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I have all my bases covered on carry and home defense guns (for now) and find myself buying range toys. What have you bought that serves no purpose other than something for you to play with at the range? Or even something you are buying as a collectable and will never shoot? I could never own something and not shoot it; but I know some folks do that. I just ordered a Ruger Mark IV Competition; it supposed to be here Tuesday. My next purchase will be to try to fill the spot of “Cowboy Gun”. I’’ post pics when I get them. The only other range toys I have is my 1911, Garand and my rimfires. Feel free to post pictures.

Nighthawk Agent 2 with IOS in 9mm..... first 9mm in 1911 for me.

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Couldn't pass up this package. Springfield 1911

After seeing Jerry Miculek’s cleaning stand for his AR15 I got a little jelly about it and wanted one of my own so I welded up some angle and rebar. thumbs:

Donation, bump, well wishes.

Same old conversation. One cannot be for constitutional carry and assume one is suddenly trained anymore than assuming a ECP class makes one qualified to carry routinely. I have taught a couple thousand students, and there is a very small percentage I would be comfortable with being downrange. I think the class has some excellent legal information. Classes of a tactical nature are strongly recommended/necessary.My opinion doesn’t solve anything. But many of the posts contradict themselves.

How did we ever survive without permits and range qualifications?

Yes. Everyone absolutely should get training and learn how to handle a firearm if they are to carry one. Rights come with responsibilities, but it is up to the individual to meet those. It’s not for the government to set arbitrary hoops to jump through before a right can be exercised.

Read this very carefully.

I think you are right for thinking people should know the law. All the laws that will impact their family and their freedom, not just the gun laws and the use of force laws; my experience is that too many don’t. I also think that a person should have professional handgun training. But if I agree that the government should require it; I no longer believe in the 2nd amendment. Therefore, I believe it is the responsibility of the individual to get that training, and not the responsibility of the state to see that they do.

That’s one of the best reasons to own any kind of gun.

North Carolina.

CZ 457. The sole purpose is friendly competition with my brother in law to see who can consistently hit a golf ball at 300 yards. Last time got it dialed in on a 6" steel target, will try for the 3" target on the next trip. I'm having a lot of fun with this one.

Hello, everyone! I'm Sean and currently live in Limestone, Tennessee. I've lived in the Tri-Cities area for the better part of 20 years now but just discovered this website today. I've been around guns all of my life and served in the US Army in field artillery (honorably discharged). My EDC is a Bersa Thunder .380 with Hornady Critical Defense ammo and my backup is a Beretta Pico. I also have a Mossberg Model 88 Maverick 20-gauge pump shotgun. I carry for personal protection but I enjoy target shooting and EDC training. I can shoot in my backyard but will usually go to one of the three National Forest shooting ranges near me (Pond Mountain in Hampton, Scioto Range in Unicoi, or Bubbling Springs near Del Rio) with a friend. I'm here to chat about guns in general and to learn from my fellow gun enthusiasts.

Really like this! Hope to parley into one someday. lol I've become a fan of 1911s in 9mm. Started with a Rock Island. Then a Springer, a Colt or two. I do want a Smith too. Just love the combo! Fun too shoot and my old wrists like them too.

My top 3! If I shoot they shoot! So much fun!!!

Just picked this up the other day, now rides in my truck.

I have one like Jerry's but with plastic see thru covers-it works pretty well-I also have the Tipton Best Gun Vise-I prefer the Tipton for mounting things like scopes and such.

Decided to put together a AR with a little bling-not a lot just a little.

I like your stand better.

If for your first post on the forum, you feel strongly enough about a topic that you resurrect an 8 year old thread; you should give your opinion on the subject instead of trying to redirect traffic to another forum. Don't you think?

YEP!

Well said. There is no need for a 2 tiered permit structure.

My wife has owned guns for years but never touches them unless I put my boots on. If she wants to carry, I'm ok with that. Practice, practice, get your enhanced version then, practice, practice, practice. Did I say practice? I've set up various drills and targets in my home so we can both stay sharp but she never practices. No practice, no ccw... Don't need her in panic mode and giving me a new butt hole nor not knowing when to draw in public and understand the rules of engagement..

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I started wondering what the impetus behind this legislation was. "It just makes things a bit cheaper" doesn't sound realistic. Scratch the surface and it's really not better than what we had before (unlike when the requirement to have a permit to carry in your car was removed). I suspect it was lobbied for by the same companies providing the online classes for speeding tickets.

My whole issue to this is just that there is no need for this new permit class. One permit structure is just fine. If one wants a permit then just save the money to get the HCP. As long as we are required by the state to obtain a permit to carry then proper marksmanship and common sense should apply. As others have said, some states won't recognize the new permit. What good is that if that permit is not recognized? I would love for constitutional carry to be the norm but I don't have faith that it will ever happen. In the mean time at least prove you can hit your target and understand the laws. Easier said than done in a life or death scenario. Could I do it? I hope so or I'll be in a world of s#&t. One thing I learned is that every bullet that leaves your gun has a lawyer attached to it. That and showing that you understand the basic concept of deadly force in self defense can mean the difference between going home or going to jail possibly. I dunno what the new course teaches but I doubt it matches what I learned in my HCP class back when I took it. I learned just enough to be dangerous. Practical tactical courses should be next. I want to take some but the money thing keeps me from doing at the moment..

Re-reading the post, I see I didn't really make my point clear. I think what I want to say is that if we have to be "overseen" by any body or regulation; I would prefer some form of "capability" being shown or proven, before being given said "permit. Sort of like the requirement of testing to be getting a driver's license. Where at least minimum capability is shown before being turned loose on the highways. I really am not putting this down well today. lol

Not the same at all. Ruger on the left, FN/CMMG ProMag on the right

They didn’t want my business before so I don’t feel the need to give it to them now. Plenty of places to buy things they have.

I could not agree more, and it truly worries me that many folks will be allowed to carry and not know how to properly shoot their handguns,

I personally think the new permit is not a good idea. Showing some proficiency at shooting a stationary piece of paper gives the instructor some idea if the student can hit the broad side of a barn. Also, I wonder if the online class goes into details about common sense laws about using deadly force? There was a guy in GA that is charged with felony murder for shooting and killing a teen for stealing his cellphone. If I'm not mistaken, you don't have to take a class to get a CCW in GA. Just go to the courthouse, fill out some paperwork and if your BG check comes back clean you get your permit. I think all states issuing a permit to carry a gun should at least give some legal perspective on the use of deadly force in their state so that applicants know some basic rules. Most places you can't shoot someone over stolen property. If a person doesn't know that then they will be in for a rude awakening if the do. Am I wrong for thinking that way?

Yes you should know that laws of other states. That is the reason www.handgunlaw.us exists. You also need to know what states honor your permit. There are states that don't put out that info. They will list states they have reciprocity with but won't list the states that honor their permit. I have been told over the years at least 100 times that I list states X honoring state Y and that is false as state Y doesn't have an agreement with state X. Washington State AG states on his website: To gather this information, we send out an annual survey to each state. As we obtain updated responses, we revise the list of reciprocal states and their laws. They only list 10 states they have reciprocity with but 25 states honor the Washington permit. They don't tell their residents that. The CA AG doesn't even tell California residents that 24 other states honor the CA perm,it. There are a lot more like that, TN should do the same for their residents as they are in position to get something in writing. Many states are making a fortune on what they charge to get a permit they can at least tell those who are supporting their gun divisions who honors that permit. Stay Safe, Gary Slider

They already do that. What the permit holders of TN need to do if they want to know what states will honor the Permit they have is contact, or look up the information, on the states you want to know abouts web sites. Unless you are standing in Tennessee; no one cares what the Tennessee web site told you. Not trying to be an azz, but if you are going to carry a gun in another state; you better know the laws of that state. I travel to another state to shoot a lot. If I had a dollar for every time I have seen someone post information on this forum, that was wrong, about the laws of that state; I could buy a high end gun.

Do nothing. The handgun is on loan for the next 70 years and then becomes an estate transfer. From the ATFE web page above, this is legal. Don't go looking to wake the bear. One day that might be the only gun you get to keep.

If that would happen in Tennessee violating our rights would not be an issue. Unfortunately, those that live off the government or want the government to run their lives, are more likely to vote than those busy working and supporting a family.

Last night on Netflix I watched the Movie “Walk Ride Rodeo”. It’s the true story of Amberley Snyder who was paralyzed after a wreck, and her battle to get back in the saddle. She is now a popular motivational speaker. Huh, imagine that. I wish I had known as I was watching it that she performed all the post-crash horse stunts in the film. And her younger sister Autumn performed the pre-crash stunts. It’s a good family movie.

This has been my primary carry for about 25 years now. For me at least, its the perfect carry gun. Its a lightly modified 1959 Colt Commander in .45acp. At that time there was no Combat Commanders, so all Commanders were lightweights. I bought it used at a gun show some 30 years or more ago. Frankly, it was a mess. I refinished it once myself, but was never truly happy with the results. So in 2010 I sent it back to Colt and had them refinish it. As you can see, 10 years of carry hasn't hurt it much. In recent years I've considered replacing it with a newer version. However my mods, although minor, do pretty much negate its collector value. Besides, its totally reliable, accurate and we're old friends now. On the question of wear and tear of everyday carry? I ask, how much is your life worth? As for holsters, I only use leather. I have no more use for a plastic holster than I do for a plastic gun. BTW: the leather gear in that picture is at least 20 years old and still in excellent shape. Its just broken in real good and very comfortable. Buy quality and it'll last. Honestly, I've never cared much for a 9mm 1911. Something just seems wrong about that. Almost blasphemy. If you're going to limit the number of rounds in the gun, make sure they'll do the job. Frankly, if you're going to carry a 9mm, there are hundreds of better choices with more capacity available. If you insist on a mid-bore 1911, I suggest to look hard at the original, the .38 Super.

Since it was good enough for the apocalypse I may have to get one. But only if it has unlimited ammo like Rick's.

It is not new. It has been federal law for decades. Handgun sales must be made in your state of legal residence and since identifying information is filled out using your DL, that’s the determining document. Rifles may be purchased in another state, but the sale must conform to the laws of the buyer‘s state of residence. In this instance NY state law prohibits residents from purchasing long guns in non contiguous border states. If you live in TN full time, then you need to change your license anyways. If you only live in TN part time then you will have to buy what you want in NYS, or more reasonably, some place like PA and then transport it to TN. If you choose the latter, I wouldn’t go back through NYS on the way to TN. It has been alleged that they do something similar to CA and use state agents to keep an eye on the gun stores in bordering areas to ensure non-conforming guns aren’t bought out of state and smuggled in by residents.