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I do realize that reloading isn't convenient for you guys with younger families. As I am well on my way to ancient it's a lot easier for me. Add to that I have bought supplies for several years prior to the current price increases and shortages. So in a way I'm doing a public service by not needing to purchase much of anything. You're welcome.....lol

You call this snow? I saw more snowflakes during the election

I hope the Walmart .22 hoarders are going to have a difficult time

Around McMinn County it runs about $100 per yard. In Loudon County where I am building a new house and just had to buy 40 yards, it runs $140 per yard. Quite a difference. Seems like I was told a yard would pour 84 square feet 4 inches deep. Looks like you might need about 11 yards. My guess for the concrete would be $1200 to $1500.

New here - New to TN, new to TGO, and new to Bourbon. Over the past few days, I've read all 48 pages of this thread. Learned a lot. How does one get to be 60 years old and never try Bourbon? Except for Drambuie, which I do love, I've always been a beer drinker. But, the wife and I went out to eat a couple months ago, and the beer selection sucked, so I ordered one of my riding buddies' favorite drinks, Makers Mark with very little ice. Not to bad, so I tried it a few more times...Still good. Last week I stopped into the local store where I get my beer, and on a whim bought some 70/30 Black Label from Knox Whiskey Works, which is a relatively new distillery in Knoxville. Turns out it is a sourced product, but still pretty tasty. I happen to live in Knoxville, and it turns out I am down by the liquor store Mike.357 works at, pretty regularly. Hoping to stop there soon and meet him, and pick up some good beginner Bourbon to try. Thanks for all the information, gang.

Not necessarily. Section (a), parts (1) & (2) leave open the award for those who would have flown over in a combat action.

Not in a looooonnnng time . I've got more than I can shoot in 3 lifetimes.

head to the store! buy all the bread!

If you did so it would be doing all of us a favor.

Gunsmithing Services View Advert Hey guys, many of you know me here but I've had a lot of folks inquire about services or see something and not know that I offered that. My biz name is a little misleading I apologize for that. I'm a full service gunsmithing shop that does 99% labor type work. I moved my shop to Oliver Springs a little over a year ago. Things are running great so I wanted to throw this out there in case you need anything I can provide. First and foremost I will work on almost anything. I have been working on guns for 35 years now. Started off at my grandfather's pawn shop back in the early 80s. I moved to Oak Ridge in 2008 and opened Law Enforcement Sales early 2010 and have been steady smithing since. Since inception I have had a 07/02 manufacturing license for both title 1 and title 2 firearms. Began heavily on the LE side but my customer base has grown more than I could have ever imagined and I now do way more work for the general public. Little about me, I have been a commissioned law enforcement officer since 2001, worked 7 years as a SC State Constable working all over the state. I am currently serving as a Sergeant with the Anderson County Sheriff's Department which I joined in 2008 and have been an active Reserve Deputy with them since. I am also a VP at Wells Fargo bank working in their securities/loss area as a Software Engineer. I've compile a list of things I usually work on but again, the sky is the limit. I will 100% be upfront if there is a job I am not comfortable with. I have not done everything but I have found I tend to get the more difficult jobs around the area none of the other smiths want to deal with. I feel my prices are very competitive and I always charge what a job is worth not what my time invested is. Services Sales Affiliated with most the industries distributors. I don't do much retail because of TN's sales tax it's currently impossible to compete with the internet. I want you guys to get the best price you can but I do have those customers who want to buy from me and I don't mind helping search something down and getting it. I am a East TN SilencerCo SPEQ dealer. They offer great prices to LE, Military, First Responders (EMS, etc.). Call for special pricing. They offer a couple times per year this discount to Veterans too. Transfers Title 1 transfers - $20 INCLUDEDs TBI background. I WILL accept transfer in from private parties and it doesn't matter if I can get the item or even have the item in stock - no games! Title 2/NFA transfers - $35 - I'll happily help/review your paperwork. Been in NFA for 30 years. 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My conversions do not use that ugly recoil rod that most do that has to protrude through the middle of the rear stock. Everything is internal. MACs UZIs VK59s List could go on and on .... ALL of the above can also be machined to post sample select fire status for LE agencies Refinishing Parkerizing Cerakote Duracoat At the moment I do not do cammo patterns. Sorry I have a couple of master refinishers I can refer you to for those services. Handguns RMR/Reddot milling -not just flat, proper radiused front WITH all 4 indexing posts (RMR) Slide serrations, windows, etc. Sight removal/install Dovetail milling Recoil/Hammer Stud replacement (revolvers) Cylinder Reaming/Honing Picatinny/Weaver rail drill/tapping, etc. General repair / parts replacement If I can't find a replacement part I can often machine something. I do a lot of fixing stuff.. machine guns, rifles, heir looms, etc... Custom Machining Above is just a sample of services I can do. I have 2 production class HAAS CNC machines, both a Lathe and a 4th Axis VMC. I also have a 54" Monarch lathe that I haven't ran out of room with and an old Bridgeport milling machine. Old 1940s vintage good stuff! I do odd work on non guns stuff too - Motorcycle parts, RV car parts, you name it. I co host a 3-4 machinegun shoots across the states and neighboring areas per year. If you'll follow my facebook page https://www.facebook.com/LawEnforcementSalesTN/ or our hosting page https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=beltfed brothers we'll post our event information. It's a nice opportunity to get some real seat time behind a lot of the equipment we don't normally get to shoot. We have a M134 Minigun (4K rd/min), Several M60s, M240, couple of M249s, M16s, Mp5s, slew of other fun stuff. Don't be Knob Creek and watch come shoot for yourself!! I also post smithing jobs I'm working on as time permits. Feel free to IM or email me for any service questions. 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Don't forget the concrete needed for the foundation. For a 24x40 slab, that will be another 9-10 yards. I always used 80 sq. ft for the amount of square footage that a yard would poor on a 4" slab, which allows for small differences in elevation and some waste. Figure about 21-22 yards to include a perimeter foundation of 1x2 ft. in addition to the slab. I always liked pouring on fill sand and gravel as a base, along with wire for reinforcement and plastic for a vapor barrier which will also figure into the totals. Admittedly I've been out of that line of work for many years, folks may have very different ideas about how slabs are poured these days. These estimates do not include anything for the cost of finishing, I have no idea what that runs now.

Not sure how up to date this is but here you go 68-15-303. As the owner of a small business i do not have a public restroom. Seems I do remember having a conversation with a friend that has a retail business and by law if you do not have a public restroom a person with certain medical or physical disabilities must be allowed access to employee restrooms if they request it. I'm sure someone will come along with current knowledge on the subject.

For anyone interested... We ended up taking the Guns and Leather class. Good info. Good pacing. Engaging. (Mike, if you're reading this, good job!) In addition to what was needed to apply for the permit, we went away with a lot of significant food-for-thought. Perhaps I'm a little naïve, but the only real surprise was in what seems to me to be a pretty low passing threshold in TN for being licensed to carry a handgun. I know the sate has to find balance between not stepping on 2nd-Ammendment rights and public safety but I guess I wouldn't think more than 30 test questions and higher target accuracy expectations to be unreasonable.

Well let us get into a little bit of context here...... What the Former Saturday Night Live Comedian (FSNLC) who won an election with votes found in the truck of a car weeks after the polls closed asked to a highly skilled and experienced lawyer was this...... Senator FSNLC - "Now, again, I'm telling you this as it's coming out, so you know. But if it's true, it's obviously extremely serious and if there is any evidence that anyone affiliated with the Trump campaign communicated with the Russian government in the course of this campaign, what will you do?" Sessions - "Senator FSNLC, I'm not aware of any of those activities. I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign and I didn't have, did not have communications with the Russians, and I'm unable to comment on it." So taken in context Sessions statement was truthful because he met with the Russian ambassador in his capacity as a senator, not as a Trump campaign surrogate. Senator FSNLC asked during the hearing about communications between Russia and the Trump campaign — not about meetings Sessions took as a senator and a member of the Armed Services Committee. To help with some understanding on how these congressional hearing go (and I've had the misfortune to be a bag-dragger to a couple) lets puts this in a Firearms Related example using a RUSSIAN theme..... Senator FSNLC - "Now, again, I'm asking and it is obviously extremely serious, did you buy from Cope's Distributing RUSSIAN AK-74 plum Izhevsk-made magazines?" DMark - "Senator FSNLC, I'm not aware that Cope's Distributing ever listed RUSSIAN AK-74 plum Izhevsk-made mags for sale, and I'm unable to comment on it." And my statement to Senator would be truthful and correct because Copes listed these magazines as Bulgarian. Bulgarians never made Plum polyamide (nylon) parts at all, they were all Soviet produced and later sold to Bulgaria. The Bulgarians painted them black and exported them to the USA. But I will admit if I was asked "DMark did you buy those AK-74 mags that Cope's listed as Bulgarian for the purpose of stripping off the paint to see if they were sanitized RUSSIAN mags......" My answer would have to be, "Well HELL YEA!"

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And milk, don't forget the milk. How would you ever survive without the 3 extra gallons of milk?

I have determined that to be a normal state of affairs. You either move on or live with it. And you can never have too many guns...or tools. Tools are good too.

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22 TCM is my oddball.

I have only had the one, but the kids have a few others. Haven't heard them cuss them, or rave about them. Here is a thought that popped in my head....if you consider the Phoenix. They make a deluxe range kit that has a 5" and a 3" barrel, regular 10shot and extended 10shot magazine, gun cleaning kit, carry case, etc. $200

You're gonna love this little gun! I've got two of them and they are unbelievably accurate even with the surplus ammo. They have a bit of recoil and I've found the trigger guard can remove skin from your trigger finger. It will also fling empty cases about two or three shooting bays over. Often when you change mags you'll notice all the other shooters around you are staring.

You have embarked on a difficult journey. I have been trying to decide and a buy a .22 caliber handgun for months now. I have had several in years past both semi-auto and revolver, but have not had one in probably 20 years. First I had to decide what I wanted...then I realized that .22 handguns are like rods and reels for bass fishing...I need a different one for different applications. So now I have decided I want a Ruger SR22, Full frame SA Revolver (Uberti etc.), and a Smith & Wesson 4 to 6 inch revolver or possibly a Taurus 992 or 94. Nothing like being decisive and narrowing down the field. So then I decided I would just watch TGO classifieds and Armslist and go for what became available first at a decent price. Now I learned that people in West TN and Middle TN sell guns, people in East TN buy guns. Guess which end of the State I live in. Oh well, I really do enjoy the hunt. Good luck and I hope you are pleased with what you decide on.

The more you remove the original finish, the less the gun is worth. Oil them down well....with SBGO would be my choice. The trigger situation on the 1897 is probably just due to wear on the sear, a common finding on them. The OFM 500C is the only Model 500 I know of that came in 20ga [also available in 12ga]. The 500 was designed in 1960 and had a single action bar, but was changed to a dual action bar in 1970 when Remington's patent ran out.

I shot a Phoenix HP22 not long ago, and I didn't have any problems. 8 rounds, and I don't know what ammo. [It was one of the grandkids that said "Papa, shoot my new gun"] I've had a PT-22 for several years, and never had it function reliably that I can remember. I do need to go test it again, and take the Mosquito with it [another nice .22lr that isn't reliable] I will say this....the PT-22 is a sweet little single shot, and will easily fit in the pocket, any pocket, VERY comfortably. I really like it, and it also gets carried around the property, to the mailbox, etc. Very easy (and fast) to use as a single shot. [side note] I have a GSG 1911 .22lr [Birthday gift from the kids] that I put a CWA Performance Enhancement Kit on. It is 100% reliable with any ammo, but it is a full size 1911 5"bbl. I bought a Taurus M94 SS 5" in 2001. I have heard some problems with them a couple years ago, but never had a problem with mine. It is a plow mule, a mud wrestler, and super accurate. It doesn't care what you feed it, or how much, and performs the same whether it has just been cleaned or it's covered in soot. It has seen a lot of use, and is still as tight as when new. Only one con, and the Taurus M94 is notorious for it.......it has a really heavy hammer spring......no, I mean a REALLY heavy hammer spring. Two or three cylinders in single action, and your thumb is sensitive. Always planned on filing down the spur a little, but I cringe about grinding on guns [yeah, maybe not the same thing,eh?] I just deal with it, so have the kids. I have a couple friends that have replaced the spring with lighter ones, but they have had light strikes. I leave it as is, enjoy it, and don't go fixin' anything that ain't broke. Double action is ok, but the springs are so heavy it's not near as accurate.

This ^^^! 100% agree as it's my practice as well. Just doing my part to make it easier for my peers.

Let me preface this by saying, I am not, never been a SEAL. I never applied, went to or graduated BUDS. I was an Aviation Machinists Mate who got lucky and did a tour at the Navy SERE school. I got to work closely with some of the SEALs (we called them fish eaters). This was in the late 90's and the SEALs went through the regular SERE training tract. These days they have a SERE school tailored for them so they do not attend the school I taught. I also taught DEST (Desert Environmental Survival Training) and Team 3 was keenly interested in that course. I had a student from Team 3 and he and I hit it off. We were students together at another course. As I moved up in the DEST program I started hooking my contact up in Team 3 to make sure his guys always had a billet. As such I got to use some of their stuff. I ensured his Team had a slot and I would call him up and see what stuff and gear he could loan me. The gear these guys had and the budget, even then, was mind boggling. I came from aviation and its standard run of the mill to not have money for parts. I called him one day asking if he could loan me some weapons and "stuff". I needed them to be outfitted for simunitions. He and his team went overboard. I drove away with, well lets just say an amazing amount of stuff, gear, weapons, ordnance, and other fun things. As they were loading it for me I asked my buddy where do I need to sign for custody, he just laughed and said he knew where I worked. LOL I ended up deploying with that guy in 01 and when he came aboard he shunned the normal Navy brass BS and hung with me in the mech shop. He stayed in and went on to bigger and even better things. So to bring this derailment back on track, all these Ft Lbs measurements make my largest caliber seem down right wimpy, the 375 H&H Mag which can get upwards of 4,500 ft lbs

Well I am striving to be buying out powder and components as soon as I can. Lol

Maybe you haven't shot enough today. Go blow though a couple hundred rounds. It cures what ails ya....

Nothing on Facebook worth regurgitating here?

Y'all still buy ammo?

I'll offer to buy all they hoarded.......for $0.03 a round. Lol

Thats cute..3-6

With the way the weather has been forcasted around here lately, I'm expecting anything except what they say

Midway has glock mags on sale. The 33 round is $25. Just fyi

I think I might have found a 2 inch Taurus 94 to fit this role. Just happens, I saw one for sale right at a good price after xtriggerman replied. I will see if I like is as much when I get to handle it. I am still looking at possibly getting a Taurus PT-22 or a Phoenix semi as the semi option for this function. Never hurts to have options and neither of those are expensive. Since this is not my "life or death" gun and will be bounced around in a bag, I am not worried so much with it being the top of the line. Just fun, small, and reasonably reliable. I can see that, I have an affinity for Smith Revolvers....just not the budget most days....

There's really 2 different questions here. "What accuracy standards are we training to be able to achieve?"... and ..."what accuracy standard do we train with to achieve that?". For me personally (and professionally) we try to direct everything into the diaphragm to neck area (nipple to neck triangle) and/or the face (eyebrow to nose triangle) and that runs the complete circumference of the target ....front, back, sides. Those are vital zones and areas most likely to MAKE people stop what they are doing....not just hurt them and leave the decision to stop up to them. I'm not at all saying other areas don't hurt...I'm saying all we know about anatomy and biology leads us to those two areas being the most likely to stop people. As to standards to practice? I like smaller targets. The 3" shoot n see" targets are what I normally use in class as the "optimum" with an 8.5x11" sheet of paper behind it as "still acceptable". By using that we focus on a smaller area and are then most likely to keep even our "misses" in the vital zone area or at a minimum in the torso / minus 1 zone on an IDPA target or C zone of an IPSC target. In my own practice I personally use the pasters from the "shoot n see" targets as my target to aim for and anything within a hand span of that is acceptable which gives about a 3/4" target and a 6" Acceptable Zone. For distance (15yds to 50yds or farther?) I use a 45% IPSC steel target which pretty much covers diaphragm to neck or chin and inside the nipples on most people. By shooting smaller targets you get a better grasp of sight alignment and trigger control and can apply the same skills to hit at much farther distances. After a day of shooting at 3" targets at 5 yards a torso sized target at 25 is easy.

Welcome to TGO!

Welcome to TGO.

Welcome Heath!

Welcome!

Back in 1966, during the height of the cold war, we were going through the Straits of Gibraltar and the lookouts picked up a periscope off our starboard side. Shortly thereafter, a Russian surface ship pulled up close and escorted us into Naples. Later that night we ran into part of their crew in the Cactus Bar (Don’t even ask, how I remember the name of the bar, that’s another story). We were on opposite sides of the room and having a good time, then someone suggested we buy them some drinks. Needless to say, they were surprised, and even more so when we motioned them over to our table. We pushed several table together until we had room for everyone (there must have been 10-12 of them and about the same number of us). I don’t know if they could understand us and I know we had no idea what they were saying but we were having a hell of a good time. I can remember one of them pointing at our Dolphins and making a motion of going under water. When we confirmed it, he shook his head and made a negative motion with his hand, then a circular motion around his ear like we were crazy. He got a round of applause for that . Later on, they seemed to be embarrassed about not being able to buy rounds of drinks but we assured them, it was no problem and footed the bill ourselves. All was going well until the Shore Patrol showed up. It seems that the fact that we were partying with the “enemy” got back to the boat and we were ordered to return to the boat immediately. The Shore Patrol got a little tiffed because before we left, we paid for another round of drinks for our new buddies. I don’t know what they went through, but we were grilled about what was discussed at the bar. The only thing we were able tell them was the Russians didn’t have as much money as us, could drink like a fish, and liked the ladies with a little meat on their bones.

Had a Russian motorcycle which was a blast. I did meet a Russian on a Danish cargo ship and it turned out he had one too. Got this from a friend in Germany, apparently the ruskies liked to trade. I haven't tapped it yet but if I keep reading left wing crap I might!

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Thanks to all of you for helping me avoid trouble. And that starts with a "T," and that rhymes with "P," and that stands for Penitentiary. (Remember "Music Man?") And thanks to Oh Shoot for the tip about Fighting Sheep Dog, I've sent an email to them to get info on how to get this done.

Interesting caliber. I just picked up a CZ-52 in 7.62 Tokarev a few months ago. I haven't been out to shoot it yet. The nice thing about the CZ is that this gun fits PERFECTLY in all my 1911 holsters, even the Blackhawk Serpa's. Just need to get a range trip scheduled . . . .

Well if you want to go for maximum effect then nothing short of this is an option. 50 BMG Rocks!

I have the feeling that thing is unpleasant to shoot.

Welcome to my parlor said the spider to the fly. Mossberg 500A (12 Gauge) with Overmold stock and lazer/light combo. S&W 686 .357 Magnum.