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If only there were a search feature to determine if this subject were already being discussed on TGO.  ;)

I think one should honor one's contracts.   However, like house or car payments, perhaps NFA would refi if you contact them.   - OS

Saddest part is, those stories are believable.

Finished my Trust.  Went to Everything Weapons today and bought my suppressor. Mailing off the $200 and the metric crap ton of paperwork tomorrow.   THEN.... Wait.     This sucks.         My birthday is in Sept.  Maybe I'll have it by then.  Then I'll have a nice B/day with a titanium suppressor for my AR I'm almost done building.   Tell you what though, now I know why so many refuse to bother.  For simple minded people who loathe and despise paperwork [like me!] it's a bit ridiculous.  Ohh well.  Worth it in the end.  I just hope the poop can't satay off the fan till then. :rofl:

Bandit on vacation.

2 of my heathens, both rescued. 14 yr old female rattie on the left, 2 yr old 3 lb chi on the right... They just came in from partying downtown....

    Simply excellent comments from both wileecoyote and Runco. Well said guys.

That's awesome!

  Yeah, I'm sure most fire them, but as you mention, keeping cases sequestered, labeling, filing along with some sort of retrieval system, all that.   Of course the whole thing is absurd though. As if a casing at a crime scene could somehow be used to identify not only the brand but the exact gun, among all those sold by every maker of that caliber.   "Here, take this casing around to SW, Ruger, SIG, Springfield, etc ad infinitum, and compare it will all the ones they have in storage."   "Sure, boss, I'll get right on that."   - OS

After giving 1911s a fair shake and trying my best to like the P220 grip, I got a 97 BD. I'm glad I did. I wish they'd make P-01 size version.

  More importantly, I don't want to get shot by someone I just shot with bird shot.   - OS

This is what Roman does when my wife is acting up or doesn't give him a treat. As soon as I walk in, he jumps in my lap and tells on her! "Dad, seriously, it's about time you got home from work. She is NOT behaving!" :lol: Love this big feller!!

Willis68 has made me into a protech snob

  It happens everyday, everywhere.  I really don't see what the problem is.   If I go buy two quarter pounders at McDonald's today then get a coupon tomorrow for buy one get one free should I go back and ask for a refund? No.   If I buy anything today and it goes on sale tomorrow, why should I or anyone else, expect to be compensated?

The pistol grip shotguns, at least in 12 gauge, are hard to control after the 1st shot.  I get followup shots off much quicker with a full stock.  #4 Buck is good, and I've read that #1 is better for penetration, but it's harder to find.   I'm only gonna clear the room I'm in.  The cops can do the rest.

A shotgun is good home defense weapon. Sounds like your Mossberg has a 20” barrel. That’s fine as long as you can maneuver it. Barrel length usually becomes an argument when people start talking about “clearing” your apartment or house. If you know someone is there you don’t go hunting; you let them come to you, through the fatal funnel. If you aren’t sure you run the risk of being taken out no matter what kind of weapon you have. I would use 00 over #4. But everyone will have an opinion; they will both penetrate multiple sheets of drywall. Short of non-lethal or bird shot there isn’t anything you can put in a 12GA that won’t put your neighbors at risk if you shoot the wall. The same thing will happen if you miss with a handgun. A dog will let you know if someone is in your house or apartment.

I wanted a new pocket gun for summer and picked up a G42. I like this gun a lot more than I really thought I would. It shoots great and I've had zero issues. It's about as big as I'd go for pocket carry though. Put extensions on 2 mags and got another I left the flat base on. I've never owned any flavor of a Ruger MKIII. I saw the new blue 22/45 Lite and really liked the thing for some reason. Haven't had a pistol with a red dot on it before so I bought a cheap one to try out. Liked it so I'll be getting a better one. I've monkeyed with the trigger a little and put a TandemKross comp on it just because. Need to order up some extra mags because it's definitely fun to shoot!! I've wanted a VP9 for several month. They've been hard to find around Morristown. I had ordered one online for a good price but it got backordered. Finally ran across one the other day and brought it home. I REALLY like this thing. The ergos are great and the trigger is even better. Got a couple holsters for it due Mon or Tues.

A CZ75 is on my wish list directly after an AR and would be next on the list if I didn't already have some nice 9mm's.     I've heard someone refer to the CZ75 as the Browning Hi Power done correctly, and that's true as far as I can tell.

The family and I took in this sweet little girl. This is our first foster and we were lucky to get a easy going dog. It might make it hard to let her go.

I have always wanted a 97BD , congrats on a fine pistol !

Of course not, would not need barristers if laws were simple and easy to understand.  Who would make their Mercedes payments???

I don't have any issues with the officer's actions. Hell, I think that it was a brave judgement call.

Excessive force would be if they beat him after he was down.  Since he had already fired the gun, stakes were pretty high.   In short, they stopped the threat.

    Though I'd love to see the rants, I'll spare everyone chagrin.   Another satire site. Look at homepage, some pretty funny stuff.   Aaron Hernandez Suspended Three Games Following Murder Conviction   Elizabeth Warren Stunned To Learn Jos. A. Bank Is Not A Bank     - OS

Turkey hunting is like none other. I am a big deer hunter...I mean BIG deer hunter. But nothing gets my heart rate up like a turkey does. This is for several reasons. 1) turkey hunting is interactive. Calling and having them respond is incredible. Sometimes calling works great, sometimes you need to adjust your calling and sometimes it doesn't work at all. But even that doesn't mean you won't have a good hunt. Have had several turkeys come into calling but they came silently. When a mature bird gobbles in the woods, you will feel it in your chest. Similar to a ghetto cruiser blasting rap music a few cars away. Hence the "Thunder Chicken" nickname. 2) Thrill of the chase. You have a few ways you can hunt them and you need to constantly adapt, improvise and overcome. You can sit and wait (much like deer) or you can run after them. Having to make that decision wether to sit and wait or chase is all part of the ever changing game. If you desired to chase, how close do you need to get? Lots of brain power involved in turkey hunting. 3) Closeness. You've got to get these birds in close (around 40 yards at most). When you have a bird in close to you, you can see all their feathers, their eyes, hairs on their neck. And they are BIG. those guys will be looking you dead in the eye. Being close also has its challenges. Turkey eyesight is second to none. You have to be completely cammoed and completely still, only moving at the perfect times or you will get busted. 4) Spring is beautiful. Temps are nice, all the critters start coming out. Everything is greening up and it's arguable the most beautiful time of the year. 5) Social. It's super fun to go with someone. In fact having 2 people can even open you up to some hunting strategies that will help bag more birds. You don't have to worry about sent or even noise too much. In the wild, it's normal for the hens to come to the gobblers. But as a turkey hunter, you are trying to reverse nature and have the gobbler come to you. It's very challenging. I'm sure I'm forgetting some things. But hopefully that helps give you some perspective.

  I think he had stolen the rifle and had fired at least one round into the sky as a sort of intimidation tactic. He was asking for trouble of some sort.   From the article the Devil's Advocate did not read:   Tucson Police Sgt. Pete Dugan told CNN that Valencia was involved in several incidents in Tucson the day he was struck.   At 6:45 a.m., Valencia robbed a 7-Eleven in Tucson with a metal object in his hand. Authorities said he was dressed only in his underwear. He was charged with theft.   A little more than an hour later, police said, Valencia set a fire at a church for which he was charged with arson of an occupied structure.   Just after that he entered a home and stole a car, police said.   Authorities said he drove to a Walmart where he stole a .30-30 rifle and ammunition. He fled the store with Walmart employees in pursuit.

http://www.mandatory.com/2014/08/12/and-here-are-some-dogs-who-wish-they-hadnt-messed-with-bees/ Couple of those look pretty rough lol

Forgive me if I'm missing something here... It's ok for any yahoo who can pass the HCP test to carry a loaded gun in any sort of manner and sit across from you and your family at a restaurant, or full up their car with gas at the next pump.... but it's not ok for a group of people serious enough about it to spend significant time and money to participate in a sport that improves their skills to stand around carrying loaded guns? Do you also wonder why cops feel the need to disarm a person carrying lawfully during a traffic stop or other encounter?

I wouldn't be too concerned about getting a jammomatic. I bought my first CZ 85 in 1992 and have had four others since and have only had one malfunction in all those years. It was caused by a damaged magazine, not the gun. So like I said, not to worry. If you'd like to know a little about how the CZ has changed over the years, there's a 99 cent Kindle book entitled "The Evolution of the CZ 85" that compares the Pre-B and B guns. It's at http://www.amazon.com/EVOLUTION-CZ-85-Jerry-Paregien-ebook/dp/B00DOPTMF2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1429474381&sr=8-1&keywords=the+evolution+of+the+cz+85+kindle+edition

Happened to me at a match in Georgia. I opted not to go hot, which is totally within the rules, just in case I needed to step outside the stage boundaries for restroom, safe table for equipment check, ect. Plus my routine is to chamber check and after all, we are creatures of habit and I like my pre shoot routine.

I love the grips on that one.  

I hope you all had a great time this weekend and that the weather was not too uncooperative.  Looking forward to reading those After Action Reports!

I've been a whitewater kayaker for about 35 years now. In fact, it's one of the main reasons I was drawn to move to TN. I would come here every year from flat water Florida, to the glorious mountains of E. TN to paddle the rivers.   I will tell you that there are quite a few different styles of kayaks, and you really need to decide what kind of kayaker you want to be. You cannot take a kayak designed for the lake down a whitewater river, and you will be miserable taking a whitewater kayak on a lake since it would be sluggish and have a tendency to turn all the time.   Here are the basic styles of kayaks. try to figure out what is your main goal and go from there. Fishing (will have rod holders and a place to put fish and tackle) Touring / Lakes (will be a long boat  and have a keel to help you go straight and fast) Whitewater - Playboat (will be very short with very little volume. designed for whitewater "tricks") Whitewater - River Runner (mid-sized boat to just have fun paddling down rivers) Whitewater - Creek Boat (big faty boat with lots of volume to help stay on top of the water)   If you wanted a boat that could be taken on whitewarer or a lake, I would look at the River Runner style. It will be great on rivers, and just OK on a lake. It will not be good to fish from, however.   Figure out where you want to end up paddling, and go to a place that sells kayaks, and talk to them about what you want. The demo day that was mentioned above is a fantastic idea.   CraigsList is  a great place to find boats too and you can save a lot of money. Flatwater kayaks will probably be in good shape. You'll need to scrutinize a whitewater kayak a bit more, since it will likely have lots of scratches and gouges from rocks. Whitewater kayakers tend to be committed to the sport and will keep doing it (its an adrenaline rush addiction that can't be shaken), so there may not be as many of those used boats. Flatwater kayakers will often buy the boats, use them a time or two, and then they sit in their garage taking up space.   Whatever you decide, get out on the water and have fun.

  You definatly have one more collectable than your standard Ruskie 91/30, the Remingtons are fairly rare.

OS, I did in MD when I was stationed there. As a general note, wouldn't accountability by legislators be great? Not just the occasional loss at the ballot but true accountability? For example in this case, if this program costs the taxpayers 1million, take it from the party itself and put it in the budget. I know that it's rhetorical because I'm sure there are folks that feel the law was still successful because in their mind any gun law is. I will say in MD the electric company ( co-op) would send a check back to the bill payers after the FY from the profits. Other than that, nothing else positive I can think of from there.

I turned 18 in June of 1980. Back then the revised requirement was all over the news and was a pretty big deal for us guys. Those of us who were 18 had pretty fresh memories of the mandatory draft and Vietnam. I was at a party where some obnoxious girl was talking about equality and blah blah blah... I distinctly remember telling her that when she was equal enough to be required to go get killed for the country that I would start worrying a lot more about her equality. I guess my viewpoint was a little distorted. I grew up knowing many successful women business owners. Those women's didn't sit around and cry about equality, they just went out and took it for themselves. For me, competency has never been about sex or race. It has been, oddly enough, about competency...

  It's illegal to possess a loaded firearm in Tennessee, how simple is that? Everything that does allow you do that is a defense, an affirmative defense, or exception to that basic tenet.   As per Worriedman's comment, which often requires lawyers. It is not in the interest of the trial lawyer lobby to have crystal clear laws with no wiggle room.   - OS

I can't blame them for not wanting to sell to a Canadian. You guys are always trying to slip your quarters into our cash registers and vending machines.... Just kiddin you

  There is more wisdom in this post than you even intended. Think on this the next time you hear / see / read / experience LEO INaction.

  Yes.  Here they are... http://czcustom.com/CZ_75-CZ_85-Thin-Coco-Bolo-Grips.aspx   I also replaced the factory magazine break with this one, http://czcustom.com/CZ_75-CZ_85-SP01Solid-Mag-Break.aspx  which allows the mags to drop free.   And I use the 11.5# hammer spring and extended firing pin needed to go with the lighter spring, both offered by Cajun Gun Works.

  +1 Deadly force is deadly force.  Once justified...gun, vehicle, ink pen jammed through the eye...doesn't matter.    This one looked "Justified" to me.  Actually, this is one incident that I didn't think would get much debate here. Once in awhile, cops do some really dumb #### (South Carolina anyone?) and I'm not one to defend them.   However, this same suspect walks onto your property, doing what he was doing...what would YOU do in a matter of seconds? Now, you're the person charged with the protection of that area...same question.  BTW, did you notice the innocent pedestrian at the corner?  Not Monday morning quarterbacking, but just to make a point, it could be argued that action could have come sooner.   Anyway, the internet (and TGO) is full of "SHTF / End of Days / I would have done this" threads and dreams.   Sometimes it needs to be done in real life.  Some of us have.  It's never pretty.

  I have a steel gun to show my friends. I have a plastic gun to show my enemies :)   When I was young, there was no such thing as a plastic gun... no shit.

I like the forward assist integration but the whole ambidex selling points are pretty much useless except to 5% of the population.  Seems like a lot of added costs

I have bought my mother and wife both guns. Both times they were with me at the store. Both times I plainly asked the clerk "Who does the 4473? I am buying this for her." Both times, different stores, the clerk told me "You are paying, you are doing the 4473. You are gifting the gun."   My understanding on what makes a Straw Purchase is if you are buying the gun with the knowledge that the other person is otherwise legally prevented from purchasing the gun themselves, and obviously you are using their money.   This is also clearly explained on the 4473 if you read the definition of Question 11.a. "However, if Mr. Brown goes to buy a firearm with his own money to give to Mr. Black as a present, Mr. Brown is the actual transferee/buyer of the firearm and should answer “YES” to question 11.a."

I'm out on McGraw. When is Metallica coming to TN again?

That officers actions were actually inline with use of force matrices and justified. It doesn't matter whether the offender is rational or irrational, i.e. Mentally ill, he is an active threat. Discussions on how and when to use a patrol car as a blunt weapon aren't new, nor is their use as such. Having the stones and wherewithal to actually know when you've absolutely got to do what the officer in question did and then doing so are what's rare.

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Did you all not know what you were going to get after the first four seasons? Why all the bitching? There has been murder, nudity, sex, more murder, more sex, etc since Season 1. This should not be a surprise at this point. Be libertarian about it. If you don't want to watch it don't watch it.   If you're feeling more moral than most then you should have cancelled HBO long ago...

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