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A good reason not to let people with cocaine in your car....

I thought I would circle back on this! I ended up not shooting them, the reason I did not was because of some of the guidance you fine people provided. What I did was figure out where they were entering the farm, I then got some predator (Coyote) urine and put that down along the entire fence line. I did that twice. No more skunks!

Honestly, if you talk to New Yorkers from Upstate, they hate NYC and their dominance of politics as much as we do! They are just like Illinois. Downstate there is completely different from Chicago and it's suburbs.

The fact is, for the average gun owner there is really no way to know for sure. Most if not all stripped lowers are sold as other, and not pistol or rifle, so unless the original owner assembled it into a rifle, took and posted pictures of it, with SN showing, then there is no way for the ATF to know either. All my lowers get assembled into pistols first, and documented, just for S&G, even if they will be made into rifles for the remaining time I own them.

I know some of you could care less where your guns are made; but many of us do; this discussion is for those members. Buy American, Hire American, America First. More and more we see guns in the bottom feeder category that are American Made. Lets face it, until the last few years the only decent American Made gun that is low cost and wasn’t (arguably) junk was the Hi Point. We have come a long way. The thread about the Stoger and the Canik (both made in Turkey) being under $300 made me think that we have better options for less money; even American Made options. So if you like to buy cheap guns, and want to buy American; now is a good time. Even prices on some of the top quality, best sellers in the Industry have dropped. The SCCY CPX we routinely see selling below $200. It’s currently made in Florida with the company in the process of moving to Tennessee. And it gets good reviews Kel-Tec PF-9 right at $200 and the P-11 just over, and made here. Diamondback at just over $200. New models like the Remington R51 (brought back after a bad start) at just over $200 and the Mossberg MC1SC at around $300; we shall see. Ruger EC9 at around $250 and Security 9 and SR9 at $300. MOSSBERG MC1SC at $300; we shall see. All the Highpoints at around $175. They have a big following… bless their heart. And even Smith & Wesson Shields at $250 and Full Size models dropping below $300!! Proven performers.

Some folks say that AIWB is only for skinny guys to brag about being skinny. I’ve come to realize that it really is the method of carry that allows for the fastest and most efficient draw. It works really well, there’s just one real problem with it. The longer I drive a truck, the bigger my belly gets. I’ve tried multiple AIWB holsters with varying degrees of success between fail to middlin. Some were better than others, but nothing was ever really that comfortable. Now I think I’ve actually found a well made and quite comfortable AIWB holster. It’s made by Tier 1 Concealed. It’s a sidecar style holster that is two pieces attached with a laced bungee cord that allows the two pieces to flex and curve around mah belly. Here’s a few pics of me with, without, and with shirt lifted to show the rig. The gun is an M&P 9 2.0 Compact with a 15 rd in gun and a 17rd as a spare. I can sit down and stand up without it digging into my legs or restricting my movement and making me move like I’m 90 years old because it cut circulation from digging into my thighs. Without gun: With gun: I’m sorry for this next one and its view of my pasty white belly, but it’s useful for showing how it sits in the pants. Here’s pics of the rig by itself.

That was why I bought new and not used. “It was sold to me as a pistol” isn’t going to cut it. I just think people should be aware of that. That’s a heavy charge.

Unfortunately in Illinois Chicago has won. The Democrats have taken the state back. That’s my home (Down State) and I was looking forward to retiring there when my wife retires. But as crazy as it’s getting and her not knowing if she can deal with the winters; now I don’t know. The same thing is happening here.

Most places charge tax. Amazon does. I have heard people say Buds is now, but I haven’t seen it yet, they didn’t last time I ordered from them. Grab a Gun didn’t the time I ordered from them. I wish they all would, so I wouldn’t have to file to pay all those taxes.

Or maybe it was Friday night anyway…. Sometimes you just have to laugh. They were dispatched to an auto burglary in progress. They arrived, saw the perp and took him into custody. Real matter of fact the cop said “I recognized him when I saw him. A couple of months ago he was fleeing a burglary and pointed a replica gun at us; we shot him”. A few minutes later they were searching the car and trying to locate an owner. What did they find? Why another fake gun of course. That same cop said “And if he had pulled this; I would have shot him again”. There is a saying… Being stupid should hurt”. In this case it did; but apparently didn’t work.

Donuts, Barley Pops, and Snickers bars….I don’t see why they were laughing at that. Isn’t that what most of us eat?

Adding a little humor to the big guy appendix carry discussion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag71l93rvao

I used to be uncomfortable with that idea myself, then I realized I’m not a precision marksman.

Thank you Jeb! Yeah, I have heard Tennessee is very friendly and on my short 10 day visit I was impressed by how nice the people were. Nashville, of course, is the big city, and people are never quite as friendly as in the smaller towns. But, even for a big city, it seemed pretty friendly. I really liked the people I met hanging around Murfreesboro. That town had a lot more charm than I expected and I really liked all the old buildings and even the college campus was pretty impressive. Downtown Lebanon really looks historic and pretty impressive. I admire the architecture of the cities in Tennessee. Sadly, they have been demolishing most of the historic buildings in Oregon and Washington to build more ugly condos and apartments. Seattle almost has lost all its historic buildings. Ballard, for example, use to be such a nice quaint (although , a bit gritty and rough around the edges) fishing village with a lot of Norwegian descendants. The Norwegian parade is a big deal there (or it was). Now, its an ugly plastic strip of overpriced condos, apartments and tacky and overpriced restaurants. Colorado has brutal enough winters for me and I would just die living in Minnesota. I don't know the appeal of it. I've also heard friendliness in Minnesota is a little more like that of the Northwest in its friendliness, which is polite and all, but a little aloof. Cold, dreary places tend to promote introverted culture. People in Tennessee seem a lot more social and outgoing to me. Colorado is kind of like a hybrid of Oregon and Wyoming. It is definitely a pioneer state and people are very independent and like to keep to themselves. Not a fan of Denver at all, but I do like Colorado Springs a lot and that area is pretty gorgeous. Although, not a lot to do in the Springs if you are a single guy. Boulder does have some nice scenery, but if you are not a liberal billionaire it is just not worth it. If I was to live in a mountain town, Knoxville is just as scenic as Boulder, a fraction the price and more my taste, anyhow. I found people in Knoxville to be real friendly and love the beauty of Smokey Mountains. And, of course, I am going to take a trip to the new Bud's Gun Shop that is located there I just cannot wait to get out of here. I've been packing up morning until night, since my trip lasted longer than I thought it would and I got to drive a 26 ft rental truck.. Just hope we don't get more monster hail storms like we been having. Two weeks ago, record hail (4.5 in wide) fell on the Colorado/Kansas border and damaged a lot of trucks. Looking forward to getting this dreadful move done with!

In Illinois the State Police had their own Academy, Chicago had their own, and then there was Champaign for the rest of the state. They were all accredited the same. Cops were cops as long as they were standing within the borders of the state. (Or outside the state in pursuit) The only jurisdictional issue we really had was that if we arrested someone, we had to take them to the closest County jail and Court. We couldn’t go to Chicago and arrest a suspect and bring him back downstate, without extradition or them waiving extradition. Of course, when they found out they were headed for the Cook County jail if they didn’t waive; most were happy to go downstate. I know you probably have funny stories about knuckleheads that don’t know the law, but we had Park Rangers in our city parks. This was before the internet and it was going around amongst the kids that if the Park Cops tried to stop you and you ran out of the park; they couldn’t do anything. Or if the Park Rangers were out in the city; they couldn’t stop you. I can’t count the number of times I’ve backed up a Park Ranger and watched a teary-eyed kid watch their car or motorcycle roll off on a wrecker. They would always ask me “Can he do this, is this legal?” I always told them if you are going to become a lawyer on a traffic stop; you probably should know the law. We also had smaller towns around and some thought if you made it from one town to another it was olly olly oxen free. Imagine their surprise.

In Missouri where I was a policeman there were different classes and thus different certifications. A class A county carried the highest number of academy hours required for certification, but an officer in that county had arrest powers anywhere in that county. A police officer in a class B county only had powers in their city/town. That caused some Kansas City, MO police officers some liability exposure because Kansas City's city limits are in four counties, (Jackson, Cass, Clay, and Platte counties), of which only one was a class A county: Jackson. I worked in Clay County which could have been a class A county but they refused that classification for some reason that I was never privy to.

(Quote) We all are, what are some of your suggestions for doing that? My suggestions, good Police investigative work. Most of the mass shooters has a trail on social media. That is a place to start. They also have family members, many of whom have made reports to Police that have gone uninvestigated until stuff happens. Case in point latest shooter. His mother reported him to the Police prior to his carnage. Red Flagg laws, in and of themselves, wont work. Authorities are not utilizing what they have now. Case in Point, momma made call, no follow up. Wham, shooting. Politicians solution, Make it harder to purchase guns and turn his neighbors into watch dogs. WONT WORK TO STOP NEXT SHOOTER. Red Flagg Laws. Judge can take your guns away without due process and on the whelm of a Judge with no review process or way to get them back. Fix the gun show loophole, nix check on ever gun transaction in America, even if you give you son a gun you own. Just another way to know where every gun is in the US so they can come and take them, by force, if a politician wants too. All the politicians are proposing is just another way to chip away at the 2nd amendment and depriving gun ownership, IMO. These laws WILL DO NOTHINNG TO STOP MASS SHOOTINGS. Just make gun tracking and my nosey neighbor my watchdog. SO CALL ME PARANOID! My suggestion, USE THE LAWS THEY HAVE NOW AND PUT THE THUGS IN PRISON ANDKEEP THEM THERE. Suggestion, hire more Police and let them do their jobs. If they mess up, use current laws against them. That is the way it supposed to work. The mental health problem. Who Knows. No one is doing anything to combat this problem at present. They closed all the State Mental Health places because of lawsuits by family members. Took TN 20 years and millions of dollars to get out of that mess. Walla, no mental health help! Don't look like any of the states are getting back into that business soon.

King masquerades as some kind of conservative. NYC's population of 13 million who of over 80 percent are registered Dems have flipped so many up state counties that NY conservatism is toast. Kirsten Gillibrand started out as one of those "conservatives" until she figured out where the NY main stream votes were coming from and Bang! just like that, a Liberal is born! City mentality is quite different from country folks in general. The high ways leading out of the city is so trashed, its a blessing when the first snow covers all the window tossed trash. That's what happens when one is born into place that employs night crews that ride garbage street sweepers. Brain washed with Gov dependencies. Votes that can not be unbought until the libs Real, Realy, screw up big time. But don't ever think its a trend, as soon as a Juliani get things fixed, they go back into Dem mode. Dumber than a box of rocks.

As Chucktshoes stated play nice folks. Personal warning sent to appropriate party.

Just read an article that rated TN as the second most friendly state in the country. Minnesota got first place but there are lots of reasons not to live there so 2nd sounds good enough to me. Welcome 4F

Memphis severed their ties with the First 48 for the same reason. It was kinda odd to me since for all the crime folks like to talk about Memphis having, their closure rate on homicides is very good.

Well my dad got it done this morning. His crossbow messed up so he has been taking mine. No hunting for me but im okay with it. He had an opportunity at a big buck but he forgot to set the stock to fit him. Once he got it right the deer spooked. But this 8 pointer stayed around and he wasn't going to pass him up. Its my dads biggest buck and first ever velvet. Unfortunately within an hour of waiting to go look the coyotes ate him up pretty dang good. Either way it will make for a nice mount and story.

Fox News Increasingly, few if any genuinely safe places exist as a refuge from armed, angry, addicted young men pumped up on violent video games and suffering from the absence of a moral core. Schools, churches, shopping centers, businesses, and almost every place people gather have become targets for deranged individuals who are set on perpetrating evil and in possession of lethal weapons. At what point will we have the courage to acknowledge that our nation has a problem? As a former police officer, this perspective on gun violence is not an academic approach. I’ve encountered armed suspects and dealt with gun-related violence. Restricting the implements of violence while ignoring the causes is futile. Our nation's capital, with some of the most restrictive gun-ownership laws in the country, clearly illustrates this point. Washington has a gun murder rate of 18 per 100,000, and the city's gun-control laws did not protect our organization. Nationwide, as many as 80 percent of gun-related crime involves illegal guns. The best part of the story. John Adams, the second president of the United States, recognized the limitations of our laws. In speaking to the Massachusetts militia, Adams said, "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." Some will be quick to say that nearly 250 years later, America has moved beyond the faith that inspired nation builders. That is a tragedy. Today our culture increasingly marginalizes public faith and religion, pushing it from the public square. But in the process, we've lost public morality, common decency and virtue, which are essential to freedom. To achieve security for our families and communities while preserving the freedom that has made America great, we have only one option: Restore morality by renewing our commitment to the free exercise of religion. In other words, we should protect, not prevent, religious freedom. Link to the story https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tony-perkins-solution-gun-violence-not-what-you-think-former-police-officer

That would be a good idea. But I usually look at the approved dealers listed wherever I’m ordering from, so I don’t have to mess with asking FFL’s to provide copies of their licenses. I usually (if there is time) send them an email or Facebook message to make sure its still okay and verify the price. I really wish I could buy from local dealers; but it is what it is.

Barring the far left that wants total outlawing of all firearms, most Americans are looking at what is reasonable. Doing nothing to stop violent offenders and the mentally ill, once you are made aware, from obtaining firearms is not reasonable. That is the only basis for the 2nd amendment; I keep hearing that anyway. However, a bunch of citizens with semi-auto rifles have a real disadvantage over troops (who for some reason have decided to kill their fellow Americans) with machine guns. Cops aren’t murdering young black men; young black men are murdering young black men. Cops are killing criminals that have guns and are trying to kill them. Or failing to listen and follow instructions when they have a gun in their hand. I would agree that firearms are a high target item in house and car burglaries. A big part of that problem is catch and release. I wouldn’t call them ignorant. We have those sellers that have no way to do a background check and we also have those sellers that are targeting convicted felons. Convicted felons are more than willing to pay new prices for used guns. Yes, the people that would commit mass murder would not seek help. And unfortunately they have family members that don't think they will commit mass murder. Correct, the family unit, morale’s, jobs, and money; all serious problems. Some of us are in the news; OWM are the problem. And we must be dealt with immediately, or at least after we pay for the Green New Deal.

Those kids are so talented it's hard to grasp. I can't imagine the sacrifices their families have made along the way.

With the total panic over anything that looks like a gun. Even children pointing a finger etc. I wonder how long it will be before they notice California is shaped like one of those 30 round shot clips that are so dangerous. Maybe we can cut them loose so the stupid doesn't get to the rest of us.

Open carry is a poor idea any day of the year.

I bought a Taurus G2C 9mm brand new for $185. I know people love to hate Taurus, but I had heard great things about it so I bought one. 1000 rounds later and no issues or failures of any kind. I did replace the polymer guide rod and spring and put in a ss, but that's it. Absolutely love the gun..

What is changing here is that law enforcement is being allowed to do their job instead of having to worry about politics. Why? Because that’s what Americans want. In the past you have had plenty of people that want to argue that “That really wasn’t a threat”, or “He didn’t threaten a specific person, so there is no victim”. Those people are being told to sit down and shut up and the courts and the suspects peers will deal with it. Will it help? Sure, it may stop some shootings. But it won’t stop them. It won’t stop the nut case that doesn’t talk to anyone, and doesn’t post crap on Facebook; like Paddock or Lanza. In the stories I saw in the last few days it seems to me (or maybe I was just feeling guilty) that the press spends more time on how many weapons or ammo the people had, than on what they intended to do.

Meh, size queens.

I've surpassed it. It's one of the things that I excel at!

My luck I'd experience the Golden BB.

I had to Google what "FUPA" means.

I’ve been thinking about designing a holster than can be adjusted 360 degrees AND be thin. I just can’t carry with a gun pointed at my junk. Also, doesn’t it poke into you when you sit down? I’d like an angled Cross draw. But don’t worry if I do design it; I won’t model it. And I obviously won’t ask Elliott to model it either.

I just assumed since the patriot act anyone with a badge was promoted to federal marshal level. I mean the dog catcher in my area carries an AR15

Holy smokes it looks like a “banana clip” !!!

You traumatized me...I thought I was looking in a mirror.....and I thought I had lost weight.....damn.... Nice looking rig.