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This old Sergeant Major is on his last day of forty years of service. It's been a love/hate relationship. LOL. I have had the greatest job is the world, taking care of Soldiers. Sent from my BLU LIFE ONE X using Tapatalk

Yea, I am bored so just clicking around the web. It showed up in the unread content link so I tried going in just to come away with a bloody nose when the door was locked.

Come On In Brother....., The Water Is Fine! D. Mark, U.S. Army - Retired

I never cease to be amused (...not amazed... i'm too old for that..) at the lengths that some of our brothers and sisters here go to justify the actions of a bunch of hoodlums.. The fact of the matter is that this guy was a damned hoodlum... He and his wife or girlfriend were sittin in a public place and he branished a gun to a couple of cops that pulled up on unrelated business... He paid the price this idiotic (...and unlawful...) behavior and for disregarding repeated commands to drop a firearm... My guess is that if he had have listened to the police and his wife, he would be here today... He aint... You that think this recently deceased citizen was unjustly put upon need to think about this... Channon Christian and Chris Newsome pulled into an apartment complex some years ago and were kidnapped, brutalized, and murdered in the worst kidnap-murder ever committed (...that we know of...) in Tennessee history; and that's since 1796... They committed no crime that we know of; but there were hoodlums and savages sittin there and grabbed them up... Maybe someone should have checked on their killers... In case ya think that aint important, just think a bit and insert your loved ones names into that situation; and you will more clearly understand why this policing and "law and order" thing is so important... It deters or prevents crime... All kinds of it, from the most heinous to the most innocuous that most folks quibble about the most... RE: Back to the issue at hand... You, me, nor anyone else; except maybe the wife or girlfriend, knows for sure why they were sittin there... My bet is that it wasn't to go to a bible study or to comfort a sick friend... The fact is that you, me, nor anyone else will ever know the truth of this matter... The libertarians and free spirits among us seem to think that anytime the police ask a question, make a contact, or even shoot a hoodlum; it's somehow an "unjust stop and question".... On the one hand, everybody wants to be safe, on the other hand the police are the oppressive enemy... It is amazing, indeed... The truth of the matter is that police are under attack everywhere... They are edgy and nervous; and they well should be... All that bein said; anyone who is approached by LE should pay attention... Failure to do so could cause you to assume room temperature... The truth is that the police have "police power" and they can detain you and ask you questions.... They can also defend themselves if they think you are a threat to them or someone else... They can even shoot you for tryin to run away, if they deem you a threat to themselves or others... You all are gonna have to accept that unpleasant truth... There are plenty of ways for citizens to voice their grievances in court for an "unjust stop"... There ain't any way to undo a shooting for failure to comply with police commands to drop a weapon... The "police oppression" jhadists in the black community are lookin for one thing, and one thing only... They want a different protocol for approaching black suspects than for the rest of us other citizens; or even a "pass" for criminal activity... More than that, there are folks in the black community who are tryin to do the right thing that have stood up and said that many of these protesters are paid outsiders... My... My... I wonder why that is...? Could it be that someone or something is trying to stir up trouble...?... The truth of the matter is; i think, that there are some folks in very responsible and powerful position in this country that want a "South Africa" attitude where some folks are allowed to run wild and commit crime as long as the "right folks" are wronged... They give lip service to "law and order", but are ok with killin, stealin, and law breakin, as long as it's directed at whitey or some other out of favor group that's victimized.... You that side with this sort of foolishness need to think about that a bit and do some readin about what is goin on in South Africa... It's horrifying... The fact of the matter is that you are gonna have to have law and order, with all it's real and perceived injusties and inconveniences for potential malefactors; or you are gonna have no law at all...There is nothin in between the two choices... I doubt that even the most hardy of the "victim's advocates" and "unjust stop" jhadists among us want the latter... Your mileage on this issue may vary... non carin leroy... the dismissive "law and order" geezer

Well please allow me to offer this advice......, Tell everyone that you are Semi-Retired. When folks hear "retired" they'll find stuff for you to do for them and they will expect that you will do it for free! Congratulations - - - You just got some free consulting and my billable hour is $105.00.

Ditto...but you could add a sweet 1894 Marlin in .357 just for kicks, I did.

Congrats, welcome to the club. Only did 21 here, out in 04'. Still miss it sometimes, then I have a beer and get over it

Well from personally experience a Ruger LCR or SP101.

One of my favorites is an old Smith & Wesson model 28 with 6" barrel. Very accurate and that big N-frame really tames the recoil. Same gun as a model 27 but not as fancy a finish. They are still somewhat affordable by used S&W standards but the prices are steadily going up.

I have had a mod 65 pinned and recessed for over 30 years that is great to shoot. Looking back I wish I had bought a 55 gallon drum of them at $ 175.00.

Well the obvious answer is a 686 4". Although IMHO the 6 inch is the more accurate shooter. So buy both....

My feelings were not hurt at all. The funny part was that I began observing who they were pulling aside and the majority of people I observed being screened had beards and semi athletic or athletic builds.

12 + 1 rounds. They finally did it.

Trust me, Mac... I was seeing them in realtime. I do appreciate it though. I'm frankly surprised it was even able to get that 503 error out with the server load as high as it was.

I bailed on Tapatalk a while back. I really like the mobile version of most forums I visit. And the last round of tweaks has really increased the speed of TGO.

Dontcha want a cool traditional cowboy gun in the mix? Get the convertible, and you can shoot 9mm too. - OS

586....blue smiths are the best smiths

You're likely to see a Unicorn dancing in the back yard before finding one of those.

That very thing has happened to me. A year after I retired our son was born. I am a full time stay at home dad to a now 10 y/o and parent volunteer at his school. I fix stuff there, make stuff for them and spend a lot of my time there.

I like Ruger's "aggressive" marketing and new products, but is this narrower, shorter, lots cheaper than the other already established compact 9mm carry pistols?

No second career for me. Lol

What's your budget? I'd suggest a classic Smith and Wesson, like a model 27 4 inch. A Model 28 isn't quite as pretty, but the same gun for less money, just without the checkered topstrap and polished finish. If money is no object, Go with a Registered Magnum, or a Colt Single Action Army. The 357 is a versatile round, and one if my favorites as well. If you aren't stuck on a handgun, my Puma 92 Winchester copy always puts smiles on the faces of anyone who shoots it.

My trail gun is a S&W 60-10 and is my favorite .357. Many people call it a mini-686.

LOL... everyone wants to know what's behind the doors they can't open. Honestly, that is a new feature that isn't ready yet. Nothing to see here. This isn't the link you are looking for.

There is more to this story. I am not sure what it is, but there is definitely more to the story.

This picture was taken on a road near where I live. I drive to and from work on this road pretty much every day of the week and also drive it on most weekends. I have seen these little guys (or gals?) on multiple occasions over the past, couple of months but this was the first chance I had to get a picture of them (could see them from far enough away as to not spook them and no vehicles behind me.) The first time I saw them I believe that they were literally (and I am not a person who says 'literally' when I really mean 'figuratively' - I mean 'literally') only a day or two old. They were, of course, in full spots at the time and, being triplets, were pretty tiny. Now they each only have a few spots left, mostly on hind quarters. The mama was with them - she was on around the curve. We see sets of twins pretty much every year over on the other side of the bluff but this is the first set of triplets I believe I have ever seen. With the coyotes, etc. we have out there I think it is pretty amazing that the doe was able to keep all three of them alive to this point, especially as she isn't all that big a girl, herself. She is pretty small for an adult doe. I figure that now they have a pretty good chance of making it to adulthood. She must be a danged good mama!

Look for an older S&W M-66 or 686 with 4"barrel. If you go with something newer or brand new you'll be dollars ahead if you go with a Ruger GP-100 and just do your best to shoot the stuffing's out of it. Spring kits are DIY easy installs and further action work isn't always necessary.

Since he already has that snubbie Smith I think he needs a longer barreled model. I say a GP100.

I retired after 21 yrs, but that was 33 yrs ago . Thanks for your service and enjoy your retirement.

I'd get another 686 with a 6" barrel or........ Like FortKnox said a Ruger!

I just love to help other people spend their money. I say it's time to go exotic. It's not a wheel gun and it exceeds your barrel length maximum by 1 inch but you may be able to get into this cheaper than a Colt. Magnum Research .357 - 6" barrel available at Buds.

Because our wives make us take the kids.

Well fantastic. Guess we get to see how this plays out over the coming months.

UPDATE 9/30/2016 @ 8:15AM Central Several improvements have been realized over the past two days. During off-peak hours, most TGO pages seem to be loading extremely fast. During our peak times of early morning, midday and evening hours, the site is holding its own and page loads aren't abysmally slow the way they were the first few days on the new sever. You may also notice that all profile photos, file attachments, emoticons, forum icons, etc. are now serving off of Amazon Web Services. Those things load just as quickly as you would expect from Amazon's insanely powerful web delivery engines. Over time I will move even more of our content to AWS so that we can leverage their infrastructure. In the meantime I am continuing to chip away at things and will be bringing some new features online that I think you will enjoy.

Bravo Zulu! I retired from the Navy in 05 with 20 served. Glad I did it and glad its was over.

How about a good lever gun? A model 60 or a 627 would be my choice.

There is not a more versatile handgun than a 4-5" barrel .357 revolver. I'd go for quality. The Colt Trooper III or earlier models are still kind of reasonable. The Manurhin M73 was a pleasure to shoot. A bunch were imported a couple years ago. And a pre-1980 Colt Python is probably the best revolver made in the US. But prices on those are over $2000 for a good one.

Get another Smith!! Something with a six inch barrel and start realizing the potential of that awesome caliber!! I'm not that impressed in the Rino lineup.

I'm surprised that they didn't have a still and grow operation

WOW! So I guess this means that 173rdABN isn't as big a HK junkie as I figured he was.........

I'm finding it kind of interesting. Its an unusual twist on the SHTF scenario. Yeah, it does have a definite liberal bias. But then so does any TV show that deals with politics. I'm more interested in the lady FBI agent and who done it. I think it'll turn out to be an inside job. As long as it doesn't get too political or soapy, I'm gonna give it a chance.

"Authorities said the sites had been baited with “candy and bread making the hunt unethical by discouraging fair chase.” Hell - small children would be drawn to this! Lol

...thats the sad part about all this really

Knocked that outta the park, Leroy. Comments could be made on the minutia but that's the problem today. People simply cannot see the forest for the trees.

I have joined this forum initially to simply read this thread... initially. I then realised what a supportive and wonderful bunch of guys you all, pushing into new territory particularly for rifle bullets. I'm casting for a 243, 90 grain cast bullet, and given a 243 relies massively on it's BC it's motivated me to make my own molds and powdercoat using the laquer thinner method. I have recently seen people dumping the hot bullets out of the oven back into water i just wondered what you all thought of that. I will definitely post my results! Thank you all so much on your persistence getting this to work! Did anyone work out a good alloy for around 3000fps for hunting? Cheers!

A test like this would have to be repeated many times to get a real set of data points to say one is more or less reliable than another. Then to do a good job it would have to be repeated with several guns. Lots of work to prove something to the point of saying it has scientific value. This is entertainment nothing more...

MAC's "testing" is a lot better at generating site traffic than generating useful data. Exercises like these just aren't very relevant to what 99.99% of pistols are going to go through. And testing of any sort on just one example of a particular gun is never going to tell you much.

I had forgotten about Gary Hoey. Stumbled upon him again recently...

Their small batch is very, very good. A bit hot, but if you find it too strong you can always open it up a little with an ice cube or splash of water. Willet Family Estate Rye is amazing.