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Looks like Rosie Odonnel in a snuggie.

How about WE, as in staff, use the feedback system we have. If a member decides to be a turd behind the scenes leave him a negative feedback. With everyone having positives a negative would really stand out. We already have it in place and other members can see the feedback unlike our warning point system.   Or if you want you can turn me loose on them. I don't care what they do to me as I already have experience in dealing with internet turds and have all the time in the world to hold them accountable.

And Class 3, to boot!!

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I would say the same thing about people who follow grown men playing silly games with a ball. Many people find fictitious things dumb or beneath them but sports are equally worthless. It's all pass time. If it makes you happy (and it's legal) it's all good.

  I always throw stuff like this up when folks say doesn't matter who's president.   SCOTUS is ever so barely currently "for" gun rights (and even Scalia has opined that perhaps not every type gun is guaranteed by 2A).   But imagine the changes the next four (and probably eight) years will bring in the court's makeup, with about half of them likely to leave by then.   Though it's not a sure bet exactly what overall tone a court with 2-4 more appointed by a Republican prez, it's a damn sure bet what tone it'll be if same is done by a Dem like Hillary or Bernie or even Uncle Joe. It'll go so far left you'll need a 10x optic just to see it at all.   - OS

Folks over at Lucky gunner must have found a Ballistics Gel Blue-Light Special!   http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-defense-ammo-ballistic-tests/   Just about every size and brand of handgun ammo out there.   - Kevin

As soon as someone said Buford, I knew that picture was coming.....

So I am thinking about starting a TGO Hall of Shame upon which I will post the names of members who have, for various reasons, earned themselves a public shunning.   Extreme?  Hear me out.  :)   Every so often I have to spend an hour or so of my time in email and on the phone fighting to keep $20.  Because every so often someone buys a Benefactor membership here, uses it to post some ads in the Trading Post, and then goes to PayPal and disputes the charge saying that we charged them without authorization.  :rolleyes:   Bear in mind that we do not do automatically recurring subscriptions for this precise reason.  I never want TGO to automatically debit someone's account and be the reason why they overdraft at their bank, or can't buy groceries or put gas in their car.  An unexpected debit could easily cause any of those scenarios to play out.   So when someone buys a Benefactor membership, it's not a mistake.  They did it willingly.  And as most of you know, a Benefactor membership on TGO has some pretty immediate value and perks, the least of which not being the ability to use our Trading Post to post advertisements.  Which means that anyone who summarily demands a refund from PayPal is essentially trying to defraud TGO and "screw the system", so to speak.   And that's why I am tempted to start a Hall of Shame.   Because if you're willing to rip us off, everyone ought to know it.   :shrug:   What do you guys think?    

Thanks for the feedback so far folks.  I'm not going to carry through with the idea.  It was cathartic to just get it out of my system.    

Better that than be around guns with him methinks :)

No, I think I would tell him if'n it was me!   Dave

Even if you do find people that want to train, making sure all the personalities mesh can be tough. 

As long as you duct tape it to your thigh like Gecko45 does you are good to go ;) I was gonna quote TN 39-17-1308 but Prag beat me to it Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

I read the article that Oshoot posted and in one of the replies, a person stated that they that statement was referring to her and Carl being able to sneak out of the compound so easily with all of the blindspots available to them. That does make sense. It was only she and Carl in the room.

Did anyone catch the little gal Carl is buddys with slip of the tongue?  She said WE.  "There's too many blind spots.  That's how we were able to...."  Then Carl cuts her off.  She's a mole.    Tell your little girlfriend goodbye Carl.  If your old man finds out, she's toast.  

Weeks later: Be.. sure.. to... drink... your... Ovaltine...

I don't know why you would say a Phoenix is junk. I have owned 3 of them and none of them were junk. Each one was very accurate, never had a FTF and would shoot about any ammo out there. I have one right now and still shoot it often at the range with zero problems. The only issue I have with them are they do have more safeties than I like on a gun but that would be my only complaint....JMHO

I see no point in shaking up or changing the system because someone wants to pull a scam; I would deal with them and move on.

My cousin got his first deer with a bow. An 11 pointer. Little asshole. Lol

Back when I was fishing with my son in law we only used Seven Points launch ramp because it is well lit at night. Also when I would approach the dock to load at 1 or 2 AM I would do a scan of the entire parking area and woods around it before letting my Son In law out on the dock to get the trailer. In case I have not shown the front of my Skeeter on here I have a pair of Airliner Landing lights mounted on the front that will light up a football field and are really hard to actually look into directly so when I turn them on things do light up a lot. I also hand him one of my pistols I have in the boat to walk to the truck with and I keep the lights on with gun in hand to back him up. I worry about him fishing alone now with my eye sight but he now will take a friend along and he does same procedure and now has his own HCP and packs his own heat.

Morgan and guns.   Seems a big continuity problem here regarding Morgan and guns. Thought idea was he didn't have any truck with them, yet:   - When Carol is leading him on chain as ruse to get to the armory, you can clearly see a handgun in holster on his right side. (which the passing Wolves who give her kudos didn't notice either)   - Then after Carol shoots the tied up Wolf that tried to kill Gabriel, she hands a handgun to both Morgan and Gabriel, Morgan gives his to Gabriel, saying something or other to the effect he doesn't believe in using them. But we already know he has one on his hip, which also begs the question of why she even gave him one in the first place?   You can also see the heater on his hip toward the end when he and Carol are doing the aftermath walk around.   WTF?   - OS

No, you should ban them. If I understand what you are saying, they know they need to be a benefactor to sell something. So they place the item for sale and then later dispute the charge? Who wants to buy and sell guns with people like that; ban them and call it a day. I’m generally against banning people over BS; buts that’s just plain criminal. You could post who they are though for the entertainment value or in case they sell other places. A lot of us have been benefactors a long time and rarely sell anything.

Ever drive around, see a field full of deer & think: "I wonder who I have to talk to to get permission to hunt that?" Well, here you go. It's a little awkward to navigate & you really have to be sure of the property you're looking for, but it lists the landowner of ever parcel of private property in the State. Anything that doesn't have a name (as best as I can tell) is TWRA, TVA or WMA. :D http://tnmap.tn.gov/mobile/assessment/#mapPage

You'll like the 43, I have become interested in one after playing with a blue gun model of one.

My 300 BO has an unresolved feeding issue, but the reloads Ron let me use fed much more reliably out of a gen 2 pmag vs the hexmags I had. The hexmags worked flawlessly with 5.56 though.   Gordon, will are these the kind of Lancers you could recommend? http://www.rainierarms.com/lancer-systems-l5awm-20rd-mag-translucent-smoke

  I shot high power across the course for about 12 plus years.  I got in about the time everyone was starting to change over to the black rifle.  The M14's dominated the sport up until then but faster twist barrels barrels and high BC heavy .224 bullets were giving the .308 guys some unwanted competition.  You will find a few old schoolers still shooting the M14, M1A's and Garands but the AR's are the way to go if you are shooting short to mid-range.  In distance shooting 600 yards in considered mid range.  Then came along F Class,  many of the older shooters that were not up to shooting standing and sitting decided we'll create something where all we have to do is shoot slow fire prone and make it a challenge we'll only shoot at 1000 yards.  Somewhere about 10 or so years ago there were way too many perfect 200 - 20X scores so they tightened up the scoring rings.  Some reduced courses do exist due to range limitations aiming black and scoring rings are adjusted for MOA.   Just for fun I've shot my AR out to 1000 yards and kept them in the scoring rings and like most rifles the gun can out perform the operator more times than not.  I'm not going to get into wind calling and mirage, you'll figure all that stuff out if you stick with it.   Now having said all that I would not attempt F Class without a bolt gun.  You can be competitive with a .223/5.56, that is if you are will to spend a lot of time load testing and practicing.  You said you have a .308, if it's a bolt gun that's what I would recommend but you should still do some load testing if you want to be competitive.  Long distance shooters tend to be some of the most anal OCD types I've ever been around.  Not saying that in a degrading way to them or anyone else of that nature but that's the way they lean and you have to be to some extent if you plan to keep shots in the X ring at this distance.   I guarantee that if you show up for a match and make it know it's all new to you, they will do everything to accommodate you.  While I was shooting we had people show up occasionally and said they just wanted to watch.  Well before you knew it we would scrounge up enough equipment and they would be shooting on the next relay. 

I'll second the Lancer recommendation.  They work great with 300blk.  220gr subs, 110gr supers....doesn't matter.  They all feed 100%.

To be fair, George Lucas said the same thing about books not being canon for future movies long before Disney was anywhere close to the franchise. As soon as the books started coming out, Lucas said he had authorized them, but wouldn't take them in to consideration if/when he made any more Star Wars movies.   The books really do hem them in many ways. Pretty much every year in the lives of the main characters from the end of ROTJ onwards has been occupied by the books. That means any movie has to go the the end of the books and start from there. Chewie can't be in them because he's dead by that point, Han and Leia have to be married and have had 3 kids, Luke has to have restarted the Jedi order in a specific way, the public has to have general knowledge about the Jedi and the Sith, you have to deal with a Luke Skywalker character who is as powerful as Yoda or Palpatine, plus he's not the most powerful one around, etc.   I can understand saying "screw that. That's not the story we want to tell."   Then you also have the issues of references to the Clone Wars in the books not lining up with the 3 prequel movies. The Dreadnaught starships come to mind. The books make them out to have been all the rage and kind of the standard issue capitol ship during the Clone Wars, but they're nowhere to be found in the movies. Oops.

Just keep zooming until you find the property, click on it & a box pops up, click on the thingy in the box & all the owners details show up for you!

I would reccomend a 9mm for a first purchase. Ammo is always available, there are great rounds for higher power/self defense and hundreds of 9mm handguns available. Also an added bonus is its extremely easy to load for. .22s are fun but I do not trust them for self defense, they do not recoil enough to get a real feel for handguns and the ammo availability is scarce. I hate .40s so I cannot help you there, its a neutered round with horrible ballistics - I would tell you to get a 10mm but since you are still getting cozy a 9mm works very well. Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

The most reliable magazines for the 300 is Lancer. Magpul are the worst because they have side ribs as well as the front rib. They are probably the best for 5.56 but Pmags are the worst for 300 Blackout.   I really wish a magazine maker would make a 300 Blackout magazine like AK magazines without any internal ribs. I loaded some LONG 300 Blackout rounds into a 5.56 AK magazine and they worker PERFECTLY. I have contacted all the magazine makers I know of and so far none have realized the potential for this. If I knew someone in the biz I would probably figure out a way to fund it.

Renting them to get the feel of what fits you and what you can shoot well is a good way to go.  I would get something besides a .22, ammo is becoming more available but until it gets to pre-shortage levels I would avoid it.  9mm is what the military uses and has always been available no matter what, though a bit higher priced at times.  There are a plethora of 9mm guns available so you should have no shortage of choices.  I have .40 cals in a Glock23 and an XDs, they are good guns that are fun to shoot and IMHO not much more harder to shoot than a 9mm.

Kinda diggin' that Barnes Tac stuff. Looks amazing in each caliber. Super disappointed in the Remington HTP stuff. I had been carrying a mix of Hornady Critical Duty or Critical Defense in 9 or 40, but I wasn't so impressed with the results for them. Especially in 40. Awesome compilation of data!

Hey guys. I wanted to say thanks again to Mike D. aka LawEnforcementSalesTN. A while back he offered a great flight simulator setup for fee in the Trading Post. I took him up on his generous offer and my now 15 year old daughter is 6 flight hours into her private pilot license! I just wanted to share this. I know I haven't been very active lately. I have been pretty busy and mostly too broke to shoot much lately. Here is one of the many reasons why. A pic of her very first lesson's preflight inspection: Thanks Mike! -southernasylum

Justice Roberts, fine Constitution scholar that he is, missed the obvious point that if the ACA penalty is a tax, it's a direct tax since it's levied directly by the federal government onto individual citizens. The Constitution says that direct taxes must be apportioned - every citizen must pay the same amount. Since the ACA "tax" falls only on some citizens, it's obviously unconstitutional. But, "At this point in time, what does it matter?"

Ditto the above. Also, if anyone backs out, hit me up I can cover a 2nd. I'll just tell my wife it is a Christmas present for the boy . . . [emoji2] what 12 month old doesn't need one? Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

I might go see it theaters, if I do I'll go in costume and just weld a funnel to the end of my P1. That'll look like some kinda space gun, right?   Should I paint the tip orange?   Seriously, they can wand me all they want, as long as they don't mind me making lightsaber noises at the top of my voice every time they move the metal detector. Maybe I can start a duel...

Meh, they already fingerprint you for ammo sales in LA county, see how well that solved the violence there? Why a fellow could almost stroll through Watts at midnight these days. :rolleyes:

DO IIIIITTTTT!!! Mainly because I'm like 12 and love to see the drama. Otherwise it's probably a waste of your already limited time.

It's been a while since this happened but yes, we had someone post a bunch of stuff for sale and then try to reverse charges a few months later.  After going back and forth with the member's bank over it, I finally just told them to refund the person and I banned them permanently from the site.   The more I think about the notion of just taking the high road, the more I think it's probably the right idea.

Headshot?

  Technically that was just David Gilmour... but it's a fantastic show. 

  It's always refreshing when Carol gets to bare her teeth.   - OS

I'm not a benefactor, I am here for local comrade, fellowship, sharing of info and fun.  I really don't have a dog in this race, but if my opinion matters, take the high road.  Move on.   

Do it.  For this specific case, where someone posted an AD and then tried to get out of the charges, there is no contest as to their intent.  

I am all for it.  Shame away.  The electronic version of putting the bounced checks on the wall behind the cashier.

I practically grew up on my Grandfathers Farm/Ranch in Cheatham County and we had whole hog Bar-B-Ques for family gatherings every summer 3 times. Beginning on Memorial Day and ending on Labor Day and my Grandfather was very particular about his wood. It was 70% Hickory and 30% oak and we would cook an entire hog for about 20 to 24 hours on an open pit using nothing except hot ash chips from a large fire burning about 20 feet from the hog. Family men tended the fire and shoveled hot coals under the hog all during cooking process. it did take about 24 hours to cook a 175 to 200 lbs hog that way but it was a wonderful experience and I got to hear some great stories from the elders of the family as they sat around the fire. My Grandmother made the Bar B Q sauce that was mopped on the hog about 10 or 12 times during cooking.    I sure do miss those days of family gatherings. It seems as the elders of the family began dying off their traditions died off with them. My family has spread to the four winds and no longer gather except to bury someone and only then do many folks find out that the family is getting smaller...............I still have my memories and they do come to me when I also drive by a BBQ pit during cooking hours............Just an old mans memories is all................. :up: Oh yea forgot to mention the quart fruit jar that was always being passed around while the stories were going on. I don't think any of them would have been complete without that fruit jar....... :rofl: 

The FSD shoot is to raise money for Toys for Tots.  It's not a LE sanctioned or demonstration.  I can assure everyone here none of these weapons are owned by any LE agency nor would they sponsor any such event... that, you can definitely thank the media for.    We do hope to raise money for a good cause and let you folks shoot some guns you might not have had an opportunity to shoot before.  None of us backing this are pocketing a cent from it.  On top of that I'm sure it's going to cost us all several thousand in maintenance after the shoot.  These things are not cheap to keep running and I'm not talking about the ammo.    But come on JR, not you too ;o) .. et tu Brute ;o) ... As far as to why... I have to ask why not? We all remember the BOA robbery in LA with the full autos and the police were outgunned for over an hour?  They were outgunned because of the touchy feely media pressure.  You are correct though, the media has every department on their toes and under normal circumstances most of this weaponry would not be needed.  Our SWAT only has a few select fire weapons but we ourselves have been in a few shootings recently where our deputies did not even have patrol rifles.  Just by fate backup arrived who did and ended the firefight and we went home.  I can tell you  It's a daunting task to engage someone with a rifle, even a deer rifle and all you have is a G22.  Is a 240B or SAW needed, 99.9% of the time heck no... I hope and pray they're never needed but at the same time I see nothing wrong with any agency being prepared.  You don't normally need a sledgehammer to drive a thumbtack but if you show up and there's a railroad tie that needs hammering would be nice to have that sledgehammer.  The same media that looks at that boat or any of our guns and says why would also be the one when 50 people are killed by some jacked up meth head with an arsenal at his disposal asking why we were not prepared for the worse.  You can't win with these jerks and I for one don't waste an ounce of worry on what our leader thinks is too much... when he walks around without his secret service detail armed to the tee then he can throw stones at us.    Our job is to protect the public and ALL of us go home... period... it's not supposed to be fair.. we don't start the fights but we are tasked with meeting force with force.    We ARE responsible for every round that leaves any of our weapons and every officer knows that.  Given this, media or not, I would never expect any LE agency, border or not, to roll up onto any public demonstration anywhere (not just TN) with a MRAP mounted with LMGs.  Same token though, I'm sure the THP doesn't fire up the boat above when they want to check to be sure folks fishing licenses are up to date... these weapons have specific purposes and would be used in special circumstances.  I'm sure Ferguson had much more firepower than they showed up with... but their officers riding up in MRAP with the crowd throwing rocks and god knows what, I don't see any harm in that at all.  My media rant is why should those in charge of order be concerned with how they look when they're up against people who clearly have no issue with disobeying the laws.... The first level of force in any situation is officer presence... Hopefully that alone discourages most the rift raft... But even when THP boat is just being trailered down the interstate, it's serving a purpose in my mind...if nothing more it says don't start nothing, won't be nothing!   I dig the bravos too!  little jealous, would love to drop that sucker in at Watts Bar ;o)

I have tons of antlers and pieces there of. I would rather gift a piece than sell it. Give me an idea of how big.   Dave