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Apples and oranges, Dave. A new 870 does not compare to the quality or an old Ithaca or Winchester.

Has anyone tried one of these .22/410 combos ? They're cheap enough to perk my interest. https://www.chiappafirearms.com/f.php?id=12

From a Savage Model 24 owner..I take offense to that. Lol Despite the crappy lighting, I think my Model.24 is quite nice. Of course it is a .30-30 over 20ga. I find that more versitile than the .22/.410 models. Just like the Hatfield shotguns, I am not sure I am keen on a folding gun. I think these are Italian and the Hatfield is Turkish though.

Update.... Pulled the ignition switch, plastic box on left side of steering column opposite of ignition key. I jumped two random holes in the harness I disconnected and it cranked! Thinking its that plastic box ignition switch wore out or the the keyed part of the ignition not activating the switch properly. The keyed part has a shaft and plactic pin the turns and pushes where it fits into the ignition switch. Ignition switch is a $30 part. Ill try that first......Actually 2nd as I replaced neutral safety switch already. Reminds me of my Army parts changer days... Seems like sometimes we kept changing parts till it fixed the problem. Uncle Sam has deep pockets though.

@gfd_703You mean like this one that's in Nashville no less? https://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/110768-wilson-combat-edc-x9-railed-ambi-grayblack/

I very much believe the whole thing. I am just willing to look at it as the story of God's people - and not necessarily have to have it be a scientific text. I might even go further to say that I'm willing to believe in divine revelation even when human authors, translators, preachers, and readers are imperfect. For example - take the King James Bible that is generally revered by the most conservative traditions. Those traditions that still regularly use it do so because they believe that it is the "purest" English translation. Modern vernacular arguments aside - did you know that the original 1611 version of the King James included several books of the Apocrypha? In fact every version up until 1666 did - and they were included in most versions up through 1885. They were already debated at the time. Jerome labels them as such in the 4th century - even though they were in the Jewish Septuagint. Really he keeps them because St. Augustin talks him into it. Post-reformation, they're really removed (despite a big war being fought) because the protestants would really like to appear less Catholic. There's a lot more here - and it's an interesting bit of history I recommend - but there are some pieces not in most Bibles today because one tradition wanted to look less like another tradition. What do we do with that? All of our translations are problematic. The best translators are upfront about the decisions they make and why they've made them. But, they're admitting that their translation of the text is imperfect because of the lack of ability to express ancient languages across into something accessible by the reader. Does God still speak to us through imperfect translations? What about through imperfect understandings of ideas? I read an article the other day that made a compelling case for needing a second person plural in our translations - basically the Bible needs "y'all" and "all y'all" because we don't have the words in English do describe a Greek plural "you." As such, we mistake "you" in some cases to speak to us individually when we should be reading it "y'all" to speak to us as a community. I guess I say all of this to say that I can continue to believe without a full understanding - and even an imperfect one. I pray that God will be graceful with all of us...

Yep. Sounds like a bad connection in the key switch.

I’m thinking that retirement has presented you with way too much time on your hands and the lack of focused direction is causing your thinking to get a bit fuzzy.

I guess the price of a pump shotgun will go through the roof now that you're looking for one. At least that's what happened with 39 Smiths!

Grandma paid me, at home mom and dad made me. Some noise about responsibility, etc, etc, lol.

Looks like Ruger is going budget to compete with the Heritage Rough Rider with a new revolver called the Ruger Wrangler. Aluminum cerakoted in three color combos to start. MSRP is $250. Looks like I'll be selling a rough rider and upgrading to a Ruger for my niece and nephew. https://ruger.com/products/wrangler/models.html

My younger son and I visited this store today for the first time. What I found there were two of the most helpful, kindest, and friendliest guys I've met in years. This, in addition to the really cool and valuable guitars I got to see there made it a great experience. Just a heads up for TGOers. If you need your axe worked on, or if you'd like to purchase a top shelf instrument, this is the best place I can imagine to start your quest. The education I received there alone was worth more than the money I spent.......and they may or may not have sent us home with a Les Paul.

You have restored my faith in your sanity. Lol

and it was the last part that fixed it, to bad I could never change the last part first.

I was referring to the Savage 42.

I have actually, yes. The .22 barrel was pleasantly accurate at 50yds with CCI mini mags, however the shotgun barrel threw a pattern at 25yds you could moonwalk through. Triggers were good, action was 'break over my knee' stiff. It wasn't my gun & it kinda put me off making one mine. 2½/5 stars. I only tried it because I ALWAYS wanted a Savage 24 for small game in .22mag/20ga & the new plastic version is just...eew. Like........eew.

The Savage 24 is definitely better looking.

Or an income. You don't trade away nice things.....you accumulate them.

Fukushima chicks ?

Yall should see the looks I am getting laughing so hard in a Subway!

You know instead of buying one of these illegal auto sears you could accomplish a similar feat by using a bump stock....oh wait..... thanks Trump....lol

I expect this is be a very big success. I’ve never been a fan of single action revolvers, but at under $200; I might give one a try. Good for Ruger. Single Action, Aluminum alloy, Cerakote. Already being offered at $199 on a pre-order so the price will probably drop even lower. Ha, Ha, Ha, that was exactly my first thought when I saw the email today.

For the first time in over 20 years I am carrying something other than a Kahr. For the last two days I have been carrying a Glock 19. It is definitely not as comfortable as my PM45 but it holds 15 + 1 instead of 5 + 1. I also just picked up a Glock 48. I will also carry that to see how it compares. I really like the way the thinner grips of the 48 feel in my hand. I need to get to the range with the 48 before I carry it though.

Welcome to the club. I love the bird pic.

There we go...fixed.

I think that one would be overwhelmed with their situation to where they wouldn't even ask those kind of questions. He does promise that He has things in store for us that we can't even imagine. God does say that, to paraphrase, we must have a child-like faith. Children accept what they are told by their parents. I've thought that the science versus God argument was irrelevant. Science tries to explain reality whereas God defines it.

I am not a mechanic, but possibly the ignition switch itself?

New grips and holster arrived this week. Excellent work from Tucker Gunleather. Holster from TT Gunleather should arrive in a few days!

What you said about the start button. I had to rig up a truck I had years ago like that. I wish I could tell you how to solve your problem.

I would rather take my chances in bear country.

It's easier to justify this rig if you visit Memphis on a weekend.

I kinda like them. They aren't beautiful, but they are workman like.

I am hardly a biblical scholar, but I don’t quite grasp the concept of selective belief in the Bible. The Bible speaks against adding or taking away from the text. From my (perhaps simplistic) perspective either you believe in the Bible or you don’t. If you selectively believe in certain portions you believe in something other than the Bible. Of course each one of us has that choice to make and I am fine with it (wouldn’t matter if I wasn’t) as we’ll all be held accountable for our beliefs. Of course I recognize many may differ in their opinion as to the consequences of those beliefs. In any event, I agree with greggintenn in that the Biblical era may well have had a different concept of time. I also wonder about the veracity of carbon dating. Circling back to the Bible (for you believers), how old was Adam at the time of his creation? Clearly not an infant. I see no reason why the earth could not have been created at a mature age or some age other than that of “an infant.” As peejman said, we’ll have the time to figure it out... For all you gamblers and non-believers out there look up Pascal’s wager.

Just when I thought a Ruger couldn't get any uglier...

Yeah, I need to tighten it up under my binos I think. I'll try it with my hunting clothes, & pack & have a proper play around with the adjustment. I'll have more time this weekend to fiddle around... It's a friction fit. I wish it snapped into place, but it does have an adjustable retention screw. Even completely undone I can't shake it out. I tried like hell to 'snag' it loose when it's adjusted up & I can't get it to unintentionally come free.

John Moses Browning

I did. But I also bought my own mower and cut 3 to 4 a day all summer long.

Check the classifieds.It May be your lucky day. I don’t know anyone in Nashville

If you aren't set on new, I'd recommend a model 12 Winchester or a model 37 Ithaca.

You might want to check out Royal Range in Bellevue. I know they several Ed Browns and some other high end 1911's but can't remember which ones. https://www.royalrangeusa.com ROYAL RANGE USA 7741 HIGHWAY 70 SOUTH, NASHVILLE, TN, 37221 (615) 646-9333 RETAIL@ROYALRANGEUSA.COM

I could make a reasonable argument for both sides, but at the end of the day God doesn't give a crap what I think.

Its been an issue for many years. Many state hunting laws address it; its not something new. Yes, at some point lead will probably be outlawed for hunting. Something will take its place. Will it cost more, maybe/maybe not? The company I worked for made some parts that involved us handling lead. I’ve been a Machinist most of my life, I’m fully aware of the dangers of lead. I didn’t want to handle that stuff or breath it while it was being cut. We all wore gloves and masks. We don’t know what we don’t know. A few years ago it came out they think there is a link between Alzheimer’s and aluminum. There is Alzheimer’s in my family and I just retired from a company making mainly aluminum aircraft parts…. great. Responsible people in industry try to make manufacturing safe for their employees and the public. But some won’t comply until the government passes laws making them comply. It appears to be the same with hunting. The 2nd amendment has nothing to do with hunting, and none of this has anything to do with the 2nd amendment.

My wife used to work with a raptor rehabber. Bullet fragments aren't so much an issue as shotgun pellets. A single shotgun pellet consumed can make a smaller bird very sick, I've seen it. Most of the birds she dealt with had been shot but there were a few that injested the lead. I think I recall an Osprey that ate a fish that had swallowed a lead sinker. It doesn't take much when you weigh 5lbs or less. Most raptors are opportunistic. If they find something edible that's already dead, they'll eat it. It's easier than expending the effort to kill it. Was it you that had the pics of the albino hawk on a gut pile?

OH! OH! OH!!! And as The Wife just pointed ought, that's assuming that eagles don't actually poop!! Bear in mind that actual lead solid are non digestible, I'm going to go ahead & make the assumption that the stupid eagle actually shat out a good 90% of the lead it ingested!! I would alter my guess to state that I'd bet it consumed less lead in it's life that is contained in 10 gallons of tap water.

Please let me be the first to call bull$hit on that. Bear in mind it's living along the largest concentration of wolves, badgers, bears, lions & corvids in the lower 48, how much carrion containing lead fragments must the thing have had to have eaten in it's life. A bird that is primarily a hunting raptor & not a scavenger, to boot. Over an average lifespan of 30 years (Google) that single bird must've eaten just about every single carcass shot within 30 miles of Yellowstone AND been unlucky enough to have found every trace of lead, from every bullet. I'm sorry, but the math simply doesn't work for me. Further studies have shown that actually consuming the average quantity of lead found in a recovered animal carcass, on a regular basis, has literally ZERO effect on (human) health. Think about it....the average hunting bullet out west (primarily big .30s & 7s) weighs 180gn, give or take. If a recovered bullet retains 50% of it's mass (low estimate) & 50% of shots are passthroughs (SUPER low estimate...) statistically speaking, the average uncovered mule deer, antelope or elk, weighing a (WAG) average of 300lb therefore contains 45gn of bullet. Call 5gn of that jacket & you've got 40gn of lead. The average critter is around 50% edible meat, innards & skin. Therefore the average pound of meat contains 0.0000380952gn of actual lead. The average golden eagle eats ½ to 1lb of meat per day (Google), split the difference & call that ¾lb, so 0.00002857140gn of lead per day. At an average lifespan of 10950 days, that's a total of 0.31285683gn of lead in it's entire life. That's 1.75 No.12 shot, to put it in reasonable terms. A hair under a third of a grain of lead, in it's entire life. I'm calling a hard "BOLLOCKS" on the whole deal.....

88 mm German gun , Eastern Front

I have several pieces from TT-always great product at I think better than competitive pricing.

We cant have a thread about the IRS. It would look like this: $%^& the lousy %!^&*"}<>#% sons of <+-{]#$