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I think a handgun should come with 1-2 magazines with the option of buying 2-4 more at a significant discount at the time of purchase. 

No one "throws in" anything. There's no such thing as free.

  That will never happen, especially when the general mentality is "lowest monthly payment possible".

Yeah, but Randall... You can't brag to your neighbor that you have a $40k truck and a $65k boat either.   That has to be worth the $1500/month payment :)

Everybody gets punished when the idiots come out.

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If you don't think a truck or boat is worth it, don't buy it. I don't get why so many get so worked up over what someone else spends for a vehicle. Vehicles are expensive, yes. It's only going to get worse.

Ha! Friend of mine was just telling me what a great deal on his new truck. Ford F-350, 2015, diesel big ass engine 4 wheel drive all the goodies, etc,blah,blah. Listed at $65,00 and he was so thrilled to bring it home at $56,000. What the hell are people smoking?

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Then buy used, let the other guy pay

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I know there are a couple guys here that are shall we say anti-confederate. That is fine.   Now on the war of northern aggression many think everyone who wore the gray was fighting to protect slavery. They are not aware most Yankees did not want to end slavery, were more racist than most southerners and did not want blacks in the north. They often are not aware the vast majority who fought for the south did not own slaves ( like 95% or more) on top of that a key issue was simply people not liking Yankees telling us how to run our lives.   Now they think we fought a four year, brother against brother war over slavery? What do they think we would do over trying to fool with our guns? Hell lots of Yankees would be joining us from places like PA and western NY.     I think they will be getting a southern welcome they soon won't forget. On top of that you have a nation that is letting illegal immigration go on uncontrolled as well as third world immigration eroding our culture. They really think people will stand by for that?

Me either, mine certainly never looks that good.... hehe   I give new meaning to "BUTCHER" when it comes to processing.

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Ideally, none.  I'd generally prefer a cylinder, instead. :D   To answer the question, though, I think a new semiauto pistol should include two magazines.  Being that some problems with such firearms can be largely magazine related I have to wonder how many times a 'defective' new pistol could be 'repaired' simply by using a different magazine.  I know that one could simply go and buy a second mag to make sure that isn't the problem before sending it back under warranty, trading it or whatever but who wants to buy a second mag separately only to find out that the mag isn't the problem?

Quote "This is getting out of control now."   Yes it is but only because he is running out of time and getting desperate to get something passed or get around the 2nd Amendment before he is out of office. That is also why it is so very important that his office is not filled with the Hildebeast next election or she will walk in his foot steps..............jmho

I think 2. If I want more, then I can buy more and usually do, but for many people that is enough, home protection for instance. The more mags supplied the higher the price will be on the initial purchase. Why should non sport or competition shooters pay for mags they won't ever use or need, is my thinking.

Nonsense. Old books depicting the good old days will have long since been burned by the State...

  Well Haslam was an anti-gun Mayor, a Bloomberg toadie but since he represents on the entire state of Tennessee as Governor he wouldn't dare EO an anti-gun policy. Write him an insist he EO's some things we are wanting like, remove the criminal penalty for carrying past a sign, require the business to tell you to leave first. That's a starter but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for him to do that. I would however love to hear the liberals scream and yell, "you don't have the authority to do that with an EO."

  Well crap, I need to take it down then.  

The author of the New Republic article is some smarmy hipster chick who lives in Toronto... wtf does she know about guns or US issues anyway? She only wishes she was American. Phoebe Maltz Bovy?? Hopefully she will be the one to personally initiate the door-to-door confiscation process? Or not. Looking at her smirk, I think I just threw up a little in my mouth. Not exactly somebody I'd want to wake up next to after a drunken party...

Universal background checks (UBC) is just a stepping stone to registration. The only way to make sure that people aren't transferring without background checks is to have an auditable inventory for everyone...that's what they'll say after UBC is law.

In all honesty I think Obama knows exactly what he is doing. The politicians and news Medias that say Obama doesn't have a clue what he is doing I think are all wrong. He does know what he is doing and he is doing exactly what he wants to do and that is to weaken America in every way possible and it is working to a point. The only thing he has not been able to do is disarm the American people and that is what is preventing him from making his entire plan work. "An American with a gun behind every blade of Grass" was what prevented an invasion of the Japanese right after Pearl Harbor and that was back in 1941. That was a quote from an Imperial Japanese Admiral aboard  a Japanese aircraft that was steaming back to Japan from Pearl harbor when he was asked why they did not attack the American homeland. I would be afraid to try and count all the guns behind blades of grass in this country now but you can bet it's a lot more than back in 1941..................jmho

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Send it back to benchmade, they will fix it under warranty.  But, that doesn't mean you can't get a new one too.

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  So true. Saturday I was looking at a used 2012 Silverado with 130,000 miles on it. They wanted $20K for it still.   It's ridiculous how much trucks are right now.

I am just a big ol walking contradiction...

No I did not get a .40 you smug bastards. I actually let go of my Glock 29 and 30 - as sad as I am to let Glocks go those subcompact fat frames dont bode well with me. Traded both for a RIA Tactical 1911 and a Sig P220. So I became a hypocrite and got myself another Sig and a RIA lol. The wife loves the Sig, and gave me the look of "really? Thought you hated these" Never getting a .40 though. Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

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I always thought it was the wonder monkeys.

Fiber Optic or something with Photoluminescent paint on the front site.  Blacked out rear.  Helps to only focus on front site.  REally only need tritium for low-light (no-light) shooting.   Talon makes both rubberized and more aggressive (sand-paper like) grip panels. 

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So far so good, I defleshed the head taking off as much soft tissue as I could get out. Lesson learned, make sure the pot is hot enough. I wasted a few hours bathing it instead of simmering, but it went faster when the heat was turned up. The most difficult area was in the nose cavity, at first I tried to save as much bone as I could but there is so much tissue in there that I finally just pulled out a few of the thinner rollpin looking bones. I was worried about the nose ridge and the roof of his mouth because of how thin they are but they it came out OK. Here is a pic of after the defleshing and one with the peroxide cream doing its thing. Edit: Figured I would add the completed mount

The left will lie, cheat or steal our gun rights if we let them. Every time someone sneezes these dipsticks want more gun control. If the loser in chief would do his job instead of undermining the middle class America we would be much better off.

 If someone came in and bought 60 cell phones at 4 AM.   http://www.kspr.com/news/local/large-quantity-of-cellphones-bought-raises-red-flags/21051620_36871174

Of course not.  It has to be a slow erosion just like with health care.  They couldn't come right out and say individual health insurance is illegal and we're going to single payer, they had to write legislation that would slowly kill the private sector and now look at the "progress" in just a few years.  :shake:

    I am like this.  Even if f I take the AK to the range I reload the magazine I am using.  There is enough "cold" range time to do it, more than enough.   I prefer shooting revolvers both double and single action when shooting handguns.  I find the unloading and reloading very therapeutic. Just banging away doesn't do it for me.

Remington Etronix High quality peice of crap that was a major fail.

I'd rather have one Sig 220 than 2 Glocks. Getting the 1911 too makes it a no-brainer.

I LOVE the pen holder!

http://www.amazon.com/Gripmaster-Exerciser-Medium-Tension-7-Pounds/dp/B0006GC5D8/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1449882445&sr=1-1&keywords=gripmaster+medium   I recommend the Medium.  It's cheaper than a trigger job or modifying the gun.

I have sent a proposed bill to my legislator. Cell phones should be outlawed if they are capable of dialing more than 10 numbers, can be modified to auto dial, or can be silenced. A five day mandatory waiting period should be in place after a Federal  records check. The buyer should also have an affidavit from his doctor stating he has no medical health problems. WE KNOW TO DEAL WITH THIS PROBLEM!

Maybe we need laws against bulk cell phone purchases.  :rolleyes:   They could be selling them in some kind of black market/underground.  Small side business where going to a distributor isn't needed, or wanted since that purchase would create a record that can be traced for tax purposes.   I love how everything is snapped back to terrorism by default.  Sad how scared we've become.  Tell me more about the event...what kind of phones (smartphones vs. early 2000s style), did they buy SIM Cards and/or minutes to go with the phones, are there incoming refugees or any other already in place population that could be a market for these phones (even a prison to smuggle them into qualifies)...things like that can put a bulk purchase in context and push terrorism as the instant answer easily enough.   Oh, and in 2015, I guess my cellphone is a "potential tool" of terror, especially since I have it encrypted.  Oh the threat to freedom I am.

If a couple BG's burst into a room where you're sitting around a table and start banging away with rifles.... honestly, you're pretty much f__ked.  It's up to God or fate or whatever you believe in to get you out of that one.    Awareness is about the only take-away I can come up with.  As I understand it, these folks were at a "holiday" (read Christmas) party and the Muslim guy in the office left pissed off (shock).  I get the impression no one in there would have ever dreamed he'd come back with a friend to kill them all.  Be aware where-ever you are.  Always know where the exits are.  Always know what might work as cover (which is pretty much nothing in a typical office building).   Maybe improving your draw/fire time is another take-away.  Seconds count.  Fractions of seconds count. 

I'd get one specific to the model.  You might have to order it, but there are plenty of options out there for that pistol - including one made by Desantis.   We're it me, I'd check out D.M. Bullard's offerings.

Honestly I've never seen the sense in carrying if it isn't ready to use.