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This sounds like a job for someone with insurance.

I only use organic firewood.  I really prefer free range when I can get it, too.  My firewood shouldn't have to spend its life boxed in with a bunch of other trees just sitting around and waiting to be burned.

Uh oh, look who added a comment on the Youtube video.

My hats off to the gentleman, he showed a tremendous amount of restraint. I have a problem with authority that is really hard for me to keep in check at times, being kept from my kids would have flipped my switch. IMHO what you have here is a Beta male (the officer) dealing with what he perceives as an Alpha male (the parent) and he is determined to show that he is not going to be intimidated or pushed around. (Even though the parent was the definition of calm) Good job officer, you should have just wet yourself and given the man his kids.

Good thing I don't have kids. This is just another reason I refuse to have em. Rules or no rules, those are HIS kids. If he wants em, he should have them. He shoulda ripped that fat ass rednecks throat out. Never come In between people and their children. I'm a cop lover and take up for them time and time again. We also don't need another stupid cop bashing thread but this resource officer needs his ass stomped. Not reprimanded...physical bludgeoning. I hope the guy wins a lawsuit large enough to put his kids through 4 years of Vanderbilt; room board books and tuition.

Where are the under color of law charges against the deputy?  There is no disorderly conduct here, the guy never raised his voice, never cursed, never threatened the officer or staff with any violence, or unlawful conduct...   As I see it the deputy committed 3 kidnappings under the color of law, the two minors he would not release to his lawful guardian which is a violation of state law, and the unlawful arrest of the father.   This deputy losing his badge should be the least of his worries, he should at the very least be sitting in jail waiting on his trial, looking at spending the rest of his life in jail (or worse), the DA should throw the book at this guy.  How is this guy still walking around threatening the public with his badge and a firearm?  And the department is censoring public feedback?  The sheriff should be cleaning house, or voted out of office.

Up until the shots were fired the officers were 100% correct. People think they can just do what they want without consequences. I hope they charge the mother with aggravated child abuse and take her kids. The son should be charged but not to anything substantial. The officer that fired should be charged with aggravated assault.

My son showing how to effectively administer a stiff arm on his way to a 26 yard TD. 2A state football playoffs at its best.

I neither like nor dislike police officers.  I don't like to group people.  I prefer to judge people on an individual basis.  That said, this man does not deserve the honor of wearing a badge, and he forgets that he is a servant of the people, not a dictator.  I don't know I would file any charges against the officer, but I would make him apologize to the parent then fire him immediately.  I would also take it a step further and bar him from any form of public service as he does not have the right temperament or people skills.  Based on what I saw, he is ideally suited for digging ditches.  Unfortunately, he appears much too out of shape for that.

  Yeah, didn't know we have ever debated whether he was Mensa eligible.   - OS

Got a note from CMT this weekend indicating that the uppers and lowers have shipped out to be coated.  There are a bunch of them, so it'll take a couple of weeks.   I think they're expecting to start shipping them around the 8th of December.

And the other shoe drops...  Which is why I like to see raw video footage not news coverage...   http://www.taosnews.com/news/article_401433ae-4d74-11e3-9e84-001a4bcf887a.html   It seems we don't have the entire story...  The mother was issued the ticket for speeding, and it was only after the officer insisted she PAY THE FINE IN CASH on the side of the road, or go before a local Judge did she drive away.  So she didn't drive away without signing the ticket, only without paying the fine on the spot.   Now, it seems the officers request is legal under NM state law...  but I can see how a TN single mom with kids in the car might think something is amiss and become scared enough to flee when you have an officer on the side of the road trying to shake you down for cash over a 16 mph speeding ticket.  I didn't know this little fact about NM law before today, if I was confronted with an officer demanding cash or he would arrest me, I too would be concerned I was dealing with a dirty cop and my life may very well be in danger.   I think this little fact shed a whole new light on her fleeing to a public location where she surrendered, and also in my mind clears the 14 year old...

Doesn't matter if the vehicle just had the mom, or was loaded with nuns...  The vehicle didn't pose a threat of death or serious bodily injury to the officers as it was driving away from them, not towards them.   Would be nice to see the complete unedited footage, instead of the clips the news played.   I don't know about charging the 14 year old...  Your mom screams for help, and you come to her aid no questions asked...  at 14 that instinct is probably natural and not criminal.   The mom looks guilty without a doubt... I would like to see the raw video, but she does seem a few sheets shy of a book in the clips the news played.   And the officer who shot at a car driving off, needs to be in jail for felony stupid.    

Rule of the house, no christmas decorations until after Thanksgiving.

Finally managed to get away to my lease this afternoon. I wasn't on stand for more than 20 minutes before a little forky showed up & offered me a 'my freezer's empty' shot, which I promptly missed. I reloaded & this 6 ran into & stopped in the exact same spot, so I figured I was getting a mulligan...... He was slightly quartering towards me & only went 40 yards across an open field before piling up in a hedgerow.

Party at DaveS's crib!

  Whut? Until now, you thought he was a bright boy? :) He's been an idiot from day one.

All that for going 16 mph above the speed limit.  Sheesh.    I would agree that the officers were in the right initially.  However, considering kids were in the vehicle, I think the line was crossed when they started busting windows.  If I was making the decisions, I pretty much agree with Dolomite.  I would probably require the primary officer to undergo further training, charge the mother (although I would not take her kids if she has a clean record), and charge the son.  The officer that was shooting?  Well...I would throw the book at him.  He has clearly proven he cannot use the proper judgement that is required to be a good officer.

Last week, Cumberland County, TN   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8r-bdcvx8E

Didn't know there is NON organic firewood.. lol     http://knoxville.craigslist.org/grd/4196648715.html

Not sure if I'm going to run these or just hang onto them for the coolness factor. I think John Noveske would say "run'em"! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk

Even at $40 considering the money or at least part if it went to the family is still say well spent. Now had that terrible accident not occurred and these were just Noveske branded Pmags for the sake of being cool, I'd say $25 - $30 would be about right. Once again, in the time frame we were seeing people buying standard $12 pmags for $50+ I'm going again with "good buy" and that's my final answer Regis. :D

Now it's a party. :lol:

  Even after becoming convinced that he was not legally responsible for committing a crime in the Martin case (i.e. "not guilty") my thoughts about him have been something along the lines of, "Just because he may not have been guilty of a crime in that instance doesn't mean he isn't still an asshat."  I have never thought he was the kind of person I'd want to hang around with and certainly not the guy I want being seen as representative of the gun owning/carrying community, in general.

Put it this way, the model 38 was never designed to be a shooter. A few came with Aluminum cylinders which is bad, most will have a carbon steel cylinder which is a lot stronger. With that said, today's +p 38 ammo is about what was a standard load 30-40 years ago. I don't think you will ever be able to shoot enough +p through it to wear it out.

I'm starting to think I was wrong about this douche...

  Thing is, a parent can walk into any school any other time of day and get their kid out.   Probably good that wasn't a Alpha Pit Bull Mother involved with that cop standing between her and her kids, cop or she or both would have taken some lumps at the least. :)   - OS

He's prosecution proof. Didn't y'all know that? Maybe this time....just maybe! DaveS

I just love it when news reporters fall over themselves to essentially report that "something happened" but we really don't know what yet".

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"Easy to use, just add fire"

  I think you mean citizens as the police are supposed to be civilian as well.  Militarized police forces are part of the problem today and will run roughshod over rights and liberty.  Any country that has a militarized police is rife with corruption and serious human rights abuses.  I've seen it first hand in Russia, where people are as afraid of the police as they are the criminals.

  Poor has nothing to do with it.  I as well as many others grew up dirt poor, and we turned out just fine.  You had it right initially when you mentioned parental involvement,  These kid's parents are more than likely worthless pieces of excrement who really don't care about anything but themselves.  Granted, there are some exceptions, but I believe they are minority.  While I do not have any kids, I believe that it takes a lot more than just providing food, shelter, and clothing to properly raise a child.

They would never attack someone like me or you. They're looking for the oblivious teacher, the homeless guy, or the girl walking alone. That's why they call the game "Knockout" and not "Hit a hillbilly then get your ass stomped." These are the worst examples of humans, they will reap what they sow.

If they cost only a little extra plus the proceeds go to help the family, I'd say solid buy. Heck IIRC, when they released those was somewhere in the middle if the panic, in which case paying anything less than $30.00 was a great deal anyway.

try foxit i use it to read pdf files but i think its supposed to work like acrobat aswell

36" doesn't need a big saw, you can easily cut that with a 16" bar   to add on to that, if you're not sure how that works, you better get a professional to drop that thing.  saving $500 can cost you thousands in damage

Ladyhay, take you pistol to a gun shop and get them to look if it can shoot "+P", like another said, ya need to know. There are 3 in town. Link to google search. https://www.google.com/search?q=Savannah%2C+TN&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.yahoo:en-US:official&client=firefox#q=gun+stores+in+Savannah%2C+TN&rls=com.yahoo:en-US%3Aofficial

I agree! But in the end, even keeping his cool wasn't good enough to keep him out of jail. After all the cops I've seen handle screaming, cussing, humiliation and still remaining calm and doing their job. And this officer arrested him over conversation. Sickening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCb9g8plGF8#t=75

"JJFU" -"Jesse Just F'd U", I assume

Based on that price I've got a pretty good idea of what "JJFU" stands for and it's not all that complimentary to the buyer.

  Thank you Sir.   This is my experience with the majority of peace officers I know, especially in my area. A couple are "shooting buddies" and are quite knowledgeable and respectful of the Constitutionally protected Rights we all possess.After all, they are civilians as well, and many are prior military and believe in and hold the same Oath many of us have taken. There are buttheads and duffuses in every profession..and good solid people as well. I judge a person by their actions, not the actions of another...It happens to my profession as well...     I've carried a "Truck" gun or "trunk" both here in TN, and back home in MS and LA for nearly 20 years and have never had an issue with it. I use one of the tennis racket bags like I posted above, or something quite similar to store the long gun in my vehicle...just low profile.   Common sense...something not always common (LOL) goes a long ways. If I am having to hoof it home because things are so bad I can't drive, I'll go as low profile and off the beaten track as possible.   Like tnguy posted...there are a lot of varying potential situations that could happen. Adaptability is a must.   :2cents:

True for load, caliber, and handgun. I had a defense attorney tell me he stands a great defense if he can tell a jury his client protects his family with the exact same handgun and ammo the police use to protect them.

Oh boy here we go again ..... what about blue lights do we not understand????

Now why would they be good for home defense but not self defense in a carry gun away from the house?  That really doesn't make much sense.   Many like FMJ .380 as it's usually better at penetration that hollow points.  Does he expect an intruder to take of their coat so you can shoot them better?

But that’s the thing, it’s fast and brutal. Many think since we carry a gun that we have an edge. We have an edge maybe as a bystander, but not in a full on attack on us. Most would probably go down just like those people did.

But you made memories Sir!   DaveS

I'm not racist. I hate Biden too.

  I suspect that a great many of us are going to fall into the hoarder category for a while at least.   I don't plan on snatching everything I see, but will try and pick up a box or so when I see it at a reasonable price. Then if the supply  and price warrants, I'll buy case lots. But whether or not we see the "old" pricing on the major pistol and rifle calibers again is still questionable.