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The truth is still working its way out. The headcount is still going up. The investigation Is still going on and is getting worse. Honestly I am glad I am gone. Obviously it will be a lot worse off a place to work when this is done. I had my first interview this morning. Less than twenty four hours after being fired. They made me a very nice offer. I already took their drug test, though I haven't accepted their offer. I told them my family is first. They want to meet my family, as they liked my honesty and candor in regards to my priorities. At the very least, I feel a thousand times better. I have also received head hunting calls from our biggest competitor. The rumor got back to me a minute ago that I had accepted that position. I liked that call, the fear in my former managers voice. I am good. Sent from my LGLS740 using Tapatalk

  Involuntarily squirt something from the lower part of their body.

Let's go to a job interview.   I got an email about a dispatching position at 7am this morning.

Maybe we can get the Government to set up a group of "out of work hamburger flippers" as security for the theaters. We can call it TSA (Theater Security Administration). Oh never mind, they used them all up at the airports. :rolleyes:

Pfffft. Amateurs.

Facts of life: A body in motion tends to stay in motion, a body at rest tends to stay at rest, and all good jobs eventually turn to crap. - Me

I spent last week in the mountains of Ellijay Georgia at the Rogers Shooting School (http://www.rogersshootingschool.com/). For those not familiar with the school it is owned and run by Bill Rogers, former FBI agent, inventor ( Safariland  duty holster ALS and SLS and GLS locks, Wilson/Rogers 1911 mags, Rogers Super Stock, etc) and world class shooter who won a metric ton of matches in the 80s and 90s and beyond. In fact I was recently flipping through an old issue of Soldier of Fortune from 1986 looking at an article about the SOF 3 Gun Match and lo and behold but who was 2nd over all? Bill Rogers....yep...that Bill Rogers.    The class normally runs a week starting on Sunday evening and finishing up on Friday afternoon. The class normally runs $1200 for the week and 2500 rounds of ammo. This is quite an investment in time , money , and ammo for most people. But the deal of the century might be the way I did it . I took it as  the 3 day Rogers Reactive Steel Course offered through my friend Ronnie Dodd's company Dodd and Associates (http://www.doddtraining.com/). This class runs Wednesday night through Saturday afternoon . Ronnie is also the chief instructor at Rogers and that is how he is able to offer the 3 day class using the Rogers facilities and the Rogers assistant instructors. During the class I stayed in the Rogers Lodge ( $75 for the class) and Bill Rogers himself made an appearance at the class so it was pretty much as close to the 5 day class experience as the 3 day class could be. Of course there is no free lunch, (well....actually lunch is included in the class) and you cannot fit 5 days into 3 so you will get 4 runs on the test instead of the normal 6 and you will only shoot 1500 rounds for the class instead of the normal 2500 and no Thursday night low light shoot like in the 5 day class.    At Rogers they teach what they call Reactive Shooting. That is shooting within human reaction time. It takes someone .25 of a second to observe and a .25 to respond if there is no other decision making involved. So a simple "see it , point the gun at it and shoot it" would be a half second. The target system used at the school consists of 8" plates that appear and disappear in very short time increments. They range in distance from 7 yards to 9 yards to 10 yards to 15 to 19 yards. One of the first drills we shoot is a shot in one half second at a 7 yard target. We then shoot 2 targets in 1 second, and then 3 targets in 1.5 seconds. The drills don't get any easier either. The practice is all geared toward the test which you shoot each day to determine your score and class ranking.     Each person shoots about 500 rounds per day. This can seem daunting to some , especially guys shooting heavier caliber guns. Guys who show up with .45s often switch to 9mm in short order. One gentleman in our class shot his 1911 .45 on day one and promptly switched to his 9mm 1911 for the rest of the class. Of course some Mil and LE units that come to class with bigger caliber duty weapons (think SEALs, Delta, Marine Recon and FBI HRT, etc). You see Rogers is not the typical "Firearm safety class" it is a doctorate level test of marksmanship. You either sink or swim . You either acclimate to the speed of the targets and force yourself to see the sights and make the hits or you miss a lot and watch plates disappear. The targets do not care that you are shooting with 2 hands or with one or with your strong or your weak hand. The time frames are all the same. After all, the bad guys won't take it easy on you if you are injured and having to shoot with one hand......   There is not much downtime in the class. You are either loading magazines, shooting drills, hydrating, watching the instructors demonstrate drills, or eating lunch. Even during lunch the target system runs so that if you choose to you can hurry up and eat lunch and then get some dry practice in. And every little bit helps while preparing for the test. The instructors are there always offering constructive suggestions, and offering encouragement. And as opposed to some other schools, all the instructors can shoot at a high level. They have to in order to demonstrate the drills.    At the end of each day you shoot the test. It is an 9 stage 125 round course of fire. The first stage is 3 rounds on 3 different targets from the extended low ready position in 1.5 seconds. The 2nd is from the ready engaging 4 plates in near to far order in 2 seconds. And it just gets more difficult from there.  Number 8 can cause nightmares as it is 23 plates in 3 waves all shot weak handed with 2 weak hand only reloads thrown in....all in 23 seconds. Not exactly for the faint of heart. There is a reason that not many people clean the test. In fact only 4 people have ever shot the test with a perfect 125. Bill Rogers, Rob Leatham, Manny Bragg and Gabe White have shot a perfect 125. As mentioned earlier your scores count toward what  certificate you graduate with. Score less than 70 on the test and you do not pass.  Pass the test with 70 points and you get a Basic Certificate. Pass with a 90 and you get an Intermediate certificate. Pass with 110 or more and you graduate Advanced. They say less than 5% pass at the Advanced level and only those 4 guys have ever cleaned it.    Some of my peers in the shooting and training industry who have already been had been waiting for a long time for me to finally make the pilgrimage to Rogers. Unfortunately  classes at Rogers usually fill up and they are not always offered when I am free. I stay busy between my day job, teaching and match shooting. So when the opportunity  hit to do the  the 3 day class in between teaching my own classes and shooting matches I was glad to finally get to attend this class. As to my performance? Well I didn't do as well as I would have liked, but then again, only 4 guys ever have. I ended up graduating Advanced with a 115 score and the coveted red pin for the Top Shooter in the class.    If you get the chance to go to the full 5 day class that would be great, but if time, and money are an issue then take a serious look at the three day class run through Dodd and Associates. You'll be glad you did. 

I can guarantee anyone set on doing harm to others will just shoot the bag checker in the face before submitting to a bag search. All this created is a super safe place for criminals to commit crimes against others.   I really, really wish one of many victims who were hurt at these gun free zones would sue the property owner. Even if they don't win the cost would eventually eat away at the gun buster signs on the doors.     http://wate.com/2015/08/19/regal-movie-theaters-begin-bag-search-policy/     Some on the Regal Columbus Stadium 12 Facebook page claim the new policy is turning them away. One comment called the policy unjust and unfriendly to law-abiding citizens. “Will not, under any circumstances, return to a Regal theater since you instituted the bag search policy,” one person wrote.   Another poster said, “Do you guys want to go out of business? Hassling women to check their purses?”   “I understand that, but I think it would be nice if people didn’t have guns in the movie theaters,” Jay Weinisch said. “I don’t think it’s that much to ask.”   On it’s website, Regal Entertainment Group acknowledges that the policy could be an inconvenience, but says they hope it is a minor issue compared to increased safety. “I think that anything that will protect the citizens, people should have the patience to go through that,” Shirley Wilkie said.  

While they should have been nicer, I don't really think any of it was their fault either though. I do agree that it never helps to blame the customer. At least you got what you ordered.

Phone bank type tech support has always been the bottom of the barrel regarding this sort of thing.   Did about 9 months of it myself once.   - OS

Hey man, just start looking.  Benefits were good at my last place, but I was literally stuck with zero promotion opportunity for a minimum of 5 more years (after I had already been there for 4).  Spent almost a year straight of searching every single day, but refused to give up & finally had the opportunity to transfer.  Same pay, same type of work, same benefits, but there's a ton of promotion potential after I learn the new systems.   Just start looking, because the one day you aren't, is the day the opportunity to move on passes you up.  I'd rather be told no and I don't qualify 100 times for a promotion/new position than sit around and wonder what would have happened if I tried.   If you think you can do better, then get your stuff together and start working on it and leave that negativity & stress behind you.

Other than the guy with the Airsoft gun, I think all the theatre shootings have been either at night or during a first weekend showing when the theatre is packed with people.   I wait until the movie has been out a couple of weeks and then attend a matinee. We arrive early and I check out the people as they come in. Usually, there's less than a half dozen people in the theatre. We only go maybe once a year, so I think the greater risk is walking to/from the car after the movie.

I think its been over 5 years if not longer for me. Its sad that people have to be afraid to go and enjoy the theater.but last time we went..everyone had a cell phone out.. the screens where annoying, to much talking on them and texting..I just rather sit in bed with Dolomite, havea bowl of snacks and watch it on my 60 inch TV.Plus the older I get,I get irritiated with things easier, I cant stand crowds( usualy some idiot in it)..waiting lines and and people standing to close to me..

I always get an isle seat.  Not because I am worried about a shooting, but because I inevitably have to pee.

Honestly, I thought most people carry in a holster.  If they were to check my backpack, they may find a laptop or a phone, certainly both potentially dangerous in the wrong hands, but they'd miss my gun completely.  Not that it impacts me at all.  Hollywood hasn't made a movie in years that I've been willing to pay to see.

  Be sure to pour a Coke on your floor the day before so it's nice and sticky, plus you have to leave the movie running when you get up to pee. No pausing allowed. When you get back, you have to interrupt anyone else in the room by saying "what did I miss?" That gives you the full movie theater experience at home. It helps if you empty an entire 12 pack of Coke into a plastic bucket and drink it all during the previews.

This nothing to do with safety and everything to do with preventing people from sneaking in snacks.  It's all about the money.

And if they see a gun in a bag what exactly are they supposed to do...?

Does sound like specialised work. Would love to be a fly on the wall when upper management enquires of HR where and how they intend to restaff what sounds like an entire department on short notice.

i am going to the front lines with a boat load of ammo. 

The question I would have is whether management knew of any of the other sales as a part of their investigation where the person was not fired today as a result. Consistency matters in Human Resources - especially when it comes to terminations. If it turns out they were selective, I might be inclined to discuss it with counsel.

I don't think his employer requires them to pack revolvers. He has been with them over a year now and packed the M9 the entire time. I just think his friend is kinda on the dumb side of guns because he also works there and packs a revolver while on duty. 

Some of us try. The laws are still there, but we are pretty well left alone. We raise our own food, build our own homes, farm our own land, make our own tools etc. Legally we aren't anymore free than any of the other subjects, but it sure helps to be able to say we could live without the goverment or any outside help. Which brings up another point. I, and I'm sure others here, have family roots running into this land more than a century old. My family first built on the land we own in the early 1860's. My entire family has been born and raised there and most have died there. I'd rather die and be buried in the hills where I was raised than be the first generation of my family to turn tail and run. Sent from the backwoods

Source: http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2015/7/17/ruger-precision-rifle/ "The Precision Rifle’s upper receiver and one-piece bolt body are CNC-machined from pre-hardened 4140 chrome/molybdenum alloy steel. The lower receiver is machined in two pieces, right and left halves, from 7075-T6 hard-coat anodized aluminum. That method simplifies manufacture, allows more precise control of machining in the magazine well and makes assembly of small components easier as they can be placed in position in one half before the other half is attached. Offered at this time in three short-action chamberings, the rifle is available in .308. Win. with a 20" barrel, 6.5 mm Creedmoor with a 24" barrel and .243 Win. with a 26" barrel. The weights vary by chambering, but with the lightest model starting at 9.7 lbs. sans optic, the Precision Rifle is not a light firearm. The evaluation gun provided by Ruger was chambered in 6.5 mm Creedmoor and—after being furnished with a scope, bipod and stock-mounted monopod—tipped the scales at just over 15 lbs." Click the link at the top (or below) for more on it from the NRA. Looks like a pretty neat way to get into precision shooting for those who don't want to or couldn't bare to spend big bucks on a custom rig. http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2015/7/17/ruger-precision-rifle/

I just finished up my AR9 pistol and am extremely happy with the way it turned out. It came in under $675. Sent from my BLU STUDIO 5.0 C HD using Tapatalk

Here's a biggun' headed to a TGO member via the leather sheath maker.

OK to go looking, but just remember the title of a book Irma Bombeck wrote back in the '70's - "The Grass Is Always Greener Above The Septic Tank."

Murg,   I work in the supply chain and just moved back to Knoxville. If you want to move home let me know. My work is currently looking for a plant manager and I'm the assistant manager.

There is constant debate on what a "Ranger" actually entails.  Even the U.S. Army Ranger Associations definition which includes those who only earn a tab is disputed by those who think the association is just a good ole' boys club for retired officers and should be limited to those who served in Ranger units.   As has been said here, Ranger school is just a school. Way back when, the Army realized that garrison training just wasn't good enough at producing small unit leaders for combat, so the school was created as a way of doing that in between wars.  It's meant to push people way past their comfort zone, and show them what they can do under multiple forms of stress and external factors.  It also shows you how leadership works when everybody is miserable, tired, hungry, sore, and isn't inclined to do something just because the platoon leader says to do it.    Ranger school isn't officially required for infantry officers, but if you're an infantry officer and you show up to a light infantry unit (10th Mountain, 82nd & 101st Airborne) without a tab, good luck getting a platoon leader slot.  As a contractor, I worked with a former infantry officer who was dropped on request from Ranger School because the cadre basically told him he would never graduate with them there since he didn't want to play the mind games.  He was on battalion staff until a tasking came up to augment the Artillery battalion with an ad hoc infantry platoon for a deployment to Iraq.  That was when he finally got a PL slot.    I've always thought that Ranger School meant more to the officers than the enlisted.  Interestingly enough, with Iraq and Afghanistan in full swing, officers still had Ranger School in their training pipeline before getting to a unit, but for NCO's in line units who only go later in their careers, it wasn't really feasible with deployments so close together.  The time to train up, go to the school, and then recover after would have deprived units of combat experienced team and squad leaders, so the emphasis to send NCO's was all but gone when time home from a deployment was only 12-15 months.  There will be a lot of NCO's at the Platoon Sergeant and First Sergeant level without Ranger Tabs, but 4-5 combat deployments for a bit.  Back when I first reported to Fort Campbell in March 2001, it was rare to see an Infantry Company First Sergeant without a tab.  Different, but not necessarily bad.   The 75th Ranger Regiment is a entirely different story.  These are the guys who have been deployed on and off for near 14 years, and were hitting multiple targets every night in Iraq and Afghanistan (still are there probably).   The Regiment was taking women on missions to deal with Afghan females due to cultural issues, but that's about as far as it ever should go.  Their place in the military is to be a wrecking ball when called upon, and the mission set, training and operations tempo, as well as the lifestyle reflect that.  A Ranger Battalion is no place for a woman unless we're talking Ronda Rousey levels of fitness, and even in the hypothetical fantasy world where a woman could meet the physical standards without any gender curving, then we'll have the same problems with fraternization that come with male/female units.  For guys from Regiment, Ranger School is a block to check so they can take a leadership position.  Ranger units can send troops as low as Private First Class, and Ranger students coming from Ranger units have a much higher graduation rate than others.   As to these women, they got in from a special selection process to find the best candidates for a trial program, and only two of them made it this far out of I think 25 or 26.  I'm not sure if they made it through a pre-Ranger course like they used to run at Fort Campbell or any other base before they went, but regardless, this was a very specific sample set.  Good on them for sticking it out, it speaks well to their character, but the breaking of the gender wall this isn't.

I've done that Bersa.  It's amazing.  A while back I was waiting on the woman to do her walmart shopping, I sat in the car like i normally do, and I counted the number of people with pisspoor decision making as it pertains to footwear.  Should a zombie virus outbreak, I fully believe a slow moving walker could eat lots of people, even as silly as it seems to us.  People just go about their day in sandals and flip flops and what the heck ever that crap is woman call footwear.  It kinda gave me a little reassurance should anything bad ever happen, I don't have to outrun the threat, only the morons in poor shoes.         We have yet to bear witness to a killer with any sense. It will happen though, mark my words.  A person with skill will take up the sword against the innocent one day and it will be a blood bath like you never seen.  Contrary to what many sheep wanna believe, intelligence and common sense can easily coincide with bat :poop:  crazy.  Given the right venue and a even a modicum of planning, a person bent on dealing death should easily be able to get a triple digit body count in the 10+ minutes it takes for first responders to arrive.     Mark my words, one day you'll see someone with a brain [albeit severely dysfunctional] lobing homemade frag grenades into general admission seating at something like a Taylor Swift concert or something and it'll take several trucks to remove the bodies.  

About cell phones.........LOL. I did take a few hours one day and sat in parking lot of neighborhood Walmart just to watch folks go in and out. It is no wonder why people get robbed and assaulted in parking lots such as Walmarts. About 90% of the folks going in and out had their faces stuck in a cell phone texting or reading and had zero clues what was going on around them. They make great targets out of themselves. I had to go to Opry Mills about a month ago to get something at the Mall. People are like Zombies walking around in the mall with their faces in their cell phones and actually bumping into each other and they would look up like hey watch were your going and then stick their nose back in the phone when it was their fault for bumping into the other person in the first place. What in the hell can be that important that people are so addicted to their Cell phones. My Daughter and Son in law come and visit and they have those hand free systems around their necks so they can answer the phone the second it rings. I told both of them to turn off their cell phones before coming into my house and let their voice mail get the calls or don't stop by. I cannot visit with cell phones ringing all the time. They didn't like it but they did it...................... :up: :up:

Ok, just deleted a whole bunch of text that I was writing to just add this link: http://www.chuckhawks.com/adjust_reloading_dies.htm It better explains the die sets and what each die does. 

To the person  who said Germany.. not sure when you went there last.. btu its not any better than here.. trust me:)       Even tho I am not a US citizen..i wouldnt want to go anywhere else.. I would take up arms in a heartbeat for the USA..I have been  treated nice here( 99% of the time) I worked , i payed taxes, I dont  want for anything and we are lucky to be able ot do what we want ,when we want it,..   I might noty agree with the current political issues or some laws but that is anywhere in any country.

Yes, it's MUCH faster than here.

  FTFY.

  You also forgot about going out and buying popcorn equal to your hourly pay, putting it in as big a bucket you can find, and then drenching it in about 1-2 cups worth of fake butter. Then you get to drop about 1/3 of all of it on the floor.

  ...and ruined the fast food industry in the process.

It needs a suppressor and it'll be fine. Lol!!

maybe this is the one i Saw before...not 12, but 410... http://heizerdefense.com/category/products/guns/ps1-guns/

I like twitter for breaking news.

Scores posted:  https://practiscore.com/results.php?uuid=945277DB-27CE-4AD5-BDC9-B8CA4D1F9116&page=matchCombined

Look for 45 LC cowboy loads. They are on the low end as far as power goes and make decent target loads.

  I'll row.

Also (& please don't take offence at this) you have to consider the simple fact that not many countries want Americans to move there. Emigrating to another country from the US without SIGNIFICANT financial investment or marriage to a resident citizen is really, really difficult.

My pleasure. I know how hard these were to find lately. Maybe that's changing. They still show stock as of 7:30pm.

If you want an AR, I've put together some pretty good stuff cheaply by watching daily sales at palmetto state armory.   Anderson Arms also sells AR parts as well as complete rifles at very competitive prices. I've had no problems with their stuff either.   If you'd prefer an AK, I second Dolo's suggestion of a WASR. I've read a lot of bad reviews on the net regarding them, but my experience with them has been stellar.   Furthermore, I've found the SKS to be a pretty much trouble free, foolproof design that can still be had a reasonable prices.

I am going thru manopause!    :rofl:

 Here are some tidbits I learned during my career. I think you can find an application to this stop for most of them,  but not for #6 in this particular case.   (1) Nothing about police work is easy or simple.   (2) If you lose psychological control of a situation you will probably die for it.   (3) .The officer must survive. When one's rights run counter to his survival, that person's rights (temporarily) lose. For the most part the courts agree.    (4) If you don't see the other guy's gun until it is coming out of his holster, you're a dead man.   (5)  'Tis far better to apologize for scaring hell out of a citizen than to foolishly avoid scaring hell out of him at the cost of your life.   (6) Never eat barbeque in a tan uniform. :pleased:

Where's gecko45 when you need him. He knew how to deal with these situations.