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I got to fly with my grandfather back in 2003. He had a bunch of combat missions in one as a pilot over Europe, and then flew hundreds of missions in an H model dropping life boats over the Pacific. He was 83 years old and on a walker due to breaking his hip, but the evening before was commenting on whether or not we'd have to pull ourselves up through the hatch like they did when they had a full load. The next morning, that plane pulled onto the tarmac at John C. Tune with its Pratt and Whitneys roaring in all their glory. He tossed his walker to the side and walked up to that plane like he was 20 again. The pilots were as honored to have him on board as he was to be there. They put the navigator's chair down and a space for him in the cockpit. On the taxi out and takeoff roll you could see his head and the pilot's turning in sync as they both went through preflight checks. To the day I die, that will be one of my most cherished memories.

I'll be praying for y'all!

This pc crap is getting very old. I was hoping Popeye would got the other way and get more badass with age

Next he'll probably have transgender surgery covered by obamacare

Good grief.  A group of high school folks got together and did what has been TRADITION for hundreds of years and asked publicly for forgiveness if they had wronged anyone, stated they forgave anyone that had done them wrong and were thankful they got to eat.  They thanked their version of providence, but anyone in the crowd could have thanked aliens, the devil, budda or Pee Wee Herman for where they believe it came from.    No one held at gunpoint, no be-headings and NO issues from within the group, only outsiders with the means to propagate their own daily bread by stirring the pot.   I think some of you would turn down a bottle of water in the desert if someone said God led them to bring it to you. 

Perhaps we should stone the principal, tie him to a herd of feral goats, and send him into the Pocket Wilderness. That's show him for informing those girls how to exercise their rights.

    It's easy to afford a $240 knife.  Without the GF you will find you have LOTS of money to spend on cool stuff.  And just think this knife will not nag or whine.  It doesn't mind if you go out with any of your other knives.  You can have more than one by your side at anytime without worrrying about jealousy.  It doesn't care if you leave it in the drawer for months.   It won't complain if you fondle it in public.  It's all WIN...

  It can be difficult, and it is in this case.  For those who deny the existence of a God or use another name like Allah, Jehovah, YHWH (or Yahweh)...et al, it doesn't work.    Setting aside the objections of non-believers since I know that isn't taken into high account here...this situation has a public school (aka: a government institution) pushing a specific Christian God- take it or leave it.  That's a no-go when you account for the source and the ACLU knows a winning case when they have one.

Just arrived today, a Bat M dual port with a Lilja 1-10" x31" 1.3 dia. The stock is a McMillan MBR and it's chambered in a 300 WM the scope is a NF 12-42 BR model. So far it seems to like 74 grns H-1000 but I'll stretch it out in the morning at 500 yards to verify. Even at 28# pushing the 230 grn match hybrids, it has a hefty kick.

A friend of mine had a custom made knife that his father gave to him years ago and this past hunting season I ended up using it a few times and really liked most aspects of it. I am fairly ignorant when it comes to knife making lingo but did my best to convey what I wanted and between that and a sketch he hit the nail on the head. If anyone wants a beautiful handmade knife do not hesitate to contact Grand Torino. here's a few pictures.

  Your link was about the name of Popeye's nemesis.  I'm talking about how there is no proof to back up the title of the thread, "Now the libs are going after Popeye."

I don't know about you all, but if the principal came to me and suggested I do something, I would take it to mean that's what I must do.  Just like if my boss came to me and said, I'd like you to work overtime on a project.  To me, he is just telling me in a nice way, that I must work overtime. From what I've read here, the Principal was in the wrong, and as a representative of the Government (in this case the School System), so was the School System.   Had a parent gone to the cheerleaders and suggested it, then there is no problem here.  Nor would there have been a problem with the cheerleaders themselves getting together and coming up with it.  That's a student led prayer and protected.  But that's not what I have read.

All the wars we have had were started over what we are talking about now. Many more will be started (some are still going on today) till we all accecpet the fact that, There is just one race, the Human Race, till then I pray ever day, I thank my God for another day to be with yall, good, bad, and indifferent, God bless.

I would definitely recommend this knife over a girlfriend.

I consider WASR the Remmy 870 or Mossy 500 of the AK world. They just work.   They seem to have sobered up the folks in Cugir and Vermont over the last year or more, as you seldom hear of the canted sights/blocks now, and the magazine well enlargement seems to be more consistent. They have also been configured with real solid wood stocks and handguns for some time now instead of the plywood.   A late convert to AK world myself, I liked the first one so much I got another. At about the same price as a new Glock in hand, I consider them among the best bargains in gundom. And much more accurate than the average AR sycophant would have you believe.   - OS

What's the politically correct version of " How effing stupid can you get?".

Absolutely it makes a difference. As I said in an earlier post, the point of the establishment clause in the first amendment was to prevent the Federal Government from establishing a National (referred to at that time as a "State") religion. When the constitution and bill of rights were enacted, several states had a "State religion".   There is a BIG difference between Federal, State, and County governments. The fact the lines are being blurred between them is a large part of our problem today.   The federal government has NO business in the education business. I could make an argument that other governments don't either, but I am in the minority on that opinion.

I find it amusing how some who often complain about the size and overreach of government want to use that behemoth to intervene on their behalf and put a stop to speech they find offensive.    I know I certainly feel better that my tax dollars are being used to employee bureaucrats who will police such functions to make sure nobody is offended by any religious speech.  ;)

Then the Jeep will be a Pomeranian, Brutus won't be a bully and Olive Oyl will have C cups....to help her self esteem....sheesh!

  They get it from David here in the vendor forum.

I'm not convinced that's what's going on here at all. The ACLU whined about it being on the speakers so the school stopped. Problem solved. If the cheerleaders want to do their thing, then there is no problem. If everyone else wants to join in, that's cool too. Even if some of those people are school employees. So long as there is no coercion from school officials, I don't see anything other than people expressing their 1st Amendment rights. Now, if some Muslim kid wants to use that moment to pray, that's cool too. If other Muslims want to join in, by all means. But I'm calling BS on the notion that since so many people are participating, it is exclusionary to other faiths and non-believers. Being in a majority doesn't negate the 1st Amendment anymore than being in the minority. I interpret the reaction of those who take issue with this as being upset that others might "feel" excluded or uncomfortable. That doesn't trump ANYONE'S right to exercise the 1st Amendment. I've spent many years in several Muslim countries too. I've also spent more time than I care to admit in the northeast part of the country. So I've been to my share of Catholic and Muslim weddings and funerals. Almost all of those involved religious ritual amongst the followers. Anyone who has been to a Catholic wedding knows what I'm talking about with all the standing and kneeling. Muslims have their own rituals, especially at funerals. I may have felt out of place in those crowds, but never excluded or uncomfortable. They believe what they believe, and I believe what I believe. Now, before you tear me apart by pointing out that these were religious events which I willingly attended, my point is simply that a person's feeling of being excluded due to another person practicing a belief has nothing to do with the person practicing their belief; it has to do with the person who feels excluded. Anyone who is firm in their beliefs should not be concerned with another person practicing theirs. That's just silly. On another note, is anyone going to point out the skirts these cheerleaders are wearing? Maybe the community I went to school in was more religious, but there is no way Jesus approves the length of those skirts. Is this the norm now? Not to be a prude, but no way would I be cool with my daughter going anywhere dressed like that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I still check around on Armslist every so often looking for a unicorn, and the ARs are still listing for more than they're worth. Not sure if they're actually selling at those prices or if they're just hoping for a sucker. I've built several ARs this past year for friends, and have walked them through selecting which parts they want to have on there and it has never been cheaper. Hell, it's cheaper now to get whole and parted ARs on the commercial market than it was to buy a garbage neutered AR15 over 15 years ago. Trust me.... I bought an Oly Arms during the ban in the late 90s. With the deals running nonstop online, it is stupid cheap to buy an entry level AR, or build one with all the bells and whistles. Commercial sales can't possibly get lower. As far as bubba goes, I think we've seen the end of the great purge. Whatever bubba went and put on his credit card during early 2013 is long been sold. I don't see the civilian market going down with the exception of the occasional desperate seller. I can still build a new rifle for cheaper than 90% of the used ones I've seen listed (which are entry level). The rest which folks have kitted out with expensive to fast items are a different story. There are probably a lot of good deals on those types of rifles, since they're having to compete in a market where many buyers just want a basic AR, and may be willing to pony up a few extra dollars for gimmick gadgets, but not break the bank. As for the elections, you'll see those prices start to climb well before November '16, especially if the Hillary is looking like she might win. I'm surprised we haven't seen a slow rise right now so close to midterm, but I'm sure there will be a run in November, then a huge spike in January if the Dems take the House. If not, folks may enjoy another year and a half of these low prices on ARs/AKs and standard capacity mags. My suggestion to everyone I talk to who wants an AR but can't afford one is to buy up several lowers. They'll be grandfathered, most likely, if there is a ban, which means you can hang on to it and build it later. It's what I've been doing, but they keep turning into rifles. It'll be nice to have later on down the road so my kids can still get their own ARs. Plus, if you get a stack of lowers, they will skyrocket in value later if a ban goes into effect. Don't know how much a pre ban lower goes for in California, but I know they ain't cheap. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Wood for the trees, people...   The root of the problem? State run schools.   And school athletic programs, come to that.

I'm not buying the low income is excluded argument, especially when the "low income" folks are carrying smart phones, watching flat screen TVs, wearing designer trainers, and eating steak out on their EBT cards. If it's a priority, they can get it. 

The fact is that the school system can neither condone nor repress student prayer... They cannot initiate it, nor (...i think...) participate in it, lest it give the appearance of endorsement... The fact is that the cheerleaders can, indeed, pray and so can any or all of the students... It's the First Amendment in action and it has already been ruled on...   The Tennessee ACLU well knows that and they are just tryin to bully the school; and they can, the administrators, that is... They can't stop student lead prayer and they well know it...   As some other folks have said very well, those who are against this sort of thing are just tryin to bully and scare a bunch of kids; which, by the way, is against the law... What these idiots and bullys are tryin to do is nothin less than what the Nite Riders did after the civil war...   These sons and daughters of satan need to leave these kids alone before someone catches them doin some of this "intimidatin" and gives them exactly what they are askin for...   These folks are guilty, at the mininum of assault, which is a legal matter.... They also are guilty of tryin to push around someone's precious child; which is another matter all together... Oneida aint Nashville, and the indigenous natives may well take this matter very seriously themselves in a vigilantte way; and im perfectly ok with that... If there were more beatings for saying and doing stupid things, there would be less stupid actions....   As to you 'uncommitted' and unprayin folks; if these sons of b***es can make a bunch of kids quit praying thru intimidation; what makes you think they can't do the same to you...?   Our prayers are with you Oneida Cheerleaders, Students, and Families.... So are our shillelagh's too...  Ya that aint into prayin; just bring the shillelagh's...   leroy

I stumbled across this and although I am not an SKS aficionado I do know there are some here. This IS the most comprehensive gathering of pictures the SKS that I have ever seen.   Here is a detailed listing of what is on each of the 46 webpages of information. http://www.yooperj.com/SKS.htm   And here is page 1. http://www.yooperj.com/SKS-1.htm

Just saw the new "politically correct" version of Popeye. No more pipe or anchor tattoo.

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  And he still as bigger balls than most of us.

Oh, I would say that you are correct. I did not realize that it was Bo*****.

  The link I posted not seem fairly definitive as to reason?  I saw others that looked to have similar explanation, but on dialup right now so can't hop around very fast.   - OS

Clearly you've never read the TN state constitution huh?   First, even if you were correct that the state constitution didn't have an establishment clause (it does)...  the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution which TN (kinda) ratified after the civil war binds the states to recognize all privileges or immunities under the federal constitution.   So while pre-civil war some states did have state religions...  all of that ended once the 14th Amendment was ratified (and in virtually all cases had ended before that).   BUT, TN does have a state constitution which prohibits the exact same...   Section 3 of the TN Constitution:     So, here we have a government school created by law that is giving preference to a specific religion and a specific mode of worship.  Clear a violation under the TN Constitution as well.   Please, if you're going to make an argument please have your facts straight.    

typical response.  Do it our way or stay home.

Starting selling ammo maybe 10-12 mos ago, and guns in April or May. Here is a snapshot from their fb page: [URL=http://s963.photobucket.com/user/runco0318/media/smkwguns_zps1e5836ae.jpg.html][/URL]

I always thought he was Bluto, too. But it seems like aloof the cartoons we've watched lately have him renamed.

This knife will not complain if you post its picture on the internet.

Whew.... Had me worried, I thought you meant Popeye's. (Love their jambalaya bowl.  :yum:  )

I have been wanting to do this for a while now and finally received most of the Parts for my Mini Draco today First I want to say I still have not received My side folding Adapter from ACE Therefore I must give a Huge thank you to " Dolomite_Supafly " He sent me a pignose adapter to use till ACE decides I am important enough to receive my Side folding mechanism. Without him I would not have be able to complete this at all I started off with a Mini draco purchased from JGsales which happened to come with a free drum :D Today Most of My parts arrived I plan on doing a sidefolding Pistol brace with the SB15 rather than the sb47 pistol grip mounted, My main reasoning behind this Is I want to be able to fold the Pistol and fit it into a backpack or satchel , The Mini draco is very small and perfect for this so adding anything other than a sidefolder really wasn't an Option for this need, I am currently using The pignose adapter till the folding mechanism arrives. Since the pig nose and folding adapter will use the same holes to mount , I used the Pignose to mark the rear plate on the mini Then I drilled the holes to match the Bolts "I used 8/32 drill and tap and allen head bolts" After completing that I then moved onto the handgaurd As most of you know , as far as options go for the handgaurds on a mini draco there simply are only 2 at the moment The Hotdog bun that it comes with which is just putrid looking to me and the Cheese grater that Midwest industries released The Midwest industries mount is simply to small in My opinion and I wanted the option to remove or add rails if need I chose the Strike Industries Trax-1 Keymod Rail for these reasons However the Trax-1 isnt designed to be mounted on a mini draco so I had to chop the barrel clamp Used to mount the Bottom rail and, notch the top of the rail to fit around the front sight Post I also installed Parrabellum AKARS Dustcover Rail mount Holosun Technologies Mini Reddot optic "hearing great things about this optic cant wait to test it out" Charging handle grip Magpul Pistol grip and AFG Below is what she looks Like now I havent had the chance to shoot it yet and may wait for my 4 pc Bulgarian Flash Hider and folder before doing so , Guess it depends how long It will take to arrive. I am extremely happy with this little weapon and will Update with new Pics when the Flash Hider and sider folder arrive Thanks again Dolomite ...Your a life saver! Updated Pics with Side folder Installed Really love this setup. It now fits into any of my small backpack and even a couple of my Laptop cases Once the 4pc Bulgarian brake Arrives I will be finished Very Excited and Happy with this little pistol

And I only had 1 more payment left and it would have been all mine.

Oh, I'm good, it wasn't too bad. I went to the Dr yesterday and my scans/bloodwork came back perfect so no more visit for 9 months. If that one's the same way, no more at all  :rock:  So chiggers are nothing when you have news like that!   Thanks for the feedback. I shot with them today to make sure my poi wasn't way off. They shoot smooth and I actually shot better with them. It could be that my aluminum arrows were kinda wobbly from age, or could be mental since I know they are new. Either way I'll take it :)

12 guage slug will turn his lights out quick if placed in a critical spot.....  :)  A black bear was killed near Marquand, MO a couple of years ago with .22 long rifle.  The bear was eating dog food from storage shed and home owner feared for his life.  Conservation Agents ruled it a good shoot... No charges filed for taking the bear.

Follks keep conflating this issue beyond its simple nature. The principal orchestrated an organized prayer. No one is "taking your religion" - and its well established that individual prayer is protected. The problem is the school (ie the government) led a specific denominational prayer. And that is NOT legal or appropriate no matter how many times you say it is. And how is it so difficult for some of you to see the principals statement does not take away or contradict what the cheerleader said. Its not like she said the principal did not make the request. And he is on record in his OWN words on that, so you can stop the nonsense that there is a contradiction

The principal publicly stated he directed the prayer over the PA. No one is questioning the cheerleaders veracity. The problem here begins and ends with the principal. If the cheerleaders on their own want to pray - no problem If the entire stand wants to pray and then do a wave or two - no problem Its a problem when the school itself gets in on the act. Simple

There are some pretty nutty Comments being made here. Some of you should read what you wrote slowly and out loud to realize how outlandish they are

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As long as you don't care if a bunch of Muslims pray to Allah before the game while everyone else waits as well, I am cool with it. I also am not religious. In fact, I am pretty anti-religion, but as long as everyone can do it equally, then no issue for me. I don't personally believe that any religion has any place in public/government events, but it also doesn't bother me if someone wants to pray before a game. I think where most of us non-believers get tickled is when the hypocrisy is so I obvious. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

LOL.......

I don't like it. I think part of the representation of the law is to represent uniformity, to look like the law. We have police all across the country coming up win all kinds of tactical uniforms that remind me of third world military's. Someone could mistake this trooper for the slime ball they are looking for. Don't get me wrong, I hope they find this loser and coward quickly and should lock down the entire state if need be. I just think the law should look like he law, period.

I have a spare egyptian crutch folder i am planning on selling. Matching #s, parkerized with chrome bbl and a superb build. Won't be as cheap as the above rifles, but you can inspect and see the build quality in person. Sample pic - not sure if this is my keeper or spare, buy it can serve to give you and idea