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I think they just put a target on all of their drivers.

So they think they can prevent their drivers from carrying a gun in their personally owned vehicles?    That's cute.

So now if I'm a carjacker, I can use a throwaway phone on starbucks's wifi and order an unarmed car to jack and they will come to me?   Genius!

  Uber-idiocy.   Maybe i'm getting mean and spitefull in my old age but i'm getting really really sick and tired of all these pretentious, sanctimonious, self-rightous, narcissistic, socialist, freedom hating, Constitution destroying, progressive liberal commies, (did I leave anything out?), trying to force their idiotic, illogical, fantacy utopian philosophy down our throats every minute of every day but I would love to see this Uber company go bankrupt some day. I will laugh that day, they deserve it.

Meh... we've been trolled by better.  This guy's outta here.

  .... San Francisco-based Uber......  :screwy:

Let me get this straight. A driver for they're company who is legally carrying a firearm saves a bunch of people from a nut bag trying to kill people and this is the response. Genius!

A guy goes to the supermarket and notices a very attractive woman waving at him.             She says, 'Hello.'             He's rather taken aback because he can't place where he knows her from. So he asks, 'Do you know me?'             To which she replies, 'I think you're the father of one of my kids.'             Now his mind travels back to the only time he has ever been unfaithful to his wife.             So he asks, 'Are you the stripper from the bachelor party that I made love to on the pool table, with all my buddies watching, while your partner whipped my butt with wet celery?'             She looks into his eyes and says calmly, 'No, I'm your son's teacher.'

It's a shame really. His premise wasn't incorrect, he just couldn't discuss it like a reasonable person.

Since there are some law enforcement folks here and others with great opinions, I have a question about should I have or should I have let it go type question.   Yesterday afternoon while traveling on the interstate humming alone at around 70 mph on a 3 lane portion, traffic is heavy, the vehicle in front of me suddenly without warning made evasive lane changes due to large bundles of rolled insulation that had just fallen off a truck in front of her.  The evasive lane change was too much and she lost control, swerved far right, far left, and then over corrected and went head on into the guardrail on the right.  I ended up hitting the bundle of insulation on the interstate, no damage, but the other car that wrecked had a mother and two daughters (maybe 11 yrs and maybe 6 yrs old, not sure).  As it turns out, they were okay, maybe shaken up pretty good.  The car was destroyed, heavy front end damage.  The impact caused the car to come to a rest in the middle lane.  The truck that dropped the insulation never stopped.   Here is the question, I witnessed in the rear view mirror as I was coming to stop to aide and assist, the 11 yr old girl suddenly dart from the car and run to the guardrail upon immediate coming to a stop of the wrecked car, I thought I saw her throw something over the guard rail.  I am not sure the car had even come to a complete stop either.  Was this worth mentioning to the arriving officer and does it matter?   As we waited on the officer, I checked on my family who was in our car just 50 feet or more from the wreck.  My wife asked me did that girl throw something, she had seen it too.  I went back to look, but did not see anything other than common trash along the area where I thought I saw her throw something.  When the officer arrived, which seemed like only a just a few minutes, he of course asked if they were hurt, and then he came to me see what I had seen.  As I explained how the wreck occurred, he took my name and number, and he said that I was free to go, but I did mention to him seperately after he said that I was free to go what I witnessed about the girl darting from the car.  He said, it was weird wasn't it.  I say yea it was weird, and told me again I was free to go.  Not sure if that mattered to the officer, the incident, or that was enough info for him to act.  I will probably never know what happened, doesn't matter, but why did the girl dart. 

He'll be the token "conservative" at MSNBC. :doh:

They claim their drivers are not employees, but contractors.   Don't think you can tell a contractor what he/she can legally carry.

I'm not a LEO, but you did tell the officer about what you saw and to me your responsibility ends there. Based on your description of the wreck, I'm guessing it wasn't a contributing factor in the wreck.

Finally had the chance to watch it...meh.  I didn't feel it was a waste of time, but I thought it was only an okay as a movie.   The performances from Bradley Cooper and Sienna Miller (a very underrated actress) were top notch.  The strain on their relationship caused by deployments and not enough time between them was well acted, though I think could have been given more time as it is a big theme as you read the book, especially the parts by Taya written from her view.   The action scenes were about what I expected, complete with the Hollywood embellishments: the huge flame with each shot from a suppressed M4, creating Mustafa as his nemesis through out the movie, the final battle in Sadr City ending in a sandstorm haze...all made the movie a letdown after reading the book.

Thanks for posting this. Some people seem giddy at the prospect of a race war, but from the time that I heard about this incident all that I've heard from those with skin in the game has been request for peace and prayers along with pleasant memories of the loved ones that they lost.

I agree. I think This guy is missing a tooth

Chupacabra baby tooth.  

Here's one of my favorite SR-71 stories from Brian Shul: http://oppositelock.kinja.com/favorite-sr-71-story-1079127041

Wife had hers out at the end of 2011. She stayed over night then the next night went back in because she couldn't keep food down. Turns out they gave her way to much anstesia and it made her sick. We were at the naval hospital on Camp Pendleton. They kept checking her incision sites for infection, and finally she asked for food. They refused to feed her for almost 3 days, told her she couldn't a shower, and then when she started crying they tried to force some nerve pills down her throat. I damn near went to the brig that day. The doctor told me he could have me removed and make her take the xanax, I told him, an O4 officer in the Navy, that I'd beat him to death if he tried to force her to take anything. We had already had a confrontation the first night as they tried to make me leave and I told them to shove it. Needless to say I ended up standing tall in front of my CO over my wife's gallbladder lol. He asked if I was serious when I threatened a senior officer, and I looked him in the eye and told him I'd kill any man who hurt my wife or forced her to do something against her will. He said I was a good husband and that was the end of it. Sent from the backwoods

No clue. But if that's a snake fang...I'd be moving from that area.

Lighten up on the guy. He hasn't been around long enough to know that this group protects its own like no other group on the Internet. Ask me how I know. :) I believe that I'm the longest tenured liberal communist on the site. Mikegideon, 6.8AR (miss him, smart guy) and a few others would routinely take me to the octagon whenever they felt that I had gotten the wrong impression about a member or took their comments out of context. I've since learned that mikegideon can find humor in almost any situation, but he will always give reliable advice when it comes to guns. I think he once told me something to the effect of "I look after my friends". That statement changed my entire opinion of the forum and how I interacted with other members. In time the op will have met a few members, shot a few thousand rounds, conducted a few transactions, had a beer/coffee while chatting and getting to know that TGO is a band of brothers who scrap a little amongst ourselves, but will destroy anyone from the outside who threatens a brother or the integrity of this forum. I hope that he sticks around because a few more spices will enhance the flavor of the stew. If we all always agreed on everything we would have nothing more than a big circle jerk, and we are better than that.

Long ago and far away I had just retired from my career and had taken up a new career as a training contractor providing basic defensive pistol training to County Probation Departments around the state. I was teaching a 40 hour course that required three range days and 1,218 rounds of ammunition per trainee, and I was of necessity using local ranges. One of the first hard lessons I learned in my new job was never to trust that the host range would have as many target stands as I had trainees. In fact, on my very first job I made a scouting trip of a couple of hundred miles to check out the host range and discovered that it was lacking six target positions for my upcoming classes. Returning home and stopping at the local lumber yard, I bought enough lumber to produce six of the best portable target stands I have ever used in this life. I honestly don't know where I got the design, but had been using it for my own needs for some years at that time, and had found it to be easy to make, inexpensive, and extremely durable. In fact, in the next few weeks each of my new target stands had a total of 3,652 rounds of pistol ammunition fired through them, and although they had taken some hits, each and every one of them was serviceable and safe to use. They stubbornly resisted every effort my trainees made to blow them apart. But first, here is the target stand I am referring to. The stand consists of a base and a target frame. The target frame is simply inserted into a slightly undersized slot built into the base and is held there by friction alone. On the ones I have built, I have generally made the span of the vertical 2x2's a half inch wider than the slot in the base. To put them together, you get one leg started into the slot, then push in on the other leg with your foot until it goes in. Then you push down on the entire frame and it stays put. It looks like this when finished and assembled. All you need is two 2x4x8's and three 2x2x8's. Pick through the 2x4's and do your best to find the driest and therefore the lightest ones in the pile. Light weight is very important because you have to carry this stand downrange to the distance you want to shoot. Try to find straight 2x2's, straight ones being as rare as hens' teeth, but give it your best shot. Here are all the parts of both the base and the stand laid out so you can see how they go together. This is a basic project that requires few carpentry skills, any kind of a good saw, a power drill with a few bits, especially a screwdriver bit, and 32 screws of any kind you happen to have laying around, including rusty, reclaimed ones. They can be wood screws, sheet metal screws, drywall screws, or deck screws. As long as they have a good screwdriver slot, you're in business. As for a saw, I have built these stands with table saws, radial arm saws, chop saws, circular saws, and even small hand saws used with a cheapo three dollar miter box. I built this particular stand with my power miter saw, but you certainly don't need anything that sophisticated for this project. The joints are all butted together and no routing or dado heads are needed at all. (Note: You can make these stands with nails but I don't recommend it as the stand will loosen up pretty quickly. Use screws if you can. ) The dimensions of this stand are entirely optional. Usually you will find yourself limited by the size of the storage area you have for it, and by the room available in your vehicle. I've pretty well standardized on these dimensions: BASE – 2x4 feet, 3'. 2x4 cross boards, 2'. TARGET FRAME – Height, 6'. Outside width of upright 2x2's, 24 ½". Vertical distance at the outside of the horizontal 2x2's, 4'. Here are a couple of photos showing things to consider when deciding on the dimensions you want to use. I keep my stand stored between a fridge and freezer in the garage, and don't care to exceed 24 inches in width lest it become a snag. Also, this kind of lumber is fragile and won't tolerate being stored outdoors for very long at all. So keep it indoors if at all possible. This is how it breaks down and fits into a Dodge Ram short-bed half ton pickup. I use my frame mainly for pistol work out to 25 yards and rifle work out to 50 yards, although I have used it much farther out than that. That being said, here's an idea you might consider. If you are going to place your stand out at extended ranges, I suggest you spike it down as shown in this photograph. Although it's rare, I have seen these stands blow over when a strong gust of wind hits them, and that's a real bummer when you've just gotten back to the firing line after walking the stand out to the 200 yard line. The ten inch spikes shown in the photograph cost 55 cents each at Lowe's. The twelve inchers are only 65 cents. And now here are some photos of the basic joinery involved , along with a few explanatory comments and hints for building the stand. I use two 2 ½" screws in each butt joint in the target frame and always pre-drill the holes. I advise against trying to countersink the head by running the screw in at a high speed – 2x2's will split every time when you do this. It's OK to run the screw in fast, just slow it down before the head meets wood. If you find your screws are a bit short, it doesn't hurt a thing to countersink the head as much as ¾" in order to get the needed thread depth into the horizontal 2x2. All of the corner braces in both the base and the target frame are 6" in length on the long side, cut to 45 degrees, and are held in place with two drywall screws. In this case I had some 1 5/8 inchers that worked great. In the base I used two 3 ½" deck screws to make the joints, then reinforced them with corner braces like the ones shown in this photo. Note the precision with which I located the deck screws, heh. One need not necessarily use 2x2's for the corner braces. I used them as a matter of convenience since I had plenty of lumber. But you can use triangles cut from old flooring like the middle piece in the photograph, or from a scrap piece of 1x4 board like the top piece and then screw them down flat on the back of the frame and the top of the base. The screws shown are typical of the ones I used in this project. You might be wondering if the corner braces are really needed. Well, yes and no. I have made these stands without corner braces and they did fine for a while. Then they started getting wobbly and had to have all the screws driven in farther, which is a pain. Also, I've found that the corner braces really help hold the unit together when one of the longer pieces of 2x2 takes a bullet hit. I've never seen one of these stands get shot up so badly the shooter couldn't finish his day, and the corner braces help make that a reality. This photo illustrates just how the target frame and base go together. When you make the base, it's best to install one crossboard completely, then establish the correct size of the slot by placing a loose piece of 2x2 between the fixed board and the second one you are about to install. I even C clamp these together to make sure I get the snudge fit I'm looking for. This gives a different view of how the entire unit goes together when it's finished. So gents, if you are growing tired of swiping your neighbors' "For Sale By Owner" signs, or even the little front yard political ad signs to use for target stands, this offers a real chance to have a sturdy, cheap, easy to build and repair, inexpensive alternative you might want to consider. It offers some real room for alterations to fit ones situation as well. And again, these are entirely suitable for conducting firing classes on the range. Best wishes and thanks for listening. EssOne

Joe Armstrong, my long time commie anti-gun state rep gets indicted on federal charges, good for him:   http://www.knoxnews.com/news/state/state-rep-joe-armstrong-indicted   - OS

  Ever since FedEx started Ground in one fell swoop by buying out RPS and re-branding it, they just pay a few million a year in settlements and or tax penalties around the country, and change the operating structure and agreement state by state to get out from under whatever suits that were filed against them determining that the "contractors" were de facto "employees" . Which includes yearly tweaking of the contractor contract. You either sign it and keep operating, or quit and sue, and of course you'll never recover.   In TN, this has lead to contractors being unable to have a single route, but must have multiple ones to service an entire area -- only designed to ensure that since the contractors must hire other folks to run them, they couldn't be classed as employees anymore. Etc.   Even the biggest Class Act lawsuit that has been going on for more than a decade has only paid out chump change. FedEx has a small staff of lawyers whose main job is to hire other lawyers, who of course are paid much more than the total collective settlements in all 50 states to date.   They also made a deal with IRS to get out from under a half billion tax penalty just for one operating year, with no other years audited in future -- this of course all due to Fred Smith lubing the palms on the Hill.   All this also applies to Home Delivery branch, also, which is just a division of Ground.   Contracts with the big boys like these aren't really worth the paper they're written on in actual real world terms -- as they can tweak your actual income in a hundred ways to control your behavior without ever technically breaking the contract terms. And even if they do, and you somehow finance a suit through to a conclusion and win, it'll still cost them a helluva lot less in a settlement than they made off ya in the first place.   oops, got wound up.../rant   - OS

  Kwik probably is the slower brother.   Nice to see you around.  :)

What this tells me is that I should start my own taxi service.  I'll have my NRA license plate, advertisements on the roof for gun shops and the "coexist" sticker (as seen on this forum) on the rear bumper. I'll have a sign on the dash that says "Forms of payment accepted: cash, credit, ammo" :D  Wonder how many tourists I'll get?

Were't you coming back around to enjoy this? It has so many subtle layers to enjoy, like a fine scotch. Sent from the backwoods

Ok, I'll just say it openly. The TGO member known as Spru is not invited in any way, shape, form or fashion to any event that I host on my property. If he manages to find said property without getting completely and utterly lost in the backwoods of nowhere in some very unfriendly hick neighborhoods, and manages to make it on to my property through the locked gate and past the "No trespassing" signs he will be asked to leave. [emoji4] Sent from the backwoods

I haven't noticed any cars with proper signs posted on the doors.  Nor does their website give any notice to their customers or employees.

Golf balls.

two wrongs don't make a right.   I don't care to watch any of it.

    I finally watched the movie a couple of weeks ago and I felt about the same. It was a let down for me. If I would have never read the book I probably would have enjoyed it but knowing what I know from the book it just made the movie a let down. I don't like how they created Mustafa as his enemy, it cheapened the whole experience for me. 

They carry scarlet fever this time of year as well, I don't need with them until after a hard frost. I don't like killing much of anything while the young are depending on it either.

Copied from the military arms channel on facebook.       http://www.luckygunner.com/brady-v-lucky-gunner    

I walked around the SR-71 you mentioned prior to 9-11 while watching my step son graduate from Air Force Basic. It was amazing, many of the SR-71's now on static display in museums were cut up, then pieced back together forevermore rendered flightless. But then I doubt anyone will ever see another SR-71 ever take flight again. 

You ban get a printed book of charts here: http://www.lrn.usace.army.mil/Library/MapsandCharts.aspx. Covers Knoxville to Pacucah KY. Cost is $20. You can also down load any pages of in PDF and print for free. They have contours and navigation aids.

I say it's a opossum tooth. Google them, some look very similar and it would make sense.

http://wtop.com/national/2015/06/gunman-feared-blacks-were-taking-over-the-world/   And not unexpectedly the victims family members have forgiven the murderer, advised him to confess and repent. In so doing he's been advised he'll be OK. Whenever you read about hate or are frustrated by race baiter agitating for further gain witnessing the faith and forgiveness of those with greatest loss is humbling.  

You can find God at the gun range just as easy as any church house.  Charlie Haffner ALWAYS starts the day with a morning invocation.  He's also more than happy to talk about God or pray with you any time.  He will pray for healing or pray your groups tighten up.  Or both!   I go to the range EARLY sunday, get there before they open, maybe pick up trash or just sit and listen to the birds.  More God there than any church I ever been in.  

On Wednesday, I put up a ad on Armslist + Gun Owners Club (GOC) with interest in purchasing a Century (CAI) Romanian AES10B RPK rifle. Within that same night, I received a message from a gentlemen on Armslist with one for sale. After going back and forth on price for the past couple days, we agreed on a price last night, and to meet this morning. The rest as they was history! Please let me know if any you have a Type 1 or Type 1 Romanian RPK bipod, ladies + gentlemen!

  A good read.  It was always cool to hear former pilots of the Blackbird tell stories of outrunning SAM missiles, in over 1000 attempts to shoot one down, no missile ever got close to it ...

Thanks for all the replies men and thank you all for your service. :up:

Eh, the last one I shot was every bit as large as my smaller dog that's 19 lbs. I didn't weight the rabbit, but the estimated weight seems right.    As for regaling me with tales, I'm sure there are far more entertaining possibilities than cancerous rabbits. We actually have real bears and mountain lions out here, no doubt there's plenty of opportunity to mess with the new guy there. :lol: 

I still haven't figured out why a fist fight between 2 grown adults is illegal. If your man enough to run your mouth, then why go crying when somebody calls you on your bullshit. My dad grew up in the 60's and 70's and he talks about getting in a few fights. Generally if the cops got called, which was rare, they just told everyone to settle down. The internet and the modern day pussifcation of the American male has made it so most men and boys think of a fight as cussing each other and maybe a shove or two. You slug them and they are gonna just pull a gun ot call the cops am even though they helped escalate it

Quick reply, I was just sitting here thinking, I bet OS knows.  I thought I read that somewhere.  I asked 3 LEO's.  I got 2 no's and one yes.

I really think this stems from a long line of lack of discipline from parents these days. Personally reading the sass and just general lack of care from the OP makes me feel violent towards him. I want to treat him like a horrible, foul mouthed little kid and just smack his face. Or fingers in this case I guess. What part of community is so hard to understand?   I've only been a member since the end of December. So far I have met 2 really nice men (With my husband, that still sounds horrible), participated in a great purchase, befriended a fellow sticker lover, picked up 7 awesome chickens (Thanks again, Maroonandwhite!) and had really nice conversations with some very smart people. Sure there are some that I haven't. Yes everyone has a bad day but read my freakin list again! How awesome is that? So how can I have had such great experiences in such a little of time while someone else hasn't? Hmm.... Maybe I have been cordial and polite and voiced my opinions well while not insulting someone? It pays to be polite dude. You should try it. 

Point well taken. Its the first and only sticker on any vehicle I have earned. And I think harmless in this instance.

  Goodbye.

Read it again. It means the federal government shall not place restrictions against owning or carrying a firearm. I don't feel the state should either.