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May the Fourth was great, today is definitely Revenge of the Fifth, I'm a wee bit sore from all the frivolities of yesterday. Best part - we had a first time attendee, both with Randy and the Group as well as his first class with an instructor. His biggest concern going in, anxiety from the fear of the unknown. He claimed at the end class, he felt welcome and very comfortable with us and is planning on attending future classes. Being a rifle class, we were shooting at 50 - 100 yards, on 1/3 IDPA steel targets. Changes the perspective to 150 - 300, or as Randy told me, "that may be your actual target size at 50-100 if the BG is using cover / concealment. 7 ARs represented, no two alike, and one Mini-14. I was very please with my SW MP Sport 2. Upgrades include a Magpul grip, Burris FastFire3 with mount, and $3.99 1" Allen sling. The budget sling worked fine, but a heavier duty 1 1/2" sling would be a good investment. Started with dry fire and manipulations from standing, kneeling, and prone. Valuable for me being left handed and low time with the AR. I think I want to add an ambi charging handle. Worked totally from pockets, specifically 5.11 pants. The cargo pocket can hold 2 mags and I can access pretty easily. They are not secured as Velcro can't be fastened. I didn't have one fall out from changing my up / kneel / prone position or moving to and fro between shooting stations. The back slash pocket makes it easy (for me) to stow mags and re-access if partially depleted and I just shot to slide lock. Note to above, shooting 1 1/2 mags and needing to reload with your first mag in a civilian defensive rifle gun fight will get you on the national news and probably into the encyclopedia. Sights and Optics I did shoot a few rounds from my M1 carbine, the front blade was about as wide as 1/3 IDPA targets at 50. Hit it a few times, so I feel pretty good about myself. I have a 3 moa dot and it makes a difference for my aging eyes. If I did more rifle shooting and routinely shot to 100+, I would probably invest in a some kind of dot / magnifier setup. As it sits now, just the FF3 and mount represents $300 - $400 on a $499 rifle. Breathing is hard. Many of the afternoon drills included changing position and shooting stations, as quickly as you cared to go. I put forth some effort and got my out of shape hamster running on his wheel. Here's what happened to me when I was "ready" to shoot after I got into stable platform - that little dot was moving in time with the hamster. Deep breath and exhale, and again, and again and...what are you waiting for, Alice? Very eye opening, if I must take that long shot, what's around and beyond my target? I do need to work on my standing form and best placement of my support arm and hand. A 30 round AR mag can hold 31, just in case you lose count when topping off. Great way to carry an extra bullet, but they don't function too well. Best practice, count and load 27 or 28. Slinging my rifle to transition to pistol. Very comfortable flipping the sling over my head and allowing the rifle to drop down my back. Once I was confident with the action and where the rifle ended up, I was good to go. For this class, when I was shooting, the rifle was not attached to my body via sling. Gave me the ability to switch rifle to right side and shoot one handed. Not optimal. Drop it on the ground (I did) better, two handed pistol grip, but less than optimal, do I really want to "leave" my rifle anywhere? This was a good class for me, with the nature of the targets, there was less range valet'ing and more opportunities for me to shoot. I learned how to run this rifle and what my current skill level is.

Look up Cruel Hand Luke on this forum. Teaches all level courses and is highly recommended.

The 19x and the 45 is Glock’s version of the 4.25/4 inch “Commander” 1911s.I too have wanted one of them since they were announced.The balance is perfect and since I have a 17 and a 34 I won’t have to buy different mags.

Not enough information to decide if she is defending herself or is an attacker. I would never stand by and watch as innocent people were being killed; if I was sure of what I was seeing. The Islamic dress is meaningless to me.

Happy Sunday! May the peace of the Lord Jesus Christ be with all of you!! This is a wonderful statement from a man who experienced loss through the violence of murder: Thompson continued, saying God "freed me, He freed my heart, He freed my soul and body of the burden of bitterness, rage, anger, and malice. He healed me from the inside out, and I’m here to tell you that He took away all my burdens and gave me peace, peace you can have tonight." and his story https://pjmedia.com/faith/echoing-jesus-this-black-pastor-forgave-the-white-supremacist-who-murdered-his-wife/

Agreed, but $450 M39’s are more difficult to find ...

There’s no incremental gains here. It’s a bad bill that will result in a net loss for folks who carry in and out of the state. All for some politicians to be able to make a claim of being pro-2A while not having the desire nor the balls to actually put forth and advance actual pro-2A legislation.

This is a very true statement. I've said before that I believe that we, as gun owners, are absolutely our own worst enemies. The other side is united under the banner of their hatred of guns and desire to see us disarmed. Everything else to them is academic. They don't care how it happens or what it looks like, and are usually satisfied with incremental wins. We, on the other hand, tend to be so anti-authoritarian that nothing but a perfect decision is palatable and none of us agree on the mechanics of any victory no matter how small. I think the biggest difference between the current generation of Constitutionalists and our Founding Fathers is that they tried hard to put the greater good before self. That's a shameful indictment of our modern mindset.

Hi, Everyone! It's @Tiffany Johnson here from Citizens Safety Academy. Our last NRA Women on Target instructional shooting clinic sold out, and we had a blast! We've got another one coming up next month in Murfreesboro. Any female (teen to senior) who might be interested in learning a little more about handgun safety and operation is welcome to join us. Doesn't matter if you're new to guns, an experienced shooter, on the fence, or completely terrified -- all ladies who can be safe are welcome. NRA Women on Target Date: Saturday, June 15, 2019 Time: 8am to 1pm Location: Citizens Safety Academy, 752 E. Northfield Boulevard, Murfreesboro, TN 37130 (with live-fire done at the OK Corral) Cost: A modest, measly, mere $45 - and that includes a bag of souvenirs! Click here to download the flyer. Click here to see photos from our last WOT clinic More Info and Registration: https://citizenssafety.com/event/women-on-target-jun-2019/#section-course-details/ (or you can register on Eventbrite) Contact Email: Tiffany@CitizensSafety.com We'll go over the fundamentals with an emphasis on safety rules, and then we'll relieve a little stress on the range. No judgment, no pressure, no intimidation, no egos, and no politics. We hope you'll join us for a morning of empowerment as we strive to keep all Women on Target!

I guess making people pass a driving test to be able to legally drive on public roads is an unreasonable imposition too? If people who have no interest in learning how to properly handle and use a firearm want to "bare arms" on their own property they are not really a danger to anyone but their own family (and maybe their next door neighbors). But if they then decide to carry out in the world then they now will potentially effect everyone out in public "down range" from them. If they don't know how to safely handle a gun on a "one way square range" is it really a great idea for them to try to learn it on the fly on a 360 degree "hot range" which is what the outside real world is. Fortunately we do not see many instances of accidental discharges reported (but how many people actually report that though?) but I do know of one in Chattanooga where a young woman was killed when a negligently discharged bullet came through the wall of her apartment and hit her. And before anyone thinks they are going to "question my commitment to the cause" I have carried a gun on my person on a daily basis an average of about 360 days a year for the last 26 years (before some people on this forum were even born). If I'm awake I'm armed unless I have to go through a metal detector or unless I am outside the US in a country where I can not take my gun. I have actually used a gun to defend myself in public. I'm a founding member of my church's security team. I've spent 20 years working in the firearms industry. I am an NRA member, I'm an NRA instructor. I am a TN Handgun Carry Permit Instructor who started teaching the class in 1999. I have voted against anti gun candidates in EVERY single election since I turned 18 in 1990 and I not only shoot competitively as a hobby but also teach people to shoot and to defend themselves with firearms while working for a nationally recognized training company for the last 15 years. And before you even say it ...no... "profit motive".... is not the reason I suggest people actually learn how to safely and effectively handle firearms before they carry them in public. It is simply what conscientious adult humans do. They do not potentially willfully, arrogantly and ignorantly endanger themselves and others out in public. I get it. We all want the 2A to be an absolute written on stone tablets handed down from on high never to be infringed with law of the land. But the other side of that is the old "with power comes responsibility" thing. IF you are going to carry loaded guns in public you really should also be civically minded enough to learn how to use and safely handle them. Not just so that you are far more likely to actually effectively hit the bad guy in a lethal force incident but also so that you are far less likely to hit anyone OTHER than the bad guys.... or not hit yourself or others accidentally from a negligent discharge while handling the gun. (We saw something a while back where some guy shot and killed himself holstering his pistol while sitting in his car. ) I come down on this side of the argument. People have an absolute GOD GIVEN natural law of nature right to defend themselves. Period. On the other hand if they are using projectile weapons that can kill or wound people outside their physical reach they REALLY need to learn the safe handling of the weapon and proper use of it. On their own property they are far less likely to endanger others. Out in public now everyone within range of the weapon is potentially in danger if the carrier does not know how to safely handle the gun they are carrying. Part of being an adult is recognizing the world does not revolve around us and that other people are effected by our decisions and actions. As such it is imperative that we (as defenders of the 2A and frankly just as conscientious adults) learn to safely handle objects that can cause crippling injury and death if we are going to carry them and possibly use them out in public. What I'd rather see than this watered down sad attempt at "pro gun legislation" is a 2 tiered system where a minimal amount of safe gun handling is covered and a minimal accuracy standard is required for the "basic permit" and that might be only $25-$50 ....or heck maybe even free ? (not sure how that unfunded mandate would be carried out). Then have a REAL enhanced permit that requires a bit more training that really is actually ENHANCED where you can carry ANYWHERE (signs or not) and go about your daily life without having to worry about whether it is OK to carry here or there or in this business or that business or in this park or that. At a bare minimum they should remove any legal penalty for carrying past signage for people with a permit. The signs have never stopped the bad guys from carrying so why should the good guys be disarmed if the bad guys are not and if the location is not providing armed security and limited access? If businesses don't like it they can still "trespass" you if they ask you to leave and you don't. THAT would be an actual PRO 2A piece of legislation.

A couple of weekends ago ...... My precious grandchildren (8 and 10) with their joint birthday presents from “Pa” ...... their own Daisy’s.

I really like mine a lot. Like any inexpensive gun I suppose they can be hit or miss but mine is definitely a hit, especially for what it is. That said, I bought mine before Heritage was bought out by Taurus so I can't speak to any changes, if there have been any, since then. I did notice in the Black Friday ad that someone posted in another thread yesterday that Cabela's is supposed to have a 9 shot version with 'black pearl' style grips and with the .22LR cylinder only for $129 (used to be able to order WMR cylinders directly from Heritage but, again, I don't know if that is still the case.) This was from a few years ago at the Spring Creek Shooting Range. As a lark - and because I had been consistently hitting hanging metal plates that were at 50 yards - I emptied a cylinder at a (large) target at 100 yards. Walked out to get the target and realized I had managed to put two holes in the paper, at the edge. As I and the folks I was shooting with were the only people there at the time I decided to try and 'dial it in' to see what I could do. The colored circles and the legend that interprets them tells most of the rest of the story. I was shooting off hand (I stink at shooting from a rest) in more or less a Weaver stance with a two hand hold using the factory iron sights. We didn't have a spotting scope so I was walking 100 yards out and 100 yards back between each cylinder full to check the target and trying to remember my POA relative to POI from the previous cylinder full so I could make 'Kentucky windage' adjustments. I only shot three cylinders full partly because I was tired of walking out and back and partly because I decided to quit while I was 'ahead' on the third cylinder. This is the only handgun I own with which I have ever attempted a 100 yard shot. In the hands of a better shooter I think the results could be downright impressive. For perspective and to give an idea of target size, my Rough Rider is a 6.5 inch barreled model. Mine is also a 6 shot model (they weren't even making the 9 shot at the time.)

I had one once but sold it. Probably should have kept it. They have some sort of potmetal frames, and are cheaply made, but the one I had had a much smoother action and trigger than my Ruger, and was scary accurate. A lot of gun for $100.

They did, at infancy and obviously at puberty