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Freedom of speech only guarantees that the government will not infringe upon your right. Non government entities can, and do, limit people's speech all the time and it is perfectly legal. Any private entity CAN legally dictate what you can, and cannot, say on their property. I can guarantee that the only reason anyone has a right to free speech on my property is because I let them have that right and because I am NOT a government entity they can either abide by MY rules or leave my property. The right of an individual does not outweigh the right of the property owner, period.   And as much as we hate it liberals CAN dictate what they will, and will not, allow on their property. We have no right to free speech or the right to keep and bear arms on THEIR property unless they allow us to have that right. And likewise they are not allowed to say what they want on our property.   Those putting on the show have NOT had their 1st amendment rights infringed. Even if those jihadists came in and forcibly made everyone shut up it was still not a violation of their 1st amendment rights, it takes a government agency to violate someone's 1st amendment rights and not some civilian with a gun. What the jihadists did do was violate law which is what is used for interactions between to private parties.   And yes there are consequences for everyone's speech, both good and bad, and there should be. One must weigh the consequences to determine if the reward outweighs the risks. For most people the risks are far too great to speak their mind. Everyone weighs those decisions every day and just because someone may have a right to say something does not mean they will not suffer the consequences for what they chose to say. If I were standing in front of a bunch of jihadists I can guarantee I will not say something that might result in my injury or death even though I am in the right and they are in the wrong. Just because someone has the right to say something does not mean they are exempt from the consequences and if those consequences break the law then they will have to deal with their own set of consequences for their actions. I can guarantee there is not a single person on this board who speaks their mind 100% of the time without weighing the consequences.

Disliking the Baltimore rioters doesn't make me a bigot. Calling them thugs doesn't make me racist. Disliking a 'religion' that tells its followers to enslave or kill nonbelievers, & subvert law and government to establish'religious' rule doesn't make me a bigot either. But go ahead and say it does, if you like. The word (like racist) has lost its sting. The ability to see something (or someone) for what it is, and the right to call it what it is, isn't something I am anxious to surrender.

May the Fourth be with you.

This one is headed to Hawaii made to the new owners requests. It's 1/4" thick 1095 carbon steel with textured black G10 scales. Man oh man is it a hoss..... :rofl:

This weekend, I had a metal roof put on my house.   Looks very nice and I expect it to perform just as well.   My house almost looks like a new house with it.   I will get new, improved gutters in a week or 2, the gutter guy is coming tomorrow to measure.   Then this fall, going to have the same guy that did my roof do my siding.   I really was past the time I should have had my roof put on,  When I brought this house I was told almost ever roof was repaired or replaced after a bad hail storm around 93 or 94.   I have been watching and in the past 3 years, almost half of the houses on my street and about 90 percent of the ones I can see from my front door have had new roofs put up.   Last year mine leaked around the chimney and I had the flashing repaired but knew it was time to plan a job.   I had the roofer paint my chimney, do the roof and fix the Eaves or Soffit and the fascia.   Everything looks so much better.   Can't wait to do the siding this fall when I can afford that job.     Wife can't wait for it to rain to hear it.  My self, I just feel better knowing we have a roof that is ready.

True, but if I'm gettin car jacked I most definitely will be in fear of my life.

I have absolutely zero dogs in this fight or fucks to give about this event. Still, I imagine quite a few of y'all will get get a chuckle out of this.

When those other religions start encouraging their followers to kill everyone that doesn't believe in their prophet, then we'll talk. Yes...I know that has nothing to do with their protected right to practice their religion of choice. ...No, I don't care. Call me whatever you like, but I don't give 1 farts worth of care about their freedom of religion as long as there is still one of them breathing and preaching that all whom don't follow allah should be killed. I do not believe in allah.

I traveled to Helena Montana this past week with a couple friends to explore some world class trout fishing on the Missouri River. Just thought Id share some pictures

  If that holster was included then it doubled the value, so yeah, good score :up:

Ahhhh! My eyes!!! Haven't seen something g so hideous.....since I looked at my own that looks just like it! Lmao Ugly, working, and cheap...like a Vegas bargain girl :lol:

  suspicious makes an excellent point here; he is dead right....   Why should we be concerned that some nut fringe group doesnt like somethin here in this country...?   We have the Bill of Rights that guarantees freedom of speech and freedom of association... If you decide not to do somethin just to placate some bunch of sons and daughters of satan who dont happen to like what you are doin; just what kind of freedom is that...?   Ya just as well be livin in a police state or a tyranny if you "self muzzle" yourselves so as not to offend some son of a b**ch who doesnt happen to like what ya are sayin...   We can quibble about the "wisdom" of havin a Muhammad cartoon gathering and exposition'; but i'm ok with it, and you should be too...   I say that you cant claim to be an American and not be willin to stand up for freedom of speech, no matter how blasphemous and heinous to some hearers... We dont censor speech here, we grade it and discuss it...If you censor it, it's a short step to controlling it... That, my friends, is tyranny...   I say, the hell with the muslums and anyone else who doesnt like it... Let em go where they demand those sorts of things; it aint here...   leroy

Finally got my very first 1911 - a Springfield Armory Loaded Parkerized. Sorry for the terrible pictures. Haven't had a chance to shoot it yet, but I did field strip it and do an initial cleaning. A couple of observations along those lines: 1. Everything I had read about the FLGR is absolutely true. Even using the included allen wrench, I didn't think I'd ever get the thing loose. And getting it back together after cleaning? Yeah, it was even more... interesting. May eventually go with the GI guide rod. 2. Even more difficult than the FLGR, however, was getting the slide stop back in - particularly the end closest to to the grip. There is a small piece of metal that protrudes slightly from the plunger tube (I think that's what it's called) that has to be depressed in order for the slide stop to go back in. Doing that without scratching your gun all to heck? Interesting... But in spite of the first-time challenges, there was something strangely fun about the whole thing. There's just something about working with a 1911 that is, well, pleasing... Provided I enjoy shooting it, looks like I may have found my handgun niche -- a very expensive niche... :D Thanks again for all the advice I receive here about what to get for my first one. So many good options... I'm confident this one won't be my last.

Just picked it up a bit ago!!! Can't wait to take to the range and wring it out!!! ? Do you think I got a good deal at $125? ?

Nice one but just like AR's , now you'll just have to have more .... Smaller ones , shinier ones , lighter ones ....

Pissing off the wife by burning up her plants can get you in a mess of trouble. :)

One of the more well-known pistols among enthusiasts is the Browning Hi Power, Mr. Browning’s last design. Its granddaddy was placed into production as the FN Model P35 in 1935 and it has been made in the millions over the years since then. For instance the German Army captured the FN factory when it overran Belgium in 1940 and produced over a quarter million of these guns for its own use before the war ended in 1945. After the war, FN concentrated mostly on the military market until Browning Arms decided to market the gun in the United States as the Browning Hi Power around 1950. It has been sold here continuously ever since. By 1970 FN and Browning’s Patents on the P35 had expired, so the Communist Hungarian arms conglomerate, FÉG, began producing the most faithful copy of the Hi Power ever seen outside of the FN plants in Belgium and Portugal. Completely reverse engineered, FÉG simply called it their Model P9. It was imported into this country during 1985 and 1986, and again from the early 90’s until FÉG declared bankruptcy in 2004. Importers such as Kassnar Imports, KBI, Century International, SSME, and Tennessee Guns International imported the guns under several model numbers. The most prolific of the importers was the Kassnar family’s KBI Inc., which imported them under their in-house model number PJK-9HP, and also as the Charles Daly Hi Power, which is what this story is all about. Here’s a photo of a first issue FEG P9, known as the KBI firm’s PJK-9HP. This is the gun that became the Charles Daly Hi Power discussed in the following paragraphs. Along about 2006 or so, KBI Inc., came up with a different way to produce and import these guns. He began importing them as unfinished kits which would be finished by contractors in the USA under the banner of the “Charles Daly Hi Power.” The real draw here is that they would be the only mass produced Hi Power ever to have “Made in USA” stamped on them. Unfortunately, it didn’t work. The Charles Daly Hi Power cost more to produce than it sold for, and KBI Inc., lost money on every one they sold. But they are darn good guns that are well worth their money and then some. If you hanker for one or own one, here are some facts that may be helpful to you. The first finishing contractor for these guns was Dan Wesson Inc., who finished the first 800 units (corrected 5/1/15 from the 500 originally stated) with serial numbers beginning in “HP.” The Dan Wesson guns were provided with dovetail slots set up for Novak style sights made to Browning Hi Power dimensions. The remainder of the Charles Daly Hi Power production run was finished by Magnum Research, Inc., and carried the serial number prefix “HPM.” The Magnum Research guns had their dovetail slots also set up for Novak style sights, but to the dimensions of the Colt M1911. The Charles Daly pistol in the photos is a Magnum Research "HPM" pistol and the sights are indeed made for the M1911 OK, so what about the guns. Are they worth anything? Yes, they certainly are. And they’re getting hard to get because their owners know what they have and don’t have much interest in getting rid of them. If you find one in good condition, you have a good gun made to the standards of well-made commonplace pistols, but not to the meticulous standard of finish workmanship found in the Browning gun. Their prices will run between a third and half as much as a new Browning Hi Power, so you can’t expect them to contain that gun’s premium finish work. I’ve owned five of the P9’s marked as CDHP’s and PJK-9HP’s and have never had a malfunction, so I think very well of them. They came with Uncle Mike's black rubber grips, which are functional but not attractive enough for me, so they were replaced right quick with a set of Herrett’s Cocobolo grips. They come with the FÉG extended safety lever, which is one of the nicest ones around. The sights provided on these guns were big dot express sights, which my old eyes and old habits just couldn’t get the hang of, so I replaced them with a set of adjustable sights from the now-defunct Miniature Machine Company of Las Vegas. The exterior finish is matte all over except for the sides of the slide, and the blue job is more grey blue than black blue. The external polishing of the metal is very well done. How accurate are they? Every one of them I’ve had were just as accurate as any of the mainstream 9mm’s like the Beretta 92, the Smith and Wesson 5906, and even the Browning Hi Power. If you can handle the sights, the inherent accuracy is there, and most of them have good enough triggers in them to really develop their accuracy potential. And any magazine that will work in the Browning Hi Power will also work in the Charles Daly Hi Power. I don’t think you can go wrong with one if you can handle a single action gun. So if you happen to run into one over at the LGS be careful, they tend to want to follow you home. Hope this information will be helpful to you. EssOne PS: How about the double action FÉG Hi Power pistols you see on the gun auction sites? The sellers are badly mistaken - they’re not Hi Powers at all. They were designed as loose but fairly faithful copies of the Smith and Wesson Model 59 and have nothing in common with the Hi Power beyond the Colt/Browning locking system. They’re good guns in their own right; they just aren’t Hi Powers.

I've seen Def Leppard live and trust me, Rick Allen has absolutely no problem playing everything he used to play. In fact he has stated that losing his arm has caused him to really improve his timing. For the record, their concerts are great. In fact, seeing them live made me like their music again, and possibly more. Nickelback still sucks though. I heard an interview with them on the radio where they said they were working on a new album and they were halfway through a new song when their producer came in and told them they had already recorded this song. They said, "We have?" He said, "Yea, it's on your second album." What a bunch of dopes.

Lots of ways to look at it, I guess. A friend of mine from South Mississippi asked this morning, "Kinda like hunting over a baited field, ain't it?".

When it's time for the siding think about getting siding with Styrofoam attached to it. It costs a bit more but heating a home isn't getting any cheaper. The homes in Tennessee aren't insulated as well as they should be. In the long run you'll save yourself some bucks. 

Was it on a Cadillac?

Congrats! I was a roofer many years ago, before metal became popular. I've got metal on my home now and love it. It can get loud in a heavy rain but it is calming. Got some dings in from hail but it can't be seen from the ground.

I think you can relax, these brainiacs determined that if we spend lots and lots of money that winds up in their pockets the climate will let us survive what would be a tragic slow cooking death. And the unicorns will come back!

<perk!>  (food ?!?!)

I've been heavily into single malt scotch for well over 20 years now-- There was a time years ago when I even got special proprietor import bottlings through Fed Ex from an out-of-state collector's club (yes, I know that was considered a no-no under TN law ). I can say with some chagrin that I over the years I have probably passed more $$$ through my kidneys in the form of single malt scotch than I have spent on ammunition. :stunned:   Fine single malt should be served "neat" (straight with a splash) at reasonable room temperature, or at cellar temperature (no colder than 55 degrees)--with a splash or two of distilled water (or water from the distiller's source, which is pretty much impossible to get here in the USA). The water simply serves as a vehicle to liberate the nose of the scotch and give it "legs" in the glass-- not to cool it. If you nose (deep sniff) a glass of scotch before AND after adding a splash, you'll understand what I'm talking about. The small amount of water tames the alcohol in the aroma, and allows the aromas and flavors to come out ahead of the alcohol. Keep in mind that the goal is NOT to dilute the scotch, but merely "wake up" the flavors. However, a special case must be made for "cask strength" bottlings, as they have not been pre-cut (diluted) by the bottler... In this case, you may add slightly more water to taste, as it the additional water will be necessary to overcome the aggressive nose of the higher alcohol content-- a "cask strength" bottling will usually say so on the label, but if not, anything above 90 proof is generally considered "cask strength" in the scotch world. Also, if you're drinking single malt at a glass temperature above 55 degrees, you're missing the whole point of single malt-- the chill from ice substantially reduces the ability of your palate and your nose to detect and appreciate all of the flavor and aromatic subtleties in a good single malt.   I'm not saying this to put anyone down, but If you can't handle your scotch without ice or soda, don't waste money on Single Malts-- just buy a decent blended Scotch, (and don't pick it from the bottom shelf at the liquor store-- that's the cheap stuff). Drinking single malt over ice is like drinking port or cognac over ice... you just wasted your money-- but hey, it's your money.   LINKS2K-- the single malt scotch world is as diverse (if not moreso) as the world of wine. You can chart your own course unguided, but that can be rather expensive, especially if you start with scotch from the "wrong" region. What I mean is that scotch from the lowland distilleries  and the Speyside distilleries is very, very different as opposed to scotch from the Islay and Campbeltown distilleries. If you are a true neophyte when it comes to scotch, and you don't have an experienced person to help guide you, I would highly recommend buying a copy of The Complete Guide to Single Malt Scotch by the late Michael Jackson (not THAT Michael Jackson!). The last edition was published in 2010, so it is still pretty up-to-date.   As a general rule, most beginners do not start with Islay or Campbeltown malts, as they can be rather brutal to the inexperienced palate. Lowland and Highland (Speyside) malts tend to be lighter in body and flavor than their western maritime (West Scotland) cousins, and are a very good place to begin your journey. The lowland scotches are a little less well-known in the US, but there are some good brands out there-- Auchentoshan and Glenkinchie being two of the more readily available.   As far as highland and Speyside (a specific highland scotch-producing region) whiskies go, There have already been a couple mentioned here-- Glenlivet and the Macallan, both of which are very fine representatives of the highland whisky style. Aberlour has also been mentioned, and it also happens to be one of my personal favorites for the money, and also happens to be the biggest selling single malt in France.   I'm not even going to get into recommending Islay or Campbeltown malts yet, because unless you are a true daredevil, it may put you off of scotch completely... ride the highland malt "tricycle" for a while before moving up to the Islay malt "Harley Davidson"... know what I mean?   One more thing-- don't get too hung up on the "age" of the scotch-- it's largely a marketing tool, and many times is a rather overrated yardstick, and often yields differences subject to the law of diminishing returns (and a diminishing pocketbook). That's not to say that different age bottlings of the same brand are not different-- they usually are-- however, if you are not experienced enough to detect the differences, then you haven't gained a whole lot, other than to say "I just spent $150 on this bottle of scotch..." To give you a parallel, It's pretty easy for even the most inexperienced smoker to tell the difference between a $1.00 cigar and a $10.00 cigar--- but telling the difference between an $10.00 cigar and a $25.00 cigar takes a little more experience, a little more money, and sometimes a little more foolhardiness.

Key words quoted to show differentiation. I do not believe there is a perversion of the religion of islam at hand. Have people of all religions killed through the years? Certainly. Are there any killing right now, other than these guys, that are actually endorsed by their religion and instructed to do so in the religious text they study? If there are I'm not aware of any. I think I've made my point. I honestly do believe in equal rights for all men and women in this country as guaranteed by our constitution. But I also believe that your rights stop where mine start. If you believe in a religion that teaches you that you ought to kill me simply for not believing the same as you, I believe your rights are pushing a little too far toward my side of the line we've drawn 'tween us.

A right not exercised is lost. Also, anyone who says "I believe in free speech, but..." doesn't really.

maybe some fake draw mohammad events should be staged in order to draw these rats out.   the dutch guy always causes a stir when he speaks

Nice... When we finally build our house in 2 years we plan on going with a metal roof. Love sleeping in cabins with metal roofs. Mark

If I were to ever have a sticker or any band on my car, it would be Tool.   EDIT: video is probably NSFW, "bad" language.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vFlgDByIGw

Great gun and well worth $200, but friends don't let friends move to New York.

I have worked 11 straight 12 hour shifts the last two weeks. I got today off and decided to do something special. I left work at 430 am, and fired the forge at 500 am. I'll post up dates to this thread as I work today if you want to follow along. This is when I fired the forge at 500 am Our material for the day. A 1 1/4" jackhammer bit that will be cut and used to make a tomahawk. A small file for a patch knife. A brick hammer for a Pulaski hawk, and a 1/4" leaf spring for a long hunters style belt knife

Every thing i look for that no one has seems to be at guns and leather greenbriar. All your fault!, I cant stay outta there! Thanks a lot! u got me hooked on this place!

"It's (ie...the grid) not adequately protected from cyber or physical sabotage," Pry said in an interview with Fox News. This is the more realistic threat and is just as real. I've said it before on another thread here on this subject. Power transformers (161KV 500kv and up) are made to order due to cost to manufacture with a 2 year turnaround. EVERYTHING else on the grid is there to protect these transformers. A syncronized attack could put the grid in the dirt in a heartbeat. Utter disaster wouldl follow in days.

  Should it not feed reliably almost certainly the mag, quite thin steel. Tweak the lips closer together usually fixes it. Rounds must angle upward in the mag.   - OS

Enjoy the safest and most reliable pistol on the planet. Not many handguns can handle rounds loaded to 4x or 5x max pressures like a High Point.

Heck of a first 1911. Congratulations :up:

Been wanting this since it was announced and I finally picked one up. <Insert happy dance>

LOL. From louderwithcrowder.com... Dear Fascist, Islamic, puke-satchels, Okay, nobody was killed in the #GarlandShooting, thank God. Actually, thank God specifically for giving us Texas and the 2nd amendment. Good form! The problem here is that because no innocent people were killed, the media will sweep the “incident” under the rug. If only the terrorists had taken aim at say, looting rioters, maybe it would’ve gotten more traction. The important issue here is that these incidents will never end. Ever. As long as Islam exists, these events will occur. And because of liberals kneeling before their gods of “tolerance,” they will occur with greater frequency. To Muslims, we are told that we need to be tolerant. That we must respect your Islamic faith. That we can’t judge many by the actions of a few. Here’s the thing: these aren’t the actions of a few. Muslims know this. Drawing Muhammad in any shape or form is a punishable sin in Islam. All of Islam. Period. It is for this reason that the religion deserves no tolerance. Zero. Nada. Zilch. No other religions demands the subversion of the First Amendment as Islam does. You can draw Jesus, sure. Even create a play (like “Jesus Christ Superstar”) about him. You can sell statues of Bhudda or Vishnu. Heck, I’m pretty sure you can even purchase illustrated version L. Ron. Hubbard’s science fiction novels (before they became a religion and all). I’ve even got my Tom-Cruise engraved thetan-testing kit. Highly reccomended. But the second anyone pencils a little picture of Muhammad, everyone’s sphincter puckers tighter than a starfish on a sun-dial. I’m not even talking about actual terrorism (you know, where thousands of people die at the hands of Islamist ever day). But ideological terrorism. No other religion demands that we play by their rules in the way that Islam does. Rules that are unconstitutional. Rules that by design, are anti-freedom. Liberals demand that Conservatives stay “out of their uterus” and “out of their bedroom.”How about demanding that Muslims (yes, ALL Muslims) stay out of our scrapbooks, our computer programs, and our pencil cases? Better yet, if you have a problem with our illustrations, how about staying out of our civilized countries? If I want to draw Muhammad, I’ll draw Muhammad. If you don’t like it, go fornicate yourself. Why? Because you don’t get to tell me what I can draw. I don’t care how much you bully, I don’t care how much you try and intimidate, and I certainly don’t care how angry your imaginary moon-god and his pedophile, war-mongering prophet get. To those saying that I’m an intolerant jerk… hey, I’m not the one forbidding a damn picture. Intolerance, my ass. Read more: http://louderwithcrowder.com/dear-muslims-why-am-i-drawing-muhammad-because-go-screw-yourselves/#ixzz3ZBvg414I

If I read the story correctly, the shooter was not being carjacked. He saw someone else being carjacked and intervened. I would agree that a reasonable person would think that the vicitm's life is in danger.   However, the unarmed carjacker turned from the car and moved towards the shooter. That's where I'd need more information to give my own opinion about if this would be a legal shoot or not in TN. Did the shooter know or should have known the perp was unarmed? What distances are we talking about here? Was there a significant size disparity between the shooter and the perp? Stuff like that and others would all come in to play here in TN.   The article does say the perp was lunging in an effort to grab the gun. At that point, yeah, a reasonable person would have been in fear of his life and lethal force would be good to go, in my not-a-judge-or-jury opinion,

  Oh boy! The liberals ain't gonna like you :). I'll bet you carry guns and knives too.

  All I know... When our limp wristed president winds up killin' a bunch of them, they probably really need killin' :)

"should" and "Are".....two separate things I agree they should be able to hold this event without disturbance. But reality is obviously different. I agree with Mikegideon. They did prove a point.

  Kinda like rat bait, eh? :)

Good Guys: 2, Bad Guys: .5 (? Not sure how to count an injury) Maybe if we can bring all the nutjobs out of the woodwork like this where they can identify themselves plainly we can at least clean house a little. Wait... is that insensitive? ... whatever. Hope the officer makes a full and complete recovery quickly.

  I would never want to use a carbine or rifle for home defense without a red dot sight.  Yeah, maybe you should be able to hit a plate sized target at 25' with a rifle just by pointing (since I never tried it, I won't even say I can)...but in an adrenaline filled, live speed situation like a home defense scenario, I want the red dot.   Also, x2 on what Mike said about opening the other eye.  With enough practice and walking around with the rifle up, it becomes natural.  Like having a HUD in your brain.

On Flattop Mountain in Hamilton County I got my limit twice last week using nightcrawlers from Ace Hardware. Cherokee Slim

I have done brakes jobs on them before and other small work. Go over to Hoye tractor site. They got a rebuild kit for Yanmar. When I need Yanmar parts I get them from Hoye. They also got a depart section to show you how to do all most everything.

Doesn't anybody read my post :( ....

It wont do me much good.......at 80 ......my shots are numbered...........LOL :rofl:  Didnt want to sound gruesome but reality is a bitch.   One plus of becoming a senior is you get a free fishing and hunting license.