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I have some Marine friends in different cities, namely oceanside, who have started doing stuff trying to tempt this. Walking down an ally "alone" with a group of poor inner city youths coming the other way, being in the wrong stores with the types of teenagers who play these games. The difference is, they have 4 or 5 more Marines around the corner, and have every intention of kicking the #### out of some dumbasses. Not saying I condone it, and their command will be pissed when they find out. But Id love to see it when it happens. Tapatalk ate my spelling.

  I can't even describe how sweet it would be to see 4-5 badass Marines turn the tables and play their own game of "Break your arms, legs and face, then knock your punk ass out".

  Totally right, mav.   It takes an adult to raise a child. Someone who has a sense of value on life and a moral character. Someone willing to stand up. Be Responsible. Take command of his or her own life and see that parenting is a big part of the answer to our current social problems.   And not one of these "it takes a village to raise a child". That's pure bovine scatology. That sort of thinking is what leads to kids wandering the streets looking for entertainment.   They get no guidance. Therefore, they have no direction. Just an aimless, wandering existence. Full of the "gimme" and "me, me" attitudes. Looking for instant gratification with no thought or concern to consequences to themselves or others.

  Poor has nothing to do with it.  I as well as many others grew up dirt poor, and we turned out just fine.  You had it right initially when you mentioned parental involvement,  These kid's parents are more than likely worthless pieces of excrement who really don't care about anything but themselves.  Granted, there are some exceptions, but I believe they are minority.  While I do not have any kids, I believe that it takes a lot more than just providing food, shelter, and clothing to properly raise a child.

But that’s the thing, it’s fast and brutal. Many think since we carry a gun that we have an edge. We have an edge maybe as a bystander, but not in a full on attack on us. Most would probably go down just like those people did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCb9g8plGF8#t=75

  It's heavy. But, unlike the 45 ACP, you really do only have to shoot 'em once.

Just proves that doing any thing wrong will get attention, speeding is not the worst, but up there. 2nd, when you do get pulled over you were doing something wrong, just do the right thing. Be smart, not a smart ass. This could have turned into a death of a child over bullheadedness.

Why in the world would he wanna trade down?

Up until the shots were fired the officers were 100% correct. People think they can just do what they want without consequences. I hope they charge the mother with aggravated child abuse and take her kids. The son should be charged but not to anything substantial. The officer that fired should be charged with aggravated assault.

Now why would they be good for home defense but not self defense in a carry gun away from the house?  That really doesn't make much sense.   Many like FMJ .380 as it's usually better at penetration that hollow points.  Does he expect an intruder to take of their coat so you can shoot them better?

No one is so good they can prevent everything or every possible attack but isn't this precisely the reason why we should always be in condition Yellow and extremely aware of what and who is around us?  Isn't it also one of the reasons why we should avoid places that make attack (such as alleyways, etc.) convenient (that's why I avoid WalMart parking lots! :) )? You are right, fast and brutal and that means the attacker has the upper hand (as they always do)...but sooner or later these worthless pieces of crap that engage in this WILL pick on the wrong person and...   1. One or more of these thugs will be dead, and 2. If the person defending himself is charged I'll be donating to his/her defense fund

CVA Optima .50cal Dave and others....I had a HECK of a hunt today! One of THE BEST hunts I have been on in a long time! I was hunting over a wheat/clover field about 200 yards as the crow flies from a bedding area. Its about an acre plot as well so its not too big. I was hunting out of a RedNeck Hunting Blind in a very comfortable chair. Anyways, my day started with a 3pt buck that came cruising through. I was able to glass him for a bit with my Nikon Monarch 5's binoculars. Beautiful animal! [url=http://s532.photobucket.com/user/jtv14/media/IMG_3091_zps0167e4a3.jpg.html][/URL] Then a lone doe came out about 15 minutes later. She was tearing into the clover. My goal this year is to only kill does to help reduce our deer heard and balance the doe/buck sex ratio. Anyways, I thought about taking her, which would be my first with a Muzzleloader, and decided not to because I was a little afraid it might be a button buck (turns out it was a doe). So I decided to wait and I am GLAD I DID! So I look up and see a big bodied deer on the edge of the woods. Nikon Monarch's indicated it was a 2.5 year old buck with 4 on one side and atypical with 2 on the other. He was STARING HER DOWN. He wanted her so bad. He ended up bedding down on the edge of the woods just watching her for like 10 minutes. THEN he got up and started making a scrape! Thrashing his antlers around on this overhanging limb, hoofing the ground and then taking a wicked piss right on the center. Then he took a few steps towards her and started grunting at her over and over. He ran like 3 steps to her and she ran a bit but still for the most part ignored him. Then once he was in the middle of the field, he bedded down again! Then more time passed and she wandered off and he followed in hot pursuit. [url=http://s532.photobucket.com/user/jtv14/media/IMG_3094_zps5b81a695.jpg.html][/URL] Then I started hearing turkeys purring. A group of like 9 gobblers came out right by my stand. So awesome! [url=http://s532.photobucket.com/user/jtv14/media/IMG_3100_zps447ce7a3.jpg.html][/URL] [url=http://s532.photobucket.com/user/jtv14/media/IMG_3101_zps1e51e37c.jpg.html][/URL] Then after they ran off a group of 3 deer came out. A mom, and two fawns, one of which actually was a button buck! So I ended up taking out the mom. I cleaned her up and gave her to some Mexicans that were working on my FIL's farm house and they were very thankful and excited for her! [url=http://s532.photobucket.com/user/jtv14/media/IMG_3128_zpsb915d312.jpg.html][/URL] What a hunt!!! All I had was my iphone 4s, so sorry about all the crappy photos.

  Water. And a portable way to filter more. Numero uno on foot, especially if you're trying to avoid people.   - OS

Maybe I'm behind the times or something, but what in the world makes our young people do the crap they do? I just don't get it!   DaveS

These little pricks need a good ass beating. Then we will see how "macho" they are. Little bastards...all of them.

Serious moment... Look at the Tavor if you really want a scrapping rifle, and have that budget. 

So yesterday I was in town doing a few things. While in town I decided to check Academy Sports for 22. We were about 3-4 minutes out so I called to see if they had any so we wouldn't need to stop if we didn't need to. I had no other need to go in there other than to buy 22 ammo so a quick call telling me they didn't would save me some time and effort.   I called and went through the options to get to the gun counter. It rang 5-6 times then there was a distinct pause and it began to ring again. After it rang 2-3 times someone from customer service picked up. I asked if they had any 22 ammo. He didn't say a word and transferred me to the gun counter. It rang 5-6 times again then the same guy at customer service answered and asked how I could help. I again asked about 22 and he asked me to hold please. I interupted him and told him I had already called back there twice. He said he would check on the 22 ammo and come back to the line. At this point we pulled into the parking lot of Academy Sports and my wife says I should just hang up because I am here but I didn't. I kept the phone to my ear while I waddled my happy butt into the store on crutches. I made a bee line for the gun counter but did not ask anybody anything when I got there because I wanted to see what the hold up was. So I stand there for 2-3 minutes and I watch as 4-5 employees are BSing and laughing amongst themselves. They were all standing around the cash register which is where the phone is. As I was standing there my phone began to ring again. I guess if someone is on hold for too long it automatically rings customer service again. Someone else picked up at customer service and asks if he can help. I tell him I am on hold to find out if there is any 22 ammo. He asks me to hold and transfers me, yet again, to the gun counter again. I am standing 3 feet from their phone as it begins ringing but they continue to BS and laugh amongst themselves without acting like the phone is even ringing. Then after 5-6 rings, in which they do not answer, I again get transferred back to the customer service where the last guy picks up again. I ask about 22 ammo and I again get transferred to the gun counter where the same 4-5 employees are still standing around BSing and laughing. I am standing there watching them all as the phone continues to ring and not a single one is even acknowledging it. It rings 4-5 times then a female employee runs up and frantically picks up the phone. I ask about 22 even though I already know they don't have any. We hang up and those 4-5 employees continue to BS as I walked away.   I spent close to 10 minutes waiting on the gun counter to answer with 5 minutes of it standing right in front of the gun counter watching them BS as their phone rang. I don't know about the first two calls to the gun counter but the last two I was standing right there without a customer in sight so I know it wasn't like they were busy with a customer. I can only assume they didn't answer the first two calls for the same reason as the last two.   So on my way out I asked for a manager. I told him his employees were not answering the phones back at the gun counter. He was nice as can be but started to make excuses so I interupted him and told him I was standing right there as the phone rang without them answering it because they were chatting away amongst themselves. At that point he seemed to get a little pissed and said he would take care of it. No clue whether he did or just got a good laugh at my expense but at least he knows now and can't claim ignorance when I talk to his boss the next time this happens.   I am not going to fool myself into thinking I am not going to buy from there ever again or boycott the place or anything. But every time I pull into the parking lot I am going to call to see where it leads.  

While waiting for something to dry in my dungeon I stumbled across something worse than obamacare or congress, it's called extreme cheapskates on TLC.i like saving as much as anyone else but the adults on this show that are raising kids don't deserve to have them.Feeding a child from a trash can is NOT part of  providing a nurturing enviroment.  People feeding their families from dumpsters and sharing dirty bath water. Wanna see the epitome of disgusting watch this show.,,nasty nasty nasty Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 of course it ate my spelling.

The USPS wouldn't need a bail out if congress wasn't requiring them to pre-fund retirement. No one else has the requirement. This is not directed at you MacGyver, but I wanted to remind some people before they get started...the USPS does not receive our tax dollars.

Paint what ya got, meat tenderizer and go to work. Small link chain is next, them drag on some gravel and your are done.

SOoo, THE SYSTEM WE HAVE IN PLACE WORKS, O my goodness, what will the left do now?

Thanks again for all the feedback.  I find I am meow jammed up on choosing between an AR or a bolt gun in .308.  LOL.  Choices, choices.  Damn I love being an American.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2013/11/17/SNLs-Eviscerates-Obama-With-Paxil-Popping-Second-Term-Parody   well played!

 Ok, now I have to disagree a bit. I liked District 9. And Battlefield Earth. There. I said it. Didn't particularly rave over Cloverfield. I couldn't get into the camera style. But that's ok. We like different kinds of trashy movies. Haven't seen Bad Taste. Not sure if I want to look that one up. Seems a little far-fetched to me. :squint:  :stunned: LOL

It's a great place to go if you're interested in putting several items in your hand before making a purchase. It's a great place to go if you're looking for items that aren't as easily found in other places. It's not a good place to go if you're expecting to find yard sale prices.    More often that not, I am a price shopper. I generally find it well worth the $10 to make sure I REALLY want something before I buy it online. The problem is, some people are under the impression gun shows were created as some type of swap-o-rama, where you should be able to find everyone giving everything away for pennies on the dollar. While there are always those who price their items above retail, I never have a problem finding those who are selling at "fair" prices. I've even found some great deals at below retail.  Until someone opens a local retail store that allows me the opportunity to put as many items in my hand as some of the local gun shows, I'll gladly blow $10 if I'm in the market for something.

I'm not walking down an alley towards a group of anything. Cats, rats, teens or babies. The odds are against you. As for being in the woman's position, nothing that you can do about that.

Great day & lots of fun. Good to see everyone. Thank you for helping/giving me tips for shooting with a handheld flash light. I really liked the night match. John w/ laser=deadly Norma w/ handheld flashlight=amazing strong hand display & super fast reload. Carbine guys=lots of talking...lol

How is a person gonna protect his home if there isn't several people there he has to sleep sometime and they'll be few he can trust and as it gets worse he wont be able to trust near as many. After a week or so a man would be lucky to find any wildlife and if he does shoot a deer everybody around heard that gun shot and might want to take it from you.    One thing I haven't heard anyone say anything about if fishing gear and maybe a canoe or kayak  Were lucky here in TN everyone lives close to a body of water I think a man might survive a while on fish and nobody's gonna hear you catch a fish   Something else to think on

JMO, but public gun auctions don't seem to bring good values out. Last one I went to was in the early 90s, and it was pathetic what some people would bid up a gun to.   I just stopped going. Not saying you can't find a "buy" now and then, but I tired of all the trouble involved to get one.

((((( NORMA )))))

Its all about money.. what I do not understand is that how the " congregation" can look at that and still give money? They are just about laughing in their faces

Sounds like you had a great hunt, Slappy. Nice doe!

  I disagree with this. I use the cheapest HDMI cables that I can find. It's almost as bad a debate as "Mac vs Windows" or "Ford vs Chevy", but personally I don't see paying more than $2-$3 for an HDMI cable.

http://www.faliaphotography.com/

There is a young woman on YouTube that does a lot of good videos on carry holsters, guns, and other accessories for women. Can’t think of her name right now, maybe someone else knows it?

It don't get no better than that! Watching a the deer like that gets your heart going doesn't it? DaveS

I have been very pleased with the insignia brand from best buy.

X Girlfriend sent me a hat once that said, "your father should have pulled out early." I think she was mad. 

yeah me and my gf are watching now some of these people are just down low

I met and visited with Ken at the last Murfreesboro show. He's a super nice guy. 

Had this not been a sad reflection of what customer service has turned into, it would almost be comical. Too many companies no longer teach customer skills. Sent barefoot from the hills of Tennessee

They are top notch.

You touch that FAL off inside a house and you won't be hearing squat either.

The one wife bought ate 115 gr fmj but the defensive is 124 gr. She is carrying with one in the chamber with safety on. She said it reminds her of her 1911's that she was carrying before. Now the Glock 19 gen 4 that she was carrying will be one of her range guns. Hard to believe when we lived in FL (10 years ago) she wouldn't go to the range with me, now we go every weekend.

I worked five minutes from home for several years. It was great. But I followed the money. No one in my small town can come close to touching the pay and benefits. I know it's not always about the money, but I am working to support my family the best I can. sent barefoot from the hills of Tennessee

If younpack your kit right, the bag will float. We had to pack our ILBE packs and do swim qual with them in the Marines. I can float a 70 lb pack pretty easy. You can buy military waterproofing bags,or just use contractor trash bags. Put the bag in your pack open, pack everything in bag, then tie with paracord. Pack anything in outside pockets inaide of sealed ziplocs. You can make the pack float enough to use it for a float device to lay on and kick your way across a creek or river. Tapatalk ate my spelling.

I knew i should have just asked you in the first place.  :up: