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I think a handgun should come with 1-2 magazines with the option of buying 2-4 more at a significant discount at the time of purchase. 

No one "throws in" anything. There's no such thing as free.

  That will never happen, especially when the general mentality is "lowest monthly payment possible".

Yeah, but Randall... You can't brag to your neighbor that you have a $40k truck and a $65k boat either.   That has to be worth the $1500/month payment :)

Everybody gets punished when the idiots come out.

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If you don't think a truck or boat is worth it, don't buy it. I don't get why so many get so worked up over what someone else spends for a vehicle. Vehicles are expensive, yes. It's only going to get worse.

Ha! Friend of mine was just telling me what a great deal on his new truck. Ford F-350, 2015, diesel big ass engine 4 wheel drive all the goodies, etc,blah,blah. Listed at $65,00 and he was so thrilled to bring it home at $56,000. What the hell are people smoking?

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Then buy used, let the other guy pay

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I know there are a couple guys here that are shall we say anti-confederate. That is fine.   Now on the war of northern aggression many think everyone who wore the gray was fighting to protect slavery. They are not aware most Yankees did not want to end slavery, were more racist than most southerners and did not want blacks in the north. They often are not aware the vast majority who fought for the south did not own slaves ( like 95% or more) on top of that a key issue was simply people not liking Yankees telling us how to run our lives.   Now they think we fought a four year, brother against brother war over slavery? What do they think we would do over trying to fool with our guns? Hell lots of Yankees would be joining us from places like PA and western NY.     I think they will be getting a southern welcome they soon won't forget. On top of that you have a nation that is letting illegal immigration go on uncontrolled as well as third world immigration eroding our culture. They really think people will stand by for that?

Me either, mine certainly never looks that good.... hehe   I give new meaning to "BUTCHER" when it comes to processing.

God blessed me with an unexpected Christmas bonus...I then received a solicitation from KARM asking for donations to help provide Christmas Dinner...100 children of God will be fed not because of me but thanks to "yet another coincidence" if you believe in such things :-)

Ideally, none.  I'd generally prefer a cylinder, instead. :D   To answer the question, though, I think a new semiauto pistol should include two magazines.  Being that some problems with such firearms can be largely magazine related I have to wonder how many times a 'defective' new pistol could be 'repaired' simply by using a different magazine.  I know that one could simply go and buy a second mag to make sure that isn't the problem before sending it back under warranty, trading it or whatever but who wants to buy a second mag separately only to find out that the mag isn't the problem?

Quote "This is getting out of control now."   Yes it is but only because he is running out of time and getting desperate to get something passed or get around the 2nd Amendment before he is out of office. That is also why it is so very important that his office is not filled with the Hildebeast next election or she will walk in his foot steps..............jmho

I think 2. If I want more, then I can buy more and usually do, but for many people that is enough, home protection for instance. The more mags supplied the higher the price will be on the initial purchase. Why should non sport or competition shooters pay for mags they won't ever use or need, is my thinking.

Nonsense. Old books depicting the good old days will have long since been burned by the State...

  Well Haslam was an anti-gun Mayor, a Bloomberg toadie but since he represents on the entire state of Tennessee as Governor he wouldn't dare EO an anti-gun policy. Write him an insist he EO's some things we are wanting like, remove the criminal penalty for carrying past a sign, require the business to tell you to leave first. That's a starter but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for him to do that. I would however love to hear the liberals scream and yell, "you don't have the authority to do that with an EO."

  Well crap, I need to take it down then.  

The author of the New Republic article is some smarmy hipster chick who lives in Toronto... wtf does she know about guns or US issues anyway? She only wishes she was American. Phoebe Maltz Bovy?? Hopefully she will be the one to personally initiate the door-to-door confiscation process? Or not. Looking at her smirk, I think I just threw up a little in my mouth. Not exactly somebody I'd want to wake up next to after a drunken party...

Universal background checks (UBC) is just a stepping stone to registration. The only way to make sure that people aren't transferring without background checks is to have an auditable inventory for everyone...that's what they'll say after UBC is law.

In all honesty I think Obama knows exactly what he is doing. The politicians and news Medias that say Obama doesn't have a clue what he is doing I think are all wrong. He does know what he is doing and he is doing exactly what he wants to do and that is to weaken America in every way possible and it is working to a point. The only thing he has not been able to do is disarm the American people and that is what is preventing him from making his entire plan work. "An American with a gun behind every blade of Grass" was what prevented an invasion of the Japanese right after Pearl Harbor and that was back in 1941. That was a quote from an Imperial Japanese Admiral aboard  a Japanese aircraft that was steaming back to Japan from Pearl harbor when he was asked why they did not attack the American homeland. I would be afraid to try and count all the guns behind blades of grass in this country now but you can bet it's a lot more than back in 1941..................jmho

Far enough into the future, if we still have government, probably any of them. :ugh:   - OS

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Send it back to benchmade, they will fix it under warranty.  But, that doesn't mean you can't get a new one too.

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I also have a RCBS beam scale. Super accurate. An electronic scale really shines when you're checking already-dispensed powder charges. But for trickling charges, I use the RCBS.

No, nothing wrong with it. It runs well, and I've kept it well maintained. The only real concern is that the mileage is getting to the point where I'm concerned about taking it on road trips. I could rent for those sort of trips, though.

I have three of them. Work great. Way better deal than the Taran unless you want a +2. Tarans are ridiculously priced.

It's all the luxury and technology they stuff in them.   Add the fact that most of them now come with twin turbo V6's, 4 cam 32 valve V8's and have lots of HP.   My advice. I'd keep that truck of yours as long as you can keep it going and it is safe. If your willing to keep it going, it'll save you money the longer you keep driving it.

It's several things together. All the options that make a truck appealing to the masses that don't need one just like the look are both expensive and heavy. All the modern safety features that are mandated by the government are both expensive and heavy. The government mandated efficiency levels, both emissions and fuel economy, are expensive to implement and meet. Not to mention the R&D to develop said systems. The options and safety features mentioned previously that add weight makes the vehicle less fuel efficient, they then have to do R&D to use either aerodynamics or the power train to reduce fuel consumption. Materials are also getting more and more expensive every day. The quality and quantity levels required from the manufacturer require state of the art facilities to produce the vehicles. You also have the fact that most if not all inside the US are Union on top of that making more money than they should be( yes I can say this because I have worked on the assembly line for a car manufacturer) It's a lot of things together, but mostly just blame the government, they are the root of all problems not money, lol

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    Combining the two post answers. Yep, musicman is right. Most LGS stock mags only on the basis of most common guns and those that sell quickly. Finding anything other than 1911 mags, some glock, and AR mags in a shop is rare.

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I have the Pearce extensions on 3 G43 mags and have had no problems.

I have one on my 43 and it functions fine, don't know about long term but I have had it a few months and shot about a box of 9mm with no issues. Was going to get Strikeindustries EMP  + 2 extension rather than pearce but they have been unavailable for Months.

Welcome Mark, I'm just 90 minute or so North of you SOuth of Jonesborough. We moved from Western NY for the same reason and a few other things :-)   I'm from NW Ohio originally but didn't want to move back there, still to much Winter.

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Yes he knows exactly what he is doing. Today he is asking the Governors to enact gun control by executive decision. Connecticut already agreed.   Write Haslem and tell him not to go along with O's back door plan. This is getting out of control now. 

I find they work quite well also. I have about 10 of them on different walls and doors around my place. When folks that have not been here before ask me about them I tell that that as my aim improves I replace old ones with new ones. They just get this blank kind of stare and change subjects. A few of my friends will warn someone that has never been to my house that I have strange ideas when it comes to decor so just try to ignore it............ :rofl: :rofl:

Oh, I don't know, maybe because theirs look like this?

If we have a civil war in the name of gun control. I think I want to be on the side that has guns. :wave:

My current trend for dealing with solicitors is to open the door, immediately say "Not interested" and immediately shut and lock the door and walk away. Seems to work pretty well - no one has tried knocking a second time.    AT&T pestered me non-stop when U-verse was first available in my neighborhood. One of the five times they came by, I was fueling up my mower and they wanted to chat. Told them I wasn't interested and kept prepping the mower. They were still talking when I fired up the mower and started cutting the lawn. The look on their faces was priceless.

This one has worked well so far lol. I think most people are more afraid of hard work than they would be of Satan Sent from behind the anvil

Since we're sharing.... I've never brined a turkey. Step 1 is making darn sure the bird is completely thawed before you start, and you really want the whole bird at nearly room temp before you put it on the smoker. I rub mine down with olive oil and maybe some herbs of some sort, quarter and onion and an apple and stuff inside, and put it on the smoker breast down. If you've never done one before, I'd suggest starting with a small-ish bird at 12-14 lbs. Mine typically smoke for 8-12 hrs, depending on the size of the bird and the ambient temp. I put a mixture of cheap beer, water, and apple juice in the water pan. And since the smoker's going, may as well fill it up.... :yum:

Here the one I did.

My house got broken into a few years ago and the crooks made off with several of my firearms. After I got the insurance money (and a safe), I went to the LGS to obtain some replacements. As I walked out of the store with two Glocks, an AR15, an AK, and a 12 gauge shotgun I remember thinking "man, I hope someone doesn't think I'm about to go postal and SWAT me."

If it works, why join the frenzy? It might bankrupt a company making a good product. Not taking sides and I don't own one... But I don't operate in adverse conditions like mil/leo's so if my EOTech worked flawlessly as a civilian owned range toy, I would not try to get a refund.

Sounds like dynamite when used at max pressure stuffed in a .357sig case to me. Or 9x25dillon