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The hero in this case is the fiancee of one of my church members, Bailey, whom I've watched grow up. He attended our church frequently, and believe they split time between their churches like most couples do when they belong to different churches. He confronted the gunman, unarmed, and got pistol-whipped because the gun was empty when the gunman aimed it at him and pulled the trigger. Courage is not the absence of fear; it's doing what's necessary despite your fear. I'd say that his bravery is unquestionable. The lesson here is to have your gun on your person; not in your car, because it can happen to you!

These were friends today... Y’all keep everyone involved in your prayers.

He'd sure be the first Muslim I've ever met named Emanuel. I don't know that it matters - we've got all kinds of people in this world that are consumed by their hatred. The church should stand in start contrast to that - so I guess it shouldn't surprise us when we are targeted. There's a prayer service happening this afternoon at 1500CDT at Woodmont Hills this afternoon on Franklin Pike if any of you are so inclined.

You're doing exactly what so many others are doing and, frankly, it surprises me given what I have perceived as being your level of intelligence via so many of your other writings. What I mean by "exactly what so many others are doing" is confusing, perhaps willfully, the difference between the assurance you have that the government won't forcibly deprive you of your right to free speech (the First Amendment) and the assumption that you are guaranteed the same protection from your employer and customers if you choose to exercise your freedom of speech on their time. I agree that these morons should have the right to express themselves without fear of reprisal from our government. That is guaranteed to them and is what you signed up to defend when you took your oath. BUT when these players choose do so on their employer's (the NFL and the team owners) time, and on their customers' (the fans) time... then those other parties get a say in things. The employer can choose to terminate their employment if their actions were counter to the company's ethics and values, and the customer can choose to do business elsewhere. I'm pretty sure you know this and agree with it as well. But for some reason, you chose to make the other connection.

If those NFL players taking a knee think I served in the Army, deploying to Afghanistan and Iraq four times over eight years just to give them the ability to make their statement of protest during the national anthem...they're exactly right.

There are better ways to show or voice your grievances than alienating the fan base that pays your wages. You think they would be smarter than that but apparently not. Instead of pissing and moaning how about getting in to the inner cities and trying to make a difference. When the fans quit coming, stop buying apparel and TV revenues plummet we will see how much they make in the future. I know they won't be making it from me.

A couple of ancillary observations... The post above should be fairly timeless and be relevant 3, 6, or even 15 years from now, but these comments are particular to the current time: AK-47/74 pattern rifles seem to be an exception to the slump in pricing and sales, especially if they were manufactured in Russia. These rifles are actually rising in cost. The past few years have seen AK and AR-15 pattern rifles completely trade places in terms of marketability and cost. Ten years ago, you would have been laughed out of town if you tried to sell an AK for more than a comparably equipped AR. These days, you can buy an AR that you'd actually want to shoot for less than $600 and that sort of money only gets you into a decent AK. Glock 19s tend to still do well on the secondary market because everyone needs one even if they don't really want one. The advent of the Generation 5 Glock 19 doesn't seem to have softened the resale value of the previous generations too much as the Gen5 hasn't had a chance to prove itself and Glock is notorious for having to fix problems with the first few batches of any new generation. The caveat to that, of course, is that modified Glocks don't always sell very quickly unless the seller prices them reasonably and in accordance to what has been done to them. Stippling and custom finishes (like Cerakote) are very polarizing and might only suit the personal taste of the seller. Revolvers, 1911s, and so-called "Brown Rifles" (hunting bolt actions, shotguns, etc.) seem to be fairly immune to the pricing slump since they were never really in the same level of demand as the tacti-cool stuff and consequently, the market was never flooded with a surplus of them. Collector guns are almost always immune to market fluctuation, which is why they are collector guns. When the rest of the firearms market is racing toward the bottom, there's an advantage to being priced at the top - especially if you can command it. Don't expect to see collectibles selling at bargain prices unless someone is really hurting for money and doesn't have a savvy friend to save them from making a hasty mistake.

As some of you have heard, Gallatin Gun has meet stout resistance every place we have tried to build a range. We have found an ideal location for a range, but again the Facebook crowd has gotten the locals fired up. The usually lies and misinformation. We will have the first planning commission hearing Tuesday September 26th the local office in Gallatin TN. Location is 355 N.Belvedere Dr. in Gallatin Tennessee. Starts at 5:00PM. Their are a few very vocal persons that will be attending against this range. I am calling out current members and anyone who would like to be a member of the Gallatin Gun Club for support of this range. You should live in Sumner county, however other locals will be welcome. We are not looking for a fight, just calm and collected persons, dressed well to be present as support. If you have a short fuse, you may not want to come, These folks can really get your blood pressure up. Also if you live in Sumner County, call your local officials in support of the range plan. Thank you for your support Robert

A friend posted this on Facebook today. It’s relevant to the last few posts. “ First of all, I want to make clear that I always show respect to the flag and have never done anything to defile one. I stand for the anthem, remove my hat. I always will. However, what makes America great is our freedoms. It may be tacky, but it's peaceful and protected first amendment speech. How better to honor our veterans than to exercise the rights, freedoms, and liberties they fought for? And if you don't stand up for the right of everyone to free speech, especially speech you find offensive, one day you may lose your rights to free speech. The point of this post is this: I keep seeing on my feed people putting down these athletes calling them all kinds of negative names and saying they have nothing positive to contribute to society, that they are whiny, spoiled rich a-holes. To that I say I did a bit of research (and I keep up with the nfl year round as if it were my job) and found that these ungrateful scumbag thugs are some of the most charitable people in America, year in and year out for a long, long time. Just from my team alone I found brian orakpo, who raises money and awareness for the leukemia and lymphoma society, sent supplies and help to hurricane Harvey survivors, and has programs in Africa for youth drug awareness and prevention, etc; jurrell casey, who founded the Casey fund, a non profit dedicated to raising money for inner city youth programs, halfway houses, mentoring, and re-entry programs (from prison), helps raise money for big brothers, big sisters of middle tennessee, etc; logan ryan, who founded the ryan animal rescue foundation for dogs with his wife, etc; delanie walker, who is a spokesman for mothers against drunk driving (MADD) and helped lobby for in-car breathalyzers for repeat DUI offenders, has gone on more than one USO tour to support the troops, started the delanie walker gives back foundation which helps inner city and low income kids with educational opportunities and resources like college scholarships, new books for 160 Nashville area classrooms, brand new library for 32 schools, etc; the Mccourty twins raise awareness and money for sickle cell research, etc. This is just a few guys from one team. All 32 have similar stories and each year I see multiple teams host a free thanksgiving meal to area homeless and needy, with the rich, spoiled brat, losers actually serving the food and cleaning up. The guy who started it all, colin kaepernick, has sent millions of tons of food and water to famine ravaged Somalia. Stars like odell Beckham jr. (those who know me know I'm not a fan) fly on their own dime and time to visit with kids in hospitals with all kinds of terrible ailments. My final point: just because these players didn't choose the form of protest you preferred doesn't mean they are savages. Just because you don't agree with their politics doesn't mean they aren't a positive force in their communities. Just because you don't make millions to play a game doesn't mean they haven't worked very hard and made lots of sacrifices. Boycotting is fine if that's what you want to do, but these players have every right to exercise their first amendment rights. No one is saying you have to agree.”

Only issue I have with used is that I want the warranty and I’m starting to lump mowers in with ATVs and street bikes in my “ don’t buy used) category. I’m shy of buying someone else’s problem. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Not all of the NFL is involved. I don’t think you will see any Dallas Cowboys taking a knee. The Titans should be ashamed and we should be ashamed of them.

I'd say it's because Dylan Roof (white) killed blacks. It's not sensational when a black racist kills whites.

Mind you, I grew up in Atlanta in the 70's and 80's. The NFL - and what any team does or does not do has never really been on my radar screen. This won't increase or decrease my consumption of the game. But, I do have some thoughts - filter them through the above lens and do what you want with them. When you listen to Kaepernick speak on the matter, it's clear that he knew going in that his protest might cost him his job. And, he did it anyway. I can respect that. A lot of the conversation that I've seen on social media seems to cast the debate in terms of ungrateful being a sort of new uppity. I'm really wary here. Regardless, I expect you'll see the league quit bringing teams out for the anthem before they continue to give these guys a platform. Do with that what you want, I guess. To my own views, I'm church of Christ. So, mind you civil religion makes me kind of nervous anyway. But, regardless I've worked to further this country's goals and ambitions all over the planet - so I've at least some skin in the game. When I look at the flag - what I see represented is the same ideal as represented in the preamble of the Constitution - that 'we the people' continue to strive towards a 'more perfect union'. No one has a monopoly on what that looks like - and it's clear that we're not there yet. This American experiment is still just that. I continue to believe that protest - while rarely a solution - creates room to talk about a solution. I've come home bloodied and bruised, and teared up upon clearing the border as I've heard the words "welcome home" under the US flag. I pray others might feel that same sense of belonging that I too often take for granted.

The shooter was known to some of the members and had attended there in the past. Sometimes these stories are more complex than we want to make them. I’m afraid there’s more to come on this story. Its easy - even for me to look at little churches like this like they’re dying. But, in reality so many churches in south Nashville are multi-ethnic and a lot more diverse than some of their larger suburban neighboring churches.

I don't watch balls games but this is pretty un-American of these players. When I heard of this yesterday, an old song by Merle Haggard came to mind. Like when he says " when you're running down our country , man , you're walking on the fighting side of me"

I support their right to peaceful protest, I do not support them. I don't care what they are protesting using the National anthem to do it is just wrong!!!!! It shows an utter disrespect for this country and its veterans no matter what they say about how much it doesn't. I will no longer watch any NFL games or purchase any NFL products, and will do my best not to buy anything that is advertised during the games. My way to protest their protest.

Simply put...I'm very ashamed of the Titans and every NFL team, coach, owner, administrator, and especially the players. And lets not forget Roger Godell( did I get that right?)

I have decided to sell my tickets each week to the opposing team fans. They already have my money so its the only way I know to really protest. Hopefully more do the same.

Screw the nfl, the anthem means so much to so many, except some ball carrying butt holes that will be broke in 10 years. I'm done w the titans and the nfl, NASCAR wouldn't allow their drivers or teams to pull that crap, NFL should follow suit Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The NFL is dead to me.

Pansies every one! Anyone that really believed in the cause would quit the NFL altogether and forfeit their contract. That would show em!

How to Sell Your Guns When the Market is Slow September 24, 2017 This is an article that I have been tempted to write on several occasions now, but each time I questioned whether the timing was right or if the message would be welcomed and so I postponed. Recently, however, there have been quite a few threads and individual comments made about the difficulties of selling firearms during a "slow market" so I think the time is right. But First, Some History... I do not want to dwell too much on this particular point, but I do believe that it is salient to pause for a moment and observe the current political climate as it has directly influenced the state of firearms sales across the nation. Up until the last US Presidential Election in November of 2016, the firearms industry was booming because people were afraid of both who was then currently, and who might have been next, occupants of the White House. Fear of scarcity or outright prohibition of a thing absolutely drives up demand for that thing, and subsequently the cost of that thing. During the Obama Administration, we lived under the constant specter of another weapons ban and we saw supplies of certain firearms and ammunition all but dry up. What was left to be found almost always had a high price tag assigned to it. When Donald J. Trump was elected, gun owners and prospective gun owners all sighed an enormous collective sigh of relief and practically overnight the firearms industry was dumped on its head. The fear was gone. The incentive to buy was gone. Warehouses of ammunition and firearms that had been rushed to production ahead of what could have been a Hillary Clinton White House were suddenly quiet and stagnant. And so, the firearms industry did what any industry does in cases like this: It suffered. It cut costs. I dumped products at prices that were unheard of a month before. The fire sale began, and it persists to this day. Why Should You Care About Any of That? The reasons any of that is important to you are these: That tactical rifle you bought a few years ago and paid nearly $2,000 for is probably being sold new today for less than half that price. That handgun you bought last year is probably anywhere from $50-75 cheaper this year, brand new, and probably comes with twice as many extra magazines straight from the manufacturer. Today, retailers are competing against you in your role as the Seller for the same sales you are trying to make. They are able to offer brand new merchandise today for prices that would have been reasonable for you to ask for a gently used item this time last year. To snare a buyer on the secondary market in this economy, you have to distinguish yourself and what you are selling in some way that makes it more appealing to the person debating between your gun and that brand new one in the store. So, How Do You Sell in a Slow Market? I have been paying very close attention to this for the past few months and these are my observations. They are not the gospel, but they seem to be holding up under their own merit so far. As with anything, there may be exceptions to any or all of these, and if that works in your favor then I am going to be very thrilled for you. Do your research. Check the retail pricing and availability of whatever you are trying to sell. Mark your price accordingly. Understand that if you are priced too close to retail for a new item, most folks will go buy the new item instead. Also, check and see if a new version or model of whatever you are selling has just been or soon will be released. Prices on old versions almost always go down when a new version is out or is imminent. Eat The Extras. Those expensive night sights that you put on your handgun? Consider eating the cost of those. Point that out as an incentive to buy your handgun rather than the one in the store that doesn't have them. The same goes for tossing in a few extra magazines if you have them, or other small accessories. Obviously, there is a limit to how much you should be willing to eat of the cost of an item, but even then be willing to discount whatever you are adding to the "package price" so that it is compelling to a shopper. Break Up The Package. If you don't want to eat the cost of too many extras, or if the price of your package offering seems to be turning shoppers away, consider breaking apart the package and offering the core item at a cheaper price and then liquidate the accessories separately. This is expecially helpful if you have non-regulated accessories that could be sold on social media sites (Facebook, Twitter, etc) that do not allow gun sales but do not prohibit accessories. Bigger audiences can mean quicker sales on those types of things. Understand The Impact of Modifications. This is going to hurt some feelings, but it has to be said. Modified guns are harder to sell. Think twice before you take a soldering iron (or pay someone else) to your Glock's frame to stipple it. The same goes for custom paint jobs or hydro-dipped graphics. Beauty is often in the eye of the beholder (YOU) in those things, and other people may not care for them at all. Don't be surprised if your stippled Glock with skulls and crossbones hydro dipped graphics doesn't sell quickly, or at all. Take Good Pictures. The addage that a picture is worth a thousand words is no more true than in advertising. People tend to want to see what they are buying. Take pictures of it and post them here or link to them elsewhere in your post. Ads without photos tend to be overlooked. Invest Some Time. If you post an advertisement, come back to it once a week and bump it back to the top of the "new items" search by replying to the thread. Reduce the price a little after a week or two, if you can. Be willing to engage with prospective buyers and answer questions. Entertain counter offers if you can. It takes a little time but it keeps your advertisement in front of eyeballs and that's what matters. Pull It Today and Sell It Later. Real estate brokers know that if a house has been on the market for too long, it goes "cold" and people stop looking at it. The buyers can see how long a house has been listed and assume something must be wrong with it if more than a reasonable amount of time has passed. Take a cue from that and de-list your items after a while if they don't sell. Come back later and list them again. I hope this helps you all in some way. The current environment is a buyer's market and biased against the seller, both at the retail level and on the used market. Gun stores are going out of business and folding up left and right. So are manufacturers. The ones who are surviving are relying on things other than gun sales to keep money and buyers coming through the doors. Now is the right time to buy firearms and ammo cheap and stack them deep. The political climate is guaranteed to shift again and when it does we will all find it hard to believe that we had it this good (as buyers) in days past. Above all, be patient. If you can afford not to sell a firearm right now, you might want to sit on it for another three years and see what happens with the next Presidential election. Trump has been GREAT for gun owners, but terrible for gun sellers. We might not be so lucky in the years ahead.

I've said it before, I'll say it again as many times as it takes. If you really want to do something effective about drug use/abuse then you will stop treating a health issue as a criminal one. I know it will be totally counterintuitive, especially to some of the LE types, but the true path forward is legalization.

Thanks guys. I hope this is motivation for everyone to get out there and get one. It is by far the best one I have gotten.

I don't know about every player who took a knee or raised a fist on Sunday, but Colin Kapernick as put his money where his knee is at least, being named the Week 1 Community MVP even as a free agent. He's been donating to various causes on the way to a total of a pledged million...not an insignificant amount when you consider he may never see another NFL contract again. https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/09/15/colin-kaepernick-nflpa-charity-community-mvp

Where have you been? "If I had a son..."

Yeah mine is dead so I need one pronto. Probably buying Saturday. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It's not meant as disrespect. They have a problem with something that is happening in our country, and are trying to raise awareness. Kap took a knee in order to get people to ask the question, so he could make a point. It was a well thought out method of raising awareness. What is disrespectful is allowing police officers to kill someone because they wanted to buy a little weed, or they didn't pay a city tax on a single cigarette. That's disrespectful. Its disrespectful that an officer can shoot a man for getting out his wallet after telling him to get out his wallet. That's disrespectful. You even have a good number of veterans, going back to WWII supporting these athletes. Those old guys didn't even choose to serve. They were drafted to die and yet they don't feel disrespected. This is much ado about nothing that will continue to divide us. We can't even say the pledge right now because it isn't true. "...one nation, indivisible, with justice and liberty for all." That's a blatant lie.

Anyone that shoots up any place is "Mental" No one in their right mind would do something like that. That is a big part of the problem overall.

They play the anthem in military theaters, and yes we stand for it. As to not complaining about the goof offs, there is a big difference between being lackadaisical and being totally disrespectful.

Well, I have quit buying cartons and gone to buy only a couple packs at a time which is slightly more costly which is also making it more of a deterent for me to smoke as many. I am also using a plan a buddy of mine used when he got ready to quit to see if it works for me. I get up at the same time each day and have my coffee and breakfast biscuit and I would have a smoke right after the biscuit. About a week ago I began doing the 1/2 hour program which means each day I have to wait 1/2 hour later each day before lighting up. Since I am up at 7AM on the first day I lit up right after my biscuit. The next day I waiting 1/2 hour after my biscuit which put me lighting up at 7:30 AM and then it was 8AM and so on and so forth and today it was 11AM when I lit up and I almost fell off and lit up early but held out. It is not normal for me to have as many cigarettes in a pack as I am having each night! I just hope I can stand firm and eventually reach the point that I run out of hours in a day to light one up and can be strong enough to push through it.................

As someone who is pro-freedom on just about everything, I'll just say that I believe the players have the right to express their opinions, including sitting or kneeling during the national anthem. The team owners also have the right to fire their employees if they violate orders not to sit or kneel during the national anthem. Everybody has the right not to patronize NFL games or any other form of entertainment if they find the entertainment or the performers offensive for whatever reason. However, all of those listed might want to bear in mind that their opinions don't limit the rights of others, and that their actions may produce reactions from others. If you sit during the anthem, as is your right, the team owner may bench you or fire you, as is his/her right. Whatever actions the team owners take or don't take may produce positive or negative responses from prospective ticket purchasers, who have the right to spend their money as they see fit. Respect the rights of others the same way you want them to respect yours, and whine less. It's a good guideline for most situations. My opinion, and worth every cent you paid for it. Cheers, Whisper

Good luck, Bersaguy! There are several quotes from Mark Twain about smoking. I think one of the best and most clever - which is about how difficult it is to stop smoking and not go back - is: "Giving up smoking is the easiest thing in the world. I know because I've done it thousands of times."

and it isn't a white on black shooting

I doubt the truth regarding this tragedy will ever be made public.

I hope this doesn’t spread over into college ball.

It is not gonna be good for their revenue. I didn't realize BHO paid teams to show patriotism starting in 2009. https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timothymeads/2017/09/24/draft-n2385792 most people don't think the flag represents white cops oppressing non white people. 20 years in the military and I never once heard that. This is pure left wing BLM politics brought in to the NFL. Disrespectful to say the least!

I'll start out by admitting that I know I make no difference in the matter... But the NFL will not be shown on any TV screen in my house...

RLTW!

I took an 8 point at 7:15 yesterday morning. It dressed 175. Biggest one yet for me.

Some of this weekend's therapy session. I was trying to empty a mag on each target fast as I could while staying on target somewhat, not sure what happened at 15 yards.

Dude would've been hit from every angle if that had happened in my church

It's been apart a few times.

As a former cop, im a law and order type guy. Do the crime do the time. But the drug issue is killing us. Lock 'em up aint working. It may be right, but it just aint working. Eliminating the source aint working either. I hate to not have a solution, but its taking over our country, between coming across the borders and #### being made right here...I bet 90 % of the crime in this country is drug related directly or indirectly.

See anywhere where the NRA did anything? They ARE jumping in and trying to get McConnell's boy elected in Alabama though...just like here, go with the incumbent, have Democrats lobbying RINOs to make sure we get no decent gun laws passed...

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Welcome to TGO, RScott. Stay safe!

Heck! A bud and I went this morning...but I didn't know photographic evidence was required! We shot the 5x5 Drill and the Dot Torture in the indoor range and after 0900 went and sighted in his suppressed 300 BLK red dot sight. Then we went and visited with Mike at Law Enforcement Sales for a bit...does that count? Disclaimer: Pics are from a previous trip.

Just give them this paraphrased Rudyard Kipling quote: "When they ask you why we died tell them because our fathers lied." 3T

While I'm not doubting you and would not be surprised if something like that did happen but Apocalyse Now was based on "Heart of Darkness", a book written by Joseph Conrad in 1899.