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I am rather speechless.. I came home and he had a carport build for my car  With the help of a few  TGO`ers    I know who was up here and did this..I cant say thank you enough.. This is from the bottom of my heart..THANK YOU.!!. i cant  say thank you enough and he said  you guys would not take any money.But he did say that you would enjoy a good German home cooked meal.I  will do that..Lets get together up here and I will make Schnitzel and all the fixin`s. .. I think the last get together we roasted a whole pig, but that was like 6 years ago..So we are overdue..WAY OVERDUE...     I want to thank you all.. I love you  guys..Now Betty ( yes, her name is Betty  :D , has a place to sleep..:)    Will let ya all know the time when :)      Petra               

  My viewpoint is that it is her house and property and she had every right - legal and otherwise - to be there.  Claiming that she is somehow 'culpable' because she had the audacity to go into her own property is ludicrous, to me.  The person who was illegally there is the one who is culpable and, thankfully, the one who got dead.   Should she have waited for the police to arrive and make sure all was clear?  Would that have been the smarter thing to do?  Maybe.  Should she be considered somehow 'culpable' for entering her own property?  Absolutely not.  To my mind that is one of the major problems in this country - we no longer seem to recognize that the person who is committing the crime and illegally entering another person's residence, in this case Trevon, is 100% responsible for the outcome when they get killed as a result of their crime.

I deprime after tumbling, why do a extra step not needed with dry media.

I don't reload to save money.  I reload to get more accurate ammo.  Unless you are shooting thousands of rounds a year, there is not really a payback.

The cost savings for me is the ability to store the components easier and cheaper than storing/hoarding finished product. Also, when I store the components, I am potentially storing multiple calibers, vs if I had to buy and store separate finished ammo.

I forgot to show y'all my new decoy hat. "So he cocked both his pistols, spit in the dirt, and walked out in to the street."

Top left- Wyatt Earp Top right- Virgil Earp Lower left - Morgan Earp Lower right- John Doc Holliday

I never think of the cost of reloading equipment as part of the cost of each round. To me its more of a long term investment. I load for 7-8 calibers now and that list will only grow with time. I have about as much in reloading equip as 2 or 3 quality guns. When I got in I tried to do it on the cheap with low cost equipment. Some I still have and like, some was so frustrating that I moved on to better gear.   For a single stage press the best investment I ever made was a Forester Co-Ax. It simply can't be beat unless you are loading 50cal. A good progressive for the pistol stuff, and I'm set. I can load 223 on the Co-Ax now, but may upgrade the progressive to it and never look back.   The equipment makes shooting generally cost less, and when its raining and I don;t want to shoot I reload for the next time. It's not all about cost per round. I get satisfaction out of the process as well.   When ammo is cheap I buy it and save the brass to reload. Sometimes I sell/trade the brass for stuff I need.   This model doesn't work for everyone, but I'm quite happy with it!

Money isn't an issue in reloading for me. I can load higher quality ammo than I can buy, and can also tailor a load to a specific gun. I can also shoot obscure calibers I wouldn't be able to shoot if I didn't reload.

I decided to get very serious about reloading on January 20, 2009. Prior to that I just fiddlefarted around with it.

TGO very well may be the greatest place on earth. Congratulations on the new carport.

How about marriage? That's my savings lol, if I'm in the basement reloading then I'm out of her hair and giving her a break from me, so it makes her want to kill me less.

Like Prag, I may not have been there when "Todd was born" but I was there soon after and saw him"take his first steps". In fact Todd is probably a pretty close approximation of Sebastian (Belisarius)  if you know anything about his background. And the concept has driven a lot of my own personal training.     The "Todd" concept is in large part a cautionary tale that no matter how bad you are (or think you are ...look up "Kruger-Dunning Effect") there is always someone out there that has scraped parts of badder people than you off his shoe.     And Todd is not a LIKELY opponent for most people (but then again no one would have guessed Ohio State running back Maurice Clarett would be jacking people in an alley at gunpoint  just a few years after scoring the winning touchdown in the National Championship game in 2003.....). But there are a lot of HARD dudes working for cartels just south of the border and they DO conduct business in the US. Think about some of the guys that make up the Zetas (former Mexican Special Forces trained at the School of the Americas by US Special Forces and now they run their own cartel).....they are NOT the typical crackhead out to score another rock.    The point is that assuming the guy who tries to victimize you will crumple and fold when you offer a little resistance is frankly dangerous. I expect them to be better trained, better armed, better skilled, stronger and faster than me....and I train for THAT....not for the lowest common denominator. So when I get the LCD criminal it is a cakewalk....and if I get "Todd" I'm not expecting "easy" and I'm at least as well prepared as my lifestyle will allow. 

OK Guys   everyone is paid off and knives are being built and I should be getting these bad boys out to you all by the end of April, they will be worth the wait I assure you

Comic book post - not a spoiler since the episode has aired. In the comic Eugene found an actual Reloading setup. I forget now if it was a gun store setup or one of those small ammo manufacturer shops, but they were able to sit down and start cranking out ammo almost immediately and came in very useful.

NO disrespect Caster but quit thinking logically.  This is a TV show about post apocalyptic life complete with zombies.  We are gun people here that are more firearm savvy than maybe the average viewer just accepts as plausible because of their ignorance to all things firearm related.  I do agree a complete machine shop is not necessary  because like you say there should be a fair amount of ammo still stashed in peoples homes and in retail stores.  I'm sure the store supplies would disappear quicker but surely there are some that remain untouched or maybe I'm way off on that one.  Using the same thought process there should be sporting good and gun shops that have reloading equipment for the taking.  My first thought when Eugene explained his vision of producing ammunition was what about powder and primers.  The same place they would scavenge these items there should be reloading equipment as well.   As for the Doctor Denise, all I have to say about that is, she never saw it coming! :biglol:

I just watched it. The doc was just starting to become a stronger player. Did she have a connection to the baby? I know Dennis was her twin brother, but what about the baby... younger sibling or unspecified? Daryl got his bike back and now the crossbow! I think we'll see some war next episode. I wonder if Carol will come back again to save the day Did Eugene go nuts or what? :rofl:

OK, time to mix the non gun thread up a little to The Old West. Below we have a pair of cattle rustling shoes

If you had to choose between Constitutional carry with the present restrictions that we have VS unrestricted permit carry (basically legal in any location you carry whether it is a store or school), which would you choose?   I personally would choose to pay for the handgun carry permit and carry anywhere legally without restrictions VS the constitutional carry with the various gun free area restrictions.

Both are 5/32" thick 1095 carbon steel that have been double etched and have mosaic pins. This one has a matched set on mesquite scales and thumb jimping on the spine. This one has a nice set of mahogany scales and some filework on the spine..

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/03/21/supreme-court-stun-gun-second-amendment/76313848/     WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Monday unanimously reversed a Massachusetts court that had upheld banning stun guns, giving proponents of gun rights at least a temporary victory. The justices ruled that the state court's reasons for upholding the law conflicted with the Supreme Court's 2008 decision upholding the right to bear arms for self-defense -- a ruling written by the late Justice Antonin Scalia in 2008. The challenge, filed by a woman who was arrested for carrying the weapon in her purse for protection, now gets new life. But rather than hearing the case themselves and potentially striking down the ban, the justices sent it back to the state's Supreme Judicial Court. They reasoned that their own landmark decisions in District of Columbia v. Heller and McDonald v. Chicago were meant to protect even firearms "that were not in existence at the time of the founding." However, they stopped short of a blanket endorsement of stun guns. That did not satisfy Justices Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas, who complained in a 10-page concurrence that the court's "grudging" decision to send the case back may not be enough to save Jaime Caetano and citizens like her "who must defend themselves because the state will not." "If the fundamental right of self-defense does not protect Caetano, then the safety of all Americans is left to the mercy of state authorities who may be more concerned about disarming the people than about keeping them safe," Alito wrote.   The high court ruled in Heller that Americans can keep handguns in their homes for self-defense, and it made clear in McDonald that state and local governments cannot stop them. But the court limited its initial ruling to weapons that were commonly used at the time the Constitution was written. The Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court ruled unanimously in March that stun guns didn't fit that definition. It noted the first patent for a stun gun was filed in 1972, and the weapons were not sold commercially until the early 1990s. "We therefore conclude that stun guns were not in common use at the time of the Second Amendment's enactment," Justice Francis Spina wrote. "Without further guidance from the Supreme Court on the scope of the Second Amendment, we do not extend the Second Amendment right articulated by Heller to cover stun guns." The case dates back to 2011, when Caetano was arrested in a supermarket parking lot. She said she carried the stun gun for protection against an abusive former boyfriend who she previously had sought to avoid through restraining orders. In seeking the high court's intervention, Caetano's lawyers argued that stun guns and Tasers are not lethal, unlike the types of firearms already permitted under prior Supreme Court rulings. They noted that Scalia's 5-4 ruling in Heller specified it could be applied to modern weapons. "Some have made the argument, bordering on the frivolous, that only those arms in existence in the 18th century are protected by the Second Amendment. We do not interpret constitutional rights that way," Scalia wrote. "The Second Amendment extends ... to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding." Caetano's petition also contended that just seven states ban stun guns, while hundreds of thousands have been sold to private citizens across the United States. A Michigan court, it noted, ruled in favor of possession in a 2012 case. Although Caetano was carrying the weapon in a parking lot, she was homeless at the time. For that reason, the case was unlikely to resolve the next major question on gun rights -- whether those permitted in the home can be carried in public.

Wish I could find a faux silencer for this.....

If there is a product you wish to look at they will let you.  I have done that with a rifle case, a powder trickler and a couple of AR parts.  Their catalog is available in print for free too, and their site lets you save a wish list; all in all a good place to buy.

Are you sitting in a bean bag chair in your under wear eating cheetos

I like it.

Yep, I have all of their stuff and remain a huge fan. I actually only got into them right before Disarm the Descent, so I kinda' came in in the middle of the changeup back to Jesse. I like all of it, except ther very first album which was pretty rough. I seem to find bands later in their careers, skipping a lot of the "you changed, I hate you now" stuff. The first Metallica album I bought was Reload. Got into that, then went backwards and I love all of their stuff, short hair or long. :-)

Killswitch Engage all day for me today. Going to see them at Marathon Music Works tonight. Stoked! One of my favorites: https://youtu.be/M_Ks75nQwlM

Yes because we can trust the NRA rating system... remember at one point in time Harry Reid had an A- rating from them.   There is a simple question that he needs to be ask:   "In light of the Heller ruling do you think the 1994 AWB was unconstitutional"   and this follow up:   "Why did you think it was constitutional at the time?"   -----------------   The thing you have to remember is Kasich was the tie breaking vote that allowed this legislation to pass...   If he had voted against the bill it would have failed...  not only was he the tie breaker, he helped whip nearly 25 other republicans into voting for the bill...  He used his position in Republican leadership to force that bill through.   This isn't about one bad vote, he is the sole reason the AWB violated our constitutional right for 10 years.    

A full cartridge is the coin of the land. I am going to carve that into my reloading bench.

I try not to buy anything from Mahoney's. I turn invisible when I walk in there because I am not a buddy of any of the sales personnel.

To complement the above post;   https://youtu.be/efFo-Clq844

More pics from The Lincoln County War, where Billy the Kid was involved. Below, Jose Chavez y Chavez, A minor outlaw in New Mexico, he joined the Regulators and later became a member of Billy the Kid's gang. Below is: John Henry Tunstall, 1853-1878. Employer of Billy the Kid and a number of young men who became known as "The Regulators. Of course, this couldn't be complete with a pic of Pat Garrett - we've all heard of 'Pat Garrett and Billy The Kid"

Gorgeous knife and sheath. GT does beautiful work. I love mine.

Of course we need some Billy the Kid action. Here are a few more: Billy the Kid was the best known of The Regulators in The Lincoln County War. Here is another player, a sheriff. In 1878, Sheriff William Brady was ambushed by the Regulators as he and his deputies walked down the street in Lincoln. Brady, who was allied with Murphy/Dolan, had sent the posse after Tunstall's livestock which resulted in Tunstall's murder and the beginning of the Lincoln County War.

Murphy showed up at Mass one Sunday and the priest almost fell down when he saw him. He'd never been to church in his life. After Mass, the priest caught up with him and said, "Murphy, I am so glad ya decided to come to Mass. What made ya come?"  Murphy said, "I got to be honest with you Father, a while back, I misplaced me hat and I really, really love that hat. I know that McGlynn had a hat just like mine and I knew he came to church every Sunday. I also knew that he had to take off his hat during Mass and figured he would leave it in the back of church. So, I was going to leave after Communion and steal McGlynn's hat."  The priest said, "Well, Murphy, I notice that ya didn't steal McGlynn's hat. What changed your mind?"  Murphy replied, "Well, after I heard your sermon on the Ten Commandments, I decided that I didn't need to steal McGlynn's hat after all."  With a tear in his eye the priest gave Murphy a big smile and said; "After I talked about 'Thou Shalt Not Steal' ya decided you would rather do without your hat than burn in Hell?"  Murphy slowly shook his head. "No, Father, after ya talked about 'Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery' I remembered where I left me hat."

BS; first, Todd having the mental toughness and mental discipline to do all that is probably somebody on your side. Todd, wants to go home at the end of the day, Todd does not want your measly $20 you may have in your wallet, and Todd, having undergone all that training is probably doing all this overseas to the same people that we all want to have it done to. No, Todd is not the guy you need to worry about; it's Fred Crackhead, and Mohammed Martyr which pose the greatest risk. Fred, wakes around 1pm after a night shooting up heroin or smoking crack. He needs another fix, he has honed his skill by shoplifting, breaking into cars and houses. He doesn't really care if anyone is there or not, his only goal is the next fix. He started off carrying a piece of pipe someone threw out, upgraded to a knife in one of the home burglaries then scored a nice 1911 when he broke into a truck looking for loose change, he was almost caught though, but he managed to give the owner the slip. Fred has now decided that loose change just isn't cutting it, he decides to go for the big score so he picks a nice store to rob, and look there is a sign out front letting him know that nobody inside will confront him. So he begins his robbery when what do you know, the trucks owner just walked in... Mohammed, wakes at 4am tired and restless from the long flight the night before. He has just completed a 6 month course in Somalia where they taught him hand to hand combat, how to shoot rifles handguns and RPGs. John, I mean Mohammed, mustn't make that mistake again; it could mean his head...Mohammed has come back home to the US. He was born in Michigan, dated a high school cheerleader, worked his dad's farm, but became dissolutioned after graduation, thought Obama was going to fix things, after all he is one of them. But listening to his heroes Cleric Anwar al-Awlaki and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright he has come to the realization that only he can strike a blow for Allah. So he straps on a his vest made just like his explosives instructor taught him using dynamite his dad was planning on using for those stumps in the new pasture and loads his equipment into the old ford. His chosen targets, the local water supply, his friend Thomas, err I mean Maliki, brought over some powder to dump into the pumping station, it's right by the stadium where the big homecoming game is scheduled to be played. He knows security will be light, after all nothing can happen here, but he has had a friend supply him with a new AK-47 just in case...

I'm thinking Carol is slipping into a dangerous place mentally, even though she was active in killing several more people. She would never have hesitated to shoot the red head before, but was having a problem in this episode. At the end of the last scene, she was squeezing the cross she had sharpened to escape and blood dripped out of her hand. This was a response to Rick shooting the bad guy in the head. She would never have done that before. Something is changing in her mind and its not a good thing. I see Maggie becoming a ferocious wolf den mother when in danger because of her baby. 

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At distance from which you can see blue lights, you have time to adjust your speed up or down enough to get over. If the cop had enough time to see them coming and get out his mace before exiting the car then then the guys on the motorcycles were being a bunch of asshats too. Just my opinion.

Well, when you are raised by government and basically taught there is no accountability for any action, everything is given to people and the culture around you is based on nothing but crime and corruption with no consequences in most ghetto homes, there you go. An entire subculture of takers is born and they can't differentiate between taking handouts or stealing from someone with more than them, or even less. 

I hate the new Wideners. No surplus ammo. No c&r guns. What I would've given to have known they were gonna sell out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thanks fellas!  I am super excited.  He's going to be a boy!  Hopefully he will be a good hunting buddy down the road.  Time will tell I guess.       I've told my wife she needs to start walking backwards everywhere to help delay the birth till after turkey season....she wasn't as amused as I was!  LOL 

I compromise with my .357 Sig.

I plink with my 9mm when I want more than a .22. I carry my .40S&W.

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Thanks for all your work. I currently have a 10 yr old rescue, pit mix. Best dog I have ever owned. Donation made !!