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Hey guys. I got some good news to report - I'm officially a college graduate as of yesterday.   I took my leave from the Tennessee College of Applied Technology at Athens yesterday, with my Machinist I diploma in hand. After 20 months of turning handles within the walls of Machine Tool Technology, I am now certified.   It's a pretty proud moment for everyone around me, and myself as well. When I started the course in January 2013, I never thought I would even make it this far; but I have, in what seems like a few days' time in retrospect, 20 months has cruised on by.   But it paid off. I graduated with honors (my grade average has never been below 97; for the past year it has been 100 across the board) and perfect attendance for all 20 months.   It was a pretty emotional event, in a way, last night. The yearly ceremony was held at Athens Middle School. It was tough to go through, knowing that I had to move on from several very close friends and co-students, as well as my instructor; but through the magic of email and transportation, it is not good-bye so much as, until next time.   Now I await my next move - getting into a good job. I already have a good lead; I hope it leads to something great. I want to become a top-class machinist, and a hard-working American's American like the great folks here on TGO.   Anyway, hey, thanks for hearing my spiel, fellas.

As to the "headline" I wonder who will be sued. The guy responsible already paid with his life so can't blame him. Certainly the business will be sued by the parents. Who's gonna charge the parents for incredible foolishness and irresponsibility in allowing a 9 year old to shoot a fully automatic weapon?

    Towards the end of a round of golf, Dave hit his ball into the woods and found it in a patch of pretty, yellow buttercups.     Trying to get his ball back in play, he ended up thrashing just about every buttercup in the patch.     All of a sudden, POOF!     In a flash and puff of smoke, a little old woman appeared.     She said, 'I'm Mother Nature! Do you know how long it took me to make those buttercups? Just for doing what you have done, you won't have any butter for your popcorn for the rest of your life...  better still, you won't have any butter for your toast for the rest of your life... As a matter of fact, you'll never have any butter for anything for the rest of your life!!!'     Then POOF!... she was gone!     After Dave recovered from the shock, he hollered for his friend, 'Fred, where are you?'     Fred yells back 'I'm over here in the pussy willows.'     Dave shouts back, 'DON'T SWING, Fred!'  FOR THE LOVE OF GOD,  DON'T SWING!!!'

Which department filed charges first and which department filed the second charges? If the ex just shopped around to a different LEA then I suppose the only difference is she got her stories more detailed and rehearsed before approaching LEA number two? And I suppose if they drop charges on this one she'll go to another LEA. God help this man if he ever goes to another county with his daughter. She'd just go to the police/sheriff and say he raped his daughter in their jurisdiction. Considering folks accused of rape are guilty until proven innocent (and often remain guilty even AFTER they are found not guilty) what does she have to lose? This happens a lot. But so does rape. I don't know what happened, but I've grown accustom to not believing sensational headlines, and I'm almost always right for doing so. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I think we've been using the term "instructor" very loosely. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

So it's safe to say that John Wells is a man you can......"trust"?.................I had to. :rolleyes:

You assume too much, The way I keep up with this is the way I did the LG101, The first post in this thread is always updated with who paid for a knife, that is what really matters here. Things happen and some folks who at the time were on board may not be able to afford to do this now, on the other hand some may have the means and want to get more than one now, there is NO way for me to know until they actuality become a customer and Pay. Having said that the only thing I get out of this deal is a free knife, so I am buying 3 additional,If everyone who has shown interest in this commits, I am sure we will get enough orders to make this happen, Dave and the Pro Tech guys just think it is really cool that they get to do forum knives for a Group of Gun guys in Tennessee and I love supporting a company like them who still has Integrity and morals and are making their products here in the United States and do not outsource to other countries for their manufacturing,

I disagree here.  IMO, this shill argument falls apart when you are talking about storing an otherwise legally-owned firearm in your vehicle.  I can understand (not agree with, just understand) the argument with regards to CARRY IN THE WORKPLACE, but to extend that fear to a situation where the employee would first have to leave his work station, go to his vehicle, then return is stretching it too far.  Sounds like an creation straight outta MTAS...   But, following that argument for a second just for s***s and giggles:  if you, Mr Employer, cannot trust that employee YOU hired any further than that, then why on earth should I trust him to execute a transaction with your store...hmmm?

Guns don't kill people; stupidity does. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

This should not have happened. 

best thing to do is keep it to yourself.  Always. Don't ask and don't tell. I guess if I did not need the job I might walk away,  but then if I did not need the job why would I care if down the road I got fired for having a gun in my car?

Stuck out here in CA, but had to see some guns and found a nice shop. :up: They had a killer selection of CA complaint AR's in there. HK's [URL="https://www.lwrci.com/p-120-repr.aspx"]LWRC's R.E.P.R[/URL], and on. Very well stocked with AR's. :yes Didn't take pics inside, but they had a couple rides out front, so I snapped pics of those. Link has pics of the inside: [url=http://www.warrioronegunsandammo.com/]Warrior One, Gun Stores In Riverside,Riverside Gun Store,Gun Stores Corona Gun Shop, Moreno Valley Gun Stores, Gun stores in Riverside[/url] Just thought I'd share. :thumb:

With the opening of a new BPS here in Bristol, one of my son's friends applied for and was offered a position.  The last day of training, they were reviewing store policies, and the new employees were advised that they cannot store an otherwise legally-owned firearm in their vehicle while parked at the BPS - to do so will be grounds for immediate dismissal.  He questioned his understanding of the policy, and was told that he did understand it correctly - and that this was BPS's corporate policy.  He politely handed his "uniforms" back to the manager and told them that he would not be taking the position.   Hopefully, the Cabela's that is building a store just 6 miles up the road will have a bit more common sense.

  Years ago I had my nefew shot quite a few 22s from a Marlin model 60 when he was 10 then he really wanted to shoot my SKS, the first mag I had a grip on the forearm, I could see he could handle it okay but I still stayed close by his side for a while. Build them up slowly to the bigger guns.

Truth be known stupidity on so many levels of this very serious incident is just overwhelming. A man has lost his life. His family has lost a son, Husband, father. A little girl has more then likely been suffering some kind of shock  because she will carry a guilt with her all of her life for something that really was in no way her fault but she will suffer what she witness that few seconds will be in her mind for ever. That gun did not kill that instructor. That man killed himself with stupidity and I have said for years and will say it as long as I am alive and that is    "You Just Can't Fix Stupid"!!!!!   Prayers I will send for the man, his family and that little girl tonight.

I'll see if I can swing it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Now I know what to do with my 26 if the slide get scratched up. Really like that color. Nice!

Whom ever the guilty party is, I hope they never get out of prison.

[quote name="mikegideon" post="1183879" timestamp="1409177739"]Yep. Victim daughter... [font='Helvetica Neue'][size=4] [i]Hayden is accused of raping a minor “almost daily” since March 2013 and taking her virginity when she was 11 years old. [url="http://www.tmz.com/2014/08/26/sons-of-guns-will-hayden-arrested-child-rape-charge-investigation/"]TMZ reports[/url] the girl is Hayden’s daughter. [/i][/size][/font][font='Helvetica Neue'][size=4] [i]During an interview with detectives, the alleged victim said she did not report the sexual abuse because she was afraid Hayden would hurt her. The most recent abuse of the now-12-year-old girl occurred during July 2014, according to the documents. [/i][/size][/font][font='Helvetica Neue'][size=4] [i][url="http://www.tmz.com/photos/2007/05/09/39-celebrity-mug-shots/images/2014/01/23/012314-justin-bieber-mugshot-dui-troubled-jpg/"]PHOTOS: Celebrity mug shots[/url][/i][/size][/font][font='Helvetica Neue'][size=4] [i]According to police documents, the alleged victim claims that Hayden told her “don’t tell them nothing because I’m all you got.”[/i][/size][/font][/quote] This is what I linked. I haven't checked but it may not be up anymore.

I may be the exception to the rule, but I picked up a used Taurus PT1911 a few months ago at a local pawn shop. Cleaned and lubed it good and it has run flawlessly with my 200 gr LSWCs reloads. This is my second Taurus PT1911 and I have had nothing but good experiences with them both. Congrats to the OP on the new gun.

  Yep. Victim daughter...   Hayden is accused of raping a minor “almost daily” since March 2013 and taking her virginity when she was 11 years old. TMZ reports the girl is Hayden’s daughter.   During an interview with detectives, the alleged victim said she did not report the sexual abuse because she was afraid Hayden would hurt her. The most recent abuse of the now-12-year-old girl occurred during July 2014, according to the documents.  PHOTOS: Celebrity mug shots According to police documents, the alleged victim claims that Hayden told her “don’t tell them nothing because I’m all you got.”

What it will look like as soon as I get to feeling better.

I too have the Taurus PT111 G2. GREAT pistol! Bought it last year at Academy in Mt. Juliet. I have shot factory ammo and my reloads. No problem at all. I just hope they come out with a PT145 G2. I want a compact carry pistol in 45ACP. gearyr

I received a bottle of Hot Sauce from a fellow TGO'r in the mail today. It is called "Gib's Hellbanero Fire". Habanero Sauce. The name scared me a tad, but I put some an a Wild Boar Sausage patty and the flavor was amazing. One of the best hot sauces I've had....   Thank You for the sauce Sam!   Dave

Glad you like it.  My PT145 has been great. 

Great! Can't wait to see Scott!

Beautiful guns. An amazing pair actually. I'm kind of envious of  them.   I picked up a GP100 a couple of years ago when I stopped in a gun shop off I40 at the Carthage Exit.   A little place, but I'd been wanting to stop in anyway after several times going by it.     Anyway, not a huge selection of guns. More a store for accessories for the hunters and shooters. But in the case...I saw the GP. I'd passed one by a few months earlier, and this one was not getting away.   I talked with the owner a while, and got it for 430 otd.  I think I made a good buy.   It won't replace my 2 Smith 19s, but I really like it.

Yea, seen that everywhere, I was thinking of using something like this which gives it a slight tilt:

Me and the missus have a pair as well. She has the 4 and I have the 6. Great guns...tough as nails. Congrats on yours. :up:

if scoville units are in the millions don't they become kind of meaningless at some point?   It is like turning the stereo up to 11, how much louder than 10 do you need?

The way that Hayden chopped up some perfectly good firearms on that dumb show......., I knew something just wasn't right about that guy!

[quote name="K191145" post="1183705" timestamp="1409138012"]Start them out shooting alot of .22's first to learn the basics of shooting. A full-auto Uzi is just too much for a 9 year old girl. Stupid tragic accident and in no way is the little girl to blame for anything. I hope they keep telling her that over and over so she believes it but i'm afraid she's scarred for life from this. [/quote] Agreed. I should have worded it differently. I meant when you are going to intruduce them to a full auto. Not their first gun.

Check this out...  https://www.osti.gov/opennet/manhattan_district.jsp

finished the book last night.  Way better than the movie, and I liked the flick.    If the movie had been identical to the book it would have been 6 parts and 12 hours long.

I did. I've always had a special place for you guys after being jokingly referred to as "cargo" by one of your colleagues at the air regiment years ago. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I would start them of with an AR and be right next to them. Not AS much muzzle rise and if it did get out of control you could grab the fore end. Not much to grab on an uzi.

Let me say this, if I was going to teach any person how to shoot a fully automatic I would do it in steps.   1.  Basic Range safety.  Master it. 2.  Understanding of the gun, all control points. 3.  Finally loading the first round.  Yes 1 round. 4.  Fire 1 round. repeat 3 and 4 several times over. 5 Load 2 rounds, 6. fire 2 rounds repeat several times.   Then so on to burst of 3 rounds.   then based on that, might move up, but this would not be in one day.

I just found some wasps trying to build a nest between chimney and house.I hate anything with a stinger..cause they hurt..   I just think the nests are neat but husband doesn't want to wait until it gets pretty..lol

ok thanks

I wouldn't worry about it either.  Shoot it with a coat of rustoleum or just wipe it down with an oily rag.  Or from that thread about various lubricants, get a can of that WD-40 long term corrosion stuff. 

You guys were RIGHT and I am a dumb arse!  No one at the church knew anything if my wife's surgery. I called the church today and the pastor is coming by this afternoon. He is going to get a volunteer to come by and stay with her while I work. Talk about foot prints in the sand! I want to thank you guys for your replies and prayers.

What am I preparing for?     The Defender's Creed John Farnam I accept and understand that human predators exist. Criminal or terrorist, they take advantage of our civilized society to prey upon the weak. They represent evil and must be confronted and defeated. I believe that self-defense is a moral imperative, and that illegitimate force and illegal violence must be met with righteous indignation and superior violence. I will not rely on others for the security of myself, my family and my community. I proudly proclaim that I run with a like-minded pack. I do not amble through life with the mind-numbed herd. I will train with my chosen weapons, maintain them and carry them in a condition of readiness at all times. I will be mentally prepared and physically equipped to effectively respond to an attack or emergency. I will constantly test myself against realistic standards to discover my strengths and weaknesses. I will turn weakness into strength. I will seek to learn new skills and techniques, and then teach what I have learned to other members of the pack. Be it with firearm or blade, empty hand or blunt object, I will hit my enemies hard, fast and true. I will live a quiet and unobtrusive life, but I will develop and retain the capacity for swift and decisive violence. I recognize that I am the modern equivalent of the traditional Minuteman, and that I may be called to service at any time against heavily armed enemies. I will respond effectively. I accept that I am a pariah among some of my countrymen, and a quaint anachronism to others. I will not hold their ignorance against them. I will win, or die trying. I swear this creed before God, my family and my fellow citizens.

I'm going out on a predictive limb  and say Your next President, Hilary Clinton.

Lincoln is the ugliest in my book. Now, for the catagory of the most worthless...well, BHO has it hands down!   Dave

Or Obama.   I'd say Obama is the ugliest, for various reasons.   Second would be Obama as well.

I'm not preparing for anything.....I'm already prepared.   I carry a handgun for the same reason there is a jack, spare tire, jumper cables, and flashlight in my truck. Just in case.   If I have reason to believe there will be trouble, I'll be somewhere else, or else I'll have a rifle.

I pocket carried it once in cargo shorts. It's semi-discreet and a bit clunky. If you're looking for a smooth, quick draw in a worst case situation, forget it.

I am guessing if there was even a hint of this being true they would have never let the kid go back with him.  Just another vengeful ex who is jealous she doesn't get to spend his money.

Any report of child abuse should be taken seriously and investigated. On the other hand if the allegations are proven false those who filed the false report should be charged criminal as well as be forced to pay restitution for the damaged reputation.   Because he is a celebrity of sorts within the gun community they are going to run with this and shut him down.

To the unknown public, doubt they will truly know what this is, but I like it. I had considered this as well, but alot smaller: [url=http://s963.photobucket.com/user/runco0318/media/arsight_zps24760951.jpg.html][/URL]