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To me this just points out how overbearing our own government has become. If they want you, they will do anything, say anything or make up any excuse to get you. This guy may have beaten the rap, but look what it cost him. He stayed of of jail, but .gov got what they wanted anyway.

Probably the best thing you can do for the ones you leave behind is to keep good records for your guns. They will need to know: Make Model Serial number When you bought it What you paid Current value Doing this will keep them from getting screwed when they find themselves having to dispose of your collection. Some of you may remember that a couple of years ago I had to dispose of a late friend's collection for his wife. Thankfully he kept good records. The goal was to sell them and do so quickly. By having his records, being able to identify exactly each gun and knowing what he paid for them, I was able to price his guns attractively to sell quickly, but at the same time make sure his wife didn't lose any money on them. Remember, tomorrow is promised to no one. While you may intend to sell them off yourself, be prepared just in case your loved ones suddenly find themselves stuck with the job.

There is a reason that folks have long maintained that it’s a poor choice to make enemies with a man who keeps pigs.

I get it, even if I shake my head at it. When the well is about to run dry, people are going to show up with an extra bucket to get ready for hard times. Wonder who makes up the compensation committee that set all this in motion? But seriously, if anyone wants to just throw away money at something other than an ex-wife, forget the NRA and give it to me. I promise, I'll be as carefree with it as WLP and crew would be. The filing also shows perks for top officials that are typically associated with the corporate world, including charter and first-class travel with companions as well as dues for health or social clubs. Those costs were not detailed, though the filing says housing expenses were provided for five people. During that same period, NRA spending plunged 22 percent for education and training, 61 percent for hunter services and 51 percent for field services, which includes organizing volunteers, fundraising for shooting sports and promoting the NRA at gun shows and other events, according to a previously released audit. I'm actually kind of hoping all the accounting comes out to the public eye. I'd love to see what's being tracked in whatever expense system the NRA uses.

Received my latest masterpiece from GT and figured I should have a family photoshoot. He is definitely an artist with steel!

My duty had me spending a lot of time over several years on the butt of custom built bolt guns with high end glass. Most all were .308. I did have a personal rifle at the time which was a budget Remington "Sportsman" in .270. My buddy and I bedded the original stock and floated the barrel and this was my deer rifle. It really cranked our armorer when my budget Remington matched groups of our custom duty rifles. Eventually I no longer was on the bolt guns for work and sold my Remington. Recently I finally decided to pick up another bolt rifle. I really didn't need to spend a ton of money so after talking around I saw an ad on Armslist that was nearby a couple of weeks ago. I picked up a Ruger American .308 with a 3x9 for just under three bills and am very pleased with it. There is probably no more than a half inch or less difference in three round groups from the groups I had on my previous rifles. In my opinion only, unless you are doing some serious competitive shooting, a Ruger American, Savage, Mossberg, Howa, Remington 783 etc. are fine for hunting and pleasure shooting. Granted there are smoother, nicer finish, sexier rifles out there for more money if that is what you want, but these will certainly get the job done. But then I am also pretty fond of Taurus revolvers, product may settle during shipping.

Definitely nothing on par with an old S&W. I think it’s probably a “you need to see one for yourself” kinda situation. I actually saw one today at a LGS and it’s defiantly not glossy or bright, just a nice mid-range blue. If you were to slick one up with a silicon cloth while admiring it, I imagine the bluing looks closer to what it should.

They are the basic Ruger blue. Nothing fancy. BTW, I have the 5.5" SS .357. It's kinda shiney.

A little harsh?

Unless you do it the way Hickok45 does it. It really is that simple.

Wow. Im a little surprised at how many others are thinking similar thoughts. I really hesitated posting the OP because i felt like it sounded whiny, lol. Im not in a big hurry and may well wait to see how the political situation evolves before I sell. Thanks, guys, for the support and the advice. You guys are awesome.

We had pigs as a teenager. They would try to knock me over when I carried their food to the feeder. Dad did not believe me till he saw them try. After that we loaded the feeder from out side the fence, as well as not enter the pen alone, I hated them.

I need to do this. Mines getting to be a rather large family I’m afraid. Lol

Did anybody watch SWAT tonight? Near the end when our heros are closing in on the BGs, they see them coming. They show one of the bad guys dropping his Glock pistol into one of those conversion units that gives it a rear brace and forward grip. (I can't remember what they're called?) And then the BG goes on to shoot it full auto! Oh Boy, Hollywood has now discovered these things. I wonder how long it'll take for the antis to pick up on this?

Ran across an ad for this and checked out their website. Anyone have any experience with this company and their holsters? Looking at this one: https://urbancarryholsters.com/order-new-lock-leather-owb-holster.html

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

Yes...but she looks good doing it! Went away and then had to come back and comment on this again. lol Slightly off from the original intent here, but...do you notice how clean and classy she looks? Even while giving that little 50's sweet and sassy smile? What's happened to a big percentage of the female population these days? To me, they are beginning to look...well...sort of low class to almost "lady of the evening" styles. I see the classic beauty of the 40's and 50's and just wonder what the hell happened. Ok, yes. I am officially an old man with thoughts and values that are mostly outdated.

Update: So.. I guess Dan Wesson 1911s are known to have the wrong front sight once in a while. I contacted them, they asked for some targets and the slide. I got it back in about 2 weeks. It shoots right where I point it now. Happy camper.

I just recently picked up a Kimber 84 in 6.5. Going to put a Vortex on it and then get it sighted in.

May all of us give thanks for all.

Happy Time of Giving Thanks to one and all!

Thank you! Happy Thanksgiving to you and the rest of TGO as well!

I've only been once, and that was opening day of muzzleloader. I saw about 30 deer and 5 of them bucks, but nothing worth shooting. It seems the weather sucks when I get a chance to go. Glad to see you guys getting some nice bucks.

You are good with trying to impeach the President; and he hasn’t committed any crime. Why aren’t you okay with this? I know you would like everyone to believe that this guy was railroaded and sent to prison over weed, but I doubt there is a single person on this forum that believes that. If you feel so strongly about it; hook him up with a go fund me account or donate to his legal expenses.

No, but I have learned that obeying the law greatly decreases problems like this.

They say there are two kinds of gun owners. Those who have had a ND and those who will.

No, it wasn't a murder investigation. His business partner was murdered but that has nothing to do with what happened here. ATF spokesman Richard Coes said the justification for the search was "that [Myers] was using explosives and getting paid for it via YouTube."[23][24] According to Myers, the case was originally tried on the state level but it was appealed to the federal courts due to the state's justification for searching his home was that "he was wearing shorts." The Federal courts prosecuted on the grounds that illegal drug possession while owning a firearm is a federal offense. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FPSRussia

A good reminder. It happened because you pulled the trigger, as many will point out. It can also happen without you pulling the trigger. Which they like to deny. We can’t be careful enough with a loaded firearm. I’m OCD about having an ND or a AD and have been handling guns for over 50 years. I still am concerned it could happen to me. I’ve had one AD, but the gun was pointed at a target when it happened.

Uncle hi power, is that you??!!?

Yes, those are some things I have considered. All but the neighbors. Flaming liberals all around me. I'm surprised how quickly our street went Dem/Bernie/Warren/Hilary. Just the result of all the new people moving in.

Be vewy vewy quiet. I'm hunting wabbits

I too have started downsizing. I am 71 and my health is getting worse. I want to give my guns to my grandchildren. I want to do it before I will need to run them through a nix system. Have already given away several and have several more to give. I sure have enjoyed collecting them over the last 50 years. Hard to see my babies leave, but the passage of time is saying let them go. Will keep enough to protect my sweetie and me. Kinda sad in a way.

That is an understatement. I like most are over the hill, but I can still see some of the top!! I have 2 children and 3 grandchildren, but they all have guns of their own. But I think I will at least leave 1 to each of them. I know a fellow who had all the clan come for some occasion and he took all of his guns that he was going to give them and put a number on each 1 and had a corresponding number in a hat, you pick a number and bingo that is your gun, no fighting that Bob got a nicer gun than me. I thought that a very democratic way to handle things. Now on a lighter note. Happy Thanksgiving to all, we have been blessed beyond measure!!

I have an Octane 45 and love it. I use it on my HK45 tactical, and my 9mm machine gun. Even with supers, the 9mm is hearing safe mag dump after mag dump. Is it as quiet? Nope. does it do its job, yup. Would I buy a dedicated 9mm can? Probably not, but the 45 works on so much stuff. I even use it on my 357 SBR but only to shoot 38s. Fun little gun. Enjoy the 9 can, play with it, and you'll find something to make ya happy

My Dad is 73 and we had the will discussion last week. He's got a modest collection. There's a few I have little interest in, but most have high intrinsic value to me and I look forward to enjoying them with my boys. He's also considering selling his motorcycle due to his knees. Not riding it has ruined the fuel system so it's languishing in his garage at the moment.

I'm about to turn 69. I sold most of my guns 4 years ago and used the money to help me upgrade my old house to a new one on the lake. I don't get around as well anymore and figured I should spend the rest of my days sitting on a boat dock. So far, I have not regretted my decision. I don't have a son or grand kids to leave any guns to and my daughter would rather have the house on the lake. I'm just glad that I sold them before the gun market bottomed out.

This thread is a little depressing. Getting on in age is depressing enough without having to think about downsizing our toy collection. Down market right now, may pick up some when the real campaigning begins. Tupperware guns have flooded the market, reminds me of the old "Saturday Night Special" phase in the gun market. Cheap and everywhere!!!

There comes a point in every man’s life where they need to ponder on what they’ve accumulated and what is going to happen to it. Do you start liquidating while you can and recoup or leave it all to heirs who will let it go for nothing?

I was at the range last week and ran into an old range friend that I haven't seen in quite some time. He's getting into his late 70s and has had some health issues. He told me that he's sold almost all his guns. He can't shoot as well or as often as he used to and his kids don't have any interest in them. This guy used to have quite a large collection. Now he's down to a couple of .22 target rifles, one .22 handgun and one defensive handgun. Frankly I was shocked. He always was a very active shooter and collector. But it did make me stop and think. I'm getting on up there in years and my health is questionable. I'm thinking that not too far down the road, I'll probably be looking at selling too.

Personally I’d like to see him promoted to member.

I'm sure it's a hard thing to come to this conclusion. I'm not there yet, but have seen a lot of the folks I look up to get there. (I'm thankful that so far my reassessment of my collection is mostly to do with focusing more on things I'll want my boys to able to appreciate.) To echo what @DaveTN said, if you can hold them for a year or a bit less you'll probably do much better in terms of how much debt you'll be able to take care of. Feel free to pick our brains if necessary when you're listing things, and thank you for thinking of us first!

Sorry you feel the need to reduce inventory. At 65 although I can still shoot anything fine, I’m facing having to sell my Harley. I can still ride, but I’m tired of listening to friends and family run their mouth about how I don’t ride it much anymore. Brother, not much is selling right now. Tupperware guns if the price is low enough is moving a little. If you can wait until the election next year, they will probably go up substantially. If a Democrat is elected, they will go up a bunch. Also, I think the feds are going to stop private sales. If that happens with warning; sales will skyrocket from the time it passes to when it goes into effect.

Trust me I do honestly feel your pain. I’ve hunted a place like that for many years before I found this place. Over the last 4 or 5 years I stopped fighting the “if I don’t shoot it the neighbors will” and started letting bucks walk that I never would have before. It was a small property but private. Bucks started growing and I was amazed at what a couple years did for them. It still has the same neighbors with the same methodology but I still let the bucks with potential walk and if they get them, I did my part to let them grow. Many (and I mean MANY) days I’d sit out there and not see hardly anything or zero deer. But it was a funnel and eventually bucks made their way in. The place I have now is a blessing and I don’t take one second of it for granted. First year hunting it and still learning travel patterns but I’m loving every learning minute I have and can’t wait to further my knowledge of how to pattern and track movement of the groups of deer.

These two bucks came out and ate 30 yards from me for 45 minutes on the last day of archery season. It tested my patience since they are nice bucks but not what we were after on this farm. The experience was rewarding just seeing them interact with each other. One bedded down for 10 minutes while the other continued eating haha They will be really nice bucks next year though.

My pops got this chocolate 9 point this morning.

Got my personal best this afternoon at 3:00. It was raining steady with 12-14mph winds so the rain was falling diagonal across the field. After passing countless bucks, I could not pass this one up. 4.5 yr old chocolate rack 9 pointer. I’m sure blessed today and so thankful. All the work this year was worth this two minute long encounter with this big feller.

Terrible! I've got no more freezer room for local venison!

Guess this is my lucky day. I just received a Black Friday sale paper from, Bass Pro, which has a Savage Axis X P Bolt action rifle package with a factory mounted, and bore sighted Weaver 3-9x40 rifle scope on it. It is priced, after a 75.00 rebate for 199.97. It comes in 8 calibers. Sounds interesting. Do any of you know anything about the Savage Axis X P rifles?

The one on the left I picked up from the interweb. The rest are from GT