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Sounds like they just wanted a distraction to bounce out of there without paying.

My Occam's Razor theory is that the perps left the wedding reception headed home (or somewhere else). Brainard and DeLoach were crossing the street as the perps drove through and nearly hit them. Words were exchanged and the douche nozzles got out of their car to kick some ass. Simple case of alcohol + assholeitude. I'll be very surprised if there was some prior knowledge of one another. Male perp is an account manager at a cabling/wire company.

Went out this morning and seen 5 Hogs. Two of them went "Wee, Wee, Wee", all the way to the cooler. This little sow dressed at 150 pounds taken during a LEGAL hunt . Have a blessed day! Dave

http://photogrammar.yale.edu/map/     Zoom in to TN and go county by county.

What kind of pû22¥ is scared of an empty holster? How is America not home to the weakest people on earth? Jeez.

If I owned or managed that eatery I would have called the police and had the people that failed to pay for the food arrested. They were the only people that actually broke any laws...............jmho

  You think you'll be safer on the move, in a country of no law and dwindling resources?  No, I'll take my chances in a place defensible with resources.  I've carried heavy things long distances.  You simply can't carry enough to survive long, and if you think you're going to "hunt" your dinner when 350,000,000 are trying to do the same thing, you're in for an empty belly.  White tail deer would go extinct in less than a month.  Birds, squirrels, rabbits, dogs, cats.... they'd be gone soon after.    I know what it's like to be out in the wilderness and only be able to eat or drink what you can find.  It isn't easy.  It's harder in the winter.  I would reckon impossible when tens of millions of people are trying to do the same thing you are.

Well really wish I had known that earlier.

Fighting Sheep Dog is kicking off it's annual "Toys for Tots" drive and this year is gonna be epic! Forget the raffle for the custom-built 6.5 Grendel AR (1st prize) or the Silencerco SpecWar 762 (2nd prize). It's the day that we DRAW for these prizes and close the silent auction that'll be the most memorable for you! We're teaming up with Windrock Shooting Range and Mike Dresner of Law Enforcement Sales to bring you a day of FREE hamburgers and hotdogs, FREE access to shoot any of our firearms (suppressed, sbrs, 300blk, and more)... ...but that's not all! See, Dresner's bringing some full-auto goodies (SAWs, M60s, and more) and Windrock already has a full auto Glock and full auto AR available. And all you have to do is get the ammo from Windrock to play! Full details are available through us at Fighting Sheep Dog. Swing by and introduce yourself, grab some flyers to put up at work, and let's make this a fun time for both you, your family and friends, and the kids who'll receive a very special gift from you this year.

Like all TN "panther" threads anywhere on the web, enough folks have "seen" them, that they ought to be found dead on the roads like possums. :)           Since no melanistic cougar has never been documented in history, from Alaska to South America, I'd call that a rather weak supposition.  Some animals simply never manifest a certain trait, the DNA strand for whatever reason just rejects it if it exists at all. So far (edit: among the big cats, to be clear) only leopards and jaguars are known to have black representatives, and apparently did not occur based on a limited number of breeding pairs. Interestingly, black leopards and jaguars actually do retain their spots, they're just not visible except under close examination.   And by the way, just for sake of pedantry :), there is really no such thing as a "panther", it is a wide colloquialism based on the genus name "panthera". The  jaguar, lion, tiger, and leopard are in that genus, but the cougar is not. And indeed there may well be some genetic possibilities based on the genetics of that genera that others simply can't manifest, any more than one of us could pop out of the womb as Neanderthal though many of us have recessive genes for that species.   - OS

Well, that's absolutely true.  Gross played a role for money.  Penn is a douche bag with a capital D for a head.  

They guy with the holster might have been in cahoots with the theives.

No different than my shooting technique. If you set out enough clay targets on the berm and keep shooting amongst them, eventually you'll hit one.

Does not surprise me...they are more than welcome to move back to wherever they came from that doesn't allow guns.

Meh. It's a fun round. Screw logic and all that crap. What place does that have in a hobby? Haha! I just got into 10MM last fall and love it. If i used logic, I never would have gotten it. Harder to find, more expensive, all the things you just stated about 357 Sig. I love it anway. In fact, because of this thread, I'll probably be ordering 357 Sig conversion barrels for my 3 M&P 40s, a compact, full size, and Pro. I have 19 40 cal mags between them that will already work. $450 dollar's worth of barrels and I have 3 new 357 Sigs! I already have a 9mm barrel for the full size, and the swappability is just awesome. I let new shooters start off with the 9, and then go 40 when they're comfy. It'll be sweet to hop over to 357 Sig. Party on dudes!

Yall continue. It is a great conversation. A few corners need touching up, but at least the plow is in the garden. I'll jump in later today and tomorrow, as I got a few project deadlines before a long weekend (which is what happened yesterday also). But... this is a good place to discuss. A forum, albeit electronic, just like Mars Hill where Paul explained his seemingly ridiculous faith in terms that they, the debaters, could understand. We do the same here, on many hard topics. B.

Wells full of water. Renewable food in the form of a garden, game, hogs, chickens, goats and cattle. Draft animals to farm and for transport. Blacksmith shop for repair work and barter material. Heavily built log cabins miles away from population centers that would take one hell of a pounding. Resourceful family full of survivors at my back. I'll take my chances at the fort. I was born and raised on that land, just like my daddy and his daddy, and back past the civil war. Seems like just as good a place to die as any if it comes to that. Sent from behind the anvil

What time? I don't want to go to bed and miss it!   (So far, so good, btw)

This is one of the big reasons I look more at a home steadiness view than a bug out view. Learning and living a life style where these conditions can be dealt with a is a life.long experince. That's why I farm with horses, blacksmith with limited power tools, and listen when my old man teaches me how to build a log cabin, plant by the signs, read the weather, can vegetables, kill and cure meat and all the other skills lost over time. It can be done, but most people will be lost without their smartphone and a flushing toliet. Sent from behind the anvil

I'm sure it will perform great. It is a very nice looking weapon.

  maybe, if we can get the politicians to pay us $20 every time they open their trap or write something down.   They should have to get a license to talk/write, that's ok to do, right?

2 of my daughters work for a popular restaurant in Franklin and one comes in last night after work and tells me the following story.   A group of people having already ordered and halfway through their meal spots another customer nearby with wearing an empty holster. They proceed to pitch a fit and call management over to complain. He responds that it is perfectly legal and there is nothing he can do. They get up and leave without paying. I asked her if the restaurant is posted and she says no. They even went out and double checked for a gun buster and found none. I think if that was me I would have gone over and slapped them across the face with the empty holster so that they actually have a reason to be scared of a piece of leather. Well, not really. Hopefully I would have the piece of mind to try and set a good example as a CCW, but still what a bunch of idiots. Management should have called the cops for dine and dash.

Comm... We have a dillon 650 that i bought from an old buddy that wuz downsizin and tired of reloading... I like em, and their customer service is excellent...   The main problem with progressives is that ya need to settle on a recipe that ya are gonna use and load it... If ya do, ya can pile up bunches of ammo... If ya are a tinkerer and experimenter, ya just as well have a single stage...   That bein said, we have several "standard" loads that we load a minimum of about 500 rounds for on the dillon...  They are great for straight side pistol cartridges, but lots of folks load 223 on em too... I never have...   The most dangerous thing with a progressive is powder charging, so ya need to use a powder recipe that will allow you to spot an overcharge... We have double charged some cases; but i always select a recipe that will overflow the case if ya have a double charge... We also use a powder check die in the station to make sure as well... Lots of folks make them and they are a valuable tool...   The thing about the dillon is that you can set up your dies in a die head and just change them out when you change calibers...Another down side is if ya change bullet designs within a caliber, ya need to re-set the seating and crimping dies... That's why ya need to settle on the bullets and recipes that ya load... Initial set up is a pain with these things, so it's handy to be able to lock down the dies on the die head after ya get things the way ya want them and just change them out with the change in calibers...   Finally, the speed of a progressive is overhyped...Speedy reloading is dangerous reloading, i think... I've never loaded 500 rounds of anything in an hour... It's more like two hours...   Hope this gets ya ta thinkin a bit...  I'm sure others will chime in on this...   leroy

Ya know, when I got in the Class 3 game I kinda figured it was the good Lord's way of telling me that I needed to learn to be patient. It's like getting old and forgetting where you left your 3 finger pour of top shelf scotch just to wander in a room a few weeks later and find it like Christmas in October.

Anybody else having trouble with the link?   

  A computer can react much faster than you can.  By orders of magnitude.  As for trusting the programmer, you already do... your car would stop dead in the road if the geek behind its computer did his job wrong.    As for the guy in front of you, if his car is also automated, he can't really screw up anymore, can he (this is the #1 benefit to me...  an end to traffic incidents caused by idiots).     And on insurance, the idea is that *everyone* uses the automatic car which 1) allows cars to talk to each other (I am here, you are there!), 2) does not do stupid human stuff like changing lanes without signals or speeding or talking on its phone instead of driving or drinking and driving or thousands of other human screw ups  3) can use extra information (in a fully set up world, it could know when a light would change and compute the velocity required to make the light well in advance, avoiding stopping at lights more often and certainly avoiding the "stop or floor it" decision of a yellow light, etc.   They would also know if nearby emergency vehicles were coming and clear a path, for another example of extra data. Just to name a few of the things that are possible ... most of them are already possible. 

  Aw, that was probably just Elvis without a haircut since 1977.   - OS

Here I thought this was gonna be a thread about bran muffins.

Better than Sean Penn playing "The Gunmen" while simultaneously saying guns should be illegal and violence in the media is ruining this country. The hypocrisy of Hollywood...knows no bounds. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

Sometimes I think we are. Certainly not everyone, but we seem to have some really sorry folks running around amongst us.

I'll throw this in the mix. One thing I have toyed with for a few years is a .357 sig AR15. I've talked with Dolomite ad-nauseum and we both agree it would work quite well with sourcing a barrel being the only real barrier. The advent of Glock magazine lowers alleviates the stress of feeding. A 6.8 SPC carries the same head size so a gas operated, pistol length gas system AR is very doable. With a 16 inch barrel the Sig should pick up a few more feet per second and become exponentially more accurate. What a thumper that would be! Fed from Glock magazines to boot!

I hit the Reloader's Bench in Mt Juliet last Saturday. They had more powder on the shelf than I had seen in years. I grabbed some 800x and HS6, but no longshot to be had. Almsot grabbed Autocomp, but realized I got a can of that last time but hadn't cracked it open yet. Side note, prices were very reasonable again. I remember $30-35/lb a few years ago. Before all the madness most things were $18-21/lb, this weekend things were $21-25/lb. Fair enough for me. I have to clean out the garage this week... can't hardly get to the reloading bench, haha! That's the way it always works for me. I reload in the winter months and then shoot it all up over the summer. I'm coming towards the end of my blasting ammo stash, so it's time to get to work.

  So...not evening acknoledging the 3rd or 4th?   I liked the firepower and everything in the 3rd. The 4th was sort of interesting showing the history of the town.   In as simple words as possible, if this 5th one is any good, it'll meet my expecations and I'll be quite happy. Some things you just like because you like them, not because they are great.

But but but the media said I can buy a gun at a gun shop with out a background check...

I'll bet you most all of the people who vote "yes" on a poll like that have no clue what the current laws even are.

Feel free to jump in. As I've said a couple of times, this is not a good venue to discuss such things.   I think people who don't study the Bible for themselves think that after one accepts salvation a true Christian doesn't sin, and that's simply not true. It makes Christians look like hypocrites. Jesus said that if you look at a woman and lust for her then you've committed adultery already in your heart: therefore, if you think it then you've done it. This is why EVERYONE is sinful. That's what his message to the Pharisees, (who thought they don't sin), was all about. Accepting God's grace separates the physical from the spiritual; the sin from the sinner. License to sin? No! But Jesus' blood is the filter through which God looks at his children. I sin like everyone else does but I try to control it, and I don't believe God rejects me when I inevitably fail.    Matthew 5:28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.   Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Barry and Michelle - the dating years ?? :) :)

  In actual costs, once the state has a program and database set up, it's hard to imagine that it would cost the state $50 to check on little ol me every 4 years. There has to be a surplus, they didn't have to hire too many extra employees, the state already had them at the DOT. 

I am considering burying a septic tank and routing my gutter water runoff into it (only!). I figure this gives me 1000 or so gallons of storage in a concrete cistern, and i can put a riser on it so i can mount a pump into it (solar electric). I can use this for landscaping and garden purposes. Anyone ever heard of something like this?

Runco. ..lived here all my life and never heard that story...sad story...dawgdoc the one I saw was brown, forgot to mention that Sent from my SCH-I435 using Tapatalk

I appreciate all that feedback Leroy. That's exciting stats coming out of the 33 - as I am trading my 36 in for one to another gentleman. I do not mind giant fireballs and noise - I love that stuff. I do not expect it to be much worse than my Glock 29 or Desert Eagle. Or my wifes SBR before she put the "Pig" on it. Any specific "technique" to it? I was watching youtube and one guy said since the Glock barrel isnt a full support (?) Barrel that it bulges on the bottom toward the bottom - and he ran it through both the 40SW resizing die AND the 357 die Now since I will only own 357 Glocks (33, and maybe the 32) - would this step be necessary? I appreciate all the help and feedback on this so far. Definitely solidified my decision to get one. Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

Consider an M1A or perhaps an M1A Scout Squad.  I recently acquired one in Walnut and it's the bee's knees.  Haven't scoped it or reached out past 100 yards with irons yet but it is more than capable and I find myself questioning the need for any other rifles.   http://www.springfield-armory.com/products/m1a-scout-squad/

Just because you are a true believe doesn't mean that you want to die. God says to die is to gain: however, I still worry for my wife and family. I'm not afraid to die, but I do fear how I die. You can't reconcile forgiveness because you can't think as God does. That's a hard thing for people to grasp, and they complain that God doesn't do what we think God should do. Well, we aren't God.   Again, this isn't a good venue for this kind of conversation. This is best done face-to-face with someone who's well-grounded in the Bible; not religion. God isn't about a religion; he's about a relationship.

He talks a good talk, and is on our side when it's easy to do that, but when when push has come to shove in the past, he has sold the 2A supporters out to dry to business interests (ie. his money donors)

That's sweet! Takes a lot to make a G20 look small lol

The best flashlight to be had is the one what ain't got dead batteries in it when you actually NEED the dang thing.  

Complaining that Franklin Gun overcharges is like complaining about a politician telling a lie. You know'd that before you went in that place. Won't surprise me a bit one day when they start charging a cover charge to walk in the door.

I'll be the one. Whenever you have an Easter egg hunt for adults that ends up with Ar15s and calling 911 for Deputy assistance, you have a stupid game. Sorry, my opinion only.

I don't think the "Tremor" that the OP was talking about was an earthquake:) http://amzn.to/1P3rnAM Please, for either $6.96 for DVD or $19.65 for Blu-Ray for ALL FOUR MOVIES, everyone buy those if you haven't already seen them. They are hilariously corny, but genuinely good movies. Plus they have one of the greatest characters of all time, Burt Gummer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcsLaSBWG9k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ew_jfj9798