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Guys, we need to fight this with every ounce of energy that we have. The time for letting the NRA, GOA, 2AF, and everyone else fight for our rights is long past. It's time to actually get off our butts and make it important enough that we call, write, email, and even VISIT our elected representatives and tell them that there will be hell to pay at the voting booth if they support this.

I bought a Sig P365. I have put about 80 rounds through it without any problems. I really like it. The other guns are all great guns and I don't think there was a "bad" gun mentioned. The Sig just had it all, great sights, small size and larger capacity. And it shoots very well. I don't know if it was worth the extra money it cost over the other guns but it is what I wanted. Thanks to all that contributed to this discussion.

Chuck, one night myself and another Officer was dispatched to a business on a burglar alarm. It was a business where the alarm went off a lot and was always false. As I approached the building I could see from the street people in the building. The other Officer was right behind me. I blacked out and rolled into the lot. They had seen me and took off running for the door. The first suspect went out the door and I gave chase on foot. The other Officer put his squad on the door and blocked the 2nd suspect inside. 2 white males that appeared to be adults. We ran across the street (about 100 yards) and into a wide open field. A short distance into the field the suspect stopped and turned and faced me. He was pulling something out of his waistband that I thought was a gun; but I was not absolutely sure. My choice was to do something or wait to see what he was doing. I fired a warning shot into the ground feet in front of him. It went through my mind that we had a department policy against firing warning shots, but my only other option was to kill him. When I did that he turned around and continued to run. At that time we could shoot fleeing forcible felons; burglary was a forcible felony. As we crossed the field he was approaching a building. My thought was that if he made it to that corner; he had cover to shoot me. I fired at him. The bullet hit the corner of the building as he went around the corner. Other Officers had arrived and were coming around the other end of the building. As I rounded the corner those Officers had him at gunpoint and he had his hands in the air. He had no gun. When I asked him what he was pulling out of the front of his pants he said he didn’t have anything. Turns out he was a 16 year old juvenile, home on leave from reform school. He was taken to HQ by other Officers and turned over to Juvenile Officers. Command Officers came to the scene to see what happened with the shooting. When I told them what happened one of them said “We have a department policy against warning shots.” I replied with “Screw that, department policy won’t save me if I’m on trial. I have to be able to use anything I have to keep from killing someone; that is what I did.” As we were getting ready to leave, the Juvenile Officer radioed us and told us to stay there, he was sending the Fire Department out; they would explain. When they arrived they said “your suspect threw a gun on the roof.” They pulled a loaded 6” Model 66 off the roof. The 16 year old told the Detectives when he turned on me; he was going to shoot me. He didn’t expect me to fire so he ran for cover. He saw the other Officers approaching from the other way and knew he was caught. Otherwise he would have shot me once he got to cover. As he rounded the corner they weren’t there yet and he threw the gun on the roof. They never saw the gun. I am alive today because I violated department policy and fired my weapon. So is he, because if I hadn’t been in a wide open field, if there had been people around; I would have shot him. Even though he never got a chance to point his gun at me; one of us would have probably been dead when I rounded that corner. After that incident our department policy was changed. I didn’t make him burglarize that building; I didn’t make him run, I didn’t make him have a gun, and I didn’t make him try to kill me. He did all that because he was a dirt bag criminal with no regard for life. The protection of violent criminals has gone too far. Law abiding citizens and cops that have to use deadly force to protect themselves from dirt bag criminals should have that protection; not them. So having been in the same situation this is very personal for me. By the time you see the weapon pointed at you; it’s too late. I feel terrible that the officials have turned their back on this Police Officer, and all other Police Officers, and sided with a thug carrying a gun. It’s reasonable to believe he would have shot the Officer. Yes, he will probably he acquitted. But he or no other Officer or citizen should have to go through what is being done to him.

FN America has announced that the 509 family has expanded to include the new 15-round FN 509 Midsize as well as a black 509 Tactical. The Midsize is dimensionally similar to the Glock 19. FN 509 Midsize Specs: Check back with me sometime next week. I'll be able to offer some first-hand thoughts on it, as I have one on the way.

Officer Delke was doing aggressive police work. Thats how good crime fighting works. You cant simply show up after the crime and clean up the mess. If you want to inhibit future crime, you have to aggressively proactive. Most traffic stops are for this reason. Seriously, do you think it really matters that much if one of two license plate lights is out? No, it is because many many times, once the traffic stop is effected for a minor violation, interaction with the occupants reveals reasons for further interaction, often resulting in arrests, and...crime reduction. If this trend keeps up, we will see an increase in crime. LEOs will shy away from being aggressive and who could blame them? I wouldnt be a LEO today and I have retired LEO friends across the nation who say the same thing. In my time we were always told we were held to a higher standard...we accepted that. But these days every single action and reaction that happens in a split, stress filled second is Monday morning quarterbacked and analyzed to the point that the criticism for action is overwhelming. The end result is going to be inaction. Its dangerous enough for LEOs out there now, but this after action over reaction will ruin law enforcement.

Clemson wanted it more than bama.

Not a bad deal for $349. Double action only. https://aimsurplus.com/smith-wesson-model-6906-9mm-caliber-pistol

I recently ran across a deal(at least I think so) on a Colt Gold Cup National Match 70 series on another forum that I belong to. I've always wanted one in 70 series and passed on a few due to the price($1200- $2000 plus) this one I got for $850. I checked the serial# on Colts web-site and it showed it was made in 1981. The slide to frame fit is tight with no movement or rattle, has the original box(has seen better days but it is original to the gun) has a collet bushing and it fits tight to the Bbl. front strap has the vertical serrations, original grips. I haven't had time to put some rounds down it yet, but hopefully soon. Here are a few pics.

Ready aim fire

Well you got me there, but the blaze is mostly known for making stuff up.

Don’t you mean moving to the area? Maybe they can all live in the imitation Shire before it’s featured on “Mysteries of the Abandoned” in a few years.

Being placed in the position of having to decide life or death isn't easy and I commend you for posting this. Myself, I came half a trigger pull away on a service revolver from shooting a dumbass drunk with a baseball bat. After he dropped his bat and was taken into custody I became so angry with the guy for putting me in that position that I couldn't even talk with him. Other officers handled it from there. It's pretty darned easy for many people to armchair quarterback a cop. It's another thing to actually do it.

Is this a great group of people or what? ..... And why does it seem everyone but me has suppressors?!

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Short meeting; no one is moving.

While many professions are dangerous, and have more deaths as a result, that does not mitigate the danger of another. And while those professions do have more deaths, they do not have people (at least not many) intentionally trying to take your life. I'm retired military, and my particular role did not put me in as much danger as the ones we lovingly call "Door Kickers", but the 7.62 rounds perforating my Toyota didn't get the message, neither did those mortars lobbed in at us daily. LEO have a dangerous job, one in which more and more of the public is turning against them...until they need them.

I’ve seen you mention the deceased pointing his gun at the cop more than once. I don’t remember that being part of Delke’s story at the beginning and the video doesn’t show that happening. Can you direct me to where you got that bit of information? That has always been my hurdle with this case. If the deceased did point his gun at Delke, then it’s absolutely a good shoot, but if he didn’t, that’s where it becomes questionable to me and why I think it should go to trial. If I am misreading your posts, please correct me. As far as that trial goes, if the history of these types of trials is any indicator, he will get acquitted and the union will get him his job back. There are roughly 1000 officer involved shootings per year** and between 2005 and 2017 80 officers were indicted for on the job homicides but only about 35% of those were convicted. It is exceedingly difficult to convict an officer for an on the job shooting. **https://scholarworks.bgsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://amp-cnn-com.cdn.ampproject.org/&httpsredir=1&article=1077&context=crim_just_pub *I also feel it is incumbent upon me at this time to make my usual reminder that contrary to propagandist efforts from inside the LE industry, policing in this country isn’t an especially dangerous job. It doesn’t even make the top 10 for on the job fatalities. Truck drivers like myself are more than twice as likely to die on the job as a police officer and we aren’t even top 5. Your trash guy has a statistically more dangerous job than a cop.*

That was evident from kickoff. Bama and Saban expected to win on reputation and name intimidation. Didn't work out that way.

TWRA and MS not communicating with each other.

This article from earlier in the year describes the pressure that was being put on former Governor Scott to remove Israel and mentions the statute that covers the power of the Governor to do so and prior removals he has made. https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/02/26/uncharted-territory-could-rick-scott-suspend-the-broward-sheriff/ Here is the statute in question. http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0100-0199/0112/Sections/0112.51.html So the governor can suspend him, at which point the Senate would have to review that removal and either make that removal permanent or reinstate him.

Who knows? I wonder what the procedure is for removing an elected Sheriff?

At a guess, probably a few. Check this out: https://www.iapf.org/jun19-ivory-poachers-sentenced/ According to this they are kicking in doors and arresting bad guys... 51 arrests since October 2017. Poaching can be big money, so these guys they are taking down can be pretty serious criminals. I don't expect they are gentle. I was visiting a private reserve adjacent to Kruger National Park a few years ago and marveled at how many rhino they had. I asked one of the guides why they had so many... he just smiled and after a quick look around confided that "We just kill poachers, so they stay away. Other units don't, so no rhino."

Coming from the blaze, I don’t trust it. When it hits mainstream media then it might be true.

Well deserved. There are others from the department who should also be unemployed.

Final #’s

I have handled both at Bud's, the PTR seems better made. I think I saw a video showing a head to head, PTR was more robust. Saw a stack of PTRs at Bud's in Sevierville before Christmas for $579

Unfortunately for this Officer I expect he will be going to trial. This is not good for cops or citizens. This Judge went into detail about why the Officer was stopping this guy. It doesn’t matter…period. The Officer could have started chasing the wrong guy, but at the point the criminal pulled a gun; nothing prior to that matters. She also didn’t think the video was clear that the criminal pointed the gun at the Officer. That also isn’t required. And if the video isn’t clear it should be thrown out. Her ruling was as ignorant as people that rant about someone getting shot after pointing a gun at cop on a traffic stop and then saying “He got killed over a speeding ticket!” No he got killed for pointing a gun at a cop; and that’s what happened here. However, I don’t think much can be done about the Judge’s ruling because all she is doing is sending it to a Grand Jury. Would a reasonable person (That will be a jury) believe that they were in immediate danger of death or great bodily harm if they were in this situation? A person with a gun visible in his hand running from a uniformed Police Officer, who was giving him commands to stop, and the criminal is close to having cover. I don’t see how 12 people could come to a unanimous verdict that the Officer was guilty of anything. But in these times; who knows.

I agree about polls, but my gut feeling on this one says we'll lose too. The majority of people are not invested in the subject and they want to see SOMETHING done whether it will actually accomplish the mission or not. Heck, I don't know off the top of my head if ANY of the mass shooters got their weapon absent a background check.

I hadn't seen those. But remember polls are subject to really one-sided and targeted responses, as well as can be weighted by the population group taking them. Not that I'm questioning you as person, I just tend to be very leery of polling stats.

This is a great program. Poaching and habitat destruction are the main cause for African animals being wiped out. Without units like this being willing to step into the line of fire, these animals will be gone in no time. It's expensive though and a lot of places outside the national parks have a hard time funding these units. Hunting seems to be the best way to help pay for these types of anti-poaching units. Eco tourism helps, but a single hunter (on average) spends 7 - 10 times as much as a tourist and usually in remote locations far from the national parks. The saying in Africa is "if it pays, it stays"... in other words, if the animals have a value as a renewable resource for hunters and tourists (or even as a commodity) then Africans will protect these animals and the habitats they live in. If not, the wildlife will quickly disappear (see Kenya). So, do your part... Go Hunt in Africa! It's cheaper and easier than you think.

Thanks for sharing! I love old Colts!

My experience has been that the 2.0 triggers are a lot better than the first generation. I put an Apex trigger in one of my M2.0 Compacts just to see if it really made that much difference and, in my opinion, it really doesn't. Bear in mind too that a lot of Glock owners swap triggers for aftermarket kit despite the Glock trigger reset having become the example of what a polymer striker-fired gun's trigger should feel like. While some people may replace them in pursuit of a certain aspect of an aftermarket trigger's feel or function, I think a lot of people -- on both the Glock and S&W sides of the aisle -- swap them because folks are chronic tinkerers or gear-whores. Tinkerer's gonna tinker!

Wow, I would think Patrolling at night with animals that will kill you and eat you would be a far greater danger than the poachers.

You are welcome. You are very lucky to get to share that great pistol while he is still with you. My grandfather had a very unfortunate issue long before me when a friend he sold a pistol to killed his wife. He never let another pistol go as long as he lived. My Dad has them now and I will get them at some point. I think family guns hold so much more meaning.

My crystal ball says universal background checks will be federal law sometime in 2021 or 2022....along with a whole lot of other things we are not going to like.

As my screen handle suggests, I might have mentioned the BHP, but Leroy's criteria of plastic ruled it out initially. However, I find that my Hipowers, and the related clones; CZs especially, are some of the easiest to shoot pistols I own or have ever shot. Most fun for me? Dang, I want to say the BHP/CZ. But I have been slowly converted over the last 10 years. I find the 1911 platform the absolute boss for me in all metal frame pistols.

Today was probably my last chance to shoot @Chucktshoes Montana for a while. I also shot a great 5 shot group. Pulled the fourth shot pretty badly.

Haha. Thanks. But I was there alone. The pasties were from a previous range session with a different gun. I’ve been being frugal with my targets lately. Haha

Randy Boyd's father is building some kind of hobbit land in South Knoxville called "Ancient Lore Village" with over 150 homes and treehouses based on his Tolkien knock-off book The Bobbins – Outcast to the Inner Earth. https://www.wbir.com/article/news/randy-boyds-father-plans-40-million-fantasy-resort-in-south-knoxville/51-73c3f153-0b8f-468b-bf72-0a49bca6bfb5 https://ancientlorevillage.com/ (You can download the book for free here)

I usually dont chime in, but.. Has Trump even thought about this? Kinda makes spending money on a wall seem questionable....

I don't know Florida laws, but here in Tennessee, Sheriffs are typically removed right after their first felony conviction ...