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Jenner's one thing. But pleasepleaseplease don't tell me Tony the Tiger......................................................

This is a story about an AR build project that turned out really well. First, here's the culprit, my plain as mud "A2.5" Click here to view the original image of 640x480px. For a number of years I’ve been stuck on the idea of an AR “short rifle” instead of a carbine. I envisioned a beautifully balanced, proportional little rifle that would have a 16” government contour barrel (not the M4 style) and a conventional fixed butt stock. As far as I know, nobody ever tried to market such an animal, at least I couldn't find one anyway. So I finally got my gumption up and put one together myself. (Actually I only built the lower, Spikes built the upper.) What I did to arrive at my ultimate end, my “short rifle,” was to take a Spike’s Tactical 16” mid length flat top upper receiver assembly and mate it up with a standard, A3 lower receiver assembly. And boy does it mount, point, and swing like a million dollars. I've had the chance to wring it out on the range now and it shoots every bit as good as it looks, coming in at roughly 1.5 MOA with iron sights. Here's another view of it to give a better idea of its proportions. I think it's a pretty handsome rifle, myself. Click here to view the original image of 640x378px. In the hands of a six foot, 190 pound shooter One of my biggest goals was to keep it mechanically clean, simple, and relatively unsophisticated. Mission accomplished. The Spike’s upper receiver assembly came with an M16 bolt carrier group and a 16” government contour CMV/CL barrel with a 1:7 rate of twist, and a MagPul MOE forend. The rear sight is an LMT stand alone unit. The Spike's lower receiver is set up with a Geissele SSA trigger, an Armalite ambi selector and lower parts kit, a MagPul MIAD pistol grip, and a JP Enterprises tuned buffer spring. To preserve the look I was after I topped it off with a (gasp) black M1/M14 sling. So as such things go today, it’s a pretty plain Jane rifle that won't turn a lot of heads at a gadget convention, but then I don't care much for luggage racks and running boards on my cars, either. For my first accuracy tests I fired four 100 yard bench rest groups with Outback and Privi 69 grain and 75 grain target hollow points. They were fired with iron sights and with the rifle resting on my range bag. They all measured right at 1 5/8" per each four shot groups. A 3x scope put them into an inch. I've sat at the bench with common XM193 ammo and, shooting off my elbows without a rest, dinged the 12"X18" dingers at 240 yards with egotistically pleasing regularity. Heck, at my age I'll settle for that! Here is one of the groups I mentioned. [URL=http://s275.photobucket.com/user/jaypee3843/media/e1cbb1ea-13b5-44c9-8607-88b8c63206b4_zps1p7pn5ty.jpg.html][/URL] I've tried several borrowed scopes on it and only one of them worked well and didn't louse up the balance and make the gun want to get "tippy". That was the Burris A332 Prism sight, but I haven't bothered to photograph the gun with a scope on it because I'm still not convinced I'm going to keep it scoped. I just like the balance better with the irons. What's the "A2.5" all about? Well, it looks a bit like a cut down A3, so I just shaved off a half point and called my "A2.5." It's kinda neat having a gun nobody else on the block has, even if it is a little plain, and especially since I got to set it up the way I wanted the rifle to be. Like George Peppard use to say on "The A Team" I love it when a plan comes together. EssOne

If you did, you know what I'm talking about.  WTF?

Some very good thoughts and commentaries from many here. And I really do not disagree with most of them.   Sure it was quite a revelation to many. And it will continue to be a news-making story for a while longer.   I do not object to Bruce Jenner in his personal choices. I do object to his actions as to how they have  impacted others. I do say that it is his choice and he will do as he thinks best for himself.   My concern is that which comes form a strictly biblical standpoint.   Some will agree with me. Others will not.   That is ok. We all make our own choices.

  You don't even have to make a new law, just drop the penality for possession on private property that's posted. There is a tresspassing law that would be suficient, they don't want you with your gun they just tell you to leave their property, if you don't or refuse to then they can have you charged with tresspassing. Then, what I wish someone would do is sue the business for discrimination since liberals want to force private businesses like bakeries to make gay wedding cakes, force businesses to provide birth control to nymphomaniac employees ect. They don't believe in personal choice unless it's the choice they personally approve of.

all I ever have used Wheaties for is to make balls for fishing bait.   As for Bruce,  I don't care what he does.  I do know life is too short and if this makes him happy then good for him.  People are allowed to be happy.   You can't change that he is arguably the greatest Olympian ever.

My biggest problem with all this is who gives a shit? I could give a damn if some dude wants to be a woman or marry another dude or whatever.  I'm not saying I agree with what they want to do or how they live their lives, but who am I to judge.  We are all sinners.  As others have said, live and let live.    The problem I have with all this junk is, for one, how is this the top news story? You cannot tell me there aren't more important things going on that you have to interview some crazy bastard who wants to be a chick.  Secondly, as far as all the gay stuff and what not, when it comes to the point of forcing people to do things against their beliefs and wrecking their lives over it, that is a problem.    Bottom line is that people need to get over it, put on some big girl panties :cool: and just get on with living rather than making sure everyone knows you're gay or want to be transgendered or whatever other internal affliction with which you struggle. 

How about a TN Constitutional amendment that every other session, the legislature can only repeal laws, not enact any new ones?   How about a US Constitutional amendment that does same?   - OS

There is no reasonable explanation for current .22 prices other than pure, unadulterated greed based on ignorance.   This all started right after Sandy Hook in December of 2012.  Why, I have no idea because there is no reasonable explanation.   The factories are still pumping it out at the same price they were two years ago....assuming a slight increase there as they jack prices every year.   BTW, there are probably 908 threads on this forum addressing the same question.  ;)

I am bit curious why so much identity is tied up in sexuality these days. It's a new phenomenon in case you didn't know. Makes me think it's largely disingenuous and much of it is concocted for attention and justification. Much like global warming/cooling/climate change.

I found this little jewel. I thought I read where you like stainless. I'm just the opposite.

  That of course is everyone's right and should not be extrapolated to mean he's hiding something.  Civilians are commonly told to say nothing except "I want to speak to my attorney" after a self-defense shooting.  Everything that happens after a fatality is the domain of lawyers.  It's best to let them do what they went to school for and are paid the big bucks for.   That particular cop might just be the smart one.

  After reading the comments after the article...I feel sick. These pople did nothing but try to live by their beliefs. Yet someone else can destroy them because they don't like the way the couple tried to live?   Can we file suit against that lesbian couple? I feel mentally raped because I'm forced to listen to them cry about a wedding cake.

You do realize that sometimes the criminal is wearing a badge?

So how long before some 'tard (a la the Chipotle OC dipshits) shows up at Chester Frost beach with an AR pistol slung on a single point?

Sad that neither of you guys have any friends! :-D

I'm sure you gents are feeling the same way I felt when one of my aviation heroes, Charles A. Lindbergh, was found to have fathered ten children by seven different European women from 1957 to 1967.Fortunately his wife was dead by the time it came out. Funny how some people go about finding happiness at the expense of others, isn't it?

Bollocks. Forgot to add the distance from the tip to the ogive. These 122hr work weeks'll do that!

During the interview, he admitted that he was wrong for putting the wives through this mess, but he also said that he wasn't attracted to men. I'm also a live and let live kind of guy, but hearing this news threw me for a loop because he was my childhood superman.

Bruce (...or Brucetta...) is the ugliest white woman (...or whatever...) ive ever seen; and ive seen some real ugly...   sore eyed leroy

Well this will make your head explode lol :rofl:   http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/25/politics/bruce-jenner-diane-sawyer-transgender-lgbt-republican-conservative/index.html   And i quote....

  The "if he was not guilty of anything why was he running" line is irrelevant to the issue at hand, which are the conditions this man was treated to while in police custody.  Even his alleged crime doesn't factor into that.   From a Fox News link The Gray family's lawyer, Billy Murphy, said "his spine was 80 percent severed" while in custody. It's not clear whether he was injured by officers in the street or while being carried alone in the van's compartment.   I'm not medically smart enough to know the amount of trauma it takes to sever the human spine that much, but the fact that it happened to a man in police custody warrants an investigation.  If there is anybody found to be responsible for negligence, intentional or accidental, there needs to be consequences.  A community has the right to demand that.

...to TGO   You're on vacation and you still log in...(yes LIONSFAN, I think you need to admit the group you may have a small problem :))

As far as not deciding whether or not one is gay, there's this:   http://www.celebitchy.com/10740/anne_heche_says_she_changed_her_mind_about_being_gay_compared_it_to_opening_doors/

Bait and switch. Nothing to see with the pacific rim trade treaty that's gonna be fast tracked. http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/kill-the-dispute-settlement-language-in-the-trans-pacific-partnership/2015/02/25/ec7705a2-bd1e-11e4-b274-e5209a3bc9a9_story.html Move along to Bruce!

I'm just going to leave this right here...   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFXqTNJXMls

Yeah, it'd suck to have to change your screen name again, lol

I've owned several Kimbers.  I had no problems with any of them.  Hands down the most reliable of the bunch was my Warrior that I had worked over by Jeff Meister.  I had no problems with it before he touched it either, but afterward the thing just ran and ran and ran.  He reamed the chamber, addressed some issues with the feed ramp, tightened the slide a little and that was that.   I hear the current owner would rather talk to you about giving up a kidney than giving up my old Warrior.   ;)   All that being said, hundreds of bad reports out there on the Internet might be fabrications, but they might not be either.  I went with a Colt for my last purchase for a reason, but it was a toss-up between it and a Springfield.  I think either of those two would be far above a Kimber on my current shopping list were I to do it again right now.  Kimber has acquired a bad reputation lately for a reason.

Mark up due to storage fees?

    Wait for the Godson in October, they are the perfect size for carry in my opinion

I have the Dawson FO on a M&P pro 9mm which I shoot often. No problems. In fact, I think it is a much brighter FO than a couple of other brands I have.

You can get spare fiber optic rods from Dawson. If a rod in a front sight does break, replacing it is a three-minute job requiring only a pair of fingernail clippers and a cigarette lighter. HTH, Whisper

I was reading up on this last night and found several anecdotal reports of "suspects" being taken on intentionally violent rides in cruisers or transport vans while handcuffed and shackled and summarily receiving spinal injuries as a result.  If that practice is indeed employed by some officers, there might be something to this story.   Like someone else said in this thread, it's rather difficult to logically walk through how a suspect can be subdued and restrained, and then somehow receive an injury that almost completely severs their spinal cord while in custody.  Was there another fight or scuffle with officers?  Some sort of sincere "freak accident"?   This one just looks bad no matter what news source I use to read accounts of what happened.  Baltimore PD may have brought this one upon themselves.

Not necessarily, most I've encountered who've fled when questioned after the fact simply didn't want to be arrested. In some cases it was simple life style, in others they just liked to run from the police so they could laugh about it later. Most weren't the least bit frightened of the police and were quite derisive of same. Your thoughts that offenders run due to horror stories of police dealings look good in a news story but my own experience has been such reasoning was very rare.  

I've got FOs on all my Glocks, though they are just lowly 9mm, I can't see you having a problem. They do break and come out from time to time, none of mine have after thousands of rounds, but hear it does happen. They are easy enough to replace, just buy some spares and carry on. Edit to add: I use 10-8 sights and like them very much. http://www.10-8performance.com/categories/Sights/

The fiber optic strands are such low weight I cannot imagine the recoil being a problem.

From the mid-70s through the mid-80s he was manhood personified. Yet during all that time he was dealing with gender dysphoria. I am imagine this is throwing a lot of people for a loop. My hope is that it will open some hearts and minds to the fact that there are many things about gender and sexual identity that they don't really understand and it will hopefully lead them to be more understanding and accepting of others. I wish Bruce all of the happiness that he can find for himself in his remaining years. 65 years is a long time to hate what you see in the mirror.

I'm pretty "Libertarian" when it comes to sexual orientation.  Besides, Jenner says that he's not gay.   However, putting the Olympic Champion / 1970's kid / damage to my psyche aside...   He married three times and fathered a lot of kids while in the midst of his "confusion." That, IMO, equals AHOLE.   Funny thing, I watched a motivational speech given by him (back when he was doing those) and thought it was pretty good.

While I adamantly believe that there are more good cops than bad but lot of times I just shake my head....   http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop-ruptures-mans-spleen-fellow-cops-laugh-pics-lays-dying-begging-medical/#TTIEeJ3ljv9lkePH.99  

  I'm just hoping that they eventually remove the force of law from no-gun signs.  That would be a huge step in the right direction.

Could be a publicity stunt, instantly to the top of the news charts.

  I'm really not interested in leaving retirement, but maybe a federal job is ideal for my skill set.  :pleased:

Once the governor signs a bill it is law.  Period.  Not when new law books get printed or LexisNexis gets updated.     The conference committee report that was the end result of the original bill clearly states it "shall take effect upon becoming law".  BTW, the original bill stated it would take effect April 6th. 

Now the tri-cities .22 scumbag resellers have a new place to line up every morning.

"D.T. McCall's, Carthage and Lafayette." ONLY ones that will deliver AND set the safe up for free.

Yeah, but have you ever signed on through your smart phone while taking an early morning dump in a portapotty at the gunrange before other folks show up? Yeah, me neither.

It was because the .40 was a Glock.  a .40 from a Springfield or Sig will not be as effective.

They're a nuiscance, and they're definitely on the move.  I remember as a kid down in Georgia, there was a guy out on Cumberland Island whose sole job was to drive around in this old Toyota pickup and shoot armadillos on sight.  Most days, the bed of his truck had dozens, if not more dead ones.   Be careful touching them - alive or dead.  They're know to be able to transmit leprosy to humans.  Almost a third of the reported cases of leprosy every year are due to armadillo contact.