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In our new quarter subject in Bible study, we are talking about the subject of being courageous men in our men's class. I will be interested to see of safety and security will be discussed by anyone. I will bet you not one of the teachers will discuss personal safety in any way, shape, or form----but I WILL before the class ends this quarter. Working on my presentation now. I don't understand how a man can teach others about being courageous, in the leadership of our families, if one does not talk about all aspects of it. Providing safety to ones family, and church family is very important in this day in time. The opening teacher, in the class interdiction, said that the Apostle Peter, when he took his sword and cut Malceious's ear off was not courageous(Matthew 26:51) . I called him on that one. Told him he was very courageous as Peter just told Jesus he was ready to die for Him. The act of cutting the ear off a Roman, by a Jew, was a death sentence offense. Guys, it took courage to cut that ear off knowing he could be put to death. After all Peter was using the sword that Jesus told the apostles to go and purchase. Now I ask you another question? Why did Jesus tell them(11 apostles) to purchase a sword (Luke 22:36-38) and they told him they bought 2 and he said it was enough. My opinion, it was for personal protection because He had just told them He was no longer going to be with the apostles and they were going to need to take care of themselves. I am curious to see if anyone will bring the subject up in class. By the way, my knee replacement DR, who was in the class, confronted the statement about Peter not having courage also. He was in agreement with me that it was very courageous what Peter did. The teacher said, well Peter was presumptuous in what he did. I met him after class to ask him to clarify that and he said Peter did things without thinking them through and acted impulsively. That still did not explained to me why what he did was not courageous, even though what he did caused Jesus to scold Peter for taking a sword and trying to prevent His sacrificing Himself for all of mankind. I know I am preaching to the choir here, but I intend to hold this guys feet to the fire on this subject, if I can. I want to discuss personal and church safety along with all the other courageous things a Christian man is responsible to do in his church and personal life. I applaud our church leadership discussing this subject in our men's class. All of us need to know what to do when confronted with situations, while doing our daily walk in life, of a spiritual nature. I also believe the confrontation of evil is also a subject that need to be addressed along with those of a spiritual encounter. Anyone care to comment on this?

I first saw one of those Field and Stream stores in Champaign, IL about a year or so ago. They had everything….and I mean everything. Very impressive except the prices were high. They won’t be able to compete with on-line retailers, so this latest action is crazy. Some of these stores seem to have CEO’s and Boards that are trying to put themselves out of business. I’m not worried about it though; there will always be places to order from.

I've gone through a pile of them. Some of them just made me mad! LOL

This ain't my first 1911. I have a pile of em, from cheap to expensive. The rest of em work as intended.

EVERY faith has its zealots, sorry to say. I kinda like how it gets dodged in some places. The comedian Gabriel Iglesias described how he did a show in Saudi. The religious cops woulda whaled the Fluffysnot out of him if he had performed his set in Riyadh. The show was set up OUTSIDE the city in a giant tent. What religious cops did attend apparantly left their badges, clubs and attitudes back in the city, and all got to enjoy that universal antidote to hate: LAUGHTER. SWC

Perhaps the slap refers to your brothers and sisters sinning against you. A good example would be bearing false witness or coveting your stuff. Not a physical attack, but an attack none the less. It may also refer to the fact of worldly punishment for sin is no longer prescribed and man is no longer required or asked by God to cover up the sin as in the Old Testament

Easy for me as I am fairly agnostic. My thoughts tend more towards treat people nice, until they prove themselves unworthy, then dispatch them quickly. Seems as of the world's problems could be handled by people doing until others and just plain acting morally and ethically. You do your thing and I do mine. Don't bother me and I shall return the favor. Bring religion of any kind in it d you will get wars. Thousands of years of history would seem to back up that thought.

Again, perhaps the ultimate political position of some.

I was about 5. It was summer. We had a full sized van, not the conversion type just with bench seats. Mom had been grocery shopping so the bags were in the back. She had to hit the brakes for something and a 2 liter Coke rolled from the back all the way to the front. The cap smacked something hard... seat base or something... and cracked. The Coke started spewing sticky foam everywhere while it spun around the floor. Mom pulled over in into a YMCA and got me out of my seat with me and everything else covered in sticky goo. I remember her trying not to cry while doing what she could to clean us up. I think Dad ended up removing most of the interior while cleaning the van out. One good thing about vinyl seats. Good times.

If I had a family, I would protect them before myself or my country. I served in the Army in 'Nam & have two shot up legs, feet to show for it. Now's the time to defend my own castle. I had no problem defending either at the time.

I actually have one memory of an event that took place while I was still in diapers. Plugged a key into a wall socket and it sent me sliding across the room on the hardwood floor. Sort of like a old fashioned slip an slide . You mentioning your polio shot brought back another. When I was 8 I had to go through the 15 shot series for rabies. They gave them in the stomach, each day for 15 days. First day, they caught me by surprise but each day after that took more and more staff members to hold me down. By day 15, I think I had a hand covering every square inch of my body

I already have a KIA, 2015 Sportage EX and love it!

I dunno. That one has always been interesting to me as well. If we followed the doctrines of some people when they bring up that verse we would gleefully allow some thug to come in and slaughter our entire family and not be allowed to lift a hand to defend them. But I've also heard or read some translation of that somewhere (it's been more than 5 minutes ago so I don't remember) that that concept referred to that time in which it was written where a slap to the face was a supreme insult. I'm really not sure how to translate that, and I don't claim to have all the answers. I just know what I believe, that Jesus Christ is Lord, that He alone has redeemed me (as unworthy as I am), and that he who doth chooseth to-eth raise-eth his'n own hand agin my family shall be slaughtered forthwith and forever more (there's my mix of "olde englishe" and redneck).

High School Shooting Club.

Taken care of , set something up on Shooter's Nation and I will kick in there also.

This is different. You don't see too many original BMC Morris Mini's these days!