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Got a member with some serious health issues going on today - y'all's prayers would be greatly appreciated.

Unless you grew up in the "country" you should really stay where you are. there are plenty of people who plan on bugging out and I wonder where. Most of them say they plan to head to the hills which is a huge problem because there are already people in those hills living there right now. And those people are going to defend their location or at least I know I will. And don't expect others to openly welcome a large group of people. I know I won't welcome anyone unless they bring a significant skill to the group and honestly I can't imagine what that skill might be that isn't already covered. There are less than 5 people that will be invited in and all others will be turned away with overwhelming amount of force. I will say this to all of those planning on bugging out to the hills. I will defend what is mine, including land, from any squatters or looters. After all if you show up and try to take what isn't yours you are a thief. That includes wild game, plants or anything on my property even if I do not need it or not using it that stuff is still mine. I may have more than I need to survive but I will not share any of it with complete strangers. I have made preparations to ensure my survivability and I would be a fool to give any of it up to complete strangers. It takes a lot of land to support a person year around. An acre or two isn't going to cut it. It will likely take 10's of acres per person. Anyone who has hunted, both for meat and vegetables, knows that it will take a lot of land to support a hunter/gatherer lifestyle. And what makes the average person think they are going to make it out of a population center before the other 50% of the other people leaving the cities clog the roadways? What is going to happen is the highways are going to clog like Rita/ Katrina leaving them stranded and with the option of walking to the "hills" or walking back to the cities. And when you start walking you are going to be able to carry far less than what you left with or even left behind. Bugging in has some real advantages and if I lived in a city I would, without a doubt, stay put. First is you already have everything you are going to have without the need to transport it to a new location. You can call for help from those around you while in a remote location you cannot call for help. Another big advantage is you know the area. You also know who friend and who foe is or at least have a good idea. Travelling exposes you to more dangers. It is also easier to defend a building or high rise than a tent in the woods. Those buildings are going to protect you from the elements and be easier to keep warm in and survive in for the average person especially those used to living in the city. Food, at least initially, will be easier to come by in the cities as well as potable water. There are literally a few weeks worth of potable water in your water heater and toilet bowls and that is if you don't ration. With rain gutters, collecting water is much easier too. And as disgusting as it might sound cities have tons of rodents or stray animals that can be harvested for food. If any type of relief or supplies is going to be handed out it is going to be in the population centers first, not in the middle of a forest. The average person is going to have a far easier time surviving in the city than in the "hills". But if you must bug out and have any hope of bugging out you must be packed and ready to go in a moments notice. Vehicles have to ALWAYS have the gas needed to make it to the remote location. When the SHTF gas will be gone within minutes unless you are at the pumps pumping your gas as it takes place. You need to also realize that there are going to be a lot more people than just you heading to a bug out location. This is going to clog the roadways like we saw during Rita/Katrina. The only way you might get a head start is if you are in a position to get some notice, like LE, emergency services or the government would get to prepare. Otherwise it is going to be a race to get out and if you are not in the lead you will find yourself stuck in the rear. And once you are stuck you and your stuff become vulnerable to roaming bands of thugs set on taking your stuff for themselves. And honestly it would be easy picking. As far as your bug out location you need to own the property you plan to go to. This can give you a little bit of a delay in the squatters that will show up. And once there, the squatters are not going to readily leave even if you tell them you own the property. If your bug out location is "public lands" you are not going to be the first there, it will be like winning the lottery if you are. You are going to find yourself surrounded by thousands of others who have the same plan. Most people don't realize that best case scenario crops will be edible in 4 months. If it happened today we are looking at 6-7 months before crops can begin to be harvested. So that means you are going to have to transport that much food because you are not going to be able to kill a years worth of food with everyone else trying to do the same thing. And as much as I hate to say it in order to survive people must loose their conscience. They must be willing to turn those less fortunate away unless they bring a substantial advantage to the group. People have this grand illusion that they are going to be able to find virgin land to live off of. Look around, how much public land do you see? And of that how much is going to be free for the taking, not much if any, by the time they make it?

This week I've been reaching out to some members who haven't been on much lately - many of whom just have as much as they can bear going on in their lives. As you're giving thanks this holiday season, take a moment to look around you and take note of all that you've been given - because life can change so fast. Give thanks. Many of you know and have relationships with some of the folks I've been talking to, and I don't need to mention them here. But, for those of you who are longtime active members and know folks who haven't been on much, reach out. People always appreciate knowing that someone is thinking about them.

Surely he doesn't out-weird you in that regard? - OS

I am sorry. To be more specific that temp is what is needed (roughly based on a lot of variables) to freeze it before hitting the ground straight from the faucet so to speak. My mistake in not filling in the details.

Oscar Wilde: The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.

Well, if you gotta know..... there's a AR15 hammer in there running things. You see the MPA folks that originally built it as a MPA 971 wanted to use a straight up FAL FCG. But the FAL hammer was only functional under the Cobray M11 upper if the FAL lower was mounted way off center to the upper. So much so that MPA couldn't use the terribly off center rear FAL sight with a front barrel sight. An AR hammer corrects that major down fall of the original design. I also shaved a crap load of useless steel (& using alloy lower) off the unit taking it from 13.5 lbs to 10.25 lbs as you see it with an empty mag. What makes this a plausible unit is the super HD drum mags. Clearly, there is no better made hi cap drum mag than these Sumoi units and at a bargain price. When I use to work at Auto Ordinance, they used to sell 39 rd Tommy drums for stupid money and they in fact were Jap made "Toy" drums for non firing replicas. You can tell those by the cheap bent tab cartridge pushers. Pure garbage but they did actually work as long as they weren't over wound. Nothing more fun than building a one of a kind!

Yeah, I can relate. Piled the kids in the car and told them it was going to be a family day today, no X-Box, we're taking a hike in the woods. Brought the dog, was fun (granted, wifey was on board w/ the idea, YMMV).

Black Mirror is pretty good. Each episode is stand alone so unrelated to any other ones. Reminds me a little bit of the old Twilight Zone series, but without Rod Serling (or anyone) narrating...

On an extra related note, now Cabela’s online charges sales tax since Bass Pro has a physical presence in TN. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I can state from recent first hand experimentation that -20 is not cold enough.

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And yet, here all you guys are talking about it. It worked.

I am not sure I could ever get used to having live grenades strapped to my chest........

I have watched a few episodes, not a great show but it is ok once in awhile.

Pete Jr is starting his own company called defiant ammunitions. I'm on the Facebook page and have watched all his livestreams. Seems very nice and is taking input on his potential product lines. https://defense-training.com/2017/cor-bon-update/ Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

This is the only reason I go to brick and mortar stores anymore, is for something I need right now, which includes perishable groceries.

This is easy for me! If there is any type of sign of any type that refers to any type of firearms restriction on the premises I just take my business elsewhere, except in goverment buildings that I am required to go in for legal business and then my gun is locked in my vehicle out of sight. I just don't feel right giving someone my money that does not believe like I do when I have other options................

I haven't walked through a mall in years.

I'm fixed OK for 9's but that would be a nice convertible set up with a 22 TCM barrel & recoil spring. Now if I can only figure a way to get those 72 rd Sumoi drums in a.........

In my opinion this is the perfect pistol to combine with a threaded barrel, the reason I am buying one

The r Ruger mkii I got when Dad passed. Nothing new or fancy but it means the most to me and always will. Thanks again Dad! I love the gun but would give them all away today to have Dad back.

Don't worry. The great service and selection you're used to at Cabela's will soon be replaced with 85% Redhead products priced like North Face products, with the occasional rare sighting of an indifferent person with a name tag who kind of works there.

Broken record here; 75B Omega with work by Cajun Gun Works. Thought the P10C could be the replacement, 75 continues to win.

I have several 20 and 40mm ammo cans. Thought they'd be good for storing ammo. Well, the 20's are somewhat manageable but the 40's simply cannot be moved once filled up.

I get that it’s a military model, but on the civilian side, I think theyd be much better off going the other way with a 17 slide on a 19 frame.

100 and 400 yard rifle ranges, outdoors of course. Covered pistol range and skeet/trap ranges. Can be cold in winter.

Man that's ugly. Looks like a Hi-Point. Only uglier.

I love this - and feel somehow betrayed at the same time. How different the 90s might have been had Nirvana simply chosen a major chord.

Remington would probably be better off just turning in the remaining stock at the next gun buy back and get some gift cards for their trouble.

Marketing guy: What do you think of our new Kel-Tec campaign? Marketing director: Urine trouble.