than having to react and pay the higher prices.

I should do that too, but I haven't got a week to spare

I remember a time when there was no such thing as bottled water except maybe tonic water or seltzer to make cocktails with until Perrier came along. Then everyone had to start buying water they’re already paying for at home or getting free anywhere they go, lol. It really wasn’t all that long ago. It’s amazing we survived.

I think the problem is actually those willing to pay it. Don't they make the market?

Yeah, Fauci should know better than to tell the truth. Trump's litany of ignorant opining, misleading disinformation, political and press attacks, and outright lies over the last two weeks (too many to mention) have reached a new low, as they now directly affect the odds of mass death in my country. But of course I understand it's still mostly Obama's fault. - OS

I just called my friend. Other than feeling achy and the occasional cough, she sounds back to normal. That's amazing considering that she was thinking about going to ER 24 hours ago. I think this speaks volumes for taking supplements to keep your immune system strong, which she and I do.

I remember drinking from a garden hose!

How did this escape notice? New from Ruger, the 9mm PC Charger pistol: https://ruger.com/products/pcCharger/models.html

I'm sure many of you have heard of this service before. I've done it in the past but canceled a while back. My general thoughts are that it is superb quality meat that is only worth it to you if value convenience and quality. Well, last week I signed up again "Just in Case". With meat quality being potentially spotty, I thought I'd hedge my bets. I have a box to be delivered Friday, just confirmed by Butcherbox. I also specifically asked about supply, and this was their response: Our fulfillment and delivery partners are working with us closely and are currently operating as usual; we are not experiencing any supply issues or delivery delays. Should this change, we will communicate this to our current and potential members. I figure it's worth the $150 to hopefully have a shipment of food for March, April, and May. Can alway cancel if/when things "return to normal". Unashamedly, if anyone uses this link to sign-up, you'll save $30.00 off your first box and I'll get $30.00.

That’s great it starts with an earthquake birds, snakes and an aeroplane Lenny Bruce is not afraid

And I feel fine.

Sig kilo2200

Bu y what you want. As for the price gouging. I have no respect. So this is where we are?.

I moved all mine twice in 4 mths. I'll never move again just because of that!

or toilet paper.

But we will add when deals appear.

I'm ready to buy all the ammo!

J. Paul Getty, when asked when he first knew that he was a billionaire, replied "if you can count your millions, you're not a billionaire". You can paraphrase that to "if you can count your ammo, you don't have enough ..."

I do lol....Its a by product of having to drive 45 mins to shoot....but having a gun obsession.

I'm in for one.

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I’m not participating in the crisis and have been on spring break vacation in Gatlinburg. Sales appear to be brisk at Smokey mountain knife works. I did pick up some .22 ammo but not out of need but due to the incredible price.

What supplements do you take?

Just saying

Hey folks. I'm not technically new since I've been around since 2013 I think. But I have recently started seriously producing custom leather holsters and I have just officially become a TGO Vendor. I have a small operation and no plans to do this full time, but I love making sturdy, safe, and well designed holsters and hope there may be some demand out here for them. I do not have many blue guns yet (holster making molds) but I will order any blue gun that a customer wants with no extra charge to the customer. I am asking $40-$50 per order right now, not including shipping. All transactions are handled through PayPal and I expect lead times to remain under 2 weeks. I receive payment first, then begin building or ordering the proper mold. Please reach out with any questions or comments. Happy to get more involved in our awesome firearms community! The holsters below are already spoken for, but are some examples of my recent work.

Probably exit polling performed by a journalist at a select gun store if 10 buyers.

I’ve read the following. Call a local clinic. Discuss with them. Supposedly they will instruct you where to go for testing. Let us know how that goes. I would call before going anywhere.

Your wife needs to stay away from you and other people. Call your doctor immediately. Get tested and have your wife get tested. Do not go out in public until you talk to your doctor.

Howdy and Welcome to TGO!!!

Welcome to TGO and thank you for your service.

Welcome aboard.

9mm @ $220.00 to $225.00 per thousand while higher than recent times, still about the same as a few years ago.

Welcome to West Tn. Have a sister in Milan.

This crap is unreal ! I still dont understand how the virus thing triggered this mess. I was at a local gun store picking up a part and a man comes in walks straight to the counter and asks if they had AR15 lowers. The guy then said "give me 2" . He didnt look at them or take his time to check them out or anything. He just flopped out his money and started the paperwork. WIth me , I take my time and check out the lower to see if it looks good and look for flaws and such. But this dude just scarfed 2 up and did the paperwork. Then a lady comes in and does the same thing. Funny thing is that there were lotsof .22lr ammo and it wasnt touched at all.

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I still can't wrap my head around the people carrying out cases and cases of bottled water...I mean if the commies were invading or aliens had come down...or the Russians/China EMP'd our powergrid ….we really are our own worst enemy.

I've got more ammo than I'll discuss openly, so none of this caught me off guard. I picked up some more before the prices really went through the roof, just because I'd like to attend a class next month. I say this to qualify the statement that my anger toward CTD doesn't come from me needing something they are gouging for now. No, my anger for them comes from the fact that they are rapists taking advantage of the naive folks who didn't know this sort of thing happens and didn't know to prepare. Not every shooter today was even a gun owner in 2012. Bear that in mind.

BTW...if you were truly short-sighted enough to wait til now...hop on PSA they are still dealing out the deals as they are probably my favorite company to buy from....your welcome you ill-prepared masses.. https://palmettostatearmory.com/ammunition/handgun-ammunition.html

Good that I saved my modest stockpile from the last panic.

Gee, all ti took was a world wide pandemic to make them understand they're responsible for their own safety. As for me, I could arm a small army if it came to it. I learned from the Obama years.

Still casting and powder coating boolits, bought more 9mm nickel brass Sat.{for my 9mm pit bull] and picked up a new powder [pistol power] Friday. Make my own no need to panic. Picked up 4500 22 lr at auction in Nov. at less than three cents ea. Got a couple of revolvers since the first of the year. Probably need to order some primers, and finish my bullet trap to recycle my lead. Dug through another storage box and found a few thousand more primers that had forgot about. Will check tomorrow at Hulmes Sporting Goods to see if their powder shipment came in.

I really thought Obama had taught us to be self sufficient. If you're not prepared I have no sympathy.

I did my part to warn folks.

Control is an illusion

There might be a couple laying around here. (Actually, two of these aren't revolvers. It'll take a true gun nut to figure out which two.)

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