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We took our first born daughter to a horse show last evening. Didn't get home until 1:00 AM. Got up this morning and opened the curtains, which overlooks our back yard. There sits a large track laying loader. It appears my son-in-law and grandson have decided to build my shooting range in the back yard today. We have 3 acers of land, and in the far left corner, of my back yard, we have a perfect place to put an earthen berm to shoot into. I have several large boulders that need to be moved and some large rock crevasses that needs to be filled, with dirt, so we can have a 100 yard range, and a substantial berm to absorb the bullets in order to provide a good backstop. My last wood backstop lasted 25 years, but is toast now. I guess grandson will clear the area, with the loader, and SIL will haul several large truckloads of dirt today. Oh well another $1,000.00 down the tubes, but will have an excellent firing range afterwards, that should last for years. Son in law's dad has a construction company, and thankfully, I do get the family discount. There is a side note to this venture, grandson wants a good 100 yard rifle range to shoot his Weatherby 06 that Pop Pop laid on him last Christmas. I want to put up some popper plates, square metel plates, and a good backstop, with a very smooth area in front of the berm, so we will be able to move and fire safely. All my family likes to shoot when the come for a visit. We have 4 girls and 6 grandchildren so we can burn some ammo on an outing. Looks like we are in for a busy day.

Who all is going to archery hunt next weekend during the 3 day velvet hunt? Right now it looks like it will be a little cooler but rainy. Of course the forecast will probably change seven times between now and then. I will be up in a tree at least one of the days. Remember it is private land only and antlered deer only. Friday the 23rd through Sunday the 25th.

Yeah, The Book leads me to believe all J-frames of that era had a J or R prefix. It specifically lists the R prefix for Model 32’s and as we see it is a 32-1 with matching grips so that rules out a 1957 model as you already know would be correct for that number with no prefix. J or R, would still make it a ‘73 gun IMO, according to what The Book says, but it is not always right. Rob, you might want to go over to the S&W forum (the blue one that sucks on mobile) and let those guys figure this out.

The non diamond grips indicate it was made after 1968, and the pinned barrel indicated it was made before 1982. To further narrow it down, I believe they ceased production of the Terrier in 1974.

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I know some of you could care less where your guns are made; but many of us do; this discussion is for those members. Buy American, Hire American, America First. More and more we see guns in the bottom feeder category that are American Made. Lets face it, until the last few years the only decent American Made gun that is low cost and wasn’t (arguably) junk was the Hi Point. We have come a long way. The thread about the Stoger and the Canik (both made in Turkey) being under $300 made me think that we have better options for less money; even American Made options. So if you like to buy cheap guns, and want to buy American; now is a good time. Even prices on some of the top quality, best sellers in the Industry have dropped. The SCCY CPX we routinely see selling below $200. It’s currently made in Florida with the company in the process of moving to Tennessee. And it gets good reviews Kel-Tec PF-9 right at $200 and the P-11 just over, and made here. Diamondback at just over $200. New models like the Remington R51 (brought back after a bad start) at just over $200 and the Mossberg MC1SC at around $300; we shall see. Ruger EC9 at around $250 and Security 9 and SR9 at $300. MOSSBERG MC1SC at $300; we shall see. All the Highpoints at around $175. They have a big following… bless their heart. And even Smith & Wesson Shields at $250 and Full Size models dropping below $300!! Proven performers.

I've just been given this by a really good friend (it's good to help out sometimes!) As far as I can tell it's a Model 32 (possibly a Terrier) in .38 s&w That's pretty much all kinds can find online about it. I found a couple on Gunbroker with values that, to me, seem outlandish, but I can't find any dating info for the serial number. It has one number on the butt, that matches inside the grips, but there's a different number on the inside of the crane. Can anyone help me out with dating/value info please? This is my first actual Smith revolver.....

My dads coming in from Michigan to hunt. I hope he gets one of my big boys. I have 4 really nice bucks. Heres my split G2 buck. It would be awesome if he gets him.

I may or may not go out one morning or evening if I have something worth it on camera. A lot of people are really excited at the chance at a velvet deer. I myself don’t get too tore up over it. Don’t get me wrong I think the mounts look nice but I’d rather have a huge buck in hard horn than velvet. I am hoping that the temp stays low for others that hunt wether I do or not. I hope you get a big one KahrMan!

After I killed my first pig I pretty much lost all interest in hunting anything else.

Nice! Cool little gun.

Exactly right. And as he said, thanks for supporting the community.

Evidently the Terrier serial numbers were separate from the rest of the j frames. I knew the model 60 numbers were different, but not the terriers. I’m always learning something. As my memory fades, I find I learn the same things multiple times.

I’m stumped. Between 68 and 74 is close as I can get. I’m sure you already know, but in case someone who reads this might not, the 38 S&W cartridge is not interchangeable with the more popular 38 Special.

I doubt it. Probably R. Editing post now.

Through out the first few digits of the serial # on the butt and I’ll look it up in The Standard Catalog. You might as well get some ammo while it’s available. I think it’s kinda seasonal. https://aimsurplus.com/ammunition/38-s-w/

I’d go with JHP. A robbery situation where you would be justified in shooting someone in a car that wasn’t fleeing would be less likely than needing to make a gunman standing within feet of you unwilling or unable to fire his weapon at you.

LOL! Like a sponge. It's like a low grade pine or something. I have an AK that sports plywood furniture.

The big takeaway is: what do do if you pass first!

I'm only a casual observer at best regarding the NRA, but even I could read enough between the lines of the current scandals to know that the whole organization has been hemorrhaging funds in the various kickbacks, payoffs, insider scams, and other billing and compensation schemes ...

DDI was a Knoxville outfit as was Waffen Werks. Neither means doodly-squat now, but DDI did make some quality AK’s. Never buy a used PSA AK. They mistakenly started out with cast parts, like many other American makers, and is typical of them, they go through a couple of “gens”. Looks like they are now using forged parts, at least if you pay a little more.

All right, trying the broken link again: http://psychology.usf.edu/faculty/data/ddiamond/Research_on_Why_Parents_Forget_Children_in_Hot_Cars.pdf This article might have a more succinct version of the same researcher's findings: https://www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/anyone-could-forget-kids-in-hot-car-forgotten-baby-syndrome/ From the BMJ article previously cited: So more people unintentionally left their kids in hot cars than those that intentionally did so. I think it is safe to assume that the people who killed their kids while they went to play video poker or smoke meth fall in the "intentional" category, and a large number of the "unintentionally forgotten" children were by probably stable people. The fact that they normally took the kids to daycare and had jobs suggests at least some stability. Also, if you browse the various news interviews of people who killed their kids this way, they generally seem like normal people. My point is, we can't just say "Don't leave your kids in the car, stupid!" That's like telling someone with depression to stop being sad. First we must understand the epidemiology, and then formulate solutions. I wonder about details such as did these parents use one of those mirrors that lets you see the child in the carseat? I rarely take our daughter anywhere in my car, but when I do, I can always see her due that type of mirror. Other things that might seem like minutia but could be important for preventing the problem--are the rear windows tinted? which way does the car face when parked at work? are kids in third row seats more likely to be unnoticed? I see it similar to the four rules of gun safety--I don't intend to ever need them, yet I practice them always, and I'm sure some of those people who shot themselves with "unloaded" guns wish they had done the same. This page might interest some of you: https://www.kars4kids.org/safety-app/itcanhappen/survey.php

And now for the rest of the story... https://www.syracuse.com/crime/2019/08/cny-homeowner-who-shot-killed-2-intruders-has-charges-dropped.html The charges were dropped and the house was condemned because it was a dump that had no electricity or running water. No doubt charging him for possession of the gun was just plain wrong, but thankfully cooler heads prevailed.

There's a bit of a story behind the Raven. I saw a for sale ad several years ago. Guy said it had feed problems and make an offer. I got it for $20. Took it home, turned the firing pin around the way it should be and its worked like a champ ever since. A week or so later my best friend dropped by and I showed it to him. His reaction was "I want this! Sell it to me!" So I let him have it for what I paid. After he passed, his wife and I were going through the gun safes when I ran across it again. I handed his wife $20 and stuck it in my pocket. I doubt I'll ever sell it again.

I hate cleaning AR's more than shotguns but it gets done, lol.

Well well well! Now she said I can have the bigger 70.3 downstairs. Yeah yer!!!!

I've been a handgunner for over sixty-five years, and during that time I've tried just about every kind of handgun available. I've has Colts, Rugers, Smith & Wessons, and Ubertis. For my preferences, prefer the Colt New Frontier when I have the wherewithal, next a Ruger Blackhawk. I've had the Smith Model 28 and Model 29, Colt Python, etc. I have recently settled on the Ruger Blackhawk, not only for range/hunting use, but for protecting my hide. I carry a Ruger Blackhawk in .45 Colt almost daily. My everyday companion is a .45 in a Mike Barranti holster. Bob Wright

A little progress has been made on this project. I've been side tracked in the shop doing other things. The melamine top has been cut. Not yet secured... Also, I'm sure you can't miss the Dillon mount has been built. Doweled, glued and screwed. Quite strong. I still need to clear lacquer it. Also still need to finish the rock chucker mount. I have all the pieces cut already. I had some tongue and groove hardwood boards left over from previous owners (no idea where they used them, but not in the house). So I cut the tongue off, leaving the bevel, then stained and lacquer cleared one. Came out better than I need or deserve, so I am proceeding with making the rest of the fascia cap boards. They are not the finest specimen boards, and I could have sanded the first one better, but oh well. Good enough. I might remove the first one and put it on the back side of the bench...I think the second one will be a bit nicer. The one sitting on top just got stained today and is drying before the lacquer clear coats are applied. I also procured the hardware to mount the press mounts to the table top. I 3D printed some hand wheel knobs for the 3/8" bolts... ~Bandit

I've always had problems shooting the traditional Colt style single actions. They just don't fit my slightly arthritic hands and the trigger guard beats hell outta my middle finger knuckle. I just can't shoot one worth a hoot . But like you, I occasionally get the urge for a Cowboy gun. I've owned about a half dozen Colt style or Ruger single actions over the years and ended up selling them all. Try thinking outside the box. I found this a few years ago. A true cowboy gun that fits me much better and the only single action I currently own. Its a bit above your price range, but its a keeper. Navy Arms (Uberti) Schofield

That RUGER WRANGLER at $199 has to give Heritage a sinking feeling. I suspect the saving grace will be that the Rugers will be hard to get.

BRAVO SIERRA, the birts came for cannon and shot. Taking away ammo be it lead or what ever is an attack on the 2nd!

Please let me be the first to call bull$hit on that. Bear in mind it's living along the largest concentration of wolves, badgers, bears, lions & corvids in the lower 48, how much carrion containing lead fragments must the thing have had to have eaten in it's life. A bird that is primarily a hunting raptor & not a scavenger, to boot. Over an average lifespan of 30 years (Google) that single bird must've eaten just about every single carcass shot within 30 miles of Yellowstone AND been unlucky enough to have found every trace of lead, from every bullet. I'm sorry, but the math simply doesn't work for me. Further studies have shown that actually consuming the average quantity of lead found in a recovered animal carcass, on a regular basis, has literally ZERO effect on (human) health. Think about it....the average hunting bullet out west (primarily big .30s & 7s) weighs 180gn, give or take. If a recovered bullet retains 50% of it's mass (low estimate) & 50% of shots are passthroughs (SUPER low estimate...) statistically speaking, the average uncovered mule deer, antelope or elk, weighing a (WAG) average of 300lb therefore contains 45gn of bullet. Call 5gn of that jacket & you've got 40gn of lead. The average critter is around 50% edible meat, innards & skin. Therefore the average pound of meat contains 0.0000380952gn of actual lead. The average golden eagle eats ½ to 1lb of meat per day (Google), split the difference & call that ¾lb, so 0.00002857140gn of lead per day. At an average lifespan of 10950 days, that's a total of 0.31285683gn of lead in it's entire life. That's 1.75 No.12 shot, to put it in reasonable terms. A hair under a third of a grain of lead, in it's entire life. I'm calling a hard "BOLLOCKS" on the whole deal.....

Being a lefty I have always appreciated the safety location on the Mossbergs. Those shockwaves look like they would be a great truck gun too. A shotgun would complement the AR and pistol in there should one stumble across an impromptu 3 gun match downtown.

I don’t know but they hold cosmoline very well.

They were several Berettas, Walthers, and a couple Belgian made guns. Honestly I dont recall them all. They did leave a couple older rusted things behind. So I guess there is that Sadly he did have a will, Leaving all his possessions to me including some bullion (stolen as well). But this is the kind of thing you find that folks are unscrupulous and greedy. They stripped the house and garage of all valuables. They spent the couple days after his death destroying or removing the paper trail of receipts, bank records, photographs, and erasing memory cards left behind after removing the electronic devices. They knew we could not prove what was there at the time of his passing, or that they were the ones who removed them. Clearly planned, which gives insight into the kind of people we are talking about. Obviously a lot more details behind this, but suffice it to say its a big ugly mess, The big learning was that is it NOT a criminal offense to steal from an estate if you can claim you are related. Weak family linkage means you can steal what you want if a homeowner dies. In these cases you are left to the character of the people involved, and the legal system does not protect you from "family" if hey are devoid of character.

From what I can tell watching live PD, you and I might be two of the nine people in the country that have a DL thats legit.