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MORE WANT!!! It's freaking minigun.

Since you said the heirlooms come later, I wouldn't break the bank on my son's first, especially knowing how 18 year old boys are. I'd go with something cheap and polymer, expecting him to clean it less often than I'd like to see something better be cleaned. I mean if he beats up an SR9 or an M&P, who cares. If I gave my son a nice revolver or 1911 as a truck gun I'd expect to see surface rust and/or scratches.

I gotta imagine any son of Greg's (a member with over 9k posts here on TGO) has probably shot a gun before. Maybe even twice, lol! Obviously, he won't be carrying for at least 3 years, so carry guns are out. He's turning 18, not 8, so I really doubt a .22 is all he can handle. This sounds like an heirloom to me. Heirlooms are rarely plastic. I'm thinking a nice, American made 1911 or a 357 or 44 mag. K or L frame or equivalent. No Taurus, Citadel, Bersa, etc. Maybe a nice Springfield Range Officer, Colt Gold Cup, (I'm not personally a Colt fan, but the name still has some prestige to many) Smith model 19, 27, or 29, maybe a Ruger GP100, or if you have thousands a sweet Python or Anaconda. Let us know what you choose!

We got one in. Man, it is sweet. Really. Excellent 9mm 1911; gorgeous, light, great trigger...

I recently paid $575 for one a bit nicer at a gun show. Of course, I turned down a healthy profit on it before I left the show. They're pricey. Check "completed auctions" on gunbroker for comparison. I spent better than 20 years looking for a nice one at a decent price. It's yours; do what you want, but I think it foolish to even consider selling it.

Maybe it's his strategy to bankrupt them $0.47 at a time.

Wouldn't this make a nice sign at our borders Welcome to Tennessee, gun manufacturing capital of America

One thing is for sure. He has probably shot about everything in your safe and is bound to have a favorite and is already more than familiar with any one in the safe. It can be his first gun plus given to him by his father and can become an heirloom all at the same time..............jmho

This topic always brings this classic to mind ... you need your audio on : )

Yep. I'm sick of bacon jokes too...but when my opportunity came up to be 'that guy'....I carpe'd de' bacon. :-)

One of the classic .38 Special revolvers. It was my first. Also mentioned was a Hi Power, they are cheap right now.

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His first handgun should be something personal that will last a lifetime and have special meaning to him. Open your safe and let him pick one of yours.

Hhmmmm.... CZ75 or M&P then. Maybe a milsurp 92?

Every aircraft has a "best glide speed" which maximizes horizontal distance traveled vs. the rate of descent. This speed varies by configuration changes (gear, flaps, slats, spoilers, etc), weight distribution and several other factors, but is always well below "max speed". The procedure is to immediately bring the aircraft to whatever best glide speed is for a particular configuration, however that is complicated for the SR71 by the minimum airspeeds required to prevent stalling at various altitudes and will necessarily change on the way down. One source I found says the "glide distance" of an SR71, traveling at Mach 3.0 at 70000 ft. would be about 77 nautical miles. By comparison, the known glide distance of the earlier U-2 from the same altitude was in excess of 225 nm. The SR71 did many things well, but it was not an efficient glider, pilot anecdotes often include the word "brick" in their description of it's gliding qualities ...

A Smith and Wesson 686 will both for the bill for usefulness and be an heirloom. I've had mine fo 25+ years and it is still my most impressive pistol. Of course if you can't find one with out that silly lock, I would pass. Lucky young man either way! Good on you!

Perfect truck gun is a Canik. Not too expensive, and works great... If it was me I'd give him a god quality stainless 4in 357. It will last forever with little care and can be used for almost any reasonable task a handgun could be asked to do.

Right. He's grown up shooting the classics. I'm not into newer firearms, so he's not had much experience with them. I just wanted to surprise him. It'll be a multipurpose gun, and will probably spend a lot of it's time under a truck seat. I'm looking for a working gun. He'll get the family heirlooms later.

Nothing wrong with Glocks, except the lack of a soul.... for a 1st, make it something nice. Honestly, a quality Ruger or S&W .357 would be a gun for a young man to own his entire life and never outgrow its usefulness. 4" stainless or blued. Simple manual of arms, lots of ammo options/availability , good for field, plinking or HD use.

Idiots actually think laws stop murderers...

So... If the guns are compliant with the existing law how are they banning them? It will be interesting to see how this plays out. If the attorney general can simply "decide" that the guns are no longer compliant then what else can the AG "decide"? We don't know all the facts, but if what I described above is true then this is a slippery slope!

We don't need a law to know the difference between something unintentional and intentional. I also don't get your stance of blaming the doctor for not leaving earlier. Yes, he could have a flat tire, etc, but those are anomalies, not premeditated obstruction. I usually am pretty well in agreement with you on a lot of things, but I just can't figure out why you would blame the person just going about their day. When (not if) one of these people get killed for being stupid, I won't lose a wink of sleep.

I don't even answer the damn phone anymore.

The IRS doesn't call people, they send certified letters.

Great start Greg The first 5 are correct. I thought the 22 hipower would be tough but not for a savage guy. There is a 243 in the line up but not in that spot. The rest are still in play. 2nd hint they all start with a 2-----

Sell one of two of your other Glocks. You won’t miss them and if you do there are plenty around. You will regret selling the gift your Grandfather gave you. Are there any numbers stamped inside the yoke?

I've always used Aeroshell grease when installing AR15 barrels and buffer tube assemblies. As far as grease for the trigger and hammer assembly I've always used the grease Geissele sends you. After looking on the web, I found that the Geissele red grease is Mobil 28 and ordered some off Amazon. Scrolling through Google for ideas is like a Chevy vs Ford argument with the addition of people who probably haven't used any of them. That being said, I am curious what you guys use. And if any of your favorites are greases that you can buy in a local store. Honestly with the two above greases pretty easily obtainable, I may not even sway my choice but you never know. What say you?

Just kidding on the RG. Some at this age don't understand the sentiment that goes with a hand me down and fail to care for it as you would like or trade it for something else they think is cool. Your son may not be one of those, but I fear my son might be. I would say a Smith revolver to promote proper grip and shooting skills, as well as being lifetime weapon he could one day pass on. A 686 no key would be awesome.

I just went through this same thing back in March and even made a thread on it like you. My son turned 18 in March and I got him a nice used Glock 17 9mm. I gave him that since he had shot mine several times and loved it. Since you don't seem to want a Glock , I suggest these two : 1. The Ruger SP101 in .357mag so he can shoot 38 and 357 . It will last him a lifetime ! and the other would be a nice used Ruger P-Series in 9mm. They are built to last and he can experience a hammer fired DA/SA pistol like we did growing up. Good luck and happy birthday to the little guy !

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If he learns how to shoot a DA revolver well, he'll be at least a passable shot with any handgun he picks up.

The tea party ans most of the second amendment crowd don't protest. They get up and go to a JOB every day.

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He's been shooting a model 29 Smith and Wesson longer than he's been in school. He's my kid. He's had a LOT of experience shooting guns. He's never shown much of an affinity for anything in particular, but has always enjoyed shooting whatever I drug out at the time.

What does HE like? Really, what will he appreciate the most? Is he an experienced shooter? Then go with something in a useful caliber. Will he appreciate an heirloom? You might look at a really nice Colt Trooper III or S&W M66. But your first gun is something you will always remember. Mine was a No. 5 Lee Enfield .303 I bought in a Canadian hardware store for $40 when I was 16. I sold it when I moved back to the US as importing it wasn't worth it. But I soon bought another when I turned legal age in the US.

I think a Ruger Blackhawk Convertible in .357/9mm would make a dandy first pistol. I also like the suggestion of a older S&W K-frame.

I agree with many other comments regarding renting different pistols. Especially if he has no experience with shooting. I bought my first handgun in November 2015 without firing one. That was a Springfield XD Mod 2 9mm and I really lucked out. Great gun but bulky to carry. I then bought a Sig P938. For me, it was a terrible pistol. My hands are not small and I couldn't get a firm grip on the gun so each range experience was very unpleasant so I sold it. If he does have experience then my favorite handgun is the Sig P320 Compact 9mm. I have fired over 1,100 rounds with no issues and is very accurate. Just check it out and Good luck with your decision.

Every one of them should be charged with disorderly conduct at a minimum. They should also be charged with this: And yet another I would charge them with: And finally, Riot:

Capbyrd's Ruger addiction makes mine look like a casual habit . I have wanted a 1911 for a few years, like OS I have my calibers fairly wrapped up so adding .45 has been a love hate proposition for me though. I'm not sure which caliber I go with, but I bet it's a Ruger either way.

To be clear, we disagree with HOW they go about protesting. They can protest until the cows come home, but do so in a way that doesn't otherwise impede a law abiding citizens right to free movement. It will be unfortunate, but predictable when someone gets killed by standing in the middle of a road. They will then blame the police for not protecting them. If they think this tactic is helping their cause, they are sorely mistaken.

My attitude towards them has nothing to do with what they're protesting for. If the Church of God Women's Auxillary was out there blocking traffic I'd say throw them in jail too. If they resisted, give 'em the hose!

Miss an hour of work, send a bill to the city for your lost wages. Since the city and police allowed it by not stopping it, they should pick up the responsibility.

Seems like the Knoxville and Knox County LEO's are scared of them and the biased news reporting. Letting them hinder law abiding citizens from going about their day. I'm sure if one of those law abiding citizens accidentally ran over one of the unlawful assembled Neanderthals that was impeding their progress, and damaging their property by beating on it. They would go directly to jail, not pass go and not collect $200. When I say "Neanderthals" it's not a white or black thing. There were both races there. I don't care what the color of your skin is, you act like a man and I'll treat you like a man. You act like a ??? then expect to be treated that way. I've worked too hard for my stuff for some assclown to be beating on it because something happened to some other assclown that wouldn't do as they were told https://www.youtube.com/embed/0SOGoiZflYc?list=PLnXpmWXYNka9OF-cuJrrF_wwnrY1EZ7dK

I'm thinking some bean bag rounds and a couple of well placed fire hoses would make these folks go back to the rock they came out from under.

We need to schedule counseling for this individual, they clearly have a problem

I've shot both a lot and owned the Ruger in several variations. I would go Ruger all day. The trigger is made to self tinker with. It is very easy to get it to < 2lbs and crisp. Using Wolf Std Vel that Ruger will really shoot. The Savage is OK, and a pretty good shooter too. Also those Ruger American Rimfire stocks are pretty good, not like the Savage plastic stocks at all. For a working rifle I would keep the Ruger stock on the gun, adjust the trigger to sub 2lbs and shock the snot out of folks who have spent serious money on chasing accuracy and reliability within certain price points. The last Ruger American .22LR I had would shoot as well as any of the several CZs I used to own. I think it would have given my late Kimber of Oregon Stainless Classic a run for its money too. I think the Ruger American .22lr is the best value in decent shooting .22s without having to break the bank. I'm thinking with a bit of tinkering it might shoot alongside the Anschutz sporters. At least as good that squirrels wouldn't know what killed them...Ruger American or Anschutz. P.S. The quality and variety of Ruger magazines can't be beat.

I grew up shooting 1911's, Beretta 92's and Glocks, and I still enjoy shooting them, but I drank the CZ kool aid a few years back and carry a P07 most of the time. Now I have several CZ models on my short list to purchase-- CZ75 compact and a Rami are at the top of the list. Just about any CZ I shoot seems to be just an extension of my hand and I shoot them more accurate than any of my other handguns.