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My 7 yr old goes in tomorrow morning around 8 am to have his tonsils and adenoids taken out, if you are the praying type please say a prayer for him. I know it's routine and a lot of kids have it done but I am still freaking a little over it!! He is our youngest and the others are all grown and gone so to say we are a little overprotective of him is an understatement lol

With all of our precious republicans crying in Washington and pulling everything gun related off the table I am beginning to think Trump is the only sane one in Washington right now. I will say this, if our Republican controlled government does ANYTHING to harm my gun rights I will NEVER vote Republican again, ever. At least I will be able to recognize my enemy instead of having a "Wait and see" attitude to what kind of republican I helped vote into office. I hope all those who helped fill our government with "conservatives" do the same when they realize Washington doesn't have any conservatives. What we have now are 80's democrats, not conservative republicans. Seriously, we have control of EVERYTHING in our government yet we cannot get ANYTHING done, Washington is broke.

Saying that "Washington is broke" is going easy on the true culprits. The Republican party is broke. We have a bunch of greasy, self centered, dishonest POLITICIANS in there. Those greasy politicians are all the same, no matter what party. Now, when it comes to party, the Democrat PARTY wants to eliminate the Second Amendment. The Republican PARTY wants to preserve the Second Amendment. We don't need to confuse that. We have the same problem in the State.

Y'all just keep this in mind: When the fools that we as a country have elected regulate bump-fire stocks, they will have absolutely been given the keys to regulating how fast we can fire a semi-automatic weapon of any sort. Fully-automatic weapons have been regulated in this country since 1934 when the National Firearms Act was passed. They set the definition then of what was semi-automatic (one shot fired per trigger pull) and what was fully-automatic (more than one shot fired per trigger pull). Bump-fire stocks, while stupid and pretty much the domain of people who like shooting the dirt and throwing money out the window, are not fully-automatic weapons per the definition agreed upon in 1934. They still fire one shot per trigger pull. If this bull#### goes through and bump-fire stocks become regulated or outright banned, the podium will be prepped for the next round of arbitration. And the next. And the next. And it will keep going until you're allowed to have a single-shot, cap and ball musket ... if you're lucky... because that's what the crown feels is a safe rate of fire for us peasants.

Before the remnants of hurricane Nate made it's way to our range, some friends and I were able to squeeze in a ATA Big 50 shoot . I didn't think about taking an action picture until we were in the process of shutting down so this is my best attempt of photographic evidence I shot today.

I've read a few articles that seemed to suggest that number might be accurate. I read that one person is now going to be a quadriplegic, 2 will be paraplegics. I could not imagine getting that news from a doctor. Many of these victims are going to need help for the rest of their lives. I really hope they get all the help they need. If any TGO members have the means, I would encourage them to make a donation to one of the many groups collecting money.

GJ is good to go, nice work and easy to work with.

Yep. Some feel that the bump fire stocks facilitated too many rounds shot too quickly into a crowd. Then the conversation will shift to the high capacity mags that facilitated too many rounds shot into a crowd. Then it will shift to the AR15 that allowed too many rounds shot too quickly into a crowd. Then it will be the semi-automatic rifle that.... Opening the door on bumpfire opens the door on semi-auto. Plain and simple.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/02/us/las-vegas-shooting.html?mcubz=1

Colt Cobra

Not me...but my 14 year old

Had a great time Saturday with some friends at a farm owned by some of my wife's family. First there was skeet.... ... and we even managed to break a few of them. Before they hit the ground. Then after lunch it was pistols and rifles.... Got to shoot lots of good stuff. I finally got to shoot the FAL I built and it worked pretty well. I was very happy that it didn't require much sight adjustment at all. I got irons sighted in on both AR's but unfortunately one of them was plagued with light strikes, so I'll have to sort that out. One of my friends is somewhat new to guns and I managed to dispel some myths about .380's being innaccurate by hitting a spinning gopher target a handful of times from about 25 yds with my P3AT. Surprised myself a little too. A bit warm for my tastes but a great time for sure.

oops too slow - wingshooter got it

The problem is the reporter lied. Kapernick never said that. The reporter had now said he made it up. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

I'd be willing to chip in on that

Freedom of speech is alive and well. So are the consequences of that speech. A lesson many need to learn.

I too like your selection.You have two of my favorites Blantons and Weller 107

Maybe you shouldn't have mentioned this "Will they seek new controls for blue jeans–or belt loops specifically–after passing gun control for bump stocks?" http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/10/08/nine-republican-senators-ask-atf-reconsider-regulating-firearm-accessory/

That brother of his gave the strangest interview with the media the other day very very odd. PS: he looks just like Chris Elliott Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Exactly. A lot of money, and access to YouTube. It's not rocket science.

Folks, it will take a long time for FACTS to be had in this story. Any thing else is pure speculation and while time consuming and distracting not really beneficial. As I mentioned early on, stop trying to apply logic and reasoning to an event that was neither. Stupid is stupid and crazy is crazy. There is only one real cure for either and that power does not lie with any other human. It is a sad event that we will probably have to write off as a crazy act. All of these events have one thing in common, and it is not guns! It is someone kills a lot of people because they have either a mental issue or are acting as a terrorist. It can be argued that the latter is still a mental issue. So no more knee jerk reactions and blaming the tool. We have not banned rental vans, cars, knifes, bats, sticks, or any other tool so let us not jump to another worthless law that will have no effect anyway. Here is a thought, how about we focus on the real issues. You know, the mental aspects! Immoral, unfeeling kids that have not been taught to respect life. We are never going to be able to stop all folks that do something like this regardless of the tool they choose. Sad but true. So you can ban all the evil items like guns, knives, bats, pointy objects, or whatever and live in fear. Or you can live. Stop punishing all for the actions of a few. I know that is logic and reasonable so it cannot actually happen as it does not meet someones narratives. I can still hope though.

The card may well have been a ballistics chart. But that doesn’t mean anything. He didn’t need it and it would have meant little using a bump fire stock, or spray and pray. 400 yards might be tough if you are trying to shoot a bullseye at the range, but it is nothing when your target is a massive crowd of people. He didn’t even really need sights or optics; point and shoot (which is what I think he was doing) would do fine. I don’t understand why anyone thinks this clown had to have training. I also don’t understand why anyone thinks he had to have help. The thing that bothers me the most about this (besides the obvious senseless loss of life) is the reporters focusing on “why did he have so many guns and rounds of ammunition?” Many people have more than he had. I am lucky enough to have a lot. I don’t have a lot of the same gun, but my collection is application driven. I try to have a gun for each application. But I don’t think there is anything wrong with those that collect one particular type of gun. I don’t try to hide it, I don’t care if there are records of my purchases, and I register most new guns with the manufacturers for warranty purposes. I know that bothers many people; and that’s fine for them. If I thought anyone would ever been coming for my guns; I wouldn’t do that. But I don’t believe that will ever happen.

Thanks! That was pretty fun building. Already looking at building another or two.

I highly recommend Ms Patti's, as others have mentioned - https://www.pattis1880s.com/ LBL is a great place for a quiet few days.

I saw this elsewhere and thought it was perfect.

Nice set of pistols you have there BW. I just set up a small pottery kiln to CCH small receivers. The only thing you need to put traditional colors in the process is wood charcoal and powdered bone charcoal. Some folks may add various other things like leather char or some kind of fruit pit char but its really the process of charcoal and bone that does the hardening and the water quench is huge in determining the colors. I Ran the process 4 times so far and had to do both receivers over twice because my canister floor plate was not dropping the receivers in the quench tank fast enough. When that happens the extra "to atmosphere contact" between the hot kiln and cool water certainly did produce a whole lot of grey and not much color. The key is to get the cherry red receiver surrounded with the charcoal in the water just as it was with in the heating canister. If open air hits the receiver for any more than a split second, the colors are in jeopardy of materializing. Heres the last one I did and its dry in the picture but not bad for a 4th try at it. Its a Marlin No 47 22 pump. This pump gun was in a fire with very heavy water damage pitting.

You should never have to give up part of a Right in order to "Secure" the rest of that right. That's just frickin' ludicrous. It's either all or nothing and we've already given up waaay to much already. NO MORE!! If they ban these stupid bump stocks they will go after binary triggers next. Then what? Will they ask us to give up semi auto rifles? Then semi auto handguns? So what part of "compromise" is everyone willing to settle for? Where does it end? It's a slippery slope to an outright ban on firearms. I'm amazed anyone is willing to bargain with the left, right or willing to have the NRA do it for you. I'm not close minded. I'm just not hearing anything new. It's the same old stale argument. Tell me something new, show me the magical combination of letters and punctuations that would have stopped this shooting. Not one bit of legislation currently on the books anywhere in the world would have prevented this. Many of you are old enough to remember Clinton's "Nose of the camel under the tent" reference to Brady. They are still trying to shovel the camel the rest of the way into the tent. They won't rest until that damn camel is ####ting in my lap. Enough is enough. So excuse me when someone starts talking about considering, compromise, reasonable steps and all the other crap I get a little irked. It's a song I've heard before and it's time to change the stinkin' band.

I am so gonna have to get this BluRay:

Binary, digital, same difference to a dolt.

Of course, it's a hypothetical conversation as it honestly doesn't matter if the government figures out how to revoke the 2A and go full on Bolshevik. As long as the internet still works, power still comes on, and the grocery store shelves still have food, things will carry on as they always have been. Freedom isn't important to the masses as long as life is still comfortable.

Bump stocks, which have proven to have one, and only one practical use may get regulated. I was surprised when the ATF let them hit the market in the first place. That ain't the end of the second amendment. Can we get ahold of ourselves here? That is ALL that is gonna come from this.

I hate to say it but freedom loving 2nd amendment supporters are just going to have to suck this one up and let it go. The gains, or more properly termed "lack of defeats", the past decade on the federal level have a cost. Now it's time to pay up. Don't shoot the messenger, this is just the reality as I see it. This event is not going away like all those in the past.

I bet they get it. EDIT: And I bet it’s not grandfathered either.

This is a strong probability. I pray that we can get at least one more Conservative Pro Constitution Judge on the Supreme Court. Two would be even better.

Not a very good picture, it's a screen shot from a slow motion video. I was shooting my 357 reloads out of a Ruger LCR which was not fun but I thought the picture was interesting.

To wrap this up - I finally got this straightened out and was able to buy my gun today. The backstory is this: My appeal was denied and the denial letter gave the reason as being convicted of a felony.. In the 1970's I was charged with a drug felony, sentenced as a 1st offender, completed probation released, and had no felony on my record. I've lived my entire life thinking that was buried and in the past. Here's the scary part: in 2014 the 1st Offender Discharge was removed from my record and I suddenly appeared to be a felon and that's why I failed the background check. How this happened no one is sure. Getting it back on my record required a judge to sign a new 1st offender discharge release and that took some doing and some time but I was able to get it done and that fixed the problem. It was really something digging all this back up from my teenage years - it was before the computer age and all of my files at the courthouse were in storage. All the players were dead or retired... During the process of sorting this out I was able to connect with a friendly TBI supervisor who gave me her phone number. As soon as the 1st Offender Discharge was added back to my criminal record I called her and she reversed the denial while we were on the phone and emailed the gun dealer clearing me to buy the gun. She assured me I'd pass background checks going forward. About an hour later the store called telling me I could come get my gun..