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So I am thinking about starting a TGO Hall of Shame upon which I will post the names of members who have, for various reasons, earned themselves a public shunning.   Extreme?  Hear me out.  :)   Every so often I have to spend an hour or so of my time in email and on the phone fighting to keep $20.  Because every so often someone buys a Benefactor membership here, uses it to post some ads in the Trading Post, and then goes to PayPal and disputes the charge saying that we charged them without authorization.  :rolleyes:   Bear in mind that we do not do automatically recurring subscriptions for this precise reason.  I never want TGO to automatically debit someone's account and be the reason why they overdraft at their bank, or can't buy groceries or put gas in their car.  An unexpected debit could easily cause any of those scenarios to play out.   So when someone buys a Benefactor membership, it's not a mistake.  They did it willingly.  And as most of you know, a Benefactor membership on TGO has some pretty immediate value and perks, the least of which not being the ability to use our Trading Post to post advertisements.  Which means that anyone who summarily demands a refund from PayPal is essentially trying to defraud TGO and "screw the system", so to speak.   And that's why I am tempted to start a Hall of Shame.   Because if you're willing to rip us off, everyone ought to know it.   :shrug:   What do you guys think?    

No, you should ban them. If I understand what you are saying, they know they need to be a benefactor to sell something. So they place the item for sale and then later dispute the charge? Who wants to buy and sell guns with people like that; ban them and call it a day. I’m generally against banning people over BS; buts that’s just plain criminal. You could post who they are though for the entertainment value or in case they sell other places. A lot of us have been benefactors a long time and rarely sell anything.

You are in Tennessee; you pull a sword and you will get shot. Don't bring a knife (or sword) to a gun fight.

That old hag needs to shut her damn pie hole. She couldn't be Secretary of State without disaster so I have no idea why anyone would feel she could be a decent POTUS. Then again....look at the loonies that support crap like she's spouting. Honest to God......any moron knows only criminals would have guns if law abiding citizens were stripped of their right. She should frequent more "gun free zones" without her armed security force. Crap like this makes me crazy.

I don't know how to start this. Very emotional topic but i feel that i can share it here among folks who would understand. A couple months ago, my great uncle (87) passed away after a battle with cancer. He was a U.S. Army veteran of the Korean War and distinguished himself with meritorious service with the 45th Infantry Division. He was awarded the bronze star along with other medals and was honorably discharged in 1956.   He was like a third grandfather. Due to geographical challenges, he was much closer to me than many other family members. He taught me how to shoot. My first round was fired on his farm in the hills of North East TN.   Before he passed, i expressed to my grandmother how much one particular gun in his collection meant to me. It was a 9mm. When i shot it around age 10, i had no idea of the significance. When my grandmother inquired about this gun on my behalf, she was told that it had been sold. Over the years, the gun in question served by my great uncles right hand. It was the gun found under the newspaper on the coffee table. He had many guns but this one was special to him. As i aged, he finally told me the story of the "9mm." This particular gun was brought back from Germany after WWII by a friend of his. It was a German P-38.    After he passed, i would have been pleased with the opportunity to purchase any of his guns from the family. Unfortunately, that opportunity never came. However, my grandmother called me tonight and everything changed. She told this story to another family member only to find out that he had purchased the gun from my great uncle. He graciously gave the firearm to her for me to pick up. For this i cannot thank him enough. It's not only a damn cool piece of history--it's a family heirloom that i will treasure as long as i live.   I don't think i can say anything to this individual to express how much i appreciate the generosity shown during a very tough time. I greatly miss my uncle and my friend but i this gesture will allow me to keep his memories close whenever i pick up this firearm.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh5UevdKIk4

This is a recent article written about Australia's point of view verses America comparing the two and Australia's saying their gun laws would never work in the United States for many reasons. It is a long article so read it when you have time. I read it all. The last few paragraphs are the most interesting about facts.   http://www.thefederalist.com/2015/06/25/the-australia-gun-control-fallacy/

Maybe Hillary should live by example and give up her lifetime provided by the US taxpayer Secret Service protection to encourage others to give up guns.  Until that happens, I wouldn't take her very seriously.  Hillary has a do as I say not as I do mentality. 

Black lives only matter when white people are involved. When black people kill black people, it is not news because it does not support the narrative. In fact, it's racist to even bring this up. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Again,    I no longer go where large numbers of people gather. I'm not getting wanded, or herded with the sheeple, nor will I be locked in a pin awaiting slaughter. 

I went to the Green Hills theater today to watch Sicario(which was awesome), and I saw staff wanding people looking for weapons before a special viewing. I was disturbed by this and spoke to a cop there. I asked him where the signage was banning weapons from the premises? I looked everywhere and not a one sign in sight. The manager said, "I think we have one somewhere...." Yeah, that wand is gonna do a lot of good when a psycho goes out the unguarded exit door in the theater and gets weapons. Rolling my eyes at that.. The cop didn't know dick about proper signs or anything like that. I don't think he fully understood anything. I'm preaching to the choir here, but I was annoyed by it all. Just had to get it off my chest.

Hall of Shame is pretty legit. ProfessionalSoldiers has the "Your Rucksack Is In The Hall" (not a good thing to hear btw) for people who fail to follow simple instructions/screw the system. And some honorable mentions of how to be a total moron like DamYankee or Gecko45. Its good comedy and serves as an example - and builds cohesion through adversity lol. Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

Your house, your rules, shame them. Might make a new member wait 30 or so days, have a number of posts before posting something for sale.

The greatest face I can think of for the responsible, law abiding, American gun owner. I wish there were more like him. He'd make a good NRA president.

A Federal gun ban would create a new group of criminals overnight. I can’t believe that could get passed through Congress. Of course Hillary would do it if she could; so would Obama. Neither of them gives a damn about the United States Constitution or an individual’s right to self-defense, and couldn’t care less if they violate it.

This is a Springfield 1863. I feel sure that it saw action in the civil war. Muzzle loaders were obsolete by the end of the war. Many were destroyed. Many were fitted with a trap door option. Many were taken by poor soldiers to hunt with, either as a rifle or shotgun conversion. The first pic shows the gun as a whole. The next one shows where the owner carved his initials in the gun, which I've seen in other period guns. The final one is the interesting one. There are three notches carved into the underside of the stock right in front of the butt plate. Of course, there is no way to say for sure what they represent, though it caught my attention and imagination.

How could you develop an opinion if you never shot one? Mini 30 over an SKS? That's just crazy talk.

Sitting on that stool, he's almost as tall as you are standing. To put it in perspective, he's 2" taller than Michael Jordan. :o:   I met him at an RK Show back when they still had them in Hendersonville...very nice guy. He's an asset to the shooting community.

Buds guns meet and greet. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Well, that's true, but it could be worse I guess

I hope she likes her coffee black too, because banning/confiscation will only accomplish one thing...

Hell yeah man, Id rather a jammed rifle than an IED lol

Go for it.  I know of other forums that do this, and they include banned members with the reason for banning them (including quotes).   :hiding:

I like it. I became a benefactor to join in on the buying and selling, and to support the site which I enjoy greatly.

I say go for it. Screw'em.

I am all for it.  Shame away.  The electronic version of putting the bounced checks on the wall behind the cashier.

Zeroed my scope today. Had some issues getting it sighted in, but finally figured out where I was going wrong. This was my group with a handload at 100 yds. Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

Tell them you are with TGO

I have wondered about that. And now knowing they are unscripted makes them even better with the quick wit and sarcasm.

I'll let them buy back my bullets first. One at a time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yeah he came up with that on the spot and it was hard not to laugh. We never script any of our videos.

That's really cool. You got some great stuff in that lot. Peep/aperture sights are really easy to use, easier than blade sights IMO. This is from the original WWII training films... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yj5KsXDflS4

"Diamond flute will win the war on terror," lololol

I wish I had enough great pistols to where I couldn't remember If I had a Browning Hi Power or not.

I'm assuming the OP hopes to put a deer down pretty quick and not have to chase him/her for hundreds of yards through the woods, it's hard to see a 9mm doing that. I always thought if SHTF and I was going to kill a deer on my property, which I see often, I want it to drop as quick as possible. If it doesn't it's on one of my neighbors property. I would probably use a 12 gauge slug from my 870, it would be a close,(30 yard) shot anyway, I should get a good hit.

Fun match today guys! I finally got to practice strong hand shooting. Too bad practice was on the clock. :)

True. I've been tempted by several items from them, but just haven't wanted to give the asking price.   And in spite of my handle, I'd buy a CZ75 before the SOG Hipower pricing. But I want a shooter, not a collector piece.

I ordered a Nano QX for $80 so I could learn to fly it before I bought a $500 quad and put my $400 GoPro on it… and crashed. But I can’t get the controller set-up right so I can even take off. So I’ll have to wait until I find a kid to set it up for me.

Back in the day, drones that people could buy were toys.  With today's digital cameras, they are a peeping tom's wet dream.  I got no problem with someone owning and flying one, but don't expect to fly one in my backyard or be peeking in my windows with one.  I'll warn you the first time and I'll take it out of the sky the next time, if your stupid enough to ignore me.

As of July 1st last year I believe there is no such thing as a blade restriction, of and kind, in TN any more. More experienced members will correct me if I'm wrong, I'm sure. :-)

10ga shotgun. What not to like!

I think I will be making this trip naked (gun less) unless there are a change of plans, I will have to go inside the beltway for sure and then go to Arlington. Plans can change and I do not want to be a news item or a topic of debate. Thanks for the replies.

I'm considering picking up a M&P 45C.  I was just looking for some input on what I should look for or avoid when it comes to early/late production and safety/no safety. Thanks in advance.

The whole episode I kept thinking they were luring them away to some awesome mass destruction. Then we find out they were just pointing them in another direction and releasing them. The first thing I thought was, well that's a pretty crappy thing to do to whatever band of survivors might be down the road. It would mean certain death for anyone in their path.   It was interesting too how in the trailers leading up to the episode, they made you think one thing, and the actual episode reveals something completely different. For instance the scene with Rick yelling "You think you can take this community away from me?" I thought was either Morgan, or one of the Wolves. Turns out it was much to do about nothing with the guy just talking tough.   I also thought the scene where they were building the walls along the road, and the walkers appeared was interesting. It showed the old locals how much they really need our rag-tag band. They were too scared to even shoot them, much less hand to hand combat. Not sure if Rick was holding back on taking action because he wanted them to learn, or at least try, or if he was wanting to make a point of what they were capable of.

Yeah..pretty soon they will be wanting to wand you at the grocery store, hardware store and the like. That's a load of crap and people better raise hell about it....well level headed people anyway.

Wait for it to come out at the Redbox and don't have to worry about being wanded.

I wouldn't, but it sounds like the OP did. Until they get hit in the wallet it's going to keep going on.

Why the hell would anyone put up up with this...?     leroy

I was planning on going to the Green Hills theater.  :down:  Oh well...

Either of these would be fun.

  That's what I was thinking. Keep enough in there to keep calling in more, but thin the herd from time to time to keep the risk down. They could come up with any number of ways of killing them other than fire bombing.