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So, recently I did a little thinking about what TGO means to me. I've been here for a number of years, enjoying the awesome service David and the moderators provide. I really enjoy being a part of a community of like-minded folks. The knowledge I've learned, the stories I've heard, the laughs I've had, and even the tears I've cried are a big part of my everyday life. Heck, I get up an hour early every morning before work, just to have time to get caught up on TGO.    All of that led me to decide to go ahead and make a contribution to become a benefactor. I've gotten way more knowledge and entertainment than the cost of the membership.  I've never felt any pressure to donate here, and the service has always been free, but TGO deserves my membership money.   David and staff, thanks for this site and all you do.

Well I finished it up tonight. That SLR handguard is NICE. It's super light and easy to install. You don't have to line up anything for the gas tube so just torque to spec and slap it on there....simple. You don't need any special tools either. The only thing that was disappointing is that it does not come with rail sections like most other handguards. I'll have to buy some for my bipod because I don't have any for keymod. I checked headspace and all is well. Installed and timed the brake It weighs just over 8lbs sans optic and suppressor. Didn't weight it with optic because I'll be changing it. I just threw a 3-9x nikon on it for the time being. The only thing left to do is install a dust cover and bipod. I may get a range report tomorrow if the rain holds off. I have a selection of plinker 147 and 150 loads as well as some match 168 and handload 178's. Here she is: [url=http://s107.photobucket.com/user/samson7x/media/DSC_0604_zpsmeasdyjy.jpg.html][/URL]

My bipod and mount came in and I bought a decent case for it. With he PEPR mount and bipod my groups are getting much better. I've got a set of JP trigger springs coming in as well. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I wish people would stop talking about these rifles. Just about the time I finally put it out of my mind, someone brings them up again. :D

I just picked up my Pistol Thursday evening when I got home, I installed Talon grips, a pierce plug and TGO David was kind enough to instal my TruGlo TFO sights, I just shot it for the first time. 5 Magazines of Hornady Critical Duty and I absolutely love this little Glock! very accurate and a great trigger for such a compact pistol, I am very happy with my purchase

From what I gather: -There are a lot of 6.5 Creedmore RPR owners out there who are super-happy with their purchase. -There are a lot of .243 RPR owners who are not as happy. -There are not a lot of .308 RPR owners... and the ones that are out there, aren't saying much. :) Rifle Details: Ruger Precision Rifle - .308 (20" barrel - no brake or supressor... yet), Caldwell Bipod, Leupold 2.5-10x40 mildot scope in leupold rings. As configured, this rifle weighs 11.85lbs w/o a magazine. The rifle was purchased locally - I didn't want to pay MAP - not happy that the un-named shop had it listed at MAP ....but I paid up... because it was the first (and still is the only) RPR .308 I had seen in person. Rifle History: As of tonight, I have 79 rounds through this rifle. In my first outing with it, I shot 19 rounds of barrel break-in. -cleaning every round for 10 rounds, then a group of 5, then a group of 4... and then it was dark and the range was closing. ... what a pain at a public range!! ha! Conditions During the Review: sunny, beautiful, 70deg... with a stiff 10-17mph variable wind blowing across the line of fire from 80-90deg. I put 60 rounds downrange. ~35 of them were 147gr ball (perfecta)... even so, ringing the gong at 400yds (using a ~2.5 mildot hold-over) - even in the wind was boringly easy (don't know how big the gong was - maybe 24"?) ** All shots today were from prone with bipod and rear bag. After all of the ball ammo was gone, it was time to confirm zero at 200yds and shoot for groups at 200yds. The first photo is the 3 shots to confirm zero. Zero-Verification: Black Hills (semi-vintage) 168gr Match - 200yds, 3 shot group ** according to my ballistics app, this was a .698" center to center and a .33moa group. I was a little stunned. My point of aim was the end of the "6" - just where the 4" line meets the black ink. After dialing up 2 clicks (~1" at 200yds), a started shooting for groups to see which ammo the gun likes. ___________________________________________________________________ Groups 1) Federal Gold Medal Match SMK 168gr - 200yds, 4 shot group (that's all I had left) **Largest Center-Center spread was 1.866" - .89moa group ___________________________________________________________________ 2) Black Hills 168gr Match -200yds, 5 shot group (it was "new old stock"... rounds were in styrofoam - not plastic, if that helps date it for you.) * That outlier was really my own fault, but it's included. (Man! I wanted to exclude that flyer ... or magically make it go away.) If it was me, I'll settle out of it in time, and future groups won't show it. If it is the rifle or the ammo, it will happen consistently. ** Center-to-Center Spread: 2.508" - 1.2moa group (darn it) Without the flyer it is a .63moa 4-shot group. ***of note! look at the (lack of) vertical spread!! - ya think Black Hills was consistent on this batch? :) ___________________________________________________________________ 3) Federal Gold Medal Match 175 SMK - 200yds, 5 shot group *Center-to-Center Spread: 2.034" - .97moa group ___________________________________________________________________ Conclusions: 1) Rifle: This gun will shoot. I am guessing it will settle in as a .6-.75moa shooter. I absolutely have to put a muzzle break on it. By the time I started shooting these groups, I had shot about 50 rounds already in short order, and I was feeling it a bit. 2) Ammo: I will stick with Black Hills 168 for now and see if the flyer was me or the ammo. The lack of vertical stringing... and the earlier 3 shot group hint that the BH load may be the factory load for this gun. With both weights of FGMM shooting sub moa, I have options. Also, note that with the FGMM -both variants were coming out at a consistent, but markedly different velocity than the BH ammo. - as noted by the ~1.5" higher POI of both FGMM groups. 3) Glass: I am shooting this at 10x. I feel pretty confident that, with a 16 or 20x scope, I could tighten up the groups, maybe someday I'll find out. - I don't know that I can justify big money on glass... ever, but I've been toying around with the idea of a Vortex PST 6-24 (for the EBR2C reticle) or the Burris XTRii 5-20. If I could get the EBR2C reticle in a 16x, it would be a no brainer. -not sure how much real world use I would ever get out of a 24x scope. 4) Conditions: -pretty stoked to shoot for groups at 200yds and not 100yds.... and have these results ... and to get these groups on a day as windy as today, it just makes me smile. If anyone was thinking about a Ruger Precision Rifle... hope this helps. ... aaaand if you are going to be punching paper with it, get the 6.5Creedmore.

Here's the dog I'm getting Wednesday. Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

This is headed for a new home in Nashville. This is 1/8" 1095 carbon steel professionally heat treated to RC 60. It has beautiful slender Bocote scales with SS pin and lanyard hole. OAL is 10 3/4 with a blade length of 5 1/2". It ha thumb jimping and some nice file work on the spine. As you can see it is double acid etched. It comes with the brown kydex sheath and belt loop.

It wasn't an accident. Someone screwed up royally. 100% avoidable with proper muzzle discipline.

He looks ready for action! :up:

Just got this. Obviously they spared no expense on labeling. :biglol: But don't let the looks fool you... I'm having it on the rocks right now and it's really smooth. Glad I took a $50(!) gamble. :up:

Doesn't bug me that he sells his wares at all. If he does a good job stopping crime, good for him. Heck, if anyone cared enough to listen to what I say I'd probably sells hats too.

  Good commentary, kidd. This I think is pretty much the same reasoning for most of us.   I found the site when a past, now banned(He who must not be named) friend of mine told me of it. I was doing chemotherapy at the time and it gave me something to do each day.   I would read all the threads while hooked up to the IV drips, and it helped take my mind off the waiting.   I found I was pretty much in synch with the people here, so after sharing in the goodness for quite some time, I did become a Benefactor Member.   Gotta admit it did have a lot to do with wanting to have a semi-trustworthy(lol) audience to buy, trade and sell with; but it was also payback for all the time and help I had received from the people here.   I've met quite a few of our members, made friends, several really god ones, and had a wonderful time doing it all.   So the benefits are many, the drawbacks almost non-existant, and TGO David gets a little payback for all the work...and frustration I'm sure; that he has put into this.   Yeah...it's more than worth the cost. I urge all you who can to do so.   (Ok, bossman...when do I get paid for this glowing endorsement? lol)

  That's good news and congratulations on your recent family addition, you've done yourself proud. 

We are, Kevin and Kali With the world being what it is today, we just (Dec) purchased our first hand guns and received our carry permits.   We live in Knox County and are thinking of setting up a hand gun range on our property.   One of our jobs takes us to diverse areas of Tn, Ky, Ga, Va, and Al. So having a little something to go is a great relief.   We also own rental homes  and our interests vary from our Harley (Road Glide) PS4 (not so much since we got our guns) doing our own rehabs on houses, Kali loves to garden and reclaim furniture and decorations for the yard.   For our home we have the Glock 17 4th gen, I carry the 43 and my wife has the 42 (380) Also from one of our renters we got a Marlin 22L rifle, it seems he thought someone was upstairs and having not used it for 3 years he fumbled and shot a hole in the French door window. No one was hurt no animals just a $68.00 window. When we went out to secure the window he asked me to take the rifle as he said he clearly shouldn’t have a weapon LOL.   Were mid 50’s and have been in Knoxville since 2000. Thanks for having a great site.

I'm not sure.... but I think he want's to find them boys.... pretty bad.     https://youtu.be/m1lc7i7BaG8

Acid etched x4, this bad boy came out nice and dark. 01 steel etches really nice. I'm thinking some yellow/black striated G-10will look cool! Like a really sharp "bumble bee"! For your viewing pleasure!

The other day a friend of mine shared a comment that is one of the more profound observations I've heard in a long time.   He said, "You know, there really aren't very many problems that can't be solved with the right amount of well placed high explosives."   So simple, yet so very, very true.    

Someone just now posted in the comments that it was a bad headline. Woman was hit by a ricochet.

    Steve,   Several of us on TGO are GGC members.  I'm sure we'll be more than happy to have you as our guest anytime that you want to go shooting.   Also, you can come out and shoot in any of our scheduled matches that take place on the weekends.  The matches are open to any competitor, you don't have to be a GGC member.    http://www.gallatingun.com/   Again..., Welcome to The Patron State of Shootin' Stuff.

hope the injured party is ok and recovers 100% soon! I was a member and quit going there when I lived in Knoxville because of the lack of muzzle discipline among shooters --- and the staff's non-desire to do anything about it.

Got a name?

There are many occasions in which I've thought to myself.... "one well placed grenade...."

I don't believe undercharged cases can explode. What can happen is a bullet can become lodged in the barrel (squib) and subsequent rounds if fired can burst the barrel. That being said, I doubt you are in that much danger with the load stated. It's not that much below recommended starting load. 

Wear some comfortable shoes, the place is huge.

If he can get some of these thugs off the street I'll buy one of his hats. :cheers:

Try http://gatewaybullets.com!

'cause 100yds is for sissies?? ha! kidding. -100yd was at a different part of the range and sometimes you can't shoot prone there. - that and the fact that any deficiencies in me, the ammo, and rifle are magnified as you get further out. I guess that is why.

I'm not making excuses for them,but they get no reward or recognition for working any harder and they have to be in some kind of well-connected click to ever get promoted.. That will only motivate someone to do as little as possible to keep from getting fired. Some jobs are geared toward attracting people with very little motivation and desire.

Some times every now and then you just need a good reason to dick around all day, especially on a Friday. I know it's our tax dollars but who of us hasn't taken advantage to milk a day or two here and there?

Thanks for the comments. The mirror what I've found with other, similar compact 9s. But haven't shot a 43, only held one.    On just the feel of the Shield vs the 43, my personal choice is the Shield. But that's just me. If I get around to actually shooting one...it might change.   Heck...I used to not like the 1911. :dropjaw:

Yep, just trapdoors...

Im about 85% crude and unruly The other 15% im logged off Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

Why wait when we can make one!...well, sorta Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

I can accomodate this desire Pete...the ATF Orange Books says its cool Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

He's a waste of tax payers dollars in several ways. Jailing him for a few more years isn't the answer. I'm with Sandstone.

Buy in April, sell in November :)

Donation done out of respect for the two of you.  

Whoever pushed that M1 Carbine up to nearly $800 is going to be sorely disappointed.

Leatherman Skeletool here.  It's just enough.  If I need anything more, I should have my kit with me and be using actual tools.  The screwdriver is actually useful - and probably have used that feature 10x more than the others.   -that said, it has opened a lot... of boxes.

Welcome aboard. :up:

Welcome Stimpee! This thread really needs a Beretta pic..... My Elite that Ernest Landgon gunsmith for me back in 2001. I'm thinking a Real Smart Guy - - - say somebody like a Director of Product Development and Engineering - - - could figure out a method to get Ernie away from Bill Wilson and back with the world's longest running privately held firearms manufacturing company who is locating their USA production to Tennessee. :x:

  Whether I can make it or not, thank you for doing this.  Very generous (your time, effort, and knowledge).

  Heh, I would be happy to get 1000 M9A3's ON a truck right now!!   Moving a big and complex operation tends to make things a bit difficult!   :hyper:

Welcome to the family. If like 1000 M9A3s fall off a truck let me know Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

A week without a bump? :confused:   bump 

Maybe you weren't picking it up right....or worse.  Next time ask him if he likes what he sees.

It's your brass, you own it. Common courtesy police your area after shooting. My opion and I'm sticking to it.