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Picked up a CZ 75 B tonight at Bud's in Sevierville (it's probably not good for me that this place is only a little over a hour away...). Both Mechanically and Jonnin graciously offered to let me come down to Chattanoga and take a look at theirs, but from everything they said and what I've read about this gun the last couple of days, I couldn't wait. Had been thinking about the 2075 RAMI, but those are hard to find. And after holding the 75 in in my hand, it was a done deal. To me, this is just one of those classic guns that I couldn't leave without. So thanks to my Chattanooga friends for turning me on to the CZ brand - probably won't be my last. Something about a metal gun. WIth my Sig p238 now for pocket carry, I could easily see me getting rid of all my polymer eventually...

I think, and will have to verify, that the GA could override a veto in the next year, as it is still this General Assembly (109th Session of), odd years are just part of the same session that ends in even numbered years.  He would get his spanking in January, he will not do that I don't think. Made a call, I was correct, next January is simply an extension.  Even my bill HB0410, (Elder Abuse bill taking "aggravated stalking" to a Class E Felony from a misdemeanor) while relegated to Finance sub in both houses, is still alive and I do not have to start over (rolled to the first calender of Finance next year).  "Uncertainties" at the end of an even numbered years is a death knell, but this year Parks survives to be overridden if the squishy governor vetoes.

When I was young I had plastic guns, now they are made with steel.

  It's big. To put it simply, you can carry in any city or county park, rec area, greenway, whatever. The "opt out" option for local gummit to prohibit such included in 39-17-1311 will be zapped. You can of course already carry in any state park.   Technically, seems you could even carry in coliseums/arenas that are dedicated to rec events, as most are, and shouldn't be posted as normal buildings under 39-17-1359, but that's a gray area that wasn't apparently even discussed in the whole shebang.   It will still be prohibited to carry in "immediate vicinity" of school activity within a park, another gray area, but one that probably won't cause any hassles at all, at least for concealed carry folks. :)   Assuming he doesn't veto it. Since he likely wouldn't do it until legislature adjourns, would almost certainly mean would have to start over from scratch next session, and anything could happen by then. This seems as about as good a change as we could get, and I'm frankly quite surprised it made it at all.   - OS

A Straw Purchase is a criminal offense. It is as hard to stop as any other crime. But it is usually harder to prove until another crime has been committed. If criminals want guns; they will get them. They will walk up and take them or they will wait until you are not home and they will kick your door in and take them. I’m not against background checks I just don’t think they stop criminals from getting guns. They are more about politicians saying “At least we are doing something”, and putting cash in gun dealers and the state pockets.

This is the element which has a huge impact on the rights of law abiding citizens. They make it easier for criminals to obtain legally purchased firearms. The fee income obviously offsets the risk of federal charges, legal cost and the risk of doing business with criminals who are violent since they are acquiring firearms as their work tools. Interesting business model, I'll pass... Now add in the face to face transaction with a seller who doesn't care who they sell to as long as they have valid ID. Trolling around outside the guns shows, facebook/armslist and swap meets trying to make a quick buck. I don't have a solution. Making it harder for everyone to legally purchase doesn't change anything, it can't affect face to face, it certainly won't decrease the number of guns stolen by criminals and it will not have an impact of sales other than increasing cost and taking longer to actually take possession of your new firearm. FWIW, I try to ensure I don't contribute to the problem and only buy and sell ftf with folks who are well known to me either directly or through a friend.

I'm kind of surprised there has been any debate at all on this. It no big secret that I am extremely suspicious and distrustful of police, yet even I don't see any problem with what this officer did. The job of a cop makes this individual to be less likely to be in the right, but in this case, he did what any other citizen would have been justified in doing.

They should mark these satire sites better. Raises my blood pressure every time.

  There isn't one for "immediate vicinity" of having ammunition near unloaded firearm either, but one can logically assume it would be determined to be quite close.   I'd say it joins the considerable list of things not to worry about. The tennis team shows up, don't watch them from courtside, whatever.   - OS

  It wouldn't be fair to mass killers to have good guys with guns anywhere around the kids.   - OS

He had committed a robbery, home invasion, vehicle theft, firearm theft and was an active shooter holding a rifle. Since no one was going to walk up on him and he was refusing all orders to comply; the next logical escalation of force would be to shoot him before an innocent walks into the scenario and gets shot or he shoots a cop. You think hitting him with a car was more reckless than opening fire? I don’t.

I wrangled with the cost question for 20+ years, and never did nothing.  When Sandy happened, and there was no ammo to be had, I threw out the concern, and went with the model if I want to shoot, then I need the supplies, tools, and know how to reload.  I dove in and spent well over $1,500 in dies, presses, tumblers, and supplies within 2-3 weeks of Sandy.   Fast forward to now, I went from 0 experience to a shade tree guy with basic skills virtually over night.  I can reload for all of my pistols and rifles (except 22 of course).   My mileage meter says that I have reloaded ~3,000 rounds on a single press spread over many calibers and straight to necked brass.  I only reload what I plan to shoot, with no extras.   So reflecting, from a cost point of view:  If I do not factor in my investment costs of the press, dies, tumbler or the cost the brass, and just focus on the expendable costs of the bullet and powder, it becomes very close if not slightly better than what I can pay for ammo at my locally Walmart.  But I will tell you, the experience, the time, and sure focus of the mind, is very relaxing and rewarding, more than I expected, and that was not even a consideration at the time.  I wished I had discovered this hobby 20 years ago, instead of considering if it saved me pennies.

There's nothing like an all metal gun with a SA/DA trigger and an hammer. I'm biased, but I think the CZ 75 is the closest model to getting it perfect. Have you shot it yet? That's when you'll be the most pleased with your decision.

I like the forward assist integration but the whole ambidex selling points are pretty much useless except to 5% of the population.  Seems like a lot of added costs

I have more than 30 years experience dealing with guns as well as ample retail management and loss prevention experience. I have spent literally hundreds if not thousands of hours at gun shows, gun stores, and pawn shops. I have also assisted several FFLs with their businesses and worked for them on numerous occasions. In all this time I have never once witnessed a straw sale or an attempt at such, and I have only met one private seller that seemed a little shaky with a deal that was too good to be true, so I declined to purchase that gun although I had no proof of anything being wrong.   My view is that it is FAR more common for customers to be shopping with relatives or friends, and commenting on the products or giving each other advice, and possibly loaning each other money or buying each other gifts. And that it is quite rare for criminals to attempt straw sales in most FFL shops, except possibly for those located in or near high crime areas with a low median income population. I can't tell you how many times I have personally gone to a gun store with a friend or family member to help them pick something out, often checking the guns, features, and prices and then giving them advice, with them making the purchase in the end. This might have appeared to be a straw sale to some observers but it was nothing illegal, just normal adult behavior. The same happens for other retail goods including electronics, jewelry, cars, etc. and we don't think anything of it.   I think the true straw sale attempts (those done by criminals with criminal intent) are much more obvious, and any responsible FFL would and should decline such transactions, but even then the rejected buyers are most likely to just go to another shop and repeat the purchase in a different manner so as not to be accused or detected. If you look at most of the actual crime studies and reports that have been done over the years, you will see that most crimes are committed with guns that were stolen or illegally obtained via other means, and that true "straw sales" are a very small percentage of the problem.   So I agree that the background checks and many restrictive firearms laws are not really protecting us from anything or doing any real good, other than to give the average citizen (who is most often totally ignorant of gun features, issues, crime stats, and laws) a false sense of security. Many of the current BATFE / GCA laws and restrictions did not exist prior to 1968, and yet the world was not a criminal hell on earth, and there was not a blood bath in the streets on a daily basis, and crime was not significantly impacted either way before or since. I also believe that most people are inherently honest, law abiding citizens with good intent, and that they wouldn't deliberately or knowingly provide a criminal with a firearm or other weapon regardless of the legality of doing so, so I wish we could just repeal all gun laws and restrictions. This would ultimately lower the price and increase the availability of firearms for the masses, who are mostly good folk, so the net benefit would by definition be mostly good.

  Hopefully, he'll just not sign it, letting it become law as he did with change to preemption statute last session.   My rep, Smith, has done the "present not voting" thing on this all along. I presented the case to him that the TN Constitution says that only the Legislature has the right to enact laws regarding the wearing of arms. I do not believe that allowing local control "by proxy" of a state statute such as 1311 is within the intent of that.   - OS

      Scruffy looking nerfherders, thank you very much.    :)

WARNING - this thread is completely useless without pictures ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvxI9O3DcTQ

I think one should honor one's contracts.   However, like house or car payments, perhaps NFA would refi if you contact them.   - OS

  It's illegal to possess a loaded firearm in Tennessee, how simple is that? Everything that does allow you do that is a defense, an affirmative defense, or exception to that basic tenet.   As per Worriedman's comment, which often requires lawyers. It is not in the interest of the trial lawyer lobby to have crystal clear laws with no wiggle room.   - OS

Evidently Charles Sargent did, Chairman of House Finance, Ways and Means Committee.  They funded a lot of stuff that was over $100K, like $120Million for a new Museum Downtown, but hey, Museums write a lot of checks to campaign funds...

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Congrats! A CZ-75b was my first handgun. Here it is, manufactured in '96. Once you get familiar with it you might wish to check out http://czcustom.com/ and http://cajungunworks.com/ . Lots of goodies that will turn an already fine handgun into an excellent range gun / competition ready pistola.

Then you'll need another CZ so that you'll have a dedicated lower for the Kadet. I've got mine on a 40P lower (same as P-01) and its shoots like a dream. All the goodness of a CZ with even less recoil.

  Unfortunately, I haven't had a chance to yet.  It will probably be Friday before I can.  I'll definitely give a follow-up when I do.  I always have this paranoid fear that I'll be the one guy that gets the lemon and winds up with a jam-o-matic...  :nervous: But from everything I've read about this gun, and from the way it feels in my hand, I'm expecting nothing but 9mm bliss.

I've never used a forward assist so I'm not so sure that is a selling point. The MSRP is funny though.

Congrats on  your new pistola.  :up:

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People are crazy for this gun because it's a new Glock. Hell, Glock put out a .380 that was as large as several 9mm options, and the fanbois still trampled all over each other to get one before they even it the shelves. Like the G42, you'll see many of the G43's hitting the secondary market almost as fast as they left the store shelves. Many will quickly realize that they only THOUGHT they just had to have the 43.

When he said the price I had to stop myself from telling him they were crazy lol. Im also a certified CNC machinist so I know what it takes to design, CAD/CAM, materials, ect....and it shouldn't be that much lol 

Grease the rails, the barrel lugs and the end of the barrel. If it continues you can polish the breech face with some 2,000 grit sandpaper. Also check the extractor to make sure the bottom of the hook has a bevel to it.

  Of course not. That would have required actual firearm knowledge. ;)   - OS

I hear a lot of "nobody notices open carry", "you could carry a howitzer and most wouldn't notice", etc. I think most of those folks are actually "almost" carrying concealed, with service size heater or smaller tight to side with at least a shirt covering half of it or more.   Carrying a gat completely open with tucked in shirt and no jacket or whatever is going to be noticed, simple as that. I know because I've done it, and have gotten that attention. By what overall percentage depending on size of the thing and whatnot is debatable, but doesn't matter to me if it's only 1 in 20, I simply don't want the attention.   I also hear the "it's so much more comfortable" and "most expedient way to deploy" claims, and there's a lot of truth in that -- however, whether you mean it as such or not, a completely exposed roscoe is also an attention getting statement. And gawd knows based on the appearance of some folks I see doing it, not one that conveys a positive image to the average John Q in any way, either. (I'll include myself in that category at times, btw).   All that being said, of course I support your right to do it. But I'll stay in gray man mode myself, for a variety of reasons.   - OS

Governor has 10 days to sign after receiving the bill.  If he does not sign within those 10 days it becomes law.   This one is effective immediately (as soon as it becomes law), the public welfare requiring it.

A group of film junkies put together the despecialzed versions of the original trilogy. They don't sell it... Free for anyone who has purchased the films in any other format. Read the part about how they got all the original pieces together and in HD. http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Harmys-STAR-WARS-Despecialized-Edition-HD-V25-MKV-IS-OUT-NOW/topic/12713/

I've heard several times that it's not smart to mess with an old man. When they're too old to fight and too slow to run, their only option is to kill you.

If you like the Tennessee drivers go to South Florida and try your luck! 

We all respect the right to do it, we just think it is not always wise.

You're incorrect on two fronts. First, the phrase "well-regulated militia" at the time of the writing meant "well trained." Second, the entire phrase within which it is contained, "A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state," is a subordinate clause and seeks to support or clarify the main clause, not place conditions upon it. The authors of the Constitution understood the need for our newly formed country to maintain a standing army, as repugnant as the idea was to many of them. And since the idea of a standing army was objectionable to them, they secured in writing the right of the people (not the militia) to keep and bear arms. In other words, background checks are in no way consistent with the wording nor the intent of the 2nd Amendment.

I guess all those felons will make sure to go the local FFL and do a background check before they go rob the corner liquor store, or go gang-bangin in the hood. smh

Think Jedi's ever did bayonet charges? My little one decided his light saber needed a bayonet. :)

I think President Reagan was a visionary to implement he Star Wars program :)

Ok...I'm old and gonna show it. The orginal Star Wars movies are the only ones worth watching for me. Tried the " First 3 Episodes" and was bored out of my mind. Didn't like them at all.   So sue me.

have you played the republic commando video game? its awesome!

What sucks for me is the books of the expanded universe. I've read a little over 200 of the paper back novels and it does as any other book will do.....ruin movies. It's not so much the actual movie that's ruined. It's the ability of the characters. Even Yoda is a bit of a candy ass by comparison to force users in the expanded universe. If you think Yoda had a hard time fighting Darth Sidious, try reading about Bane. Bane could have killed both of them. Other Sith Lords such as Darth Caedus makes Anakin look like an alter boy. Darth Caedus by the way was first known as Jacen Solo. Eldest son of Han and Leia. There was a Jedi (can't recall his name right now) who pulled a starship out of a star using nothing but the force. Hmph, and poor little Luke struggled with his fighter stuck in the mud. I hope, I hope, I hope!!!! They take the expanded universe into account with the new movie. After Luke reaches the age of about 50 he is a BAD SUMM BEECH! He completely redesigns the Jedi Order and does away with all the silly BS of the old order. He can actually use the Dark Side without succumbing to it. It was a long struggle though. My biggest fear of the new movies is that they will botch the Mandalorians completely. Boba brings them back to the forefront and they are feared by the whole of the Galaxy once more. Mandalore is a thriving planet again and Mandalmotors builds the finest fighters and weaponry money can buy. Ohh damn, someone hand me a mop, my nerd spilled out everywhere.

Just like the original movies were remade to add special effects I have hope the newer ones will one day be remade to remove Jar Jar.

You didn't just get a good deal...you stole that thing! Congrats on a great buy! Of course it didn't happen unless we see some pictures. This thread should also be moved to the C&R section. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Trimmed the pistol grip down this morning.... still a few tweaks away, but I'm on the right track.

I grew up in far west Chicago for the first 6 years of my life. It was a dangerous town to live in back in the 50's and 60's  during my time there also. There was killings every night and late at night while laying in my bed I could hear gun shots. Mayor Richard Daley ran the city with an Iron fist yet the killings still continued. The only real difference I see in Chicago is the news media's. Back when I was a kid and listened to the news on TV they would discuss all the news. Not pick and choose what to discuss. All of the news medias today are controlled by politics. They pick and choose what to discuss and share. Guns are at the forefront because of all the new gun laws going on across the country.   When I lived up there my parents move me to the country almost out of Cook county and we were far enough west that I spent most of my life with friends that lived on farms. I began hunting small game by age 8 and we lived in a town named Lemont. It was so far west that two miles down the road I lived on was the Will County Line.   During those times gun laws were very relaxed in Illinois. By age 10 I was able to walk into our small town gun store and purchase a single action 6 22cal Colt pistol with a 4.5 inch barrel and western style holster package and my buddy bought a Ruger Single action 22 cal 6 shot with a 6.5 inch barrel and a western style holster.  We bought these guns without any ID's but the gun store owner new both of us well. We had bought Shotguns from him for small game hunting and all of our ammo from him.   My buddy that still lives up there but has moved out of Cook County and lives more in mid state now still enjoys his trap and skeet shoots and his small game and now also big game hunting. He and his two sons now also have CC permits but they never go to Chicago.   My point is Illinois was not always a suck a$$ state to live in. If you got out of the city of Chicago it was a great state to hunt and fish in...................JM.......... :2cents: