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Another good read by Marko Kloos. Came across this years ago, thought is was worth posting. https://munchkinwrangler.blogspot.com/2007/03/why-gun-is-civilization_5678.html Friday, March 23, 2007 why the gun is civilization. Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it. In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some. When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force. The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gangbanger, and a single gay guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender. There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat--it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed. People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly. Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser. People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level. The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weightlifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable. When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation...and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.

Most law enforcement are anything but legal scholars. I expect this guy was tired of being pulled over and harassed. I bought a pop up camper from a guy, and he gave me a copy of the law stating you didn’t have to put a tag on a pop up camper. He was insistent that I keep that paper in my truck. I never had an issue, but am willing to bet he did.

Tennessee is an “employment at will” state; they don’t need a reason to fire you. Unless you have an employment contact that spells that out. Carrying a gun in this state is a privilege you buy from the state; not a right. So no, you won’t find anything in the law to protect you from getting fired for violating your companies policies. That statute is a requirement for arrest under criminal law. Your company is not subject to it.

Free bump because I donated.

Same way he does with a semi. All the big trucks at work run them in the front. Doesn't matter if a particular truck ever runs a trailer. The first thing the the cops going to do is come get all your paperwork and exemptions anyway. The truck isn't registered to me anyway. They have no idea who's driving. Same goes for little dually trucks. We use them as parts runners. Run a part from New York to Kentucky today kind of thing.

I really have got to stop visiting this thread. I get wrapped up in such great music! I may not agree with all the picks, but all are awesome! I have such love of almost all types of music...it's almost impossible to pick any as a favorite. Tonight, I've visited Home Free, Jackson Browne, Johnny Cash and Waylon Jennings. Jeffe Lynne and Simon and Garfunkle. Leonard Cohen and Patsy Cline. And of course the killer of all... Eric's "No Tears in Heaven!" And as usual, have lost well over an hour. What am I listening to? Everything posted here and more. There just isn't enough time for it all to be heard, especially when I replay one that tugs at my Heart. Like Mike+the Mechanics, George STrait and George Jones. So much beauty in it all.

If a person is unwilling to help out even in some small way they have no business complaining when politicians pull their crap- My son is coworkers with an older fella that piss and moans about all the anti-gun politicians and the stuff they try to enact-but when he was asked if he does anything about it the answer is no. Do you vote-Naw they don't listen anyways. Do you belong to any groups like the NRA or GOA-Naw they only want my money. Do you at least write or call your Representatives-Naw what good what that do. So I say to this fella-SHUT UP-you have no complaint if your unwilling to help.

True, but the county resolutions send a clear, albeit unenforceable, message to State politicians. It may (probably will) only strengthen their resolve to infringe as I’m afraid we’re going to see in VA, but they cannot deny or reasonably dismiss that people are standing up.

Hard to see it with a trailer on.

Sums up my feelings on the matter pretty well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Mast An impressive young man for a congressman.

Bingo.

You couldn't be criminally prosecuted for carrying at work, unless your employer specifically meets "posting" requirements. You could be fired for carrying, you could technically even be fired because they thought you carried in the past, or even because you had a Glock poster in your office or posted a photo of you shooting at the range to Instagram. The kicker...is that you likely would never find out "why" they fired you, other than the fact that they fired you. That is what "At will" means. In my opinion, that's exactly how it should be in the United States. A private company should be able to conduct business however it wishes, in my opinion.

Company policy for employees is your 'law'. Even though in most circumstances you can store your firearm in your vehicle legally, your company may fire you for not combing your hair; just the way it is. The law you posted has no protection for you choosing to carry on company property/facility.

Regardless; I want one.

To bad the left will never understand this.

Done. Good luck.

Get ya one of the gas plugs. Better yet, just get TWO so you'll have one for your next one. Thats what I did and wouldn't do a thing different. http://www.garandgear.com/ported-gas-plug.html

Let's allow natural traffic to keep it toward the top of the new threads list for the folks who are interested. I appreciate the sentiment but I also have to be careful and weigh the consequences of how others may feel if we don't do the same for them in the future or haven't done the same for them in the past.

Quigley Down Under - Tom Selleck

I was just watching the news. 63 Canadians were on that flight and they were interviewing PM Trudeau. One of the reporters actually asked him if he blames the U.S. for the crash. Really? That leaves little doubt where MSM stands. BTW: Trudeau did not answer the question. Just the usual "full investigation" response.

If shouldering a brace was illegal, there would be a whole bunch of folks on YouTube in jail.

I'm just giving you a hard time. I agree with you. I just don't trust the ATF to be consistent on this issue.

Well, let me put it this way: It's better than a .40... Oh! Seriously though, .38 super has enough energy for what you're thinking if you can find rounds loaded with suitable projectiles. In terms of economy, you're right about never finding anything that's truly cheap. You'd have to reload, or make friends with someone you're willing to entrust your fingers, eyes, and life to (and who's willing to take on the responsibility). And, if it would be an acceptable substitute, @CBOW, check the STI 2011 in the classifieds here.

This one made me laugh.