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Wow , going back to my rock roots. Still listening to the likes of Iron Maiden , Alice Cooper , .38 Special , Slayer , Slipknot , Kiss and other great bands of the past still leads me back to my roots of metal ; Black Sabbath. Not that The Stones , The Who , The Guess Who , Grand Funk and who else are not part of my library but when I first decided to take up the bass ; Gezzer Butler , John Entwistle and Mel Schacher were my idols. The new Black Sabbath 13 rocks my stereo (IPOD) just as the older ones , for once they have put out a collection that is close to the first 4 presses of vinyl , if you are old enought to recall it. Not that there is a problem with something like Technical Ecstasy or Never Say Die, prob the only mid life band albums I loved prior to the Dio days. Dio days are a different thread. Regardless , if you are a Sabbath fan of old I think you will be pleased with this release. It's like the days of old although missing Bill Ward ; he says he's too tired and they can't get along. Kind of like when Tony Iommi decided he couldn't play with Jethro Tull anymore back in the 60's , Tony didn't like a leader of a band ; so what about Ozzy ? " Good Night , We Love You All ! "

10 to 1 says they are at Academy and Walmart on tues / thurs waiting on their inventory truck to show???

Cleaning his gun my a$$. He was playing with his new gun. Dumba$$ should have known he could have put someone's eye out.

Lighting up the room and that loud bang is a pretty good warning. They just gotta be quick. :)

[quote name="confidence" post="1022141" timestamp="1377576467"] Not sure what I think about this Pincus video: I think for me it would be more like this: 1. If there is time, the family would barricade in the safe room without me 2. I would positively identify the target as a BG (especially important at night) and then pull the trigger I know it would likely not be that cut and dried as there could be other complexities, but I'm not sure I agree with his version, including the idea of verbally warning the BG that you have a gun.[/quote] I have kids to protect. Any apprehension on my part to eliminate the threat puts their lives at risk, especially due to my floor plan. Anyone who illegally enters my home does not deserve the benefit of the doubt, and anyone who risks their lives by giving an intruder the benefit of the doubt is being foolish. The benefit of the doubt ends at the locked door or window they came through. The locked door was their warning.

I have been an Iron Maiden fan for 28 years. This September 5 I will finally see them in concert for the first time. I'm as giddy as a little schoolgirl. 

My goodness but that's cute!!   On a serious note, if you do take one of these pups, please get him/her fixed unless you are willing to take on grandpups in a few years. So many heartbreaking stories of animals being sent to the pound would never happen if people spayed their pets.  Smith--is it too late to spay mama?  I think that should be done.

Brother TGO'rs, I came across this just a bit ago, and thought y'all would get a good laugh. Enjoy! DaveS Crack'a American

You are doing something wrong. There is no way you got two sets of bad dies. If so go buy a lottery ticket because the odds are astronomical you did.           When you got the replacement die did you put the original decapping pin in that die too? Completely remove the decapping pin and run a case inside the sizing die. Does it still come out looking like a sharpened pencil?   It almost sounds like you have the seater rod in the sizing die rather than the decapping rod.   Take a picture of the problem die and make sure to include a view inside.

F. J. J. !

  Retaliation=prison in ANY state. Not a good word in this context.

I would always "warn" if I have a safe opportunity to do so...why wouldn't I??? I not armed just so I can shoot someone, especially if it can be avoided; if the home invader (or the thug in any given situation) can be warned and he decides to make an intelligent decision to disengage then so much the better. This is right in line with most every other training I've had including Massad Ayoob.

Only "law abiding" gun owners will be affected, since criminals don't buy their guns & ammunition at retail outlets, they buy them on the streets or they just steal them. As mentioned in the video, this is simply an attempt to curb the sales of firearms & ammunition just like they did by taxing the crap out of tobaccco products. Maybe this is just what this nation needs, a reminder of what happened when King George raised the taxes on the tea being imported into the colonies? Of course I couldn't condone tossing perfectly good ammunition into the Boston harbor though.

My credo: More than 4 legs, kill it. 4 legs, it stays outside. 2 legs, ok. 1 leg, get it a wheelchair.

nah, if I wanted to drive a bunch of muscle cars, steal money, shoot cops, and beat up hookers I'd just move to Detroit. 

  I think Obama needs to pick up his trusty sword and lead the charge, bein' commander in chief and all.

I'm picking up a Remington 700 in .300 WinMag on Friday. I feel like a kid on Christmas again!  :rock:

http://www.caintv.com/obama-et-al-discuss-syria-on-f   Big discussion going on  :rofl:

Here is a link to a short article i found via drudge posted in National Review on line:   http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/356851/jesse-jackson-tea-party-resurrection-confederacy-katherine-connell   It seems that that great friend of democracy, peacemaker, and friend of all of mankind, Jessee Jackson, thinks the Tea Party is the "New Confederacy".  It's a short read.  The sentence above gives his sentiments.    Tea Party operatives:  I say "....keep up the good work...!"  When they call ya names, you are winnin.   leroy, radical isolationist libertarian and friend of the Tea Party

I LOL'd

Amen to that Threeeighty.

Here is the 1911 that I carry on occasions when I carry a big gun. It is a Norenco done by a friend. The sights are Millette that appear to be speced by Col. Cooper. I had to stipple the front and rear strap. I used the AP core from a .50 cal. round. It took me several months. My friend tigged up the barrel lugs and then fitted them. He installed a new barrel bushing that is just barely finger tight. The gun shoots far better than I can shoot it. It was parkerized and then Dura coated. The illumination for this photo was from a 400 watt work light. You can see how the finish ate the light. Interesting how closely this gun resembles the one in the article by Cooper.

Bingo. I'm not going to even look this one up. Best case scenario, I'm not outraged. Worst case, my blood pressure starts going up before bed time.

Very nice job on that Spots! I really like that.

Do I dare admit in public that I had to google what "twerking" is :shrug:  But then again being the father of three teenage daughters it might be a good thing that I don't know.

Hate to say it but it was something in your process and not two sets of dies. As I said I suspect you had the seater pin in the die rather than the decapper pin.   Luckily RCBS has the greatest customer service on the planet.   Also, 3n1 oil isn't the best stuff to use. You are eventually going to stick a case.

That is awesome.

  All the more reason to carry on your person while at home. That puts you in complete control of the firearm and in doing so, you can keep a round chambered.

They say the south has never forgotten, but I notice the libtard news readers often use the term "those former Confederate states".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR3ChDXCv0I

My weapns dont fire, they are triggered

  Of course. The discussion is about the best way to do so. It may be that encouraging the bad-guy to leave without a gunfight would be better than hoping that things will go well when the bullets start flying. There are so many factors that could play into this, including ones that wouldn't be evident until the event, that I'm not confident saying one-way or another.

There is absolutely nothing that I value above the lives of my family that I'm supposed to protect. When somebody forces entry into my home they are assumed to be there to do them harm. I don't have the luxury of giving the criminal the benefit of the doubt. He lost that when he forced entry. The locked door was his warning. No lawsuit, fear of conviction or any other superfluous reason will trump my duty to protect my family. I won't gamble on their lives by giving an intruder the opportunity to disable or kill me, thus leaving them unprotected and at the mercy of a sociopath. If other folks are cool with that, then by all means, worry about civil suits. I'll worry about keeping my family alive.

I have been looking for an Entry model (SBS) and have not been able to find one so gave up I do not think you can go wrong with either of these Shotguns I only learned about the FN while researching and trying to find myself an M4

  right on Bob Dylan!   I guess what Natalie Maines did in England is not issue to me because I see little to no difference between making a editorial type comment on stage to the message in the music.  It is the same thing.      I grew up on Country Joe, CSN&Y, The Eagles, The Doors and many more.  A lot of their music was political.  What they said while on stage between songs was no wake up call.   There are several instances of political commentary on the Woodstock sound track which was far and away the music that influenced my musical likes and dislikes.

I'll also admit to being a faithful viewer.  Sadly the show is getting a bit ridiculous just like they did with the Shield.  While I love the show I hope they wrap it up this season or next before it gets too crazy.

Yes I do, actually. Moreover, I do not want nor expect Syria, Afghanistan, Egypt, Libya, Iraq, etc. to come here and try to straighten out our problems.   I don't expect many of them want us there either.

Before everybody gets too jumpy and throws "the baby out with the bathwater" so to speak; just take the time to remember that the minutemen, the british, the mountain men, the buffalo hunters, naval gunners, army cannoners, road builders, the quarrymen, and the miners everywhere (....and everybody else that shot or blasted anything...) handled black powder to do it with until well into the first 1/3 of the twentieth century.  Havin said that; I'm convinced that esd probably set this charge off; but ive got no way of knowing that for sure.     Ya need to use metal (...brass, non sparking....) tools to reload black powder with; along with a real good look at seeing to it that there is no potential source of electric charge near (...rugs, plastic tools handling powder, plastic loading blocks, cel phones, electric motors, ect, etc -- ya get the picture...) and that everything you use is non-sparking or grounded if the rounds (...or powder containers...) sit on it .    Blasting regulations with all kinds of powder (...black and otherwise...) have always cautioned about lightning and electrostatic discharge when handling and loading explosives (...black powder is an explosive... Smokeless powder is a flammable solid...).  Electrical sparks (...big or little...) can set this stuff off; as can a pretty good blow (...shock as with a hammer blow...) to the powder itself.  Dont be dragged off into the woods by some yahoo on youtube sayin that electric sparks wont set off black powder.  Rules for handling black powder and explosives are "written in blood".  That means that researching catastrophes and  confabulations (...after burying the dead and tending to the maimed...) caused these "rules" to be known and adopted.   Being careful is the watchword with all reloading; and is doubly true when handling black powder, dynamite, or anything else that can set ya on fire or blow ya up.    Remember, on balance, the most dangerous thing that ya handle with reloading is the primer.  It explodes from a relatively light physical blow.     Look carefully at everything ya do... .   There is a place right up the road from our location where a genuine loss of life tragedy happened from what was suspected to be an esd.  The place wuz the Pyro Shows fireworks fab facility.   These guys were (...and are...) world class pros that make their living by handling black powder by the ton.   Accidents happen from the most innocent of actions or from overlooking of hazards that are sitting in front of ya.    This is a double lesson.... . One in thankfulness that Dave wasn't hurt any more that he was; and the other in that things can happen very unexpectedly and that the source of the confabulation can be relatively minor; even undetectable.   Be watchful... .  Be careful.... .   leroy

I am with keeping the Israelis on our side, let the rest take care of each other, for we dont have a friend  in that fight.

Amen. I am not antiwar by ANY means but the US needs to stop being the world police. Israel is the only middle eastern country I would genuinely be afraid of if we were on their bad side.

We've spilled more than enough blood and spent too much treasure in the middle east with no end in sight.  Let 'em kill each other off; the Israelis will finish 'em if they get too rowdy.   leroy, radical isolationist libertarian

No. No. Yes.

Yup, that's the important thing - did you get the bee?  Did he have a nice rack on him?

I love how liberal Democrats justify a tax increase because there hasn't been one in years.  That is what his argument is here.  As if there exists the expectation that taxes should increase in percentage as time goes on.  People like this need to kick their oxygen habit for the good of the rest of us.

I think what you're being told is to stop working in the yard.

That sounds like a "for the children plea." Don't get me wrong, my mother worked for MADD for nearly a decade and my father worked over 30 years in law enforcement, most of those years being involved specifically in busting drunk drivers. To give you a better idea of the household I grew up in, I was named after a friend of my parents who was killed in a drunk driving accident barely out of high school. I get it. Drunks are a danger behind the wheel, and I don't think the legal system does enough to punish these people when they use their cars as premeditated murder weapons, but we have to draw a line. I have no problem being cooperative at a checkpoint. I have nothing to hide and surely just want to be on my way, but that isn't the point. Our forefathers did not envision a country where you would be stopped just trying to get from point A to point B, questioned and verified via papers to a government agent. I disagree with the practice and I think I have good reason to. Furthermore, from the mouth of my own father "DUI CPs are BS." He's worked hundreds of them I'm sure. I'll take his word for it.

Once a person puts on the uniform of a public servant, be it police, soldier, or what have you, that person must represent society. I was often reminded of that overseas when I wanted to act a certain way but instead held back to represent the flag on my shoulder with honor.    It is even more important with folks that can easily violate your person and ruin your life through what to them is a simple arrest. Not only that but the officer in the video jumped immediately to being hurt because a citizen (not a prisoner, not a suspect other than going through a DUI checkpoint) questioned his non-life threatening directions. Now that is not honorable behavior, nor is it acceptable from a public servant. Furthermore in the longer dashcam you can hear more of the conversation that seems to me at least to prove the point that he was trying to intimidate a citizen.    I am sorry, I want to go back to the days of my early adult life when I was not concerned about approaching an officer and asking for directions. Now officers to often are being reported in the news as using things like that to get a arrest, or for having a bad attitude that results in the same - looking for an arrest.    Folks who think the kid got what he deserved should think well what if you were in that situation. The kid did not raise his voice, curse the officer, or anything of the kind. He simply questioned what he had to do. Officers do not know the law, they know how to get through the law to articulate things like reasonable suspicion and probable cause so that they can do their jobs. Lawyers do not know all of the law - they know a small piece of what they work in criminal law. Otherwise we would not need lawyers that specialize in self defense or in tax code cases.    This is why we are supposed to screen and monitor police to make sure we hire ethical folks who want to serve the public and not bullies. Law enforcement officers really do not have the luxury of having a bad day and taking that to work with them. Caesar's wife must be above reproach. Dignity and respect. 

  Trust me, I didn't cherry pick.  I don't like a single line of that post, but I don't like getting into internet arguments that are subjective.  The idea that we might not deserve rights or have to earn them is a dangerous enough idea to cause me to respond.  The rest concerns me as well, and I hope you're not a LEO.

Cliff Notes on Thread: Kid went looking for trouble and found it. Some people agree with preceding observation. Some people disagree and invoke Ghandi, Rosa Parks, etc. Cops like Krystals just like anyone else. I'm now hungry for Krystals.   Did I miss anything?