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I was just going to say, why are we teaching armed citizens how to interact with police when it seems the police quite urgently more need the lesson on how to interact with armed citizens.

My home state was also the battleground for the creation of this beautiful country against the British. It's sad how The northern states who fought for freedom and liberty are so anti those sediments today with California. I am from northern NJ. Sussex county area. It is beautiful rural and mountainous terrain below the pocconos in Pennsylvania. Most people up that way are very pro freedom and liberty. Nothing like most other areas of NJ that you see on TV. The new divide in this country is pro liberty or pro big government. I chose my side and I couldn't be happier. Thank you all again for the welcome.

Yes, understand, thus making the distinction as 'legally permitted'. As some have made reference, sometimes with a computer check that info may already be available, but of course that doesn't mean the registered owner is the driver nor does it clear passengers. Approaching any vehicle is right up there with domestics for danger. I don't blame any LEO for being super cautious. Given the number of stops/encounters it is a wonder there are not more incidents.

Go back and watch. It's just about the most disgusting thing ever aired.

I think that training should go both ways. In recent shootings, very nervous LEO's have been involved.

Thank you all for the welcome! I moved away from lame brain ideas! I will do anything in my power to not have those types of ideas come here!

Yep I did it, been working on this for a few weeks. Picked up the pan and drippers from ebay. Coolant is cheap wally world fabric softener. Ammo cans stacked so the ramp is just clear of the coolant, large can to catch the over flow of coolant. I am using an electric stove top element and mapp torch to get things going and to keep the drippers flowing. The drippers will cool a bit and the torch keeps them warm. I made 5 lbs in about 30 mins, not bad for 3rd try. Size is 7 to 9 shot, some 11.

You should build one next, just sayin'.

Welcome to TGO! You'll like it here.

These things happen..................

The problem is goverment employees can't be ordered to give a statement and that be used against them in court. Garrity rights. He may have given a statement for internal investigation but not criminal investigation. Also I seem to have read something about their laws in relation to giving a statement. Either way I'm not against training about interacting with lawfully armed people but I think isn't something we need the legislature doing. It's one of the things I go over with rookies when there in training.

Rep. Mike Rogers' amendment was included in the House version of the NDAA which passed today. If the Senate passes it (and they probably will) then I think the Army has to release the surplus 1911s to the CMP. http://www.personaldefenseworld.com/2017/07/cmp-1911-pistols/

I was up in the air on it. Two things 1) I did love how they FINALLY started pulling the entire show together as far as a battle for the kingdoms, but there was so little action for the first 50 minutes of the show 2) the last 10 minutes were awesome.

I forgot to ask, what exit? Hahahaha

Welcome to TGO and Tennessee, Ain't it funny how the North use to brag about winning the Civil War yet the Yankees are moving south in large numbers to get away from the supposed winning side............ Gotta love it when folks finally come to their senses and do the right thing. I just hope when you left NJ you left all of them bad habits up there. I still have family in Middlesex, NJ and I told them to stay up there cause I know them and they will bring their bad habits with them.................

Did this last night. Herringbone 8 thong braided horse lead. I really don't like the two ferrules I used but they were what I had on hand. Need to source something better.

Very unlikely a legally, permitted citizen will shoot a cop. Statistically people with permits are the least likely to commit a crime and this includes LEO as a group. Now that doesn't mean LEO should be nonchalant about approaching any vehicle, but as Randall noted, this should create a more friendly interaction once the permit is shown. The Castille case was an unfortunate incident that both sides should learn from. The Damond case just seems wrong all the way around

I was trying to make a pervy joke about Missandei being ridiculously hot. I saw it. It was terrible. I gagged a little.

Welcome

My wife and I are on season 2 and trying to catch you guys. I've never seen such an amazing mixture of bare breasts and violence until now!

Welcome!

Welcome to TGO.

FJCruising pointed out that he already is a benefactor, which means #13 in the list now takes the slot. That means @Someotherguy gets it!

Welcome Damn. I hope you like it here enough to fight to keep things the way they are, flawed as they may be. It's a great place to be and remember we're the patron state of shooting sh!++.

Howdy Mike and Welcome to Tennessee and TGO

Welcome to this beautiful part of America! dont ever support any lame brain ideas that some might propose here that resemble the PRNJ! The off road riding is fantastic here! Enoy freedom!

I agree with you 1000% Dave! Teaching needs to begin at home but to many times it goes in one ear and out the other as peer pressure seems to make all the teaching useless. That is one thing I pounded into my boys and they pounded it into their sons and they have never disrespected a police officer yet cause none of them have ever been arrested for anything.........."Knock on Wood again" I even have 1 grandson that is a Duputy Sheriff in Cheatham County. I have been stopped a couple times over tha past 10 or so years for different things and if the officer asks me to search my car I give them permission every time after we have the gun situation cleared up which always goes smooth and by the book. Kids now days think they know everything and are smarter than Mom and Dad. They are taught a lot of that in public schools. It still never hurts to try and teach them...............JMHO

Alrighty folks... the results are below. If your name is highlighted in yellow, you are among the 12!! I will get these activated later today!

Picked these up Friday. First up is a nice used MAK. First pic is how she came home and the second is in regular furniture. The other is NIB, which is rare to find these days. Better quality that the new stuff on the market for sure. Finding two in the same place at the same time is seldom at best. These were not "steals" but comparable in price to the C39 stuff. These are some of the best quality AK examples that were ever imported in the country.

Welcome, and enjoy Tennessee. If we find you've brought any of that liberal crap with ya, however, we're sending you back!

Greetings all, its been awhile since I've been on, but I wanted to show off my new carry rig done in Cognac Caiman and black leather. Just wanted something for those special occasions, lol.