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*Gasp!* How dare you!!! How dare you bust your butt and work hard to accomplish your goals. How dare you make something out of yourself without milking the system! You're making a bad example for the others who need to 'feel good' about taking handouts and dragging out the repayment of said handouts. ***Spit*** High five buddy.

Once upon a time there was a king who wanted to go fishing. > > He called the royal weather forecaster and inquired as to the weather forecast for the next few hours. The weatherman assured him that there was no chance of rain in the coming days. > > So the king went fishing with his wife, the queen.  On the way he met a farmer on his donkey. Upon seeing the king the farmer said, "Your Majesty, you should return to the palace at once because in just a short time I expect a huge amount of rain to fall in this area". > > The king was polite and considerate, he replied: "I hold the palace meteorologist in high regard. He is an extensively educated and experienced professional.  And besides, I pay him very high wages. He gave me a very different forecast. I trust him and I will continue on my way."  So he continued on his way. > > However, a short time later a torrential rain fell from the sky.  The King and Queen were totally soaked and their entourage chuckled upon seeing them in such a shameful condition. > > Furious, the king returned to the palace and gave the order to fire the professional. Then he summoned the farmer and offered him the prestigious and high paying role of royal forecaster. > > The farmer said, "Your Majesty, I do not know anything about forecasting.  I obtain my information from my donkey. If I see my donkey's ears drooping, it means with certainty that it will rain." > > So the king hired the donkey. > > And thus began the practice of hiring dumb asses to work in the government and occupy its highest and most influential positions. > > And the practice is unbroken to this date..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z31F895EjGQ

Oh really? How old are you? I'm 25 and have been working at my current job since 2007. I have been here as a full-time employee since 2012. I have my associates and am only 45 credit hours away from a bachelors. I have $0.00 worth of student debt. My parents didn't help me at all, I didn't get grants but did receive some scholarship money. The rest? I worked it. I say all that to add that I too am disappointed in how it is "the smart thing to do" to rack up $50,000 to $500,000 in debt for a bachelor's degree. I wish the whole education system could be amended. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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  Think they're all holding out for a Presidential Pardon?  Bernie has already "promised" to make public colleges and universities tuition free.  Maybe they're hoping it he'll include retroactive debt forgiveness in the new socialist USA.  They see that our politicians already eagerly handing $$$$$ to illegals and want to "forgive" them for breaking our laws; why not personal debts?  Way too many of that generation have never been made to accept responsibility for anything.    There is a reason the "millennial generation" is lining up behind Sanders; it's all about his promises of "FREE whatever..."  But don't ask them to define "socialism" or tell you how it "works".    Can't believe us old geezers still think that asking for and accepting some else's money creates a legal and moral obligation to repay them.  I'm just old fashioned I guess.

The IRS decides to audit Grandpa, and summons him to the IRS office. The IRS auditor was not surprised when Grandpa showed up with his attorney. The auditor said, ‘Well, sir, you have an extravagant lifestyle and no full-time employment, which you explain by saying that you win money gambling. I’m not sure the IRS finds that believable.’ ‘I’m a great gambler, and I can prove it,’ says Grandpa. ‘How about a demonstration?’ The auditor thinks for a moment and says, ‘Okay. Go ahead. ‘ Grandpa says, ‘I’ll bet you a thousand dollars that I can bite my own eye.’ The auditor thinks a moment and says, ‘It’s a bet.’ Grandpa removes his glass eye and bites it. The auditor’s jaw drops. Grandpa says, ‘Now, I’ll bet you two thousand dollars that I can bite my other eye.’ The auditor can tell Grandpa isn’t blind, so he takes the bet. Grandpa removes his dentures and bites his good eye. The stunned auditor now realizes he has wagered and lost three grand, with Grandpa’s attorney as a witness. He starts to get nervous. ‘Want to go double or nothing?’ Grandpa asks ‘I’ll bet you six thousand dollars that I can stand on one side of your desk, and pee into that wastebasket on the other side, and never get a drop anywhere in between.’ The auditor, twice burned, is cautious now, but he looks carefully and decides there’s no way this old guy could possibly manage that stunt, so he agrees again. Grandpa stands beside the desk and unzips his pants, but although he strains mightily, he can’t make the stream reach the wastebasket on the other side, so he pretty much urinates all over the auditor’s desk. The auditor leaps with joy, realizing that he has just turned a major loss into a huge win. But Grandpa’s own attorney moans and puts his head in his hands. ‘Are you okay?’ the auditor asks. ‘Not really,’ says the attorney. ‘This morning, when Grandpa told me he’d been summoned for an audit, he bet me twenty-five thousand dollars that he could come in here and pee all over your desk and that you’d be happy about it.’

  Are you saying that the owners of your local gun shops don't work hard for their money?  Does the $20-40 you might save by buying online make as much of a difference in your life as it might in the difference of a small business owner's success or failure?   Just things to think about.

When you borrow money you have a legal and moral obligation to repay it. Money lent by the government should not be any less important that money spent for rent or your car. Of course you have the ability to declare bankruptcy and live with your decision for years with your less than spectacular credit rating. Should you be arrested for not paying your student loans? Probably not a good idea.   As far as financial hardship is concerned a lot of people have it for various reasons but does not give anyone an excuse to not pay your debts. It takes time, effort and responsibility to restructure you debts with creditors or yes...even go bankrupt. It does not however give you the right to just flush your debts. When folks don't live up to their obligations there should be a bit of discomfort and hardship involved with it.   A side note....both my wife and I have bachelor's degrees and have never owed a dime. We got ours through 26 years of service in the military...studying a little at a time over time. The thing about it is if you don't pass a class you have to pay the VA back for that class. What a revolutionary idea. I'm not saying the military is for everyone but none the less.....there is a way to get a degree without going totally in debt.

Bonus points for use of the word "Felcher"!   hahaha   :rofl:

so im at the dr office,and a lady sitting a seat away is sniffling and drooling like she has facial syphillis. i hit the link w paiges 30 some odd girlie gun photos. got halfway through and ms drooley sniffles got up gave me a scowl and left saving me 10 minutes!!! good karma!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk, its either this or smoke signals!

It's not that cut and dry in my opinion. These companies are financially ruining young people that want to pursue a quality higher education. It's pure greed in exchange for a dream. It's a different climate. It isn't "back in the day" when you could pay for schooling with a spare job. I regret going to college because of the debt. It is really s*itty to say that, and everyone in my generation that isn't blessed with wealthy parents feel the same.

It's stupid to me to lock someone up and jail them and have to pay for their 3 squares and burden the system more. This is where people like Mike Rowe are really correct in saying skill trades should be something that's heavily considered before enrolling in college. I have a cousin who's a perfect example of it. 3 semesters at UT where she partied and slept more than she went to class. She's still $40,000 in the hole and has no way to pay it back in the manner expected. I agree with Ski. Privatization of loans would make it harder to obtain and therefore we'd have people pursuing trades they can still make a good living at versus 4 years for a degree where they're still living in the basement at 30.

  Though I admittedly basically drifted through college with no clear intent of what the hell I was there for, I paid for it all, including plenty of partying. Bout only help from the folks was just throwing some "here treat yourself" bucks my way from time to time, birthday money and such.   How? 6 summers of digging ditches for the utility board, killing trees on a land crew, and sweating in a paper mill during both grade and high school, a couple of small scholarships, another summer in the paper mill after freshman year. Knocked the grades outta the park freshman year, and then cruised on that the other three years, worked 20-30 hours a week in private clubs (was a bartender before I was old enough to legally drink, and this was before liquor by the drink was legalized, so admittedly there was lots of money to make doing that then), did research for a couple of profs, whatnot.   Even included dropping out a year and hitting the hippie dippie Summer of Love trail (one summer late). :)   Anyway, lots of ways to approach the situation, and it's certainly not a given that you just must simply borrow enough money to go straight though to the exclusion of the rest of life. Ain't knocking the folks who do it that way, but purt obvious that you'd better have a reasonable plan and expectations of ROI upon graduation, and you two exemplify how you do both methods.   But it's also purt obvious that at least half the folks who go way in debt for college have some bad combo of unrealistic expectations, poor planning, or like how has been mentioned, just a devil may care attitude about personal responsibility -- the last of which is probably the worst thing of all that liberal politics has done to this country over time.   - OS

Not 371 million of them, 99% of which couldn't grow a garden with starter plants and perfect weather. I'll take a lever gun in .44 mag. Sufficient for pretty much anything on this continent with hand loads. I believe life in a post collapse society will be much less fire fights and much more protecting from occasional looters, with a big dose of hunting, fishing and farming. If you aren't already doing those things, in a sustainable manner, good luck getting started after the collapse. That's why I blacksmith, horse farm, hunt, fish, learned mechanic work, learned construction, etc. Skills, not equipment, will make the difference Sent from behind the anvil

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Smith and Wesson 686. No more words needed. :love:

very good video, whenever i talk about this stuff with friends or family i tell them that i believe that MLKJR is rolling over in his grave at what his people have done with his dream

I'm not prejudice I hate everybody equally.

Just a thought for future video discussions there Fitty, how about addressing the difference between racism and being prejudice? There's a massive difference. Neither of us are racists but I think we both are quite prejudice. We both loathe and despise stupid people, and that's very prejudice. Lol!

  I'm merely saying that the "go to school and live on campus and eat lots of food and have lots of fun and party and drink and maybe accidentally come out with a doctorate in flea breading with a minor in the archaeologic histories of Elvis Presley" mindset might be slightly flawed.   I wish trades were higher valued in high school (for the most part, they aren't). I wish colleges worked better alongside people working a full time job (they are 50/50, could be worse but I do wish they could be better). I wish student loans were not so easy to get and especially not so easy to get "extra". When I signed up for my small student loans ($2,000 a semester for two semesters), I could have taken out much, much more. I took out what I I needed for the courses. Some students see it as fun money and tell themselves that they will pay it off 50 years from now lets just make now worth it.

  Us old geezers think alike.

I watched this guy last night on the world news. That story goes a little further than the one posted to this thread. After hearing both its my opinion he got what he deserved, he just allowed it to go too far. They contacted him in 2012 about his debt and have tried since then to get him to pay the $1500 plus interest. It was at the point where they issued a summons to court in which he gave them a big FO that they went a step further. According to last night's story he now has the original debt plus accrued interest,plus court cost from the arrest, plus the charge by the police that made the arrest. 5700 was the total I think.

If dale Earnhardt was my hero does that make me a racist???? "Fear the intimidator"

Thank you for saying that. I have long felt that the focus on perceived racism is what perpetuates it. Yes, the struggle is real, but you have to struggle. Everyone does. Giving up and saying 'woe is me' is not the struggle. Regardless of the race. I see it a lot in low income White Americans as well, that is where I came from. There was no point in trying, you can just get food stamps and section eight housing. It is always someone else's fault.   I am white, so I am often told that I am not allowed to have an opinion about racism in American, well, any opinion other than 'I am so sorry, my bad.' That offends me. I can't call a spade a spade? If the people that worked so hard in this nation to defeat racism and the established culture against it fifty years ago knew today how all of their work was being distorted, I am pretty confident they would be furious.   I firmly hold the media and politicians accountable for this. Control and controversy. That is what racism is. That is what poverty economics have become.   What happened to the American Dream? A wife, a kid, a nice house on a cul-de-sac, two late model cars in the garage, an education and a stable job? Why did I bust my ass to get here to find out that it is obsolete?

I'm cool with it. When you take a loan, you're agreeing to pay it back. Refusing to pay it back is NOT 'sticking it to the man' it's THEFT. Theives should be in prison. Pretty cut and dry.

    No, because they get to go to school free.   

  Wow.

He is a major league dbag and I am hoping he gets his colon expanded by someone named Avacado and/or Fluffy. Even more of a scumbag for pimping out his skanky wifes crotchspawn who is the posterchild for felching autoerotic asphyixiating mallninjas. All. Must. Burn. Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

Dave Ramsey's baby steps really do work. Some like to trash his ideas saying that the math doesn't work, that you should pay off debt based on the higher interest rates, keep the house payments for the mortgage deduction, etc... Those people confuse personal finance with math. Personal finance is rarely more complicated than 8th grade math. How often have you had to do anything more complicated than simple addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, and the occasional percentage? I don't expect anyone to be using calculus to balance the checking account.   It's about human behavior far more than it's about math. The smallest-to-largest gives people a sense of accomplishment by paying off that small debt. That gives encouragement to keep going and get the next one. As each one falls, it frees up more money each month to attack the next one in line. This gives a double sense of winning because the person sees both the debts disappearing and their cash flow growing. If you take on the one with the biggest interest rate and that happens to be a big nut to crack, you can lose hope when after years of effort it seems like you're going nowhere and those little (lower interest rate) debts keep sucking more of your blood along the way.   If it was all about math, we wouldn't have a debt problem.

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I do not think you can build an above ground shelter that will hold up to a direct hit from a twister. The idea is to protect your self from flying projectiles, ie, trees, metal and such. No way would I build one below ground, house falls in on it, fire and rescue could be days away. Flooding was talked about as well, a heavy rain could fill the space fast. The Safe House sells a "room" that could go into the corner of a room or garage. Made of steel to protect you from flying things. Ours is above ground, imagine a steel re-bar cage in 12 " of concrete in the walls and 6" on the roof.

I really like the ones below the garage floor. It would be comfortable and safe to enter in the middle of the night with rough weather. The last thing I want to do is have to go outside. It would also be 100% tornado proof. My only concern about it is what if a car or other garage junk gets moved on top of the lid? I just noticed that the site I was looking at also sells below garage floor shelters. http://survive-a-storm.com/garagecube-10-person-underground-storm-shelter/

If you were not to far way I would have suggested north side gunshop. I have enjoyed all my purchases there and the owner is kick ass.

I had seen these, and except for a flooding issue, feel this is better than above ground: https://tornadotoughshelters.com/storm-shelters/under-garage The damage I have seen with some of these tornadoes, I would not feel comfortable having vehicles tossed around like matchboxes while I'm in a box above ground.

      Nonsense. While not traditional college, I went through a $26,000 tech school program. Paid for it by working "part time" 40 hour night shifts in a semi truck shop while in school, then going "full time" 50 hour weeks once I graduated. I didn't buy into the "everybody should go to college" line, I looked at what my skillset and interest was and how to squeeze the best income out of it. I could've gone the college route (graduated HS a year early with a 3.8 gpa), but I felt it wasn't for me and my parents supported my decision. Doesn't change the fact that I spent $26,000 for a year of education and paid it off in a year- six months of which while I was still in school. If some idiot decides to spend $100k to get a degree in art, they better have a plan to make money off that degree. If they can't pay it back, it nobody's fault but their own.   My better half went a different route and came out of law school with six figure loan debt. No whining, no crying, no asking for help. You made the decision to take on the debt, I made the decision to spend my life with you. Now we get to live on nothing, work like crazy and pay it off. Took years of 90 hour work weeks, miserable jobs, insufferable bosses, but once it was done it was over and we could move on with life.    The only people financially ruining young people are stupid young people, or maybe their parents. Maybe. I'm still going to blame the guy signing the loan paperwork first, but kids who were never allowed to experience problems as a kid don't know how to handle them as an adult. It's not that I don't have empathy for folks who have suffered catastrophic health issues, but nobody made you sign up for the debt. 

Hello and welcome!

crotchspawn roflmao wow! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk, its either this or smoke signals!

I totally do understand and respect your decision. Was just an idea for a good cause.    Thanks for the reply.

I'm 27. Not all schools are created equal/cost the same. Going to the school that I did awarded me with better networking opportunities and allowed me to study with the BEST of the best in my field, but because of this it was a bit of a pipe dream for paying off those loans short term in my line of work. Should've been an attorney like my twin, but he doesn't get to do half of the cool stuff I do.. :) Good on you for working hard and being debt free, but not every job or dream is the same.

  Well good then! My gripe isn't with smart people who go to school to become smarter and do smart things, but rather the generation that says "Who am I really?" and goes to school for the experience, good times, and if they are lucky enough then a degree in something they thought sounded neat at the time.   The system tells them that is a worthwhile thing to do. They get out of school with $75,000 debt and they work at Chili's because they never really figured out who they were and their schooling isn't directly applicable to them or their situation.   Let me also add that a smart person going to a crazy expensive non-party school would have likely weighed the costs vs benefits and determined that it is worthwhile to them. Racking up several $100,000 for schooling when you are sure you will earn six figures or better within a few years, that's your choice and chance.

O.k. I've decided to try a pig in a poke so to speak. I ordered a used replacement from ebay for $350. It says to be in "good working condition", and has less than 2k miles on it. I don't see any reason I can't replace it as an entire unit myself. If it doesn't work out, I'll take it to my mechanic. If I can fix it for $350, I'll be tickled. If not, I've pissed away money before.

Great, you're one out of how many who could accomplish this because the circumstances favored the outcome?  Try this with a post-graduate degree and see if you can say the same.   I'm not denigrating what you have done, but circumstances vary greatly so you can't say everyone can do the same as you.

I agree, and I appreciate Mac even letting me post this thread. We're almost to our goal now anyways, just a bit further to push so I think we're ok. But I appreciate Bersa's gesture. And I appreciate everyone's help. Thanks David!

Yes...A Model 19! I have a couple and think them the best of the S&W magnums. jmo

Always enjoy your videos Fitty. Thanks for sharing!

I like it. I agree with you, although I'm a bit more of an Ahole about. Hating a man cause of how he was born? Lunacy. You hate a man cause he's a effin idiot, not for the saturation of skin pigment. You look down on a man for his choices in life. I don't recall being consulted before I was born and no one else has either. The people who perpetuate this nonsense need to grasp their racism firmly in both hands and shove it up their azz.

How about some visitation rights Caster;

I don't always wear an ankle holster but when I do it is a Galco......stay armed my friends.... :cheers: