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If you have never been arrested it can be very, very traumatic. Imagine being forced, as an innocent person, to strip down to nothing and open up every nook and cranny in your body for inspection by a complete stranger. And when I say inspection I mean INSPECTION. Those officers will inspect places on her body that her husband has probably never seen. Argue at all, like proclaiming your innocence, and you can be tossed into a restraint chair. Then getting thrown into a cell with God knows who. And for someone who has never been in trouble before this is very traumatic. I don't believe anything should happen to the dispatch officer because people do make mistakes but the department needs to step up and do the right thing and apologize. But we will not see an apology, at least not initially, because an apology is an admission of guilt. It will not be until after any civil case that they will apologize, if they ever do. If I were an administrator I would be all over the media apologizing. I would also contact her and see what she wants then do everything in my power to make it happen. I would try to do everything I could to avoid going to court because juries can really do a number on a department and with sentiment towards LE today you would almost be guaranteed a huge payout if the jury had the right mix. And with all those mug shot newspapers and websites an innocent person will have their name slandered in minutes. Personally those mug shot places should only be allowed to post pictures AFTER a conviction. Just because someone is arrested does not mean they are guilty and it would seem like it is slanderous to post a picture and name of someone who has not been proven guilty in a court of law. I would like to throw this out. What probable cause did the officer have to search the serial number? She had a holster and I can understand disarming her while the officer dealt with the other individual but to run the serial number without probable cause would seem like a violation of the fourth amendment. If any of us were disarmed and our gun's serial number ran we would be really upset, especially if the gun you had is not tied to you. Despite the fact the officer had no PC the women was required to surrender the firearm so he could search. The officer should never have ran the serial number without being able to articulate why he believes he has the PC needed to investigate whether the gun was stolen. A holster does not mean the gun in it may be stolen, matter of fact a stolen gun would probably be a bit more hidden. Hope she gets her day in court and the jury awards her all she wants. In addition to suing for false arrest she should also sue the officer for violating her fourth amendment right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures. Also making the assumption that she put the firearm on because police were there is a bit over the top. Lets assume she did put her gun on just as they arrived. I often put my gun on before I get into a car and go anywhere as do a lot of us here. Then he goes and briefs the rest of the officers about how she armed herself when police arrived and how he is now nervous, that is EXACTLY how accidents happen.7 points
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Let's not forget that were it not for the efforts of WREG, the department/DA would have never admitted to the screwup.4 points
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The serial number snafu was human error. To what degree it was preventable with more attention to detail, I'm not sure. The root cause of our problem here is citizens being preemptively treated as criminals sans evidence for exercising RKBA. That needs to stop, but I'm not hopeful given the myriad examples we have to remind us where armed citizens stand in the eyes of the government and the law. The post from @Dolomite_supafly is spot on in what this woman had to endure. For someone not prepared for such, it can mess with them for a long time. I hope any HR reps screening her for a job see the article exonerating her before they disqualify her from the quick check because of the mugshot. If this woman ever has to seek mental health support, she better not pay a dime that isn't reimbursed riki tik. She deserves quite a bit more for the violations she had to endure, but that would be a start if needed. Props for the local news team for their part in surfacing this miscarriage of justice.2 points
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Haven't posted in a little while (I still lurk) so I thought Id contribute to the forum. This year I decided to pick a bow back up for the first time in about 18-ish years. The last time I hunted with a bow I was 13, Im 31 now. Earlier this year I picked up a Mathews z7 extreme, circa 2011 I believe. Its a great shooting bow. I recently picked up half dozen Victory Rip Elites to shoot as wheel. These arrows are lightning quick! We chrono'd them with my bow at 285fps with 100 grain field points., not to shabby for an "old" 60# bow! Cant wait for September to roll around. Here are a couple pics for your guys' enjoyment. This is the best group Ive shot so far with my set up. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk2 points
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I have to agree with Omega on this one for sure. I think police departments need to be held accountable for their mistakes as well as any other business is. They think becuase they are a Government agency they are above the law when actually they should be held just as accountable for their mistakes as any other company or individual would be.............JMHO2 points
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It has not been my experience to be treated as such, but yes many do. I don't think one should have to sue to get compensated, it should automatically be done to keep the system in check. If errors start costing the departments some operating funds, less errors are likely to occur, or at least more consequences for those making such errors.2 points
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Green River Gun Club (GRGC) of Bowling Green Kentucky will be hosting a Tactical Rifle match on Saturday July 29'th. 5 stages and approximetly 125 round minimum. Set-up at 8:00 am and shooting around 9:30 AM. Max distance 125 yards. For more info, go to GRGC's website: http://www.bggrgc.com/index.html1 point
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My Aunt (also a teacher) had twin brothers named Orangejello and Lemonjello. Think hillbilly French pronunciation. A friend's wife works in the neonatal unit of a hospital. She says it's practically daily that some couple names their kid Neveah or something like that thinking is so cute and original. The nurses are like yeah, you're only the 4th one this week. Her best story is a couple who wanted to name their daughter Deliverytruck. Pronounced del-li-vee-trik. The nurse took the paperwork and made it halfway down the hall before turning around. She walked back into the room and said "it's your business if you want that beautiful little girl to go through life named delivery truck, but I'm not putting my name on the paperwork. I'll just leave this here so you can think about it and maybe ask someone else to file it for you." They changed their mind, and thanked her the next day.1 point
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Got my lower assembly back from Ruger today. Fast turn around, 8 days from when I dropped it at the Post Office till it showed up back in my mailbox with the free magazine in place. Safety feels more positive, will run a couple of magazines through it tomorrow.1 point
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Maybe if you just went down there everyday and perched on top of one of stools bull####ting about the stupidest of things and blocking potentially paying customers who might like to see what's in the display case, they might do you a favor.1 point
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Free edible wild plant class in Crossville, TN on Aug 26 @ 8:00 AM CST. The class will last 3 hours be prepared to hike a mile or so. Class size is limited to 151 point
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I grew up in Denver, and there I fit the description just fine. Even here I am "close enough" to get a second look. The thing is, at least for me in Denver, I knew that Hispanics were the predominant race and committed much of the crime so expected that added scrutiny, it is only logical. I personally don't think "profiling" is as bad as everyone makes it out to be. If 90% of the crime is committed by a certain demographic, it is only reasonable to keep an eye out on that demographic. That is why when I am pulled over in Denver, I keep my hands on the wheel and maintain courtesy and composure while in that situation. I don't think anyone should be pulled over or treated worse because of it, but at the same time I understand if it takes a minute to make sure I am not going to be a problem.1 point
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It was a black black person with a gun. That would likely hold up as probable cause for most departments.1 point
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You probably don't "match the description" either.1 point
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Something else is how a wood stocked AK feels. I have a few AKs but the wood stocked ones are the ones that make me smile. Kind of like how a steel and wood handgun feels.1 point
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If you carry a gun, you will get treated like a criminal, regardless of whether you are or not. She should be able to sue, and win and be compensated for lost wages, any attorney fees, defamation of character, and whatever else her attorney can think of. This is ridiculous.1 point
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The officer should of issued a summons, instead of arresting her..its not like she was going anywhere. In the mean time the SN and her story could of been confirmed. At this point, an apology and reimbursement for all legal fees, lost wages/profit and inconvenience should be made.1 point
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She needs to just go ahead and Sue them for false arrest etc. because their apology does not even the score. She probably wont get anything but she can inconvenience them to the point they did her.1 point
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