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I am giddy. Working as hard as I can to get my dedicated climate controlled reloading space up a working.... without dying in the friggin heat! Here's a 3D model of my plan. The A frame looking things are press mounts. They will be made of Maple ply (will stain) and patterned from this guys mount: https://rickaverill.com/projects-past-and-present/dillon-rl-550b-mount/ Instead of hard mounting direct to the bench, I am using tee nut inserts (screw mount, not the 3 pokey prong style), like this guy did: https://www.flickr.com/photos/93396776@N06/albums/72157663547333758/with/27602044619/ That way the presses and smaller tools (case trimmer, manual charge thrower etc) can easily be removed leaving the bench free and clear of semi permanent obstructions for cleaning/smithing etc. The bench has an underlay of OSB and will have a white Melamine top with fascia caps boards around the perimeter. They will sit about 1/4" above the working surface to stop rolling things (cases, projectiles etc) from bailing off.

I know some of you could care less where your guns are made; but many of us do; this discussion is for those members. Buy American, Hire American, America First. More and more we see guns in the bottom feeder category that are American Made. Lets face it, until the last few years the only decent American Made gun that is low cost and wasn’t (arguably) junk was the Hi Point. We have come a long way. The thread about the Stoger and the Canik (both made in Turkey) being under $300 made me think that we have better options for less money; even American Made options. So if you like to buy cheap guns, and want to buy American; now is a good time. Even prices on some of the top quality, best sellers in the Industry have dropped. The SCCY CPX we routinely see selling below $200. It’s currently made in Florida with the company in the process of moving to Tennessee. And it gets good reviews Kel-Tec PF-9 right at $200 and the P-11 just over, and made here. Diamondback at just over $200. New models like the Remington R51 (brought back after a bad start) at just over $200 and the Mossberg MC1SC at around $300; we shall see. Ruger EC9 at around $250 and Security 9 and SR9 at $300. MOSSBERG MC1SC at $300; we shall see. All the Highpoints at around $175. They have a big following… bless their heart. And even Smith & Wesson Shields at $250 and Full Size models dropping below $300!! Proven performers.

The state of NJ needs a high pressure Hoppe's No. 9 enema.

I saw this on the way to the Mennonite store this morning and thought I'd share.

I would start out by listening to the episode of the Shooters Nation podcast where @TGO David interviews the head security gentleman at his Church. There is a lot of good info in that episode.

Thanks! I'll be sure to pass both of those things along to her.

Thanks for the podcast! Speaking of which, two things. I really enjoy when @TGO Sandy is on the show. Also, congrats to the two of y’all for the recent news.

If you are not a dealer, it's not likely a dealer will send you a copy of their FFL. You'll have to send a copy of your TN DL with the gun so the dealer can log it in.

Existing permits will become the enhanced permit.

I got a crossbreed crossover belt about a year ago and it has been an absolute champ. with infinite adjustment options you can really fine tune your belt size to your gun/holster or what you had for lunch. Highly recommend this one. https://www.crossbreedholsters.com/belts/crossover-gun-belt.html

Looking good Bandit!

DaveTN….hadn't thought about that perspective. Makes sense, but still hate the sign law. My push would be ECP = local LEO carry FWIW.

Hurry up and wait. Easy for them to say huh?

As a whole….I think to be realistic it requires more than a passing commitment by those involved. Many facets would be involved. The thing I see lacking is most church security info is live fire training. A bunch of old guys with pistols in their pockets is not (IMO) “better than nothing”; it is worse. You need to try (as best you can) to set-up working as a team. That involves mock scenarios and what each person should do. I think there are trained professionals that offer their services free, or at a low cost to churches. I’d have a conversation with the local Police Chief or Sheriff about training; you might be surprised what they are willing to offer. Legal training is also required. You must all understand the use of deadly force laws in this state. As a former cop my recommendation for this is always the local DA. Their interpretation of the law is the only one that matters, as far as someone being charged with a crime. Civil liability is also a big deal, not only for the church, but for all of you collectively, and individually. A good local attorney that handles those type of cases would be where I would start. We live in litigious times, so that will be open ended about what could happen. It’s good that you are doing this for your church and your community.

Typical Tenn law. Have to make it so confusing and unable to understand. How easy would Constitutional carry be to understand? Have to keep the peons dazed and confused. Money for the lawyers would dry up if all laws were easy to understand, hence the reason they are written to confuse , even lawyers cannot agree on what they mean.

Big money ALWAYS attracts big thieves. I've given the NRA a lot of money over the last 40 years (Benefactor member) but I find I've been screwed over once again by someone I trusted. I'm tired of people.

We had a recent conversation about the current state of affairs of the NRA and of course recorded it for you all. Listen here: https://www.shootersnation.com/podcast/0057-the-national-rifle-association-nra-dumpster-fire-part-one/

Great podcast, very informative. Thank you for sharing.

Have the local power company come out and run a test on your transformer and inlet lines. Sometimes there are problems with the supply voltage, leakage, etc. which can be worsened by storms and routine surges.

I had a 1970 charger. It had a little over 600 hp back in the day when 450 was a big deal. At 150 mph a lone cop gives up. LOL

Let's just say I don't live next door to a convenience store, so being prepared is a way of life for us.

I always require a BOS and proper ID to buy or sell. This is simple CYA. These days you can't be too careful. Its always best to know where the gun came from or who it went to just in case LE should ever come around asking questions. Ya never know.

I hand you cash and you hand me the gun. That is how it's done in Tennessee.

I always post "ID / BoS" Pretty sure this eliminates most of non-qualified owners from inquiring. A stranger, yep, let's see valid TN ID and sign. Well known to me or someone on TGO, if you want to, sure, if you want to opt out, sure.

Quoting to emphasize the bolded bit. I’m generally opposed to a BOS, but were I a buyer, I’d be ok with signing the BOS @DaveTN posted. The one you have, I wouldn’t. I’m ok with giving someone a name and phone number, even showing them ID/HCP to prove residency. I’m not ok with giving someone my DL#, address, and pretty much all the info needed for identity theft. You have the right to ask for whatever information you wish to feel comfortable making a sale, but the buyer can also decline to provide it so it’s wise to make sure everyone is on the same page prior to agreeing to a sale and meeting up.

It’s twue! When I worked overnights, your 8am was my 8pm. I’d be passed out drunk by not long after noon.

As much as we joke about earthquakes hitting California and it sliding off into the Pacific, I would be happy if they never suffered another one. Every time there’s an earthquake in California someone decides to move East. I don’t want them to move East, I want them to stay right where they are.

I'd tell them to use the money they haven't paid back for the cancelled high speed rail system

Welp, I’ve had several beers now and this idea of combining my beers and coffee is sounding better all the time. I think it could possibly make for a more enjoyable day. I did do a search for this product on their web site. There are no purchase options for this product within 100 miles. So ….. making this change tomorrow probably is not going to happen. Time to go watch the Fireworks and see if the Donald has those tanks rolling through DC yet.

Fixed it for you.

Boy, are you out of the loop...

I can’t wait to get a Yeet Cannon for myself. This is morning I delivered across the street from the S&W factory in Springfield, MA. Sadly, tours were not available.

That’s what happens at my house. Minus the beautiful graveside service of course.

Every time I see a Tisas thread come around I get a little itchy.