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The truth of this whole sorry thing will never be known for a couple of reasons...   The first (...as others have opined, that it happened in Louisiana, which is, indeed a whole other country....); and second, because of the curious abridgement of a bedrock tennant of American law that moves the accused from "innocent until proven guilty"; to "guilty if someone says so"....  It's un-American on its face...   I know this is a touchy subject; but the whole "child protection" thing is out of hand; and has been for a long time... It basically suspends a bed rock tennant of American law under the guise of protecting the innocent...     There is not a day that goes by in any state in the union in which someone doesn't maliciously (...and falsely....) charge someone else with heinous wrongdoing with children or spouse; and then coaches the child to corroborate the lie...   Sometimes the charges are true... In lots of cases, they are not... This good-intentioned quirk of law designed to protect the vulnerable has been turned into a convenient vehicle for whipping, punishing, ruining, and tarring your estranged "siginficant other" with a very great amount of immunity for the accuser...   Whether or not the charges are true or not is of little consequences in most cases.... The law as written in most states basically allows a vehicle for vindictiveness and "get evenism" if your "significant other" moves from a pleasant to an un-pleasant mood; and tilts the playing field in their favor.... If you are accused, you are deemed guilty; and no amount of evidence to the contrary, save a re-canting of the story (...which aint likely due to the possibility of charges being leveled at the accuser...) will suffice for exhonoration...   Once you have been accused (...no matter the outcome...); you have the "Mark of Cain"... Any potential employer can (....and most likely, will...) do a Google search during any pre-employment screening and find any public document "charging" folks with crimes... It's in the public domain... If they find it (...and they will...),  the answer to potential employment is "no thanks"....   Being as that the divorce rate is about 50% in this country anyway; folks should think long and hard about this sort of stuff when they pick that "significant other" , especially if there is a previous divorce or a 'blended family" involved... You better know who that person is (...and be right about it...) before you enter into a family relationship with them and their family....   Lest ye "do gooders" and "children's advocates" (...which we should all be, by the way...) get up in arms over this... I'm neither convicting nor condoning here... I'm merely pointing out the great potential for abuse in a point of popular law that should have never come up in the first place.... And, "no" I don't like child molesters... I put them a couple of levels below the "get-even" and "vindictive" bunch... Yes, i have children... They are grown...   As you can all see, this is a "pet peeve" of mine... I'll shut up now....   leroy

  Yup. Official final action at the scene should have been "Sir, you're an idiot and free to go".   - OS

They clearly arrested and charged him with a crime he never committed. As a result, he lost his job, his home, and who knows what else. It's not like there was gray area that needed the assistance of the Supreme Court to decipher. There's no way the police or DA couldn't have made a 2 minute phone call to the BATFE to find out whether or no he was breaking the law. I believe, once they realized who he was, they were going to show him who was boss. That's not the job of law enforcement. Like most members of TGO, I'm not a fan of his. But I definitely don't like the thought of being arrested for doing something that others don't like or aren't comfortable with. Allowing that to happen creates a slippery slope. With that being said, I don't see him and his antics helping those of us who enjoy the already restricted firearms laws in any way. I wish he would stop.

  Which is why I said I don't really blame the cops so much -- however, the judge at first one of the early hearings wouldn't even accept admission of his NFA documents ... that's where would seem the clear liability would begin, and the scores really change.   - OS

Glad to see our brave crusader of justice is free to continue his campaign of righting wrongs.  Before I was concerned about my rights to carry an AR15 incased in kydex through downtown, but now I know I'm free to do so.  I will tell my grandchildren of this day. 

So here it is...my version of the recurved blade. It's 1/8" 1095 carbon steel heat treated professionally to RC59-60. As you can see it has nice large jimping to the front of the handle as well as within the handle on both the top and bottom. Even though the jimping is large it isn't rough on the fingers at all.The scales are cocobolo dymondwood and this thing if big.....right at 13" total length and a blade length of about 7". It has a nice long handle ....no wondering how your gonna grip it here. It has a lanyard hole and the handle is held on mechanically as well as with epoxy. The finish is very unique and I really like how it turned out. Truth be told it's so different I'm not sure I could even recreate it again if I tried. it seems very well balanced and I've very happy the way it turned out.

  I can't understand why some people are okay with government or police violating someones civil and Constitutional rights only because they don't like them or like their behavior. That is disrespect for the Constitution plain and simple. It's okay until their rights are violated in some way or the other. They can't be a champion of the Constitution and Bill Of Rights unless they defend everyones rights, not just a selected few.

[quote name="Sam1" post="1184197" timestamp="1409269886"]You know it's also legal to wear a ninja suit with a backpack, creep around the building and stare in the windows of the federal courthouse in Nashville at 2:30am. And just as I would agree that the ninja suit guy should be dealt with, Voldemort antagonizing the cops should be as well.[/quote] Liberty for me, but not thee? If it is legal, then how exactly do you suggest it "should be dealt with"? Using the government to "deal with" folks you don't like is a bad, bad road to go down. Remember, the government isn't very fond of us gun owners as a general rule. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

[quote name="mikegideon" post="1184180" timestamp="1409267381"]And, I think it's worth a few bucks to shut that douchebag down. So far, it's working pretty well.[/quote] Even if it was 100% free, using the police and courts against someone [b]who broke no laws[/b] simply for being a douchebag who does things you don't like is unconscionable. I get it, I think he is a piece dogshit too, it is still wrong to use the government as a weapon against him. Even though I don't believe in what he is doing and won't stand with him, I will stand against what the government did here every single time. If they can maliciously prosecute him, what's to stop them from maliciously prosecuting anyone else? It disappoints me that you would let personal animus cause you to chuck things like the rule of law over the port.

I would agree with you 100% on the bolded portion. Yet it is precisely because of that Metro needs to be sanctioned harshly. The reason is that they knew who he was and their actions were different because of that. It is a clear cut case of a selective and malicious application of the law against someone who was a disfavored person. Is he a douchebag and a giant pain in the ass? Abso-friggin-lutely. That does not grant the police the right to treat him any differently than anyone else or to maliciously pursue charges against him for a crime he did not commit. The cops & the DA don't get to prosecute someone to "teach them a lesson" as this case so clearly appears to be.  I don't live in Nashville and I am pissed at Metro because the assholes are making me have to defend that douchenozzle. Do you know how ####ing much that annoys the #### out of me?When dealing with a dickhead, don't act in such a manner as to put the dickhead in the right.

A woman calls the police late one night to report people in her shed stealing things. The dispatcher explains that they are very busy and there's no squad car in the area, but that they'll send someone over as soon as possible.  She hangs up and calls back a minute later to say: "You don't have to hurry now, because I shot them." Within a matter of minutes 6 squad cars, a dozen officers, a K-9 unit, plus helicopters and an armed response unit show up at her house and happen to catch the burglars red-handed. The officer in charge says to the woman: "I thought you said you'd shot them." She replies: "I thought you said you didn't have anyone available."

  Nothing "against the law" in this case. Being an idiot is not against the law.

  Not exactly.  He violated the law of common decency, an intangible concept that is up there with these "natural rights" everyone keeps harping on.  Wasn't really a problem in the past when we actually had some semblance of a society in which people made a conscious effort not to disturb everyone else.  Now it's every person for themselves, screw everyone else.

[quote name="mikegideon" post="1184188" timestamp="1409268435"]We will just have to disagree on this one. What has it cost so far to police all his antics? The government didn't go after him. He went after them. I think it was perfectly fine to bitch slap him, since he is, in fact, a bitch.[/quote] I think the real disconnect is that while you continue to focus on Lenny, my focus is on what the government did. Take Lenny out of the picture and imagine that the government maliciously prosecuted another person for being what they felt was a pain in the ass. Does that change things for you at all? The "who" is immaterial for me, it is the "what" of government action I take issue with. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

I say this as I am on a limited budget, I've tapped into my tractor fund for the godfather and as a prior metal smith (aircraft mechanic type) am more than impressed with the quality with pro techs products.

Lenny ain't gonna get a dime. All he had to do was pop the "case" open, show the cops his NFA paperwork and that the rifle was unloaded, and go home, and he would have been fine.

  In other words, what the judge said.

Wileecoyote, Nice list man! Good effort! It gives me hope this will happen. Folks, this bad boy is worth the sacrifice, ya can't take the money with you so might as well spend it!

It's here !

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Reading these comments, I think it's interesting to see how many are engaging in the same sort of rhetoric that anti-gun people use for firearms in general (the "why would anyone" type of logic).  Perhaps I am in the minority, but I don't see age as the issue here; it's the level of experience and skill the shooter possesses.  2 years old, 25 years old, or 80 years old, if the shooter is inexperienced and/or unable to effectively maintain safe control of a particular firearm, they shouldn't be using it until they have developed those skills.  If a 9 year old has been shooting since a young age and knows their way around a firearm, it is entirely possible they could safely and effectively handle an UZI.  Why would you let a small kid shoot an UZI?  The same reason any of us might choose to shoot an UZI; it's something we enjoy doing and if done properly, it doesn't result in the unintended death of another person.  I'm not going to insult anyone involved, but simply say that this is an example of how a seemingly minor lapse in judgement, something we all are guilty of from time-to-time, can lead to a tragic outcome.  The problem here was complacency on the part of the instructor.  My understanding of his background suggests he was reasonably well-trained and knowledgeable, but it seems he had a lapse in judgement in this case and this one cost him his life.  The parents are most certainly second-guessing their decision to allow their child to shoot this firearm, but they trusted the judgement of the instructor who should have known that this inexperienced shooter was not ready for a full-auto sub-machine gun.  

This whole thread gave me a laugh. I went to basic at Ft Jackson, C-5-1, tank hill. I was part of a package platoon of Parachute Riggers so went directly to Ft Benning for Airborne school right after basic. 21 years later retired here from the 1-160th SOAR (A).

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[quote name="mikegideon" post="1184209" timestamp="1409271106"]No, I continue to focus on that incident. Terrorizing the general public is an act that should bring on a legal public beating. So, i'm real disappointed they didn't beat the #### out of him with his own gun. He had his day in court, one that would have never happened if he didn't beg for it.[/quote] Then charge him for "terrorizing the public" not a bogus weapons charge. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

  Have you read the ruling?  It clearly explains that one does not have to produce the evidence, only "retain" it.  He in fact had the documentation in the "case" and the LEO's did in fact see it.  He just did not give it to them.

  James Madison would have kicked Lenny right square in the nuts. No reason to waste and founding energy on him.

Rah rah ree , kick'em in the knee ! Rah rah ras , order your Protech fast ! Seemed appropriate while watching football ....

29 more paid orders needed, a little more than two weeks left before the deadline, Come on folks we can do this!

The Dillon 550 and 650 presses take standard dies.

  I was just listening to Phil Valentine in my truck talking about this, he made a good point that Metro police should know what the laws are and Embody should have a civil case against metro for being arrested for a law he didn't violate. I still think Embody is a bozo but actually I hope he wins a suit against metro because they were in the wrong no matter what anyone thinks about Embody.

As much as I dislike the asshat, I think odds are good he may have finally found the payday he has been after.

It will be interesting to see what Lenny's next move is going to be.  I'm sure he'll file a civil suit that will go nowhere.    Will he keep his up his antics?  Ratchet up the fear?  Learn his lesson and get on with his life?  Move to the much safer slip-and-fall in the grocery store scam?   Tune in next week, Kwik fans.... same Kwik time, same Kwik channel!!

I don't watch the show, but innocent or guilty. Just the accusation is enough to ruin him and his business. 

Wish I could be there to meet you fellas!    Someone drink an extra cup of coffee for me. haha

I have no sympathy for an agitator asking for it, but....   If this guy has a history of anything, it has been carry weapons around and not killing people, over and over and over.   If he's prooved he's a threat to anything, he's a threat to his own ambition and cause.

  Thank you for calling him an agitator instead of an activist!

  I know what you mean, after this Godfather run, i need a few long guns so i will give everything else a break for a while

  So, Lenny can plan one of these episodes for months, stressing the law to the limit to make it appear that he is doing something illegal, but they can't bend things to fit him? Doesn't intent mean anything? Damn, I miss the days when they could just hit you with a stick when you asked for it.

[quote name="dcloudy777" post="1184219" timestamp="1409271473"]Lenny's possession of the suppressor was against TN state law. His proper registration under NFA would have been a defense against prosecution (and likely against arrest) but he declined to show any evidence that he had it.[/quote] Check the judge's ruling again, he specifically covered that. State law says he had to retain the paperwork, he was under no obligation to show it to the officers. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

The trooper saw him walking around, questioned him, but didn't feel as if he had any reason to hold him. Voldermont then continued to walk towards the area of town where he was confronted for a second time. Voldermont was doing the same thing during both encounters; walking around.

I need gun money , stop it !

The real question...  Is he walking around downtown Nashville this weekend doing it again or not?   1983 federal lawsuit in 3... 2... 1...

I would love to meet some of you guys from around here, but, thats church day and definitly cannot meet at least that early in the morning.  Have a good time enjoy the ambiance.

Hey guys. I got some good news to report - I'm officially a college graduate as of yesterday.   I took my leave from the Tennessee College of Applied Technology at Athens yesterday, with my Machinist I diploma in hand. After 20 months of turning handles within the walls of Machine Tool Technology, I am now certified.   It's a pretty proud moment for everyone around me, and myself as well. When I started the course in January 2013, I never thought I would even make it this far; but I have, in what seems like a few days' time in retrospect, 20 months has cruised on by.   But it paid off. I graduated with honors (my grade average has never been below 97; for the past year it has been 100 across the board) and perfect attendance for all 20 months.   It was a pretty emotional event, in a way, last night. The yearly ceremony was held at Athens Middle School. It was tough to go through, knowing that I had to move on from several very close friends and co-students, as well as my instructor; but through the magic of email and transportation, it is not good-bye so much as, until next time.   Now I await my next move - getting into a good job. I already have a good lead; I hope it leads to something great. I want to become a top-class machinist, and a hard-working American's American like the great folks here on TGO.   Anyway, hey, thanks for hearing my spiel, fellas.

Civil suit filing in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . . 

Finally got my draft list set. I may be in and out of the live draft tonight due to bad internet service. I have to stay home because I can't do a live draft without beer. Good luck to all and,"let's get ready to rumble!!!!!!!!" JTM Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

As an officer I actually feel relieved when someone informs me of a HCP and them handing it over. I just assume there is a firearm in every vehicle and those that have a HCP are a lot less of a worry to me. I can not think of a single traffic stop where I have given a citation to someone who has voluntarily handed over a HCP.

Don't feel bad about it. Yea It hurt but I have had to put down a few over my lifetime and I won't allow them to suffer and think of myself instead of what is best for them. I am always in the room with them and letting them know I am there as they go to sleep. I always bring them home and bury them in air tight vacuum sealed plastic container with their favorite blanket. I have laid 3 to rest with him being the last but they all lived long lives and all were spoiled rotten with love........................... :up: :up:

Regardless of the issue they proclaim to be doing it for, I have absolutely no sympathy for "agitators" or "activists" who, in the name of a "cause", are purposely provocative when it's really done only for their own self-aggrandizement (or financial enrichment).   The only reason I care at all about this case and about Voldemort at all is that it wastes my and your tax money every time a law enforcement officer or court has to deal with him.   One of these days he is going to screw-up and either significantly break the law and face the consequences or he will be shot by a LEO or armed citizen who believe they have to protect themselves.   "In-your-face" tactics are almost never appropriate and are seldom effective...more often than not such tactics as those employed by Voldemort and his ilk only serve to harm the very cause they claim to be supportive of.

  Unfortunately, my intended sarcasm didn't translate well for you. :slap:   One of the pitfalls of written word vs. spoken word. If we had been face-to-face you would have understood that I was joking. :biglol: